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Quote from: ralle14 on June 15, 2024, 01:20:18 PM

The pre-live odds are the same for the Spirit vs. Vitality, with Spirit hovering around 1.70 while Vitality is at 2.10~. In the end, Team Spirit took out Vitality on Anubis. Vitality had a good 4-0 start in the T-side, then gave up four consecutive rounds to Team Spirit which shouldn't happened knowing Anubis is very T-sided.

I agree with Virtus.pro's value odds, but i'll take NaVi after seeing them show up during the groups.

Yes, Spirit made a really good comeback after losing the first map.

Congrats on your win mate by the way. It wasn't like a big deal for Natus Vincere to win by 2-0. Grin

They were really good on Anubis and Mirage both. Virtus.pro performed way worse than I expected. The team contribution in frags were really poor.

Today in less than an hour, we have the grand final: Spirit @1.48 v Natus Vincere @2.50. Both sides reached this stage without losing any match. I think 2.50 looks nice to bet on the underdog here. Both of them are in very good shape in the end.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on June 15, 2024, 10:34:51 AM

I have missed the odds of Spirit v Vitality series. It is 1.70 for Natus Vincere and 2.00 for Virtus.pro now. I think it is worth giving Virtus.pro a shot. As a reminder, they already beat Natus Vincere once in last Major (2-0).

The pre-live odds are the same for the Spirit vs. Vitality, with Spirit hovering around 1.70 while Vitality is at 2.10~. In the end, Team Spirit took out Vitality on Anubis. Vitality had a good 4-0 start in the T-side, then gave up four consecutive rounds to Team Spirit which shouldn't happened knowing Anubis is very T-sided.

I agree with Virtus.pro's value odds, but i'll take NaVi after seeing them show up during the groups.

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There is the BLAST Premier Spring Final recently on CS2.

Here is the current bracket:

G2 were eliminated in the group stage already after losing to Spirit and Vitality. However I wasn't expecting FaZe to say an early goodbye. Sad

Now in the semi finals there are 2 teams that previously secured their places in the World Final: Spirit and Natus Vincere. Because of that I would like to see Vitality or Virtus.pro winning the Spring Final to secure a place.

I have missed the odds of Spirit v Vitality series. It is 1.70 for Natus Vincere and 2.00 for Virtus.pro now. I think it is worth giving Virtus.pro a shot. As a reminder, they already beat Natus Vincere once in last Major (2-0).

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Quote from: ralle14 on June 14, 2024, 07:39:52 PM

Quote from: boyptc on June 14, 2024, 05:47:23 PM

South America TI Qualifiers has started. I've got three countable teams in here, Heroic, Leviatan and Boom Esports.

But sadly, Boom Esports is currently on the low bracket and this is going to be a tough way for them. While the two others are currently moved on to the next bracket at the top.

And they're going to face each other tomorrow so someone is going to the lower bracket too.

I'd also put beastcoast as one of the few teams to look out for since they performed well on the Riyadh Masters qualifier after beating Boom Esports twice.

Yeah, bc is also a good one although they've got a different roster this time and their former TI roster have been scattered already.

Quote from: ralle14 on June 14, 2024, 07:39:52 PM

Boom Esports will require a perfect run to qualify for TI, and so far the teams that qualified are from the upper bracket. They'll be the first one if they pull it off and it won't be easy as they could face Leviatan and beastcoast in the deeper rounds.

They have a tougher road than everyone else on this qualifiers. Anyway, I'm not expecting them to survive this tough competition there but I hope that they'll prove me wrong.

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Quote from: boyptc on June 14, 2024, 05:47:23 PM

South America TI Qualifiers has started. I've got three countable teams in here, Heroic, Leviatan and Boom Esports.

But sadly, Boom Esports is currently on the low bracket and this is going to be a tough way for them. While the two others are currently moved on to the next bracket at the top.

And they're going to face each other tomorrow so someone is going to the lower bracket too.

I'd also put beastcoast as one of the few teams to look out for since they performed well on the Riyadh Masters qualifier after beating Boom Esports twice.

Boom Esports will require a perfect run to qualify for TI, and so far the teams that qualified are from the upper bracket. They'll be the first one if they pull it off and it won't be easy as they could face Leviatan and beastcoast in the deeper rounds.

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South America TI Qualifiers has started. I've got three countable teams in here, Heroic, Leviatan and Boom Esports.

But sadly, Boom Esports is currently on the low bracket and this is going to be a tough way for them. While the two others are currently moved on to the next bracket at the top.

And they're going to face each other tomorrow so someone is going to the lower bracket too.

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Quote from: ralle14 on June 13, 2024, 09:16:31 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on June 13, 2024, 06:53:05 AM

and it's sad that the LGD won't be participating this year's TI when they've been participating it for more than a decade. Undecided

The org had some financial problems and it's why their squad hasn't been producing enough good results, but still, they qualified for the other tournaments.

That's true, I don't know how that happened when they're always part of the biggest prize pool tournaments and they always end up with some good placing. But I don't know how their operation expenses are and I have no idea how to operate an organization so basically, it's really a lot of concern for them to budget everything. I guess that from their situation right now, they can produce greater talents and have a development program for the future not just for their organization and team but also for their region as there's a need to produce a lot of new talents on this new era.

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Quote from: passwordnow on June 13, 2024, 06:53:05 AM

and it's sad that the LGD won't be participating this year's TI when they've been participating it for more than a decade. Undecided

The org had some financial problems and it's why their squad hasn't been producing enough good results, but still, they qualified for the other tournaments.

Earlier today, i've watched some of the CS2 matches from the Blast tournament, and it's nice to see Navi gaining form after seeing them always on and off in some of the recent tournaments they've been on. Also, their path to the finals seems the easiest as they'll be facing the winner of Astralis/Virtus.pro while Team Spirit has to face Vitality or Faze.

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The International's China region closed qualifier is now finally done. Yesterday, Team Zero won against Azure Ray so TZ have taken the first slot for TI's qualified team in their region.
Today, Azure Ray played against G2 x IG but before G2 x IG played against them, they have to beat Team Turtle first which is another team that's composed of experienced, notable and known players from China. So, this is a memorable day for the G2 x IG because they have to go through with two great teams before they've finally taken their ticket going to this year's TI. Way to go for them and with their match against Azure Ray, it was a reverse sweep that they did there. So, congratulations both for Team Zero and G2 x IG and it's sad that the LGD won't be participating this year's TI when they've been participating it for more than a decade. Undecided

A recap of what happened:

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Quote from: emrecemsan on June 04, 2024, 05:24:08 AM

By the way xQc must be an insane guy to bet $100k on 2-1 score for G2. Grin

He is streaming on Kick so I don't know if the money is sponsored by Stake. But the amount is just huge anyway for a bet like this.

That's probably sponsor money since he's still consistently streaming on Kick. The impressive part is that his correct score bet got him more winnings than G2. Tongue

While waiting for the TI closed qualifiers, i'll take a shot at one of the many bo1 matches at the YaLLa Compass tournament. Mongolz are on their way to top the group and Heroic is potentially going 0-3 based on their struggling form.

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Quote from: ralle14 on June 03, 2024, 12:00:45 AM

G2 made it happen and beat Vitality 2-1. I'm glad I didn't make a bet on this match because I would've gone with Vitality assuming they're back on form after taking down Team Spirit.

I also didn't make any bet on this one. But I wish I did because I was thinking of taking a chance with G2 win here. Sad

With this win G2 have secured a place in IEM Cologne. Now the decided teams are MOUZ, FaZe, G2 and Spirit. 4 more teams to come by ESL ranking. I guess this means Vitality, Natus Vincere, Virtus.pro and Astralis are going to fill those places. Apart from these, 8 more teams are going to join by play-in.

By the way xQc must be an insane guy to bet $100k on 2-1 score for G2. Grin

He is streaming on Kick so I don't know if the money is sponsored by Stake. But the amount is just huge anyway for a bet like this.

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Quote from: Balmain on June 03, 2024, 04:41:59 PM

LOL.. Who knew that the G2 team, which came to the tournament with a substitute player, would win the cup, and I would probably choose Vitality. The absence of HooXi gave G2 the cup, I think it shouldn't happen anymore. Stewie has done well even though he hasn't played in the pro arena for many years. Stewie, maybe the team can become permanent and they can make a new contract after this tournament.

Yup, it's so random and the last time I can recall we saw a CS team this successful with a stand-in was when s1mple played for Team Liquid. I still have doubts about Stewie potentially being picked up by a team because he didn't stand out as much when you look at his stats.

Quote from: arallmuus on June 03, 2024, 01:22:34 PM

China on the other hand has 3 slots on Riyadh master which is pretty weird

They probably based those extra slots on the EPT leaderboard as G2.IG and Azure Ray are the next two teams that could've received an invite.

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Quote from: arallmuus on June 03, 2024, 01:22:34 PM

Quote from: ralle14 on June 03, 2024, 12:00:45 AM

G2 made it happen and beat Vitality 2-1. I'm glad I didn't make a bet on this match because I would've gone with Vitality assuming they're back on form after taking down Team Spirit.

I would have done so as well lol. If I wasnt that occupied with UCL then I would have, kinda forgotten about this after the UCL game lol as I was probably abit washed up after the game

Anyway, the Riyadh Master regional qualifiers are kinda fun to watch. Currently watching Nigma but yeah I dont really have any expectation with them anymore but you know its my soft spot so Im still hoping that they would win

Virtus Pro actually qualified easily by winning every single map in EEU qualifiers. China on the other hand has 3 slots on Riyadh master which is pretty weird

LOL.. Who knew that the G2 team, which came to the tournament with a substitute player, would win the cup, and I would probably choose Vitality. The absence of HooXi gave G2 the cup, I think it shouldn't happen anymore. Stewie has done well even though he hasn't played in the pro arena for many years. Stewie, maybe the team can become permanent and they can make a new contract after this tournament.

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Quote from: ralle14 on June 03, 2024, 12:00:45 AM

G2 made it happen and beat Vitality 2-1. I'm glad I didn't make a bet on this match because I would've gone with Vitality assuming they're back on form after taking down Team Spirit.

I would have done so as well lol. If I wasnt that occupied with UCL then I would have, kinda forgotten about this after the UCL game lol as I was probably abit washed up after the game

Anyway, the Riyadh Master regional qualifiers are kinda fun to watch. Currently watching Nigma but yeah I dont really have any expectation with them anymore but you know its my soft spot so Im still hoping that they would win

Virtus Pro actually qualified easily by winning every single map in EEU qualifiers. China on the other hand has 3 slots on Riyadh master which is pretty weird

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Quote from: ralle14 on June 03, 2024, 12:00:45 AM

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Currently, I am watching the grand finals for this qualifier in North America. The match is up with Shopify Rebellion against nouns.
The score is 1-0 in favor of SR but this is different since there will only be one team to qualify there so it's a best-of-5 series.

Nouns finally came out on top with the reverse sweep and denied SR their slot for the Riyadh Masters, it's been a while since we saw SR get dethroned.

I have watched the few series of this match and went away, I thought that this is going to be Shopify Rebellion but nouns was able to do it, thanks to Yuma's meepo in the 4th map. That was the decider match and able to make the game up to 5th map. If this was a best of 3 series, SR would have taken the slot. Going back with the 4th map, there's silencer, es and axe and they're not able to stop yuma's meepo. Props to him.

Now, going on with CS2. Congratulations to G2 esports for winning IEM Dallas 2024. They also now have got the direct qualification to IEM Cologne 2024. Well done for the entire team and also Stewie2k as stand-in for them. Monesy is the MVP.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on June 02, 2024, 07:07:04 AM

Vitality @1.38 v G2 @2.80 in the grand final today. I think G2 have a chance here and can make the bettors playing on the underdog really happy.

G2 made it happen and beat Vitality 2-1. I'm glad I didn't make a bet on this match because I would've gone with Vitality assuming they're back on form after taking down Team Spirit.

Quote from: passwordnow on June 02, 2024, 05:23:57 PM

Currently, I am watching the grand finals for this qualifier in North America. The match is up with Shopify Rebellion against nouns.
The score is 1-0 in favor of SR but this is different since there will only be one team to qualify there so it's a best-of-5 series.

Nouns finally came out on top with the reverse sweep and denied SR their slot for the Riyadh Masters, it's been a while since we saw SR get dethroned.

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Congratulations to Blacklist International for qualifying to the Riyadh Masters. They're the 2nd team to qualify in the sea region.
It is satisfying to see Abed go into the international scene again with this tournament.

Currently, I am watching the grand finals for this qualifier in North America. The match is up with Shopify Rebellion against nouns.
The score is 1-0 in favor of SR but this is different since there will only be one team to qualify there so it's a best-of-5 series.

While in China, three teams to qualify and the first one get that slot is G2xIG.

Later on, is the start of TI2024 open qualifiers for the SEA region.

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Quote from: ralle14 on June 01, 2024, 08:30:08 AM

Those are my bets for later today, and i'd feel like 9z is more likely to pull off an upset if there is one in the semis.

I'm sorry about your loss. Sad

Both of us expected an upset by Spirit but they were beaten 2-0 by Vitality (13-6 on Dust2, 13-11 on Mirage).

ZywOo was really impressive though by 22 frags on each map. mezii had his best performance ever since he joined Vitality here I guess. 27 frags on Mirage.

I think he is a good signing from fnatic.

G2 didn't surprise me by winning the series. But rather than 2-0 I expected a 2-1 win. 9z showed a good character against Vitality but we couldn't see it in this one.

Vitality @1.38 v G2 @2.80 in the grand final today. I think G2 have a chance here and can make the bettors playing on the underdog really happy.

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Quote from: ralle14 on June 01, 2024, 08:30:08 AM

Quote from: arallmuus on May 31, 2024, 05:43:50 PM

Dang, too bad though. I probably wouldnt take live bet on cs2 ever again. I mean the game progress really fast and by the time the bet got accepted by bookies, score could have change by 1-2 points already so sometimes its kinda makes me feel anxious lol. I'd rather take pre bets on cs2 though

Same, the live odds sometimes overreact after the buy rounds and once the round is over it'd take a few moments before the odds stabilize.

Quote from: emrecemsan on June 01, 2024, 07:41:56 AM

Who are your favourites?

I'm going with G2 and Spirit. I feel like Spirit have a good potential to even become champions from now on. Vitality look more unbalanced after losing to 9z.

Those are my bets for later today, and i'd feel like 9z is more likely to pull off an upset if there is one in the semis.

Team Sprit is the most talked about team lately, with a player with firepower like Donk. They won 2-0, they did not have much difficulty, Vitality's comfort was obvious in both maps. Donk did not perform as expected. On the Vitality side, Zywoo was good as always and it was very easy because his other teammates also contributed. Sprit is a really good team, they came this far by beating Faze and Navi, but Vitality beat them very easily.

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Quote from: arallmuus on May 30, 2024, 02:03:18 PM

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I think that Esports World Cup did distributed it on other esports. While we're expecting like $10M-$15M of share for this Riyadh masters, that's fine. $5M is still big and the other esports are only getting $1M for which, it's already a good share for this tournament.

Oh yeah I just noticed this, There are tons of game out there that is labeled with Esport World Cup on Liquipedia. I dont even know like atleast half of those games lol.

There are too many of it and I think the other esports that aren't crowded yet, if someone out there is planning to be a pro. You can spend months playing and mastering the game and you'll definitely be able to reach the pro scene. But it's not for everybody if you don't really have the talent and mechanical and logical skills.

Quote from: arallmuus on May 31, 2024, 05:43:50 PM

Rough count of the prizepool shows that atleast $20M in total for the prizepool spread across the game so yeah but honestly I dont know why the only left cs2 with $1M prizepool though considering that cs2 is probably top3 among all those games

I agree, they should have added more on it instead of just allotting $1M on it. But what can we ask for? ESW is doing a great job in honoring esports and helping to make this event happen for each esports that we love and have been playing all of this time.

Going back to the discussion of Dota 2 at SEA region, Aurora is the first team to qualify on the Riyadh Masters. While later on, three teams left but the first series will be up against Blacklist and TNC while Talon Esports is waiting whoever is the winner of that series. And then, whoever wins against Talon or the TBA team will qualify for the slot. While on the EEU, Virtus Pro is waiting for the grand finals. The teams that they're waiting to be match up against with are Na'vi and Yellow submarine, so good luck also on that region whoever gets their one very slot.
On NA, the qualifiers are also happening, it is going to be quick, tomorrow we shall see who qualifies.

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