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Quote from: CLS63 on December 24, 2022, 02:39:33 PM

Heroic are currently at the top of world ranking by leaving Outsiders behind now. This is really interesting I think. Because I don't see any reason for them to get ahead of Outsiders now. Outsiders are still the last Major champions and Heroic didn't do anything extraordinary after that success. Even in the Blast Premier World Final, Heroic and Outsiders both were bad.

Heroic are even ahead by around 100 points. This is according to hltv ranking of course. However Heroic are in the first position in the ESL ranking as well. Liquid come right after them and we see Outsiders later. ESL take their own tournaments into consideration of course while determining the positions.

Outsiders won RIO Major in which Heroic comes in second. Heroic won Blast Premier Fall Finals. They placed first in those events. I think Heroic has the right to be named the top CS GO team this year. I think Heroic has been consistent this year. If they have won the Blast Premier World Finals, we should not be having this discussion. It could have cemented them becoming the top team. But, most of the top teams were eliminated early in the tournament. Maybe that is why Heroic stayed at the top of the rankings.

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I made a bet on this tomorrow. This is going to be the first game for Nigma with their new roster tomorrow so its kinda bold to be getting -1.5 on them but yeah I really want them to win this tomorrow. ATF is going to be debuting as a carry player tomorrow, imagine leaving Miracle aside for ATF to play with the team though

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As it happens every year when we are close to entering the new year, cs:go tournament matches are decreasing. When we look at it now, new tournaments will always start after the new year. Teams are interested in transfer work in this gap. It looks like fer will leave the Imperial team. Jota from mibr is being considered to replace him. Guardiam also left the sampi team. Maybe he will transfer to a more familiar team.

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Heroic are currently at the top of world ranking by leaving Outsiders behind now. This is really interesting I think. Because I don't see any reason for them to get ahead of Outsiders now. Outsiders are still the last Major champions and Heroic didn't do anything extraordinary after that success. Even in the Blast Premier World Final, Heroic and Outsiders both were bad.

Heroic are even ahead by around 100 points. This is according to hltv ranking of course. However Heroic are in the first position in the ESL ranking as well. Liquid come right after them and we see Outsiders later. ESL take their own tournaments into consideration of course while determining the positions.

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Quote from: arallmuus on December 23, 2022, 05:35:05 PM

Quote from: jakelyson on December 23, 2022, 04:20:32 PM

They said this is not a serious team, but I am willing to bet they still want to qualify for DIV 1.

They said this because they dont want people to have high expectation on them. They are bunch of talented players stacked together but that doesnt mean they are going to win so keeping it low from the fans' expectation.

Anyway, we wont have anything on Dota until 5th of January for the CN region and the other regions will start on 9-10th January. So its about two weeks to go until we get proper betting on Dota scene back

For damn sure they still want to be in the prime spot for tournaments, just that they don't want people to really think that they're trying and to not get people think that this is what former TI champions are still capable. For sure Monaspa may have played well on that game, but you can see that Old G is not even trying with the draft, even though you have Ceb, MSS, and N0tail on board. If it was a serious matter you'll see some crazy picks, but meh, Topson Sniper mid? Feels like they're just trying to enjoy on a pub Cheesy

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Quote from: jakelyson on December 23, 2022, 04:20:32 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on December 23, 2022, 03:44:11 PM

I wasn't expecting that as well and against Monaspa, Old G goes home and lost on having the chance of going to division 2.
But I guess there are still some other chances if they really want to proceed to division 2 and then division 1, they have to compete again to the open and closed qualifiers of the next DPC season.
I just feel bad that they've lost but it's okay, we're fans of them but it's also good to see that there are some other teams that have qualified and that only means, there are other strong teams in the region. Yeah, their region is the strongest even unknown names are strong teams.

They can still try on the next tour. They just have to polish their game because we have to admit, they are a bit rusty. They said this is not a serious team, but I am willing to bet they still want to qualify for DIV 1.

Yeah, it's just words that they've said it's not a serious team and they are just passing time. But the possibility is there that each of them thinks of what if they become qualified for division 1.
And the run is no longer fun because they're seriously hitting and beating every team that they're matching. Well, that's a different story for sure but let's see if they'll still stick together for the next tour.

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Quote from: jakelyson on December 23, 2022, 04:20:32 PM

They said this is not a serious team, but I am willing to bet they still want to qualify for DIV 1.

They said this because they dont want people to have high expectation on them. They are bunch of talented players stacked together but that doesnt mean they are going to win so keeping it low from the fans' expectation.

Anyway, we wont have anything on Dota until 5th of January for the CN region and the other regions will start on 9-10th January. So its about two weeks to go until we get proper betting on Dota scene back

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Quote from: Peanutswar on December 23, 2022, 11:27:13 AM

Quote from: jakelyson on December 22, 2022, 09:04:11 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on December 22, 2022, 07:35:55 AM

Oh my, Old G lost two consecutive games against Ooredoo Thunders. OT has got the first slot in division 2. While Old G still has the 2nd chance to get the slot but has to wait for the winner of the match, Monaspa and Team Blink.
They shouldn't be confident in whoever wins that match as OThunders have taken two games against the game. That was so close for them but good thing there's a lower bracket final for the qualification of division 2.

I did not expect that to happen. When I see Topson, Notail, and Ceb in the lineup I already assume they will dominate the closed qualifier, but they did not.

I am watching the Finals of the Lower Bracket now between OLG and Monaspa. Monaspa still has the upperhand in the first game, but OLG is slowly catching up. They are quite even. Let's see if Old G will be able to qualify in Division 2 though the lower bracket.

I expect too much from the OLD OG members and of course, they are a 2x TI winner champion but I guess seems close to be happen to them is that they will looks the same with Dendi era which is over already imagine they got conquered with their game with a not known team, and also no-one not really good in playing core unlike before and seems like they are just playi ng a pub-game with no thrill just draft what they want and topson keep making an experiment to his hero which is not too much synchronize.

We expected a lot because of the three two-time TI champions but we played to consider that these three did not play together competitively for a long time. Notail has been away from the pro scene for over a year. It just means that WEU is a tougher region and teams are good that a haphazardly formed team cannot just win even though they are former TI champions. They can try again next tour if they still want to get it a shot.

Quote from: passwordnow on December 23, 2022, 03:44:11 PM

I wasn't expecting that as well and against Monaspa, Old G goes home and lost on having the chance of going to division 2.
But I guess there are still some other chances if they really want to proceed to division 2 and then division 1, they have to compete again to the open and closed qualifiers of the next DPC season.
I just feel bad that they've lost but it's okay, we're fans of them but it's also good to see that there are some other teams that have qualified and that only means, there are other strong teams in the region. Yeah, their region is the strongest even unknown names are strong teams.

They can still try on the next tour. They just have to polish their game because we have to admit, they are a bit rusty. They said this is not a serious team, but I am willing to bet they still want to qualify for DIV 1.

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Quote from: jakelyson on December 22, 2022, 09:04:11 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on December 22, 2022, 07:35:55 AM

Oh my, Old G lost two consecutive games against Ooredoo Thunders. OT has got the first slot in division 2. While Old G still has the 2nd chance to get the slot but has to wait for the winner of the match, Monaspa and Team Blink.
They shouldn't be confident in whoever wins that match as OThunders have taken two games against the game. That was so close for them but good thing there's a lower bracket final for the qualification of division 2.

I did not expect that to happen. When I see Topson, Notail, and Ceb in the lineup I already assume they will dominate the closed qualifier, but they did not.

I am watching the Finals of the Lower Bracket now between OLG and Monaspa. Monaspa still has the upperhand in the first game, but OLG is slowly catching up. They are quite even. Let's see if Old G will be able to qualify in Division 2 though the lower bracket.

I wasn't expecting that as well and against Monaspa, Old G goes home and lost on having the chance of going to division 2.
But I guess there are still some other chances if they really want to proceed to division 2 and then division 1, they have to compete again to the open and closed qualifiers of the next DPC season.
I just feel bad that they've lost but it's okay, we're fans of them but it's also good to see that there are some other teams that have qualified and that only means, there are other strong teams in the region. Yeah, their region is the strongest even unknown names are strong teams.

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Quote from: Balmain on December 22, 2022, 03:18:40 PM

Quote from: CLS63 on December 22, 2022, 02:37:10 PM

Quote from: execijutiere on December 22, 2022, 06:58:33 AM

Time for a substitution at Nip.
Nip announced that es3tag has been moved to the bench. I didn't think he was enough as an awper, which I think the nip team was too late in this decision. That's why they transferred Device, but it didn't work out and he went back to astralis. Now they will be looking for a new awper. I don't know who will come to the roster but nawwk can be tried. He is a very talented player and he can fit in with nip.

They might need to go for a talented young AWPer instead of signing a player who is already a star.

The NIP team is currently taking care of Headtr1ck, who plays the role of Awp in the young talent Navi academy. In fact, the NIP team has made its decision and the bidders are only left to the Navi team's decision. The result of this transfer will be clear in a few days. Previously, the Navi coach was asked if Headtrick was ready instead of S1mple. According to b1ad3 headtr1ck is not ready to play in tier 1. I think he is a very good player, but NIP is very eager for this transfer.

https://www.hltv.org/news/35294/nip-set-sights-on-headtr1ck-report

I have read the news (on the link above) about a possible transfer of headtr1ck to NIP later on.

headtr1ck seems to be a skillful player as a member of Natus Vincere Junior team indeed. There was a short time period that he played as a stand-in for s1mple in the past. And his performance was quite positive for the team according to the match stats back then. His general effort has also been very impressive - 1.27 rating. I think this would be a great investment for NIP if Natus Vincere let him go there. I watched him playing beside m0nesy on a Twitch stream recently and I can say that his playing style is really nice.

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Quote from: jakelyson on December 22, 2022, 09:04:11 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on December 22, 2022, 07:35:55 AM

Oh my, Old G lost two consecutive games against Ooredoo Thunders. OT has got the first slot in division 2. While Old G still has the 2nd chance to get the slot but has to wait for the winner of the match, Monaspa and Team Blink.
They shouldn't be confident in whoever wins that match as OThunders have taken two games against the game. That was so close for them but good thing there's a lower bracket final for the qualification of division 2.

I did not expect that to happen. When I see Topson, Notail, and Ceb in the lineup I already assume they will dominate the closed qualifier, but they did not.

I am watching the Finals of the Lower Bracket now between OLG and Monaspa. Monaspa still has the upperhand in the first game, but OLG is slowly catching up. They are quite even. Let's see if Old G will be able to qualify in Division 2 though the lower bracket.

I expect too much from the OLD OG members and of course, they are a 2x TI winner champion but I guess seems close to be happen to them is that they will looks the same with Dendi era which is over already imagine they got conquered with their game with a not known team, and also no-one not really good in playing core unlike before and seems like they are just playi ng a pub-game with no thrill just draft what they want and topson keep making an experiment to his hero which is not too much synchronize.

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Quote from: jakelyson on December 22, 2022, 04:05:03 AM

Quote from: sunsilk on December 21, 2022, 11:48:42 PM

Since we're talking about bans here in Dota 2. Look, there's another banned player in the SEA and that's the Young Galacticos, they're disqualified already on closed qualifier. KSH, is banned for lifetime from Epulze but I guess Valve will also have to step in on this. He did scripting and that's really no good when you're in a competition.

Source: https://twitter.com/EPULZEgaming/status/1605775857045356544

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Yangon Galacticos have been disqualified from the DPC 2023 SEA Winter Tour CQ, KSH has been found guilty of scripting and receives a lifetime ban from Epulze, remaining teammates are banned until further notice, pending a more extensive investigation.

No more YG on the finals lower bracket, whoever wins with Drink Water and Lilgun will now be moving and proclaimed into Division 2.

So many bans early in the season. Valve is more serious this year in implementing bans on cheaters, which is good. We do not want cheating, especially in pro games. It destroys the league and our bets, if we are betting.

They've always been serious and they'll definitely going to punish all of those players that are not playing fair.

They're just for the fairness of each team because that's what Valve wants to happen. The generosity they've got for the minors and majors that they're producing, this should be taken into consideration by those players that might think to cheat.

It's a career that will change their lives so, they have to think of it before committing such acts considered as cheating.

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I have to say that there were some good matches in the Born to be brave tournament. In the first match there was a strange mix of teams against each team's awper. 5 awpers could not beat the other team. Because their rifles are weaker against the other team. In the other match, strong aims faced the igls of the teams. This time the igls won the match. In the final match, the mixed team defeated the igls and became the champion.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on December 21, 2022, 08:20:46 AM

Quote from: dothebeats on December 21, 2022, 07:48:43 AM

Quote from: jakelyson on December 20, 2022, 06:16:45 PM

Early in the DPC season, Valve had already set bans to 10 professional DOTA players due to account sharing. They will not be able to play to any tournament that involves Valve and PGL.

https://dotesports.com/dota-2/news/valve-permanently-bans-virtus-pro-player-and-others-from-dota-2-events-for-account-sharing

What a way to start the DPC season Cheesy

We haven't started the run for this year's DPC and we already have a lot of players banned. This should already set an example to players who are looking to sacrifice their career for qualifications or other shenanigans and advancements on the DPC. Not really a fan of Valve or PGL but these two organizers make up almost 100% of the tournaments in Dota 2, with the rest being handled by other smaller orgs/minor tournaments that offers very little prize money, so it is also in my best interest that Valve banned these guys for the future of Dota 2.

I am not a fan of Valve as well but I agree that cheaters should be banned right away. No excuses for them. It will send a stern warning to DOTA 2 professionals that one single cheating in the system can destroy their careers and denies their dreams of playing on the biggest stage.

I already forgot the exact new DPC system this season but a single replacement will cost a team higher points than the last season. Eastern Europe is a challenging region where Virtus.pro is trying to return back to its former glory days. Yet they will be sacrificing points this early.

Last Banning of the player I've seen is in the CSGO actually happens in the tournament which is one of the player have the word.exe it brings a lot of big news to the community with that and also in Dota 2 there's a log checking in the game and also the Valve itself has their VAC additional with that they offer a review for the players who would like to check if this is a possible cheating or not.

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Quote from: CLS63 on December 22, 2022, 02:37:10 PM

Quote from: execijutiere on December 22, 2022, 06:58:33 AM

Time for a substitution at Nip.
Nip announced that es3tag has been moved to the bench. I didn't think he was enough as an awper, which I think the nip team was too late in this decision. That's why they transferred Device, but it didn't work out and he went back to astralis. Now they will be looking for a new awper. I don't know who will come to the roster but nawwk can be tried. He is a very talented player and he can fit in with nip.

This is es3tag's statistics in 2022. He has been really ineffective for the team in general. This was because of showing a very inconsistent performance for a long time. There was an improvement in his performance in the recent times actually but it didn't last very long either.

If NIP want to be one of the top tier teams by staying in top 10 then they should take the needed steps for the good of the team. It is the right call to bench es3tag and I wonder with whom they will be filling his place. The most striking AWPers have a strong bond with their teams these days. They might need to go for a talented young AWPer instead of signing a player who is already a star.

Es3tag used to be a very decent rifler and entry fragger just a year ago, but it seems that he's getting a bit rusty and he needs some time to grind solo before he joins any team that can utilize him for what he can offer. I know that ever since he's been on NiP he became more confident and more daring in his plays, but that's not the only thing that pro teams need from him. He also needs to step up whenever possible and do things that an AWPer must do. He already got that thing going back in Astralis and 2021 NiP, he just needs to take a step back and focus.

Quote from: Balmain on December 22, 2022, 03:18:40 PM

The NIP team is currently taking care of Headtr1ck, who plays the role of Awp in the young talent Navi academy. In fact, the NIP team has made its decision and the bidders are only left to the Navi team's decision. The result of this transfer will be clear in a few days. Previously, the Navi coach was asked if Headtrick was ready instead of S1mple. According to b1ad3 headtr1ck is not ready to play in tier 1. I think he is a very good player, but NIP is very eager for this transfer.

Been reading a lot re: headtr1ck in hltv and reddit, and even watched some highlights and demos with him on it. I'd say he's got pretty good game sense and can definitely play in tier 1 with proper teammates that can help him hone his skills. I doubt Navi would be keen on transferring S1mple, their star, to other teams any time soon. And I doubt S1mple would even want to be transferred too.

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Quote from: CLS63 on December 22, 2022, 02:37:10 PM

Quote from: execijutiere on December 22, 2022, 06:58:33 AM

Time for a substitution at Nip.
Nip announced that es3tag has been moved to the bench. I didn't think he was enough as an awper, which I think the nip team was too late in this decision. That's why they transferred Device, but it didn't work out and he went back to astralis. Now they will be looking for a new awper. I don't know who will come to the roster but nawwk can be tried. He is a very talented player and he can fit in with nip.

They might need to go for a talented young AWPer instead of signing a player who is already a star.

The NIP team is currently taking care of Headtr1ck, who plays the role of Awp in the young talent Navi academy. In fact, the NIP team has made its decision and the bidders are only left to the Navi team's decision. The result of this transfer will be clear in a few days. Previously, the Navi coach was asked if Headtrick was ready instead of S1mple. According to b1ad3 headtr1ck is not ready to play in tier 1. I think he is a very good player, but NIP is very eager for this transfer.

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Quote from: execijutiere on December 22, 2022, 06:58:33 AM

Time for a substitution at Nip.
Nip announced that es3tag has been moved to the bench. I didn't think he was enough as an awper, which I think the nip team was too late in this decision. That's why they transferred Device, but it didn't work out and he went back to astralis. Now they will be looking for a new awper. I don't know who will come to the roster but nawwk can be tried. He is a very talented player and he can fit in with nip.

This is es3tag's statistics in 2022. He has been really ineffective for the team in general. This was because of showing a very inconsistent performance for a long time. There was an improvement in his performance in the recent times actually but it didn't last very long either.

If NIP want to be one of the top tier teams by staying in top 10 then they should take the needed steps for the good of the team. It is the right call to bench es3tag and I wonder with whom they will be filling his place. The most striking AWPers have a strong bond with their teams these days. They might need to go for a talented young AWPer instead of signing a player who is already a star.

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Quote from: passwordnow on December 22, 2022, 07:35:55 AM

Oh my, Old G lost two consecutive games against Ooredoo Thunders. OT has got the first slot in division 2. While Old G still has the 2nd chance to get the slot but has to wait for the winner of the match, Monaspa and Team Blink.
They shouldn't be confident in whoever wins that match as OThunders have taken two games against the game. That was so close for them but good thing there's a lower bracket final for the qualification of division 2.

I did not expect that to happen. When I see Topson, Notail, and Ceb in the lineup I already assume they will dominate the closed qualifier, but they did not.

I am watching the Finals of the Lower Bracket now between OLG and Monaspa. Monaspa still has the upperhand in the first game, but OLG is slowly catching up. They are quite even. Let's see if Old G will be able to qualify in Division 2 though the lower bracket.

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Quote from: jakelyson on December 22, 2022, 04:05:03 AM

DPC WEU Closed Qualifier Upper Bracket finals are about to start. The match is between OLG and Ooredoo Thunders. Old G odds is at 1.30 and Ooredoo is at 3.30. I think Old G has an upper hand but the odds are not enticing to bet on. I think the handicap -1.5 maps with odds of 2.0 is a better line to bet on.

Oh my, Old G lost two consecutive games against Ooredoo Thunders. OT has got the first slot in division 2. While Old G still has the 2nd chance to get the slot but has to wait for the winner of the match, Monaspa and Team Blink.
They shouldn't be confident in whoever wins that match as OThunders have taken two games against the game. That was so close for them but good thing there's a lower bracket final for the qualification of division 2.

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Time for a substitution at Nip.
Nip announced that es3tag has been moved to the bench. I didn't think he was enough as an awper, which I think the nip team was too late in this decision. That's why they transferred Device, but it didn't work out and he went back to astralis. Now they will be looking for a new awper. I don't know who will come to the roster but nawwk can be tried. He is a very talented player and he can fit in with nip.

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