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Quote from: arallmuus on September 17, 2023, 01:09:05 PM

Quote from: sunsilk on September 16, 2023, 05:30:25 PM

Quote from: arallmuus on September 16, 2023, 02:52:37 PM

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That had saved you time but it's not a 3-0 but a 3-1 ending. Still, we've got some idea on how the finals will go. I guess that GG is now full buffed and there's one more tournament that they need to play with before the TI.

I still personally think that its going to be GG to win the whole tournament again. Well they might flop abit on the group stage but eventually I think they are still going to be atleast top 2.

I normally would skip most of the BO2 group stage because things always goes south on this type of match but the main highlight would be Tundra though. Topson is playing and Nine is on 4th position which means that things would be way different then they normally is so Im betting on Tundra to win against Talon tomorrow, odds are pretty high obviously because this screams draw for sure

I always skip BO2s, for the same reason you have re: draws. But with the composition and team setup Tundra is going to go with, I guess this bet of yours have a pretty good chance of hitting. Nine is not really a good position 4, although between him and Topson, I'd pick him to fill the role and Topson going for mid/core. Topson is just horrible in support roles, even though he's a very flexible core player as we have seen over the years.

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Quote from: dbshck on September 17, 2023, 04:30:26 AM

Quote from: dbshck on September 16, 2023, 02:24:48 AM

3/3 on this, lucky day Cheesy

Betting on Apeks -1.5 against 9z, I think Apeks is just on a higher tier performance-wise than 9z at the moment. I just hope that they won't be too tired to fight against 5yclone later in the day. This can be dangerous as we saw last week, MIBR basically had their energy drained after fighting 6 overtimes across 3 maps against EG. They had no energy left against Monte.

Faze vs Navi will be the match of the day. I'm betting on Navi ofc.

You were very good at your last ESL Pro League predictions, especially now you know which maps Fnatic will be superior to other teams. I was also pretty sure about Navi, I could have bet without any losses if I had remembered. I will be following your winning streak in the next tournaments. Good luck. In the Anubis map, I think it was too late before Faze realized what was happening. They did not manage to win on the map where they were best, but the grand final ended with a 2-0 Navi advantage.

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Quote from: sunsilk on September 16, 2023, 05:30:25 PM

Quote from: arallmuus on September 16, 2023, 02:52:37 PM

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That had saved you time but it's not a 3-0 but a 3-1 ending. Still, we've got some idea on how the finals will go. I guess that GG is now full buffed and there's one more tournament that they need to play with before the TI.

I still personally think that its going to be GG to win the whole tournament again. Well they might flop abit on the group stage but eventually I think they are still going to be atleast top 2.

I normally would skip most of the BO2 group stage because things always goes south on this type of match but the main highlight would be Tundra though. Topson is playing and Nine is on 4th position which means that things would be way different then they normally is so Im betting on Tundra to win against Talon tomorrow, odds are pretty high obviously because this screams draw for sure

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Quote from: dbshck on September 16, 2023, 02:24:48 AM

3/3 on this, lucky day Cheesy

Betting on Apeks -1.5 against 9z, I think Apeks is just on a higher tier performance-wise than 9z at the moment. I just hope that they won't be too tired to fight against 5yclone later in the day. This can be dangerous as we saw last week, MIBR basically had their energy drained after fighting 6 overtimes across 3 maps against EG. They had no energy left against Monte.

Faze vs Navi will be the match of the day. I'm betting on Navi ofc.

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The group C matches of ESL Pro League 18 are being played today and on Wednesday Group D is going to start. The first match is going to be 9z vs Apeks, I am not so familiar with the two teams but Apeks seems to be the clear favourite. It will only be a small bet on Apeks from me. The second match today is Faze, they did a great job of reaching the upper bracket finals and will meet NaVi. It's going to be a close match, but I think FaZe has some advantage here and is going to win eventhough the two teams played against each other in Cologne this year and NaVi won 2-0. And the last match of they day will be the Chinese team 5yclone vs the the Apeks/9z winner. Here I would also expect Apeks to win, they are a mutch stronger team. As for Group D we have the match G2 vs Lynn which is probably one of the most one sided matches of the season, there is no way for G2 to lose it. Then there will be Virtus.pro playing against Team Liquid, which they should Virtus.pro win easily. Same for Cloud9 vs Eternal Fire, the russian team with Hobbit should be winning the match easily.

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Quote from: arallmuus on September 16, 2023, 02:52:37 PM

Quote from: sunsilk on September 16, 2023, 09:34:26 AM

Looks like we're about to see the ending of the BetBoom Dacha. The finals is with Gaimin Gladiators versus TSM.

The standing for this best of 5 series is currently 2-0 and that's in favor of GG and that's why I think that we're about to see the ending of this game early.

Another championship again for the GG and with Quinn's dell keyboard LOL, free sponsorship if you know what I mean guys. It's about his interview when he was asked to show his keyboard.

Look at this bet, I watched the first two games and GG was slaying TSM for sure then I decided not to watch it anymore and thought that this is going to be 3-0 for sure Roll Eyes

. GG sure do all of the bettors dirty there by letting TSM won a single map

Dreamleague is starting in another 2 days and this is probably the last top tier tournament that we will have before the break for TI so this is going to be pretty interesting on wether some top teams will be dropping out since the group stage or not. Im pretty sure that some teams will be willing to sacrifice this tournament rather than showing off their strats

That had saved you time but it's not a 3-0 but a 3-1 ending. Still, we've got some idea on how the finals will go. I guess that GG is now full buffed and there's one more tournament that they need to play with before the TI.

And that's the DreamLeague Season 21. It seems that this is gonna be a good practice tournament for all the participating teams that are also qualified in TI except for OG.

They're the only team on this upcoming tournament on Monday that's not qualified to TI.

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Quote from: sunsilk on September 16, 2023, 09:34:26 AM

Looks like we're about to see the ending of the BetBoom Dacha. The finals is with Gaimin Gladiators versus TSM.

The standing for this best of 5 series is currently 2-0 and that's in favor of GG and that's why I think that we're about to see the ending of this game early.

Another championship again for the GG and with Quinn's dell keyboard LOL, free sponsorship if you know what I mean guys. It's about his interview when he was asked to show his keyboard.

Look at this bet, I watched the first two games and GG was slaying TSM for sure then I decided not to watch it anymore and thought that this is going to be 3-0 for sure Roll Eyes

. GG sure do all of the bettors dirty there by letting TSM won a single map

Dreamleague is starting in another 2 days and this is probably the last top tier tournament that we will have before the break for TI so this is going to be pretty interesting on wether some top teams will be dropping out since the group stage or not. Im pretty sure that some teams will be willing to sacrifice this tournament rather than showing off their strats

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Looks like we're about to see the ending of the BetBoom Dacha. The finals is with Gaimin Gladiators versus TSM.

The standing for this best of 5 series is currently 2-0 and that's in favor of GG and that's why I think that we're about to see the ending of this game early.

Another championship again for the GG and with Quinn's dell keyboard LOL, free sponsorship if you know what I mean guys. It's about his interview when he was asked to show his keyboard.

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Quote from: Balmain on September 15, 2023, 11:07:30 AM

I can say that it was a bit of a fantastic try. 5yclone tried to win the map with a good game on the map they chose, but they lost close. Vertigo had a strong lead in CT in its own election. They defended their A attack especially well. It ended 11-4, there will probably be no response from 5yclone. The next Imperial-Apeks match is more exciting. If I can follow it, I will watch that match. It is a very close match, in fact, both sides can win this match. In my opinion, your prediction, Imperial, seems closer.

Yeah, both teams almost had it. Gotta say it was worth the odds.

Today's matches should be even more exciting with two elimination and one qualification match. 9z should win against M80 who haven't really shown anything in their previous matches.

Fnatic vs Apeks will be the most interesting match today. I think the maps will be Ancient, Anubis, and Inferno based on their recent pick and bans. Not sure about Anubis, but Fnatic should be stronger on Ancient and Inferno, so I'll bet on them.

For 5yclone vs Imperial, I'm betting on 5cylone again. This should be closer than the odds suggest.

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Quote from: arallmuus on September 14, 2023, 02:24:09 PM

I guess there isnt much to bet on until the next TI but I guess Im putting in some money for tomorrow

TSM seems to have improved so Im betting on them to win against BC although I would say BC is abit better but its a bo3 game so perhaps TSM could pull a 2-1 win somehow. Obviously the other bet would be GG -1.5, self explanatory obviously its GG so there is no way that anyone would doubt that team

With this match of Team Secret vs GG actually, secret always makes an import to their team many people saying that they will give rest to Armel because of his performance during that time reason why Sumail make a Standin to their team, actually the pick invoker with this match is not really effective I don't see the use of using Dragon lance in this game for invoker. Also Ace makes a really good run and dominated top with his combo of Tide with Meteor hammer surely people will pick this in pub because of its too much tankyness + the combo of leash new skills. I bet with the GG here its already in favor to them and congrats to the GG bettors too.

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Quote from: arallmuus on September 15, 2023, 04:27:39 AM

So basically they are dropping this and it seems we will have alot more offline events huh. Basically DPC reached it peak when everyone was staying at home due to covid and it just make sense now that they are droppin this to encourage alot more organizer to host their very own offline tournament. This actually seems pretty exciting though and when I read your post, I thought they will be dropping TI 2024 as well but phew glad that they didnt

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Well I guess it is what it is

At the same time, it feels like Valve now wants to rely on the organizers, but I wonder how many of them will stay because i've heard organizers don't make anything from hosting Dota tournaments unless they get a bit of help from Valve or have a solid backing like the ESL.

I also want to take TSM after their clean and quick series win against BC, but i'll go with Team Secret. I still think Puppey and Sumail will take care of TSM for the third time and have a rematch against GG in the finals.

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As expected in the ESL Pro League group c upper bracket final match, we will watch the Faze-NaVi struggle. We can say that this final match is actually an important test match for both teams. I see NaVi one step ahead because they came with better results against their opponents in this tournament. In the Lower Bracket Final match, we will watch the Apeks-Fnatic match. It is sure to be a tough match for both teams, but I expect Fnatic to win.
In the last change stage, we can expect Imperial or the loser of the Lower bracket final to finish 4th.

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I am very surprised by apeks winning the first map against imperial and that too imperial's pick - overpass

Apeks havent impressed me at all so far in esl pro league, but i might be a bit biased due to losing a bet on them vs navi

On for map 2 however i do think apeks should take it as imperial certainly didnt do anything at all on their last played match on ancient

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The matches in group A of the RES Eastern European Masters tournament have been completed.Eternal Fire managed to come out of the group as the leader.They defeated both Spirit and Redpack.Woxic and Xantares' performances were impressive in EF, who managed to win against Spirit, even if it was a bit difficult. Woxic finished the match with a score of 25-4 against Redpack and 26-11 against Spirit.Woxic has not been playing this well for a long time, he seems to be really well prepared.The awper in the team is an event that every team wants such a performance.This makes it easier for the teams to win the match.

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Quote from: dothebeats on September 14, 2023, 05:54:28 PM

Quote from: arallmuus on September 14, 2023, 02:24:09 PM

I guess there isnt much to bet on until the next TI but I guess Im putting in some money for tomorrow

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TSM still plays poorly in my eyes, and they have a lot of catching up to do even with BC. But it's a good bet with good odds, so betting on TSM to win or +1.5 is somewhat valuable and with reason as well. As for GG, well -1.5 is obviously the play against the newly reorganized Secret.

Well it seems I was spot on with this, TSM have improved for sure and they won 2-0 against BC. The odds for TSM -1.5 was probably over 3x for sure but no sane person would be betting on that because it seems pretty risky. As for GG 2-0 against Team Secret I guess this one was pretty easy to guess as there isnt that many team that could win against GG

Quote from: dothebeats on September 14, 2023, 05:54:28 PM

Armel is getting kind of comfortable with the team, but it's GG so there's a very little chance that they manage to succeed against the said team.

Armel? I thought Sumail was standing in for the team

Definitely will be taking TSM to win against Secret for tomorow, its just straight moneyline bet for TSM on this one

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Quote from: dbshck on September 13, 2023, 08:17:56 AM

EPL Group C starts today! I will skip Navi as the odd is unattractive and sure they'll win comfortably. The rest of the matches look mostly one-sided too. I'll just bet on fnatic vs Imperial instead.

All the favorites win their initial match-up as expected. I missed yesterday's games but happy to see that Navi and FaZe secured the playoffs spot and will face each other in the upper final games later in Sunday.

As for today's matches, betting on the underdog just because we haven't seen any upsets yet Cheesy

I can say that it was a bit of a fantastic try. 5yclone tried to win the map with a good game on the map they chose, but they lost close. Vertigo had a strong lead in CT in its own election. They defended their A attack especially well. It ended 11-4, there will probably be no response from 5yclone. The next Imperial-Apeks match is more exciting. If I can follow it, I will watch that match. It is a very close match, in fact, both sides can win this match. In my opinion, your prediction, Imperial, seems closer.

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Quote from: dbshck on September 13, 2023, 08:17:56 AM

EPL Group C starts today! I will skip Navi as the odd is unattractive and sure they'll win comfortably. The rest of the matches look mostly one-sided too. I'll just bet on fnatic vs Imperial instead.

All the favorites win their initial match-up as expected. I missed yesterday's games but happy to see that Navi and FaZe secured the playoffs spot and will face each other in the upper final games later in Sunday.

As for today's matches, betting on the underdog just because we haven't seen any upsets yet Cheesy

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Quote from: ralle14 on September 14, 2023, 05:49:24 PM

It's surprising to see an announcement from Valve about discontinuing the Dota Pro Circuit for next year. Shocked

I guess it's also for the better after they mentioned the different downsides with the DPC like the downgrade in production and ESL will probably become one of the few organizers to start their own DPC since we already saw their point system had success on the side of CSGO. I'm looking forward to what structure they'll try to introduce next year since I thought the DPC was already good enough.

So basically they are dropping this and it seems we will have alot more offline events huh. Basically DPC reached it peak when everyone was staying at home due to covid and it just make sense now that they are droppin this to encourage alot more organizer to host their very own offline tournament. This actually seems pretty exciting though and when I read your post, I thought they will be dropping TI 2024 as well but phew glad that they didnt

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Well I guess it is what it is

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Quote from: arallmuus on September 14, 2023, 02:24:09 PM

I guess there isnt much to bet on until the next TI but I guess Im putting in some money for tomorrow

TSM seems to have improved so Im betting on them to win against BC although I would say BC is abit better but its a bo3 game so perhaps TSM could pull a 2-1 win somehow. Obviously the other bet would be GG -1.5, self explanatory obviously its GG so there is no way that anyone would doubt that team

TSM still plays poorly in my eyes, and they have a lot of catching up to do even with BC. But it's a good bet with good odds, so betting on TSM to win or +1.5 is somewhat valuable and with reason as well. As for GG, well -1.5 is obviously the play against the newly reorganized Secret. Armel is getting kind of comfortable with the team, but it's GG so there's a very little chance that they manage to succeed against the said team.

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It's surprising to see an announcement from Valve about discontinuing the Dota Pro Circuit for next year. Shocked

I guess it's also for the better after they mentioned the different downsides with the DPC like the downgrade in production and ESL will probably become one of the few organizers to start their own DPC since we already saw their point system had success on the side of CSGO. I'm looking forward to what structure they'll try to introduce next year since I thought the DPC was already good enough.

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