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Quote from: CLS63 on March 15, 2023, 03:22:56 PM

Natus Vincere must really be trolling. I was really surprised to see them losing to FORZE there. They lost two maps in a row on Ancient and Inferno which brought their end by 2-1. s1mple had a really great day actually. Especially on Overpass he made a big impact with 32 kills. He was at top on the other maps as well but this wasn't still enough for the team to make it to the victory.

Astralis are a more challenging team to beat for Natus Vincere on paper. But we shouldn't forget another thing that Astralis lost to Spirit by 2-0 before coming to lower bracket. Besides it has been a long time since Astralis and Natus Vincere played against each other the last time. It feels like Natus Vincere will beat them by 2-1 in s1mple's lead.

I don't think NaVi is trolling. NaVi's substitutions were very wrong. Even though S1mple played well on all maps, it was not enough for the team to win. S1mple is limited in what he can do as well. After all, this is a team game, not an individual game. NaVi team needs a good igl player.this is not something that can happen with npl and electronic.the team already has high fire power but there is no one to manage the team.I don't know if S1mple igl's occasionally in the game, but even if he does, he is definitely not useful.

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Natus Vincere must really be trolling. I was really surprised to see them losing to FORZE there. They lost two maps in a row on Ancient and Inferno which brought their end by 2-1. s1mple had a really great day actually. Especially on Overpass he made a big impact with 32 kills. He was at top on the other maps as well but this wasn't still enough for the team to make it to the victory.

Astralis are a more challenging team to beat for Natus Vincere on paper. But we shouldn't forget another thing that Astralis lost to Spirit by 2-0 before coming to lower bracket. Besides it has been a long time since Astralis and Natus Vincere played against each other the last time. It feels like Natus Vincere will beat them by 2-1 in s1mple's lead.

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The first match of the day was Spirit-Astralis, Astralis doesn't have the same roster quality as before and we've seen that for a long time. In this match, we saw that the roster is still not fully settled and weak.Spirit was the better team and they were able to win. Wonderfull was among the leading players of the team in this match.
In the second match of the day, we watched the Forze-NaVi match. Forze defeated navi and I honestly did not expect such a win from forze.Natus Vincere team is struggling to achieve success despite having talented players like S1mple and b1t.Although S1mple played perfectly, they could not win the match.

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Quote from: execijutiere on March 14, 2023, 08:58:30 AM

Esl pro league matches will resume tomorrow. There is not much to enjoy between the first matches in group d. The toughest challenge seems to be spirit-Astralis. I expect Natus Vincere to get a comfortable win against forze. Simple and his team have been out of form lately, but they are a team that will be easier to recover. Now they need to show success in tournaments. They have a good roster and this shouldn't be a tough challenge for them.
Liquid-Rare atom will also be an easy match for liquid. Liquid is at a good level right now and their opponent is a team in form. But there is a difference between them. Their opponent is better in terms of map winning percentages, but there is no team that can achieve proper success in that region. Therefore, even if it is difficult, liquid will win the match.

Yeah, the opening matches in EPL group are usually quite boring and one-sided. But the Spirit vs. Astralis game might actually be close. Their performance against Liquid, a tier 1 team, on IEM Katowice was decent. So I think they could also give Astralis a close match here. I'll probably only going to bet on that game and skip the rest.

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Quote from: sunsilk on March 13, 2023, 06:01:51 PM

Team Secret is on the eyes of many as of now due to the roster changes that they've recently announced. Now, there's another known team which is the Nigma Galaxy and they're taking another addition not to the roster but to their team with a coach.

They've welcomed "March" as their new coach. After helping Execration to reach Lima major, he's now being taken care of Nigma Galaxy as their new coach.

While the former Nigma's coach, "ImmortalFaith" goes to Geek Slate as their new coach.

Koreans are not the best players but they certainly excel in the coaching position. They lend insights and strategies that not a lot of teams and coaches in the West can provide, possibly due to their roots in SC2 and other MOBA/RTS. The remnants of the MVP team are the only ones remaining in competitive Dota if I'm not mistaken, and others such as Febby still pursued playing Dota but only as a streamer.

Hoping that NGX finds success with the new coach in the roster, and hope that they have fixed whatever internal issues they may have leading to them placing badly on a lot of the more recent tournaments they're in.

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I also saw one of Old G's matches earlier but I didn't stay until the end since they're going to win no matter what anyway.

For my bet of the day i've gone with a multi that's barely above 2.01 as I think the Liquid vs OG series might go the distance. Gaimin Gladiators should take down Ooredoo Thunders with ease since Monaspa had no problems taking them down 2-0 during the first day. Entity vs Team Nigma might be a close series when there are rumors that ATF could be moving to the offlane position but I don't think that'll be enough when Entity looked great during the Lima major.

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Quote from: sunsilk on March 13, 2023, 06:01:51 PM

Team Secret is on the eyes of many as of now due to the roster changes that they've recently announced. Now, there's another known team which is the Nigma Galaxy and they're taking another addition not to the roster but to their team with a coach.

They've welcomed "March" as their new coach. After helping Execration to reach Lima major, he's now being taken care of Nigma Galaxy as their new coach.

While the former Nigma's coach, "ImmortalFaith" goes to Geek Slate as their new coach.

As expected, some teams will change in order to catch up. Team Secret just like last season is in a bumpy road and there are too many rivals in the region. March brought Execration into a major but they disappoint in the actual major. Maybe the lack of international experience of the team had mental effects. I am still doubtful on Nigma but we will see, maybe they will do good with March and the new patch.

That's what a coach really does, I remember when the time like SEA teams don't participate a lot in international teams but when a coach has came in their performances have improved a lot.

Quote from: inthelongrun on March 13, 2023, 06:29:16 PM

I don't know why Geek Slate brought a coach coming from a team that is underperforming lately.

It's not about the team that he has managed, it's about his experience. Check out IF's experiences and who he'd played with before. He's one of the founders of Vikin.gg which turned out into a great team and then now, they're the known Gaimin Gladiators.

By the way guys, who had fun watching Old G against Plasma? Ceb transitioned now into a pos 4. They're now qualified for the Closed qualifier for the division 2 in Western EU. The open qualifier was too easy for them and just fun games honestly.

At that time SEA isn't really playing for global competition that is why most playstyles they had are behind the meta or sometimes they're making their own meta. Even until now the meme still exist about SEA as a cancerous server, but it's not that they don't play like pros but because of their unusual builds.

I'm rooting for the Old G coz I want to see them on the group stage again hopefully they wont choke again like any other times they did during qualifiers. I remembered during an interview from the last year's TI when topson said it was different when he was playing with Ceb and BigDaddy compared to T1 coz he was comfortable having someone taking the command while on his new roster there was nobody who would step up to the plate. Regardless they have a good run last year, I wanna see topson back in action again with his unorthodox builds.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on March 13, 2023, 06:29:16 PM

Quote from: sunsilk on March 13, 2023, 06:01:51 PM

Team Secret is on the eyes of many as of now due to the roster changes that they've recently announced. Now, there's another known team which is the Nigma Galaxy and they're taking another addition not to the roster but to their team with a coach.

They've welcomed "March" as their new coach. After helping Execration to reach Lima major, he's now being taken care of Nigma Galaxy as their new coach.

While the former Nigma's coach, "ImmortalFaith" goes to Geek Slate as their new coach.

As expected, some teams will change in order to catch up. Team Secret just like last season is in a bumpy road and there are too many rivals in the region. March brought Execration into a major but they disappoint in the actual major. Maybe the lack of international experience of the team had mental effects. I am still doubtful on Nigma but we will see, maybe they will do good with March and the new patch.

That's what a coach really does, I remember when the time like SEA teams don't participate a lot in international teams but when a coach has came in their performances have improved a lot.

Quote from: inthelongrun on March 13, 2023, 06:29:16 PM

I don't know why Geek Slate brought a coach coming from a team that is underperforming lately.

It's not about the team that he has managed, it's about his experience. Check out IF's experiences and who he'd played with before. He's one of the founders of Vikin.gg which turned out into a great team and then now, they're the known Gaimin Gladiators.

By the way guys, who had fun watching Old G against Plasma? Ceb transitioned now into a pos 4. They're now qualified for the Closed qualifier for the division 2 in Western EU. The open qualifier was too easy for them and just fun games honestly.

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Esl pro league matches will resume tomorrow. There is not much to enjoy between the first matches in group d. The toughest challenge seems to be spirit-Astralis. I expect Natus Vincere to get a comfortable win against forze. Simple and his team have been out of form lately, but they are a team that will be easier to recover. Now they need to show success in tournaments. They have a good roster and this shouldn't be a tough challenge for them.
Liquid-Rare atom will also be an easy match for liquid. Liquid is at a good level right now and their opponent is a team in form. But there is a difference between them. Their opponent is better in terms of map winning percentages, but there is no team that can achieve proper success in that region. Therefore, even if it is difficult, liquid will win the match.

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Quote from: sunsilk on March 13, 2023, 06:01:51 PM

Team Secret is on the eyes of many as of now due to the roster changes that they've recently announced. Now, there's another known team which is the Nigma Galaxy and they're taking another addition not to the roster but to their team with a coach.

They've welcomed "March" as their new coach. After helping Execration to reach Lima major, he's now being taken care of Nigma Galaxy as their new coach.

While the former Nigma's coach, "ImmortalFaith" goes to Geek Slate as their new coach.

As expected, some teams will change in order to catch up. Team Secret just like last season is in a bumpy road and there are too many rivals in the region. March brought Execration into a major but they disappoint in the actual major. Maybe the lack of international experience of the team had mental effects. I am still doubtful on Nigma but we will see, maybe they will do good with March and the new patch. I don't know why Geek Slate brought a coach coming from a team that is underperforming lately.

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Quote from: Trofo on March 13, 2023, 03:16:34 PM

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Anyone interested to know if Team Liquid could have beaten Gaimin Gladiators in Lima Major should watch the current match between Team Liquid vs GG on DPC Spring Tour WEU. Boxi is now playing and both teams are complete and in good health.

Team Liquid is slightly favorite in this match according to stake.com with an odd @ 1.8. But we cannot really tell who will win between these two teams.

This is new patch so not the same game anymore. Looking at some games today I felt lost. Had a very nice grip on the meta after Lima major and now everything changed. Have to see how the meta will settle before betting big again.

Both are good teams and I am expecting them to try out some things so over 2.5 maps looked like good bet for me before it started. Now it is start of map 2 and looking at the draws I am thinking this will be clean 2:0 for GG.

Yeah, we will see new Meta in this patch. You are right, we must see first how the teams will perform in this Meta. Luckily for GG, they are still performing very well even with the new patch. They are on a winning streak right now and dispatch Team Liquid 2-0 in their match. I did not expect that. I was expecting them to give GG at least a hard time but GG won so easily on both maps.

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Team Secret is on the eyes of many as of now due to the roster changes that they've recently announced. Now, there's another known team which is the Nigma Galaxy and they're taking another addition not to the roster but to their team with a coach.

They've welcomed "March" as their new coach. After helping Execration to reach Lima major, he's now being taken care of Nigma Galaxy as their new coach.

While the former Nigma's coach, "ImmortalFaith" goes to Geek Slate as their new coach.

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Quote from: jakelyson on March 13, 2023, 02:30:15 PM

Anyone interested to know if Team Liquid could have beaten Gaimin Gladiators in Lima Major should watch the current match between Team Liquid vs GG on DPC Spring Tour WEU. Boxi is now playing and both teams are complete and in good health.

Team Liquid is slightly favorite in this match according to stake.com with an odd @ 1.8. But we cannot really tell who will win between these two teams.

Team Liquid still lost against Gaimin Gladiator for 2 games. Even they are with boxi, still lost the match and that answers the thought during the Lima major of what if boxi was there with them.

But still, I'd believe that it will be a different result even if boxi was there on Lima major. We don't know, who knows? Both of the games that recently happened were seems to be easy for GG.

Everyone now wouldn't doubt how strong they are. Because there have been many watchers that are still doubting them, just like Tundra before they've won the aegis, maybe they're up to it next.

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Quote from: Trofo on March 13, 2023, 03:16:34 PM

This is new patch so not the same game anymore.

I kinda forget to take this into account before choosing to bet. OG ended up losing 2 maps against Tundra, oh well I guess the classic over 2.5 maps is not working right now.

Quote from: Trofo on March 13, 2023, 03:16:34 PM

I am thinking this will be clean 2:0 for GG.

Right on the spot ! Its just crazy that Liquid couldnt get a single map against GG, yeah I know its a new patch but Liquid is more than capable of winning atleast a single map. I guess GG is the main favourites this season huh

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Quote from: jakelyson on March 13, 2023, 02:30:15 PM

Anyone interested to know if Team Liquid could have beaten Gaimin Gladiators in Lima Major should watch the current match between Team Liquid vs GG on DPC Spring Tour WEU. Boxi is now playing and both teams are complete and in good health.

Team Liquid is slightly favorite in this match according to stake.com with an odd @ 1.8. But we cannot really tell who will win between these two teams.

This is new patch so not the same game anymore. Looking at some games today I felt lost. Had a very nice grip on the meta after Lima major and now everything changed. Have to see how the meta will settle before betting big again.

Both are good teams and I am expecting them to try out some things so over 2.5 maps looked like good bet for me before it started. Now it is start of map 2 and looking at the draws I am thinking this will be clean 2:0 for GG.

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The Sangal team is in a bad form. I don't know why, but they were doing well and suddenly they started playing badly. Maybe it is because of the coach. Recently there was a coaching change and the former coach of the bne team "stikle" came. I think it's because of him, otherwise there will be another reason for such an obvious low form. They need to get themselves together as soon as possible. The performance of Turkish teams is not at the desired level.

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Anyone interested to know if Team Liquid could have beaten Gaimin Gladiators in Lima Major should watch the current match between Team Liquid vs GG on DPC Spring Tour WEU. Boxi is now playing and both teams are complete and in good health.

Team Liquid is slightly favorite in this match according to stake.com with an odd @ 1.8. But we cannot really tell who will win between these two teams.

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Quote from: dothebeats on March 12, 2023, 06:32:45 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on March 12, 2023, 05:31:16 PM

Yeah, the first map goes to NiP and the map goes to 00N. Map 3 is very tight, as of watching it right now the score is tied at 9-10 in favor of 00 Nation.
It's about to end soon and I guess that it's just an icebreaker for 00N as they've won the 2nd map. You're correct that I've got to love them. And this map 3 seems to be favoring them now, they're too careful.

They've done it. NiP has a lot of good players but someone pointed out that they seem to not have any system or any methods that they need to use in order to take some rounds off of 00nation. I mean, Coldzera is obviously past his prime, but he's actually earned a lot more style points and got an even greater ADR and rating against most of NiP. Aleksib really needs to step up as an IGL and do something about the stagnance of his players. REZ is the only saving grace of NiP on most of those rounds, and headtr1ck sometimes steps up but they just couldn't if they haven't got anything to play with - no plans, no strats, no nothing.

Congratulations to 00Nation, they just want straight wins after being lost in the first map. Grin

On Dota 2, I watched the game of Army Geniuses and Bleed Esports. The debut of iceiceice and DJ on BE didn't go well, the series went 2-1 and now, people are praising AG for being in division 1 and winning against other tier 1 teams too.
Whilst on the WEU region, Team Liquid is about to have a match against Gaimin Gladiators for this DPC tour 2 and they're complete, Boxi will play.

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Quote from: Kapokala on March 13, 2023, 11:17:06 AM

If NIP would face any EU team ranked around the same as 00nation, they would've won.
There is something that makes brazillian CS super hard play, literally something that can not be learned.
NIP, squad that playes accordingly to their plan, and stick to it, can't even face ANY team that plays unpredictable CS.
That was a fight of Coldzera (oldschool) and AleksiB.
And Coldzera outplayed him.
Sad to see Headtr1cker getting rekt. Mark my words, he will be top3 AWP player within next 2 years. But You can't carry on Your shoulders 4 other teammates, if You have to face a strong 5 of 00nation.

Headtr1ck is another very special Awm player from Navi Academy. In a few years, he will be among the best among Awm players. The old school difference was clearly felt in the final match. They have experience like Coldzera, a proven player with loads of achievements. On the Nuke map, the Brazilian team was pretty ruthless, not getting a chance to get too far in the NIP. As you said, if there was a European team in the same ranking, NIP would probably win this match. I really like the agro games of Brazilian teams, the more active teams, the more fun the tournaments will be.

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If NIP would face any EU team ranked around the same as 00nation, they would've won.
There is something that makes brazillian CS super hard play, literally something that can not be learned.
NIP, squad that playes accordingly to their plan, and stick to it, can't even face ANY team that plays unpredictable CS.
That was a fight of Coldzera (oldschool) and AleksiB.
And Coldzera outplayed him.
Sad to see Headtr1cker getting rekt. Mark my words, he will be top3 AWP player within next 2 years. But You can't carry on Your shoulders 4 other teammates, if You have to face a strong 5 of 00nation.

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