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Quote from: ralle14 on January 19, 2023, 06:52:18 PM

The Vitality vs Astralis series felt like a choke from Astralis because whenever they take the lead and potentially pull away they somehow lose and momentum slowly shifts to the side of Vitality.

Vitality really made it by 2-0 in total. I can't say that it was a very comfortable victory for their side despite the score. Because both maps were quite competitive. Especially on Vertigo we watched a bigger competition but Astralis still couldn't resist them. They should have won on the map they picked at least. Spinx was generally the impressive player in this matchup. He got two 1vs2 clutches and 3 kills in OT on Vertigo.

Vitality are even in the final round of their group now by defeating Evil Geniuses as well. Let's see what team will be their opponent. Heroic - Astralis has started and we will see which side will be EG's opponent as well. If Heroic make it then this time I expect them to defeat EG.

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Quote from: arallmuus on January 20, 2023, 03:04:22 PM

Anyway, Im taking Tundra -1.5 against Secret

Congrats! That is a good bet. Tundra has beaten Team Secret so easily. Just 24 minutes in game 1 and 36 minutes in game 2. Team Secret is still winless in this tour. For sure they will be back to Division 2.

Quote from: dothebeats on January 20, 2023, 03:35:57 PM

On these teams, only NGX is the possible team that Team Secret can defeat, while in Tundra and ITB there is a high chance that they'll get their asses kicked. Pretty sure NGX and Team Secret will go back to Division 2 and get lower exposure in tournaments there, which is just apt considering their performances lately. Here I was hoping that whoever they replaced Nisha with in TS will perform well. In NGX, Ammar isn't really the problem, though his aggressiveness is somewhat costing Nigma a lot and they can't seem to match the kid's tempo when it comes to mid game strats.

I think Team Secret can win against ITB. ITB can be good in the in game, but they are shaky during the drafting. With Puppy in team Secret, they can easily draft against ITB. NGX is the only other team that is winless in this DPC WEU tour. It will be a coin toss with these two who will win in their match.

Quote from: ralle14 on January 20, 2023, 09:04:57 PM

The odds for the Sunday games seem interesting, Team Liquid @1.52 vs Gladiators is too good, and OG @1.45 vs Entity as well I might put these two in a parlay.

I watched team Liquid games, and they are perfectly executing their game. 1.52 against GG is already a good line. Maybe I will take this action too as soon as Stake opens a line for this match. These two matches will go the distance, so betting on over 2.5 games is also a good line.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on January 21, 2023, 08:53:16 AM

So it seems like the Southeast Asian region will be sending new teams for the Lima Major. I kind of like this after the region showed poor performance in the last TI which was supposed to be a home-court advantage. Talon, BOOM, and Fnatic, the former powerhouse teams in the region are likely unable to chase the early lead of the new teams.

Some of the new teams you mentioned have players that came from these powerhouses last season, so it's almost the same names really, just under different organizations. One of the names that is performing really well as of late is Blacklist International, which consists of almost all of the former TNC players. They really are living up to the hype, and hopefully they don't lose steam as the season progresses.

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I was busy lately on the World Championship of Mobile Legends. I wonder if anybody here playing and following that mobile game. I am starting to lessen my DOTA 2 games since I do have much extra time to play whereas in Mobile Legends a rank game ends usually in 12 to 18 minutes.

The thing with MLBB tournaments is that there aren't much bookies that offer such lines save for some local bookies that only deal with fiat. I also like to play MLBB more than Dota 2, but the complexity and the overall dynamics is better in Dota 2 more than in MLBB tbh.

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So it seems like the Southeast Asian region will be sending new teams for the Lima Major. I kind of like this after the region showed poor performance in the last TI which was supposed to be a home-court advantage. Talon, BOOM, and Fnatic, the former powerhouse teams in the region are likely unable to chase the early lead of the new teams.

I was busy lately on the World Championship of Mobile Legends. I wonder if anybody here playing and following that mobile game. I am starting to lessen my DOTA 2 games since I do have much extra time to play whereas in Mobile Legends a rank game ends usually in 12 to 18 minutes.

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Quote from: Mauser on January 21, 2023, 04:15:36 AM

The first match will be NaVi vs NiP, which should be a win for NaVi in my mind. On paper NaVi is the much stronger team even though they lost to NiP in the BLAST Premier Fall 2022. I think NaVi is motivated for 2023 and will show a strong performance after mixed results last year.

Both teams have different lineups compared to the last time they played each other eight weeks ago. NIP has -es3tag +headtr1ck, while NaVi has -sdy +npl. With these changes in mind, I think this match has the potential for an upset. Even though I would personally rooting for NaVi, the odds of 2.3 for NIP make it tempting to place a bet on them.

This will also be the first full BO3 match for npl with NaVi. I've been eagerly waiting for the continuation of the NaVi era since 2021, and I hope they can achieve that in 2023 with the addition of npl to their roster. It will be interesting to see how the game will turn out.

Quote from: Mauser on January 21, 2023, 04:15:36 AM

Evil Geniuses managed to beat Heroic in the first match which was very unexpected and also a close match between them, winning two maps 16-14. There is no chance for them to pull it of again against Vitality. Vitality is a strong team with ZywOo and should be taking that match easily.

I agree Vitality should have an easy win against EG in that game. Too bad the odd is so low, I'll skip that.

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Three more matches of the group stage of the Blast Premier Spring 2023 are being played today. Missed all the games yesterday as I was travelling, but want to place bets on all three matches today. The first match will be NaVi vs NiP, which should be a win for NaVi in my mind. On paper NaVi is the much stronger team even though they lost to NiP in the BLAST Premier Fall 2022. I think NaVi is motivated for 2023 and will show a strong performance after mixed results last year. Evil Geniuses managed to beat Heroic in the first match which was very unexpected and also a close match between them, winning two maps 16-14. There is no chance for them to pull it of again against Vitality. Vitality is a strong team with ZywOo and should be taking that match easily. The last game will be the lower bracket finals between Astralis and Heroic, a full danish match up. Heroic is the much stronger team and should win that match easily. The played each other in the Blast Premier Fall 2022 where Heroic won 2-0. Hopefully in none of the three matches today will be an unexpected winner.

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Quote from: dothebeats on January 20, 2023, 03:35:57 PM

On these teams, only NGX is the possible team that Team Secret can defeat, while in Tundra and ITB there is a high chance that they'll get their asses kicked.

I also agree that ITB has the edge against Team Secret when they're able to pressure other teams and grab at least a map but the bookies expect Team Secret to get their first series win after winning a game this week as they have Team Secret to win @1.55 odds.

Quote from: arallmuus on January 20, 2023, 03:04:22 PM

Anyway, Im taking Tundra -1.5 against Secret

Nice win on Tundra, I skipped them thinking they might troll again, and settled with a small parlay between OG -1.5 and Liquid -1.5 for 1.89 odds. Grin

The odds for the Sunday games seem interesting, Team Liquid @1.52 vs Gladiators is too good, and OG @1.45 vs Entity as well I might put these two in a parlay.

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Quote from: passwordnow on January 19, 2023, 09:41:55 PM

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They're about to lose two tournaments from having DPC, unlike the other teams that will qualify and do better in this current DPC season. There's the DPC for these qualifiers and then if a team qualifies, they'll also be able to compete in Lima and top placers will still have another DPC points. That's such a wasted opportunity for them.

Worse is, they will be relegated back to Division II since they are currently last in the rankings. They still have 3 matches left, if they win them all, maybe they can still retain their current division. Maybe they can defeat Nigma Galaxy and ITB but I am not confident they can defeat Tundra. Tundra is still very shaky this season but they are still reliable to win. They are still the same roster as last year. Secret will have a hard time winning against them.

That's the challenge that they need to face, winning all of those three games but will they dominate with all of that? I have doubts on that as they're lackluster for all the past games that they've got. Three games are with:

Tundra
ITB
NGX

A not stacked team named ITB is even at a higher ranking currently against Team Secret and Nigma. Well, Nigma looks going to be back at division II.

On these teams, only NGX is the possible team that Team Secret can defeat, while in Tundra and ITB there is a high chance that they'll get their asses kicked. Pretty sure NGX and Team Secret will go back to Division 2 and get lower exposure in tournaments there, which is just apt considering their performances lately. Here I was hoping that whoever they replaced Nisha with in TS will perform well. In NGX, Ammar isn't really the problem, though his aggressiveness is somewhat costing Nigma a lot and they can't seem to match the kid's tempo when it comes to mid game strats.

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Quote from: passwordnow on January 19, 2023, 09:41:55 PM

Well, Nigma looks going to be back at division II.

Yeah at this rate, they are going back to division 2. Im not even going to be betting on them because most of the time they are kinda weird. Sometimes I took the opposite team to win on 2 maps against them then Nigma ended winning a game so yeah Im not even going to touch anything with Nigma on it for now. Probably taking something on 27th on the game between Nigma and Secret, both are pretty bad right now

Anyway, Im taking Tundra -1.5 against Secret

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Quote from: CLS63 on January 19, 2023, 02:32:43 PM

Blast Premier Spring Groups have started. And it started with a really surprising result.

Evil Geniuses somehow found a way to get past Heroic by 2-1. I would have expected Heroic to finish the job on the second map which was Ancient already. Or winning on the decider would have also been okay for them - Overpass. Because they have more experience on both of these maps than Evil Geniuses. In addition to that Heroic's winning rates on these maps are high as well. They didn't have a good day. On Overpass autimatic and Brehze were very effective in carrying their team by the way - 26 and 28 kills respectively.

There is still a lower bracket of course. But their opponent will be much tougher than this - Vitality or Astralis.

It's good to be back in Tier 1 matches in CS:GO. EG was a 31st place team if I remember correctly. They managed to beat the top top 1 Heroic, no one expected this win the new EG doesn't look bad.
I watched the Overpass map during the Vitality - Astralis match. Even though K0nfig played 31-11 frags, I was very surprised that they lost, Device was the first time we watched him in a tier 1 match after years, he wasn't bad, it would be wrong to question the quality of his acting.

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Quote from: jakelyson on January 19, 2023, 09:21:13 PM

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They're about to lose two tournaments from having DPC, unlike the other teams that will qualify and do better in this current DPC season. There's the DPC for these qualifiers and then if a team qualifies, they'll also be able to compete in Lima and top placers will still have another DPC points. That's such a wasted opportunity for them.

Worse is, they will be relegated back to Division II since they are currently last in the rankings. They still have 3 matches left, if they win them all, maybe they can still retain their current division. Maybe they can defeat Nigma Galaxy and ITB but I am not confident they can defeat Tundra. Tundra is still very shaky this season but they are still reliable to win. They are still the same roster as last year. Secret will have a hard time winning against them.

That's the challenge that they need to face, winning all of those three games but will they dominate with all of that? I have doubts on that as they're lackluster for all the past games that they've got. Three games are with:

Tundra
ITB
NGX

A not stacked team named ITB is even at a higher ranking currently against Team Secret and Nigma. Well, Nigma looks going to be back at division II.

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Quote from: passwordnow on January 19, 2023, 06:26:55 PM

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Yeah, if they lose against Tundra tomorrow, the chances of being outside the eliminating teams will be lower. Too poor for Team Secret this DPC season and they have to come up with another strategy and plan for their comeback for the next DPC tournament or major and minor tournaments.

I won't be expecting Secret to pull through. They're literally in shambles, and it seems like even Puppey has already lost motivation to play for this season's DPC. It might be a wrong move to pick up Boom because the guy cannot do anything when faced against Tier 1 teams. Even though this is too early to call out things, the move is slowly costing Team Secret a lot.

They're about to lose two tournaments from having DPC, unlike the other teams that will qualify and do better in this current DPC season. There's the DPC for these qualifiers and then if a team qualifies, they'll also be able to compete in Lima and top placers will still have another DPC points. That's such a wasted opportunity for them.

Worse is, they will be relegated back to Division II since they are currently last in the rankings. They still have 3 matches left, if they win them all, maybe they can still retain their current division. Maybe they can defeat Nigma Galaxy and ITB but I am not confident they can defeat Tundra. Tundra is still very shaky this season but they are still reliable to win. They are still the same roster as last year. Secret will have a hard time winning against them.

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Quote from: CLS63 on January 19, 2023, 02:32:43 PM

Blast Premier Spring Groups have started. And it started with a really surprising result.

Evil Geniuses somehow found a way to get past Heroic by 2-1. I would have expected Heroic to finish the job on the second map which was Ancient already. Or winning on the decider would have also been okay for them - Overpass. Because they have more experience on both of these maps than Evil Geniuses. In addition to that Heroic's winning rates on these maps are high as well. They didn't have a good day. On Overpass autimatic and Brehze were very effective in carrying their team by the way - 26 and 28 kills respectively.

There is still a lower bracket of course. But their opponent will be much tougher than this - Vitality or Astralis.

I also didn't expect EG to complete that reverse sweep after they won the second map I thought that was it and assumed Heroic will turn things up in Overpass but surprisingly they still fell short at the end. I guess removing Cerq from their main squad and bringing in one of the best players from the academy squad was a step in the right direction for them.

The Vitality vs Astralis series felt like a choke from Astralis because whenever they take the lead and potentially pull away they somehow lose and momentum slowly shifts to the side of Vitality.

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Quote from: dothebeats on January 19, 2023, 06:26:15 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on January 19, 2023, 02:52:19 AM

Yeah, if they lose against Tundra tomorrow, the chances of being outside the eliminating teams will be lower. Too poor for Team Secret this DPC season and they have to come up with another strategy and plan for their comeback for the next DPC tournament or major and minor tournaments.

I won't be expecting Secret to pull through. They're literally in shambles, and it seems like even Puppey has already lost motivation to play for this season's DPC. It might be a wrong move to pick up Boom because the guy cannot do anything when faced against Tier 1 teams. Even though this is too early to call out things, the move is slowly costing Team Secret a lot.

They're about to lose two tournaments from having DPC, unlike the other teams that will qualify and do better in this current DPC season. There's the DPC for these qualifiers and then if a team qualifies, they'll also be able to compete in Lima and top placers will still have another DPC points. That's such a wasted opportunity for them.

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I've just noticed that Team Aster can relax now as they are guaranteed in the Lima major. How it did happened that they're already qualified for the Lima major?

They secured enough points and wins to be able to receive an invite to the Major. Considering that PSG.LGD isn't performing that great, and other Chinese powerhouse teams didn't post that much impressive results as well, Team Aster's invite remains a no-contest up to now. They haven't dropped a series yet I believe, so there's that too.

I see, I was thinking if there's another DPC tournament that has happened before but they're having a 5-0 run on this current DPC made them secure that.
Well, that's what being serious is and Chinese New Year is coming so basically, that's a good luck to them.

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Blast Premier Spring Groups have started. And it started with a really surprising result.

Evil Geniuses somehow found a way to get past Heroic by 2-1. I would have expected Heroic to finish the job on the second map which was Ancient already. Or winning on the decider would have also been okay for them - Overpass. Because they have more experience on both of these maps than Evil Geniuses. In addition to that Heroic's winning rates on these maps are high as well. They didn't have a good day. On Overpass autimatic and Brehze were very effective in carrying their team by the way - 26 and 28 kills respectively.

There is still a lower bracket of course. But their opponent will be much tougher than this - Vitality or Astralis.

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It seems that there's no hope for Team Secret, what a poor result coming from them with a new mid - Boom. And it seems that we're going to see the first team to be eliminated because there are only 3 matches left for them. You're doing a good job with these bets.

Most likely 2 series left since I doubt Team Secret would have a chance against Tundra tomorrow. They're still not guaranteed to get relegated though since ITB is still struggling to pull away from the bottom of the table and all it takes is one win for Team Secret and Team Nigma to force a tiebreaker.

Yeah, if they lose against Tundra tomorrow, the chances of being outside the eliminating teams will be lower. Too poor for Team Secret this DPC season and they have to come up with another strategy and plan for their comeback for the next DPC tournament or major and minor tournaments.

I won't be expecting Secret to pull through. They're literally in shambles, and it seems like even Puppey has already lost motivation to play for this season's DPC. It might be a wrong move to pick up Boom because the guy cannot do anything when faced against Tier 1 teams. Even though this is too early to call out things, the move is slowly costing Team Secret a lot.

Quote from: passwordnow on January 19, 2023, 02:52:19 AM

I've just noticed that Team Aster can relax now as they are guaranteed in the Lima major. How it did happened that they're already qualified for the Lima major?

They secured enough points and wins to be able to receive an invite to the Major. Considering that PSG.LGD isn't performing that great, and other Chinese powerhouse teams didn't post that much impressive results as well, Team Aster's invite remains a no-contest up to now. They haven't dropped a series yet I believe, so there's that too.

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Quote from: ralle14 on January 18, 2023, 08:46:09 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on January 18, 2023, 05:18:52 PM

It seems that there's no hope for Team Secret, what a poor result coming from them with a new mid - Boom. And it seems that we're going to see the first team to be eliminated because there are only 3 matches left for them. You're doing a good job with these bets.

Most likely 2 series left since I doubt Team Secret would have a chance against Tundra tomorrow. They're still not guaranteed to get relegated though since ITB is still struggling to pull away from the bottom of the table and all it takes is one win for Team Secret and Team Nigma to force a tiebreaker.

Yeah, if they lose against Tundra tomorrow, the chances of being outside the eliminating teams will be lower. Too poor for Team Secret this DPC season and they have to come up with another strategy and plan for their comeback for the next DPC tournament or major and minor tournaments.
I've just noticed that Team Aster can relax now as they are guaranteed in the Lima major. How it did happened that they're already qualified for the Lima major?

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Quote from: jakelyson on January 18, 2023, 01:46:44 AM

Taking some action on WEU games later.

Congrats on winning that three-legged parlay.

I also got a piece of Entity and I nearly thought they're going to get another reverse sweep loss when Team Secret bounced back in map 2 but luckily map 3 was so one-sided similar to map 1.

Quote from: passwordnow on January 18, 2023, 05:18:52 PM

It seems that there's no hope for Team Secret, what a poor result coming from them with a new mid - Boom. And it seems that we're going to see the first team to be eliminated because there are only 3 matches left for them. You're doing a good job with these bets.

Most likely 2 series left since I doubt Team Secret would have a chance against Tundra tomorrow. They're still not guaranteed to get relegated though since ITB is still struggling to pull away from the bottom of the table and all it takes is one win for Team Secret and Team Nigma to force a tiebreaker.

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Quote from: Jossque on January 18, 2023, 03:30:00 PM

maj3r, the igl of the team, may especially want the anubis map to be played well. This new anubis map looks like it will include very important scenes. Memorizing everything of this map and tactical games to be made will give +1 point to each team. Especially if Eternal Fire works in a way to establish a clear superiority on this map, it will be very good in their favor. I have to say that they played well against sprout today, especially Calyx made a clear difference on the mirage map, the last map, and paved the way for a comfortable win against sprout. I hope these performances will continue throughout the year and they will have good successes.

We can clearly see that Majer and Calyx preferences are now paving the way for Eternal Fire. Majer is unquestionably a good In game leader. Calyx has been one of the players who contributed the most to the team in the last two games. Looks good on Anubis map for now Eternal Fire team a new map we can be better than other teams, generally if we practice this map, I think we can dominate this map over other teams. EF players already feel confident on this map.

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Quote from: jakelyson on January 18, 2023, 01:46:44 AM

Taking some action on WEU games later.

Team Secret started poorly this DPC Season and I am not sure they are winning anytime soon. Team Liquid is continuing their streak from last season and seams to be stronger with Nisha on the roster.

It seems that there's no hope for Team Secret, what a poor result coming from them with a new mid - Boom. And it seems that we're going to see the first team to be eliminated because there are only 3 matches left for them. You're doing a good job with these bets.
Already 2-0 and then the current match happening, the last one Nigma and GG but GG already won the first match. And that seems that you're going to have all three later, hope so. Anyway, still congratulations!

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