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I thought that the power of friendship will lose against PuckChamp. If you guys know what I mean, I'm talking about Old G. Grin

It's a 2-1 for them but still moved to the last part of the closed qualifier for the upper bracket finals. I guess that they'll be against Betrayed and from that team I only know two players which are Symetrical and Shad.

While for some SEA Dota 2 action for this day, Blacklist lost against Army Geniuses. It seems that Blacklist players have gotten old and they need to revamp their roster or hire another one and replace their coach.

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Even the Astralis talent or juniors team is ranked 35 in the world, thats pretty dam high for 'new' players. Must be ones to watch, they are currently wrecking some poor team that might as well be called target practise seems like. They arent that young 18 19 youngest and opposing team has a 17 year old so actually more of a second team as is the meta nowadays.

CLG RED a womens team play an all male team in a couple hours, a controversial topic for some. I've bet womens league games before, some of them have been playing for as long as csgo has been around so history is there for anyone interested though the games are more risky to bet on I guess. I cant recommend it as a bet this time, looks unsurmountable for CLG but live bet who knows maybe.

Into the Breach can win on more maps then Sangal, consistency counts. Bet Breach and/or 3 maps if hesitant; both teams had similar rounds vs Honoris which is Taz's team so maybe it will be a closer game.

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Quote from: rafaloko on March 19, 2023, 05:41:43 PM

Forze really surprised me in this bracket.. tbh i was expecting them to lose to spirit some days ago. Now i believe they really can go to semis.. showed a solid CS.

Thoughts about the bracket?

I think grand final gonna be G2 vs Heroic Cheesy

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Forze in ESL Pro League played very effective games in the pro league tournament. And they eliminated strong teams. In the Overpass map, ENCE couldn't do anything, they only won three rounds, which was a bit embarrassing. They really worked very well on their own maps, there were almost no mistakes. Cloud9 is one of the teams I've seen close to the final. Maybe they can be matched with G2, I guess in the grand finale.

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Getting this silly bet for the NA DPC. Odds are lame yeah but I just cant seem on not to take this especially when I know that both of these teams are owning most of the NA DPC teams

Also love to take over 2.5maps on the next WEU game between Tundra vs Entity but for some reason Rollbit closed this market Roll Eyes

, sucks I shouldnt have keep all of my balance on 1 site

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Esl pro league matches have entered the playoff stage. The matches to be played tomorrow are;
NaVi-00Nation , Furia-Fnatic , Pain-Liquid and G2 - Movistar Riders.
The teams I expect to win will be NaVi, Furia, Liquid and G2. It's hard to predict if there will be a surprise, but logically I hope that the results will be like this. I'm also thinking of getting tips accordingly. I'll be sad if there is a surprise.

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I really think Div 1 is their main goal. It just looks like they're fooling around but in reality, they are not. You can see how coordinated their game is and how well they are playing the map. These guys are updated in the meta, especially Resolution who just got out of Secret. They might even take a shot on a major or 2 if not the TI. I would love to see them on a LAN just schooling the new teams with their game sense and knowledge. You see, Topson is still one of the best midlaners out there and he's not too 'old' for the game. A lot of players still respect him even though he's no longer playing competitively unlike 3 yrs before.

They'll be tested when the opponents are good and experienced and we'll see that soon. We've seen that Ceb and other players tried this thing before and I think that was like the same as this Old G? I can't remember the exact name but that was a failure on them.
And those opponents that they've been stomping on this closed qualifier, they're getting free lessons from this team and that's actually one of the best experiences that they've got to learn from it so, to those that they've won against aren't really losers.

Yeah you're right. Maybe the enemies that they're faced right now aren't really a threat to them at all. But it feels like Topson wants to take this serious together with Resolution. Topson tried for TI last year and even flew to SEA just to get that set-up. The man still has years of playing dota professionally ahead of him if he continues to play like that.

Last year it's also like this, and they were only playing for the fun of it, I believe, since there was chaos on who goes to which team before TI qualifiers started. Then after a few weeks Topson expressed interest in playing professionally and was picked-up by T1 to be a stand-in, joining old teammate ana. It was a disaster but I'm pretty sure Topson wanted more. OldG might be the training ground before he chooses to join a team that plays more seriously.

Topson is one of the best mid-players and when we say the best, really the best. Coming from a pub star and being discovered by n0tail to being a two-time TI champion with ana.
There's this craving from Reso and Topson and I think with Ceb as well that they want to take it to the next level and be serious with these qualifiers. They're now playing against Puckchamp and as of typing this, they're on their game 1. They may look having fun with most of their games but I'm sure that they are treating every team they're playing with in a serious mode.

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I definitely didn't expect such a result in the Forze-Ence match. Ence had a very bad match. They could have done better. It should be said that they already showed a terrible game on the overpass map chosen by Forze. The second map was the anubis map of their choice. Although Sunpayus did his best, they couldn't win the match. The successful awper who managed to get 34 kills could not win the match for his team. I guess I don't need to say that they played badly as a team again. This is a team game and if your team doesn't play well, you can't win no matter how well you play.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on March 19, 2023, 11:28:14 AM

Old G is dominating the Division 2 tournament which means only few waiting until they will move on the higher Division to compete against the big boys. I really miss Topson, Ceb & Notail playing together again just like the old times. I hope that they will a good run with this roster.

Notail is not playing anymore alongside with them. He is no focus on being caster of the game instead of playing pos 5. They seems doing fine on Division 2 but I won’t rate them on the same caliber of the team in Division because they commit a lot of mistake on their team fights and the only reason why they keep winning on Division 2 is because their enemy is scared to them.

You will notice that most of the Division 2 team usually leave their team mates or doesn’t bother to respo on separate clash because they are too inferior against OldGeezer roster. You will notice the real skill difference once this team match up against Liquid or Gaimin.

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Forze really surprised me in this bracket.. tbh i was expecting them to lose to spirit some days ago. Now i believe they really can go to semis.. showed a solid CS.

Thoughts about the bracket?

I think grand final gonna be G2 vs Heroic Cheesy

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Quote from: passwordnow on March 19, 2023, 05:08:33 PM

Quote from: dothebeats on March 19, 2023, 04:23:06 PM

I really think Div 1 is their main goal. It just looks like they're fooling around but in reality, they are not. You can see how coordinated their game is and how well they are playing the map. These guys are updated in the meta, especially Resolution who just got out of Secret. They might even take a shot on a major or 2 if not the TI. I would love to see them on a LAN just schooling the new teams with their game sense and knowledge. You see, Topson is still one of the best midlaners out there and he's not too 'old' for the game. A lot of players still respect him even though he's no longer playing competitively unlike 3 yrs before.

They'll be tested when the opponents are good and experienced and we'll see that soon. We've seen that Ceb and other players tried this thing before and I think that was like the same as this Old G? I can't remember the exact name but that was a failure on them.
And those opponents that they've been stomping on this closed qualifier, they're getting free lessons from this team and that's actually one of the best experiences that they've got to learn from it so, to those that they've won against aren't really losers.

Yeah you're right. Maybe the enemies that they're faced right now aren't really a threat to them at all. But it feels like Topson wants to take this serious together with Resolution. Topson tried for TI last year and even flew to SEA just to get that set-up. The man still has years of playing dota professionally ahead of him if he continues to play like that.

Last year it's also like this, and they were only playing for the fun of it, I believe, since there was chaos on who goes to which team before TI qualifiers started. Then after a few weeks Topson expressed interest in playing professionally and was picked-up by T1 to be a stand-in, joining old teammate ana. It was a disaster but I'm pretty sure Topson wanted more. OldG might be the training ground before he chooses to join a team that plays more seriously.

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Quote from: dothebeats on March 19, 2023, 04:23:06 PM

I really think Div 1 is their main goal. It just looks like they're fooling around but in reality, they are not. You can see how coordinated their game is and how well they are playing the map. These guys are updated in the meta, especially Resolution who just got out of Secret. They might even take a shot on a major or 2 if not the TI. I would love to see them on a LAN just schooling the new teams with their game sense and knowledge. You see, Topson is still one of the best midlaners out there and he's not too 'old' for the game. A lot of players still respect him even though he's no longer playing competitively unlike 3 yrs before.

They'll be tested when the opponents are good and experienced and we'll see that soon. We've seen that Ceb and other players tried this thing before and I think that was like the same as this Old G? I can't remember the exact name but that was a failure on them.
And those opponents that they've been stomping on this closed qualifier, they're getting free lessons from this team and that's actually one of the best experiences that they've got to learn from it so, to those that they've won against aren't really losers.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on March 19, 2023, 11:28:14 AM

Anyone watching OldG games on Division 2? It’s so entertaining watching all their matches because you can feel that they just having some fun on all of their games while they trust each other on the game. There play give same vibes the old OG that win 2 TI championship. Resolution and No[one] are very good on there respective role because they are playing synchronized to the 3 original player of old OG. I think they still can compete on Division 1 if they will just developed more their game play. I’m rooting for this team to beat the top tier teams on Division 1 unlike their new OG that is now crumbling because of their pos 1 cold performance and pos 5 that can’t find a way to contribute a big impact in the game.

Old G is dominating the Division 2 tournament which means only few waiting until they will move on the higher Division to compete against the big boys. I really miss Topson, Ceb & Notail playing together again just like the old times. I hope that they will a good run with this roster.

I really think Div 1 is their main goal. It just looks like they're fooling around but in reality, they are not. You can see how coordinated their game is and how well they are playing the map. These guys are updated in the meta, especially Resolution who just got out of Secret. They might even take a shot on a major or 2 if not the TI. I would love to see them on a LAN just schooling the new teams with their game sense and knowledge. You see, Topson is still one of the best midlaners out there and he's not too 'old' for the game. A lot of players still respect him even though he's no longer playing competitively unlike 3 yrs before.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on March 19, 2023, 11:28:14 AM

Anyone watching OldG games on Division 2? It’s so entertaining watching all their matches because you can feel that they just having some fun on all of their games while they trust each other on the game. There play give same vibes the old OG that win 2 TI championship. Resolution and No[one] are very good on there respective role because they are playing synchronized to the 3 original player of old OG. I think they still can compete on Division 1 if they will just developed more their game play. I’m rooting for this team to beat the top tier teams on Division 1 unlike their new OG that is now crumbling because of their pos 1 cold performance and pos 5 that can’t find a way to contribute a big impact in the game.

Old G is dominating the Division 2 tournament which means only few waiting until they will move on the higher Division to compete against the big boys. I really miss Topson, Ceb & Notail playing together again just like the old times. I hope that they will a good run with this roster.

I've got the same vibes watching. It's just so fun to watch them and I'm sure that behind those monitors, they're all having fun.

But I think these teams on the division 2 closed qualifiers are too far from the experience of Old G's roster. Well, they're not yet on division 2 and these games are qualifiers and if ever they end up 1st or 2nd then they'll be heading to the division 2.

And from there, the qualifiers will be tougher because Team Secret and Alliance are there together with other teams that are underrated.

If Old G's dominating streak continues, they're only 2 series away to be qualified.

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Quote from: ralle14 on March 18, 2023, 08:07:42 PM

I'm tailing even though they were dropping a bunch of maps last tour it's still a good bet.

Looks like it was a good bet afterall and I think they are going to be doing pretty good for the rest of the game. The odds providers are most likely going to drop their odds for -1.5 maps for the upcoming games for sure after they won 2 games consecutively but even if it drops to somewhere between 1.8-1.9 , I think its still a pretty decent odds to take

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In the Astralis-Spirit match, Astralis was the winner.blameF and device in astralis won the match with a good performance.patsi in Spirit was the worst player of the map. In general, device and blameF were the top fragger in every match. This reflects as a plus to the team.gla1ve's performance is declining. He needs to recover himself as soon as possible.
In the ongoing match, Forze beats Ence 1-0.The first map was the overpass chosen by the forze team.Here we are already talking about a team that has more experience than its opponent, that is, a team that has played more matches.The Ence team could not do much against this team and was defeated 16-3 on this map.Next, the anubis map chosen by Ence will be played. I expect the match to extend to the decider map.

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Quote from: Jossque on March 19, 2023, 09:17:32 AM

From my point of view, there were no surprises in yesterday's ESL pro league matches. The favorite sides won.
Today we opened the day with the Astralis-Spirit match.The first map was Nuke, which Astralis chose.Astralis didn't win the map of their choice. Spirit played better as a team.gla1ve and xyp9x played badly.The second map was mirage, the map chosen by spirit. This time spirit couldn't perform the way they wanted.Buzz gave a performance that I never expected from him.The match went to the last map, the decider map.This map is the ancient map.When I look at the stats, Astralis' winning percentage is quite good.I think they will win if they work hard.

Yeah, yesterday's results were as expected. Astralis beat the Team Sprit 2-1. The Ancient map was decisive. As you guessed, Astralis ended the match with this map. It wasn't a very comfortable map, but overall they were able to dominate. The device did pretty good awm defense, its comeback made me forget the lack of main awm. The role that can make the most difference in the game is the Awm role. It is not easy to find an actor like Device in this role. I think it will reach higher ranks in the Astralis Hltv ranking.

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Anyone watching OldG games on Division 2? It’s so entertaining watching all their matches because you can feel that they just having some fun on all of their games while they trust each other on the game. There play give same vibes the old OG that win 2 TI championship. Resolution and No[one] are very good on there respective role because they are playing synchronized to the 3 original player of old OG. I think they still can compete on Division 1 if they will just developed more their game play. I’m rooting for this team to beat the top tier teams on Division 1 unlike their new OG that is now crumbling because of their pos 1 cold performance and pos 5 that can’t find a way to contribute a big impact in the game.

Old G is dominating the Division 2 tournament which means only few waiting until they will move on the higher Division to compete against the big boys. I really miss Topson, Ceb & Notail playing together again just like the old times. I hope that they will a good run with this roster.

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From my point of view, there were no surprises in yesterday's ESL pro league matches. The favorite sides won.
Today we opened the day with the Astralis-Spirit match.The first map was Nuke, which Astralis chose.Astralis didn't win the map of their choice. Spirit played better as a team.gla1ve and xyp9x played badly.The second map was mirage, the map chosen by spirit. This time spirit couldn't perform the way they wanted.Buzz gave a performance that I never expected from him.The match went to the last map, the decider map.This map is the ancient map.When I look at the stats, Astralis' winning percentage is quite good.I think they will win if they work hard.

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Quote from: dothebeats on March 18, 2023, 06:59:32 PM

OG needs to have a lot more games in their new roster and I'm sure they can adjust. I'm just concerned about Yuragi not performing really well lately. He's one of the playmakers in the previous OG iteration even though he's the carry. Right now his heroes are meh, and whenever he tries to do something around the map, it just ends up failing. It would be best if they scratch that idea of a rotating carry and stick with a traditional carry that hits creeps and hogs the jungle until he gets some decent items before joining teamfights. That's one of their weakness right now and they are still playing it.

I guess Yuragi prefers to be more active throughout because taking towers in the early game and sticking as a whole team are some of the best strategies right now thanks to the meteor hammer meta. Then again I would still prefer that active playstyle but it depends on the heroes as there are good heroes (Spectre, Naga, etc) that can be active while sitting on the other side of the map farming creeps.

Quote from: arallmuus on March 18, 2023, 06:45:23 PM

Taking a shot on CN DPC, I normally would have avoided this because PSG.LGD is no longer the same team that we know but I watched their previous game I thought that they are good so Im taking this

I'm tailing even though they were dropping a bunch of maps last tour it's still a good bet.

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OG is not the same anymore since their carry topson and ana is not on the team and also the complexity of their team does not exist anymore I guess they need to check first their team whats the wrong with it, imagine Team liquid right now just one player can change all the things happen in the game I guess if this might continue Liquid will manage again to be part of the back to back ti champs unless they can kick the tundra and TS right now.

Totally agree. The current OG is playing by the book that makes them easy to read and counter. Their rotation is so predictable that makes it useless and waste of time. They don’t have good vision on most of their that makes them always play on defensive position. This is not the real OG mindset. I think the OldG on division 2 might replaced them in Division 1 in the future if they didn’t step up their game.

These are still very young players and there is definitely a lot of space for improvement. They are not totally bad since they won some tournaments last year with the same roster. So, they might just need a little bit of push or guidance from the management. OLD G is competitive right now but I do not know if that is enough to compete in Division 1.

OG needs to have a lot more games in their new roster and I'm sure they can adjust. I'm just concerned about Yuragi not performing really well lately. He's one of the playmakers in the previous OG iteration even though he's the carry. Right now his heroes are meh, and whenever he tries to do something around the map, it just ends up failing. It would be best if they scratch that idea of a rotating carry and stick with a traditional carry that hits creeps and hogs the jungle until he gets some decent items before joining teamfights. That's one of their weakness right now and they are still playing it.

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