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Quote from: jakelyson on October 06, 2022, 07:11:01 PM

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Quote from: inthelongrun on October 05, 2022, 10:15:41 AM

Group B though is a very tough group. Wildcard Gaming and Infamous are most likely the weakest teams that will drop into the lower bracket. I am very excited to see if T1 players are able to utilize this break and worked more on their chemistry and strategies. Their first game will be against Liquid right away and that's like a deciding factor already if they are indeed a serious team enough to compete at the world level.

The main highlight and the team that has the most fans is T1. It's now less than 2 days to go and we're going to see the first action of many teams all together.

We're all going to watch the first match of Team Secret against Tempest. Well, not a known opponent so mostly will bet on Team Secret if the odds are good.

T1 is in a top spot. They are grouped together with VP, Liquid, Xtreme, Infamous. They have liquid and Infamous on the first day. They have a good chance to win against infamous, but I am not so sure against liquid. If they can win on their first series against Liquid, they should look good for the last spot in the top bracket. But they have a back-to-back game in day 2 with VP and Wildcard. that would be tough.

I read that Ana and Topson are grinding hard in rank games since the regional qualifier. They have like 350+ games in rank. I hope they get rewarded for their effort.

350+ games? That's quite a lot. Maybe they don't have much time to talk and review their games with that massive number of games. They also need to bond with each other to boost their confidence and learn to trust each other.

People are gonna be hyped on T1 because of Ana and Topson. I really hope T1 performs well and get their ticket to TI. Anyways, I already had an advance bet on T1 against Liquid. They only need to win 1 map and I'm good. Grin

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Quote from: ralle14 on October 06, 2022, 04:22:34 PM

Quote from: arallmuus on October 06, 2022, 03:24:27 PM

On top of that Nip ended up winning against Cloud9

They choked hard at the end unfortunately, I remember they were up 14-10 on the last map then somehow NiP turned it around stringing several rounds in a row and close out the series.

I already closed the stream because I am sure that it is already a C9 win, it was just 2 rounds away. But when I checked the result, they lost. Vertigo was supposed to be their map. They were like 10-5 at the end of the first half. Talk about choking hard.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on October 05, 2022, 10:15:41 AM

We have here the groups and their game schedules. I have to say that Team Secret should be able to make it into the upper bracket.

I'm counting on them but don't be sure with that because it is possible that they will choke.

Nah, getting in the top 4 should be easy for them in the group stage. They may even end at the top of the group stage. But it will be different during the playoffs. They should be very careful since all matches are BO3 in the playoffs.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on October 05, 2022, 10:15:41 AM

Group B though is a very tough group. Wildcard Gaming and Infamous are most likely the weakest teams that will drop into the lower bracket. I am very excited to see if T1 players are able to utilize this break and worked more on their chemistry and strategies. Their first game will be against Liquid right away and that's like a deciding factor already if they are indeed a serious team enough to compete at the world level.

The main highlight and the team that has the most fans is T1. It's now less than 2 days to go and we're going to see the first action of many teams all together.

We're all going to watch the first match of Team Secret against Tempest. Well, not a known opponent so mostly will bet on Team Secret if the odds are good.

T1 is in a top spot. They are grouped together with VP, Liquid, Xtreme, Infamous. They have liquid and Infamous on the first day. They have a good chance to win against infamous, but I am not so sure against liquid. If they can win on their first series against Liquid, they should look good for the last spot in the top bracket. But they have a back-to-back game in day 2 with VP and Wildcard. that would be tough.

I read that Ana and Topson are grinding hard in rank games since the regional qualifier. They have like 350+ games in rank. I hope they get rewarded for their effort.

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There is some interesting news related to CS:GO.

After a seven-year break TSM have announced their return to the game in 2023. They have stated that they don't aim to buy one of the top tier teams. They want to make everything from scratch which is really brave. But their job might not be very easy on this road. They will still need to convince some big names to play for them if they want to be able to fight for titles again. Xyp9x, dupreeh and device were some names who played for TSM in 2015. Who knows maybe TSM might find a way to convince them again and have a start from one point.

The source: https://www.hltv.org/news/34691/tsm-announce-2023-csgo-return-to-focus-on-europe

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Quote from: inthelongrun on October 05, 2022, 10:15:41 AM

We have here the groups and their game schedules. I have to say that Team Secret should be able to make it into the upper bracket.

I'm counting on them but don't be sure with that because it is possible that they will choke.

Quote from: inthelongrun on October 05, 2022, 10:15:41 AM

Group B though is a very tough group. Wildcard Gaming and Infamous are most likely the weakest teams that will drop into the lower bracket. I am very excited to see if T1 players are able to utilize this break and worked more on their chemistry and strategies. Their first game will be against Liquid right away and that's like a deciding factor already if they are indeed a serious team enough to compete at the world level.

The main highlight and the team that has the most fans is T1. It's now less than 2 days to go and we're going to see the first action of many teams all together.

We're all going to watch the first match of Team Secret against Tempest. Well, not a known opponent so mostly will bet on Team Secret if the odds are good.

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Quote from: arallmuus on October 06, 2022, 03:24:27 PM

On top of that Nip ended up winning against Cloud9

They choked hard at the end unfortunately, I remember they were up 14-10 on the last map then somehow NiP turned it around stringing several rounds in a row and close out the series.

Quote from: Distraction on October 06, 2022, 03:37:37 PM

I think Eternal Fire can defeat them by a slight gap if they play better as a team. I'll give them a chance @2.27.

I also agree after watching Fnatic lose against B8 they definitely have a good chance and it's unbelievable that G2 is one loss away from elimination together with Astralis.

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Quote from: Distraction on October 06, 2022, 03:37:37 PM

Btw, paz's performance on Nuke was incredible (22 frags) as it was very effective in taking the win.

Eternal fire was the first win in the tournament, they won 2-1 against aurora. Paz contributed very well to this match on behalf of Eternal Fire. Yes, I knew that PAZ would gradually get used to the team and make extra contributions. It's definitely better than Calyx and Xfloud, it just needs to adapt to the team and things seem to be on track now. Paired with Fnatic tomorrow Eternal fire yes it's a tougher competitor than Aurora but I think Eternal Fire looks better now.

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The Turkish team Eternal Fire started to make up for their losses so far by defeating Aurora today. It could have ended by a 2-0 victory also actually but they handed over a good advantage to their opponent on Mirage. After overtime Aurora kept their hopes up on the last map. But Eternal Fire didn't mess up things on Nuke. I still don't like their team performance at all. If you check the individual stats carefully you can see e.g. XANTARES being one of the most performing players in the tournament now. But they are losing a lot as for team effort. imoRR should be replaced immediately. Btw, paz's performance on Nuke was incredible (22 frags) as it was very effective in taking the win. XANTARES was already amazing by 29 frags as always.

Tomorrow they have a matchup against fnatic as Cloud9 lost to NIP. If that match ended the opposite way then G2 were going to be their opponent. I think fnatic matchup is better than that but they should still be very careful in this one. fnatic were nearly defeating FaZe but they lost to B8 also which was shocking to see. I think Eternal Fire can defeat them by a slight gap if they play better as a team. I'll give them a chance @2.27.

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Quote from: ralle14 on October 05, 2022, 07:38:15 PM

Edit: Rip, game wasn't even close BNE winning one sidedly after that monstrous 13-2 half.

On top of that Nip ended up winning against Cloud9

Betting this for tomorrow though, trying to build up some balances from csgo before we switch back to dota as the Last Chance Qualifiers is coming right up. I personally think that Cloud9 to win 2 map against 1win at 1.6 is such a good bargain though, they need to win this one badly isnt it so probably not going to lose up the chance to win 2-0 here

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Quote from: Distraction on October 05, 2022, 03:50:13 PM

Spirit's losing to Sprout was a surprise for me too.

The same with Vitality, it looks like some of the teams were caught off guard with the format.

Also, it's nice to see EG bounce back as they're one win away from securing the legend spot after beating FURIA and it's their best chance at qualifying early since they could be facing Liquid, Complexity, or FURIA again if they lose here.

For the matches later today I have Astralis together with Cloud9 @2.28. The bookies underestimate Astralis with how the odds are this close and Cloud9 should win vs NiP now that it's best of three for the upper teams.

Edit: Rip, game wasn't even close BNE winning one sidedly after that monstrous 13-2 half.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on October 05, 2022, 10:15:41 AM

We have here the groups and their game schedules. I have to say that Team Secret should be able to make it into the upper bracket.

Group B though is a very tough group. Wildcard Gaming and Infamous are most likely the weakest teams that will drop into the lower bracket. I am very excited to see if T1 players are able to utilize this break and worked more on their chemistry and strategies. Their first game will be against Liquid right away and that's like a deciding factor already if they are indeed a serious team enough to compete at the world level.

T1 and Outsiders (VP) should happen. Even if one of them wouldn't qualify, they can still bring us some good betting opportunities and of course, good Dota. Team Secret is the favorites to win this last chance qualifiers and I understand where that sentiment is coming from. T1 proved to be not in their element as they have been formed a few weeks before the qualifiers and the chemistry is not yet there. Nouns also have a huge fighting chance against all other teams, but hopefully their carry pulls through though.

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Eternal Fire continue to make their supporters unhappy. They have started with 2 losses to RMR already. I might understand the Astralis one but the loss against Bad News Eagles wasn't understandable. Actually they could have won both of these matches if they were able to play stronger as a team. They are still trying to make a difference with individual performances but this can't help them at all. XANTARES can't carry the team like all the time. He seemed pretty thoughtful today after seeing a poor team performance again.

woxic mentioned some issues in the team without giving some details on his Twitter. There must be some kind of a psychological problem that prevents this team from playing well consistently. I hope that they can solve it as soon as possible. Otherwise it seems difficult for them to even qualify for Challengers Stage.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on October 05, 2022, 10:15:41 AM

We have here the groups and their game schedules. I have to say that Team Secret should be able to make it into the upper bracket.

Group B though is a very tough group. Wildcard Gaming and Infamous are most likely the weakest teams that will drop into the lower bracket. I am very excited to see if T1 players are able to utilize this break and worked more on their chemistry and strategies. Their first game will be against Liquid right away and that's like a deciding factor already if they are indeed a serious team enough to compete at the world level.

Is this the Last chance Qualifier for TI11?

T1 bracket is totally hard to break, considering on other teams which is powerhouse or tier1 as we know.Lets see if the new roster of T1 could really able
to withstand and able to compete out on securing their spot for the upcoming internationals.

I would say that this qualifier would be more interesting than with the main event. Cheesy

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on October 05, 2022, 04:36:11 AM

IEM Road to Rio RMR will have some top quality matches today! Starting with Faze - Fnatic and Cloud9 - G2 🔥🔥

then we'll have Vitality, Navi, Heroic and more, but i'm gonna with a combo with some lower tier teams, *EDIT remind me to never trust on tier -10 br teams like 00nation again lol

Good luck everyone!

Spirit's losing to Sprout was a surprise for me too. There is a significant gap between these two teams normally. Sprout are a team on the decline while Spirit are the opposite. But Sprout's amazing 10-3 CT performance on Mirage helped them get the win.

Congrats on your wins on Cloud9 - G2 bet. After a pretty challenging matchup Cloud9 took the win by 16-13. Ax1Le's extra performance with 26 kills was a big help in this win. G2 are having some difficulties after being eliminated by Vitality in the ESL Pro League but they'd pull themselves together soon I guess.

FaZe were pretty unreliable on the last days so I didn't want to bet on them. They were so close to losing this matchup actually as fnatic were doing a great job on Nuke even though it was one of FaZe's best maps. FaZe had a big difficulty in carrying the match to OT. There was a 19-17 FaZe win at the end. But fnatic's effort was worth watching as it was really promising at the same time. I liked mezii the most as he was one of the top fraggers in the match by 31 kills at the same time. nicoodoz's playing style with AWP is really delightful by the way as it's very brave.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on October 05, 2022, 10:15:41 AM

We have here the groups and their game schedules. I have to say that Team Secret should be able to make it into the upper bracket.

Group B though is a very tough group. Wildcard Gaming and Infamous are most likely the weakest teams that will drop into the lower bracket. I am very excited to see if T1 players are able to utilize this break and worked more on their chemistry and strategies. Their first game will be against Liquid right away and that's like a deciding factor already if they are indeed a serious team enough to compete at the world level.

Must say I agree with your analysis completely, Secret is much too strong to to not make upper bracket. Same goes for all other favorites and I sort of think they will maybe keep some of the best strategies for later stages. Real tournament will start in the knockout stages for them. Should be some good DOTA games for sure and hopefully some nice betting profits

Should also help us judge how the regions compare in this new meta before the main thing starts.

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We have here the groups and their game schedules. I have to say that Team Secret should be able to make it into the upper bracket.

Group B though is a very tough group. Wildcard Gaming and Infamous are most likely the weakest teams that will drop into the lower bracket. I am very excited to see if T1 players are able to utilize this break and worked more on their chemistry and strategies. Their first game will be against Liquid right away and that's like a deciding factor already if they are indeed a serious team enough to compete at the world level.

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IEM Road to Rio RMR will have some top quality matches today! Starting with Faze - Fnatic and Cloud9 - G2 🔥🔥

then we'll have Vitality, Navi, Heroic and more, but i'm gonna with a combo with some lower tier teams, *EDIT remind me to never trust on tier -10 br teams like 00nation again lol

Good luck everyone!

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Quote from: jakelyson on October 04, 2022, 10:20:23 AM

Are we sleeping on team Liquid and Polaris?

If I have to rank these two teams i'd put them somewhere around the middle or maybe a bit higher since I think there are other teams that are better than them but they're still good enough to beat half of the teams in this tournament.

Quote from: jakelyson on October 04, 2022, 10:20:23 AM

Polaris performed very well on SEA Regional Qualifiers, and they have a very solid lineup. I think they are a serious contender in Last Chance. I know SEA is not as competitive as China or WEU region, but still, they are showing some promise. They will give one hell of a fight on the group stage for sure.

For now, they look promising and the biggest question for them is if they could keep up with the playstyle of the other teams since we know how Talon's performance in the last major.

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Quote from: Eternad on October 04, 2022, 08:46:13 AM

Team Secret will never qualify on this year TI because there pos1 crystallis don’t upgrade to daedalus. Cheesy

I still believe on Team Secret that they can best the odds here. Chinese team is a choker on crucial tournament same with T1. Virtuos Pro is there greatest enemy on this tournament because VP is very hungry to get the TI spot after missing the spotlight for a long time. They have a good roster this year so my money will goes them since they are consistent to there matches compared to other teams on other region.

Team Secret can manage to be at the top of their bracket but Crystallis doesn't really look good as their pos 1. I guess it's better if they've made Reso as their pos 1 because that guy has proven himself that he's one of the best pos 1s ever.

On Team Secret's bracket, the hardest team that they'll ever face could be VG. But wait, I've seen on the roster that Yang is now their pos 5? That's nuts, I admire that guy as one of the best pos 3 player.

Quote from: jakelyson on October 04, 2022, 10:20:23 AM

Polaris performed very well on SEA Regional Qualifiers, and they have a very solid lineup. I think they are a serious contender in Last Chance. I know SEA is not as competitive as China or WEU region, but still, they are showing some promise. They will give one hell of a fight on the group stage for sure.

It's a solid team but underrated one. I'm not judging them but they're not just my pick although they really can shock most of the teams there.

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RMR tournament in CS:GO has finally started!

We have left day 1 behind. I can't say that we saw much of a surprise in general. However I was surprised about the FaZe - GamerLegion and Bad News Eagles - Eternal Fire matchups. FaZe were barely able to defeat their opponent after 4 OTs. This was very unexpected honestly. There is a huge quality difference between these teams but there is a very visible drop in FaZe's performance recently. That must be why they had this much difficulty in this one.

As for the other matchup, Eternal Fire should have been able to win this. Dust2 was like one of their best maps and their opponent was also not stronger than them. But at one point we saw Bad News Eagles leading the match by 11-1 which was a nightmare for Eternal Fire. They still figured out a way after starting to play on CT side. They made a great comeback and even got ahead by 13-12. But in the last rounds typically Eternal Fire started to mess up things and their opponent punished them for it by winning 16-14. XANTARES is trying his best but they are still having tactical issues as a team.

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Quote from: jakelyson on October 04, 2022, 10:20:23 AM

Are we sleeping on team Liquid and Polaris?

Polaris performed very well on SEA Regional Qualifiers, and they have a very solid lineup.

Its either going to be a team from EU region or China though. If we are going to count in a team from the Sea server then my bets will go to T1 obviously. I honestly pretty clueless about the other team from the Sea region Polaris but I dont think they have ever played against teams outside of the Sea and China region so there you have it

Leaning towards Liquid and Xtreme gaming / T1 to qualify though

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