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I've noticed that they've deleted quite a few posts in the last 24 hours or so according to my instant e-mail notifications of new posts. Is it possible to have a thread that mirrors the content of the moderated Betcoin thread that includes all posts, maybe with the posts that they delete highlighted in red? I think it's interesting to see the posts they delete in the context of the original thread.

When you post in their censorship threads, make a copy. If they delete it, post it here again.

People were confused and asked the betcoin.ag censorship threads mods what they consider as spam and what not, but there is a fundamental misunderstood:

Their censorship threads were created to mislead the public and delete critical content and not to avoid spam!
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The following links were sent to me anonymously.  I don't have a full understanding of of what's going on or how serious this issue is:

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Phishers using CloudFlare for SSL
Some Content Delivery Networks (CDNs) enable fraudsters to deploy phishing attacks with valid SSL certificates. Not only does this make the fraudulent sites appear more credible, but they also benefit from the fast response times provided by the CDN.
From https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2013/10/07/phishers-using-cloudflare-for-ssl.html

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CloudFlare's half-baked SSL: suspicious sockets layer
We were inspired to collect the data on this page after reading this report: Phishers using CloudFlare for SSL. Also see this technical analysis (PDF, 545 KB) on the use of SSL by CloudFlare and similar services. The CloudFlare certificates we found all had the common name in the same style as the "ssl2796.cloudflare.com"
-snip-
We compiled this list by attempting a handshake with the CloudFlare domains in our database. With an older version of OpenSSL on port 443, our handshake fails if the certificate uses SNI. CloudFlare's use of SNI is for "universal" SSL, and is available on free accounts. The "standard" certificates we want mean that the domain has a paid account at CloudFlare. These make up about five percent of the domains that use CloudFlare, according to news reports. It's all a marketing effort anyway, whether paid or free. There is no such thing as "secure" SSL when you have potential Men-In-The-Middle at scores of data centers around the world. Local authorities could be sniffing the plaintext available at these data centers, and CloudFlare wouldn't have a clue.
From http://crimeflare.net:82/cfssl.html

Code:
betcoin.ag 367617
betcoin.pk 279207
betcoin.tm 370128
betcoincasino.com 279207
betcoinpoker.com 279207
betcoinsports.com 279207

I couldn't find any other bitcoin casinos that I've heard of on the list.

as a layman, what are you saying? LOL
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The following links were sent to me anonymously.  I don't have a full understanding of of what's going on or how serious this issue is:

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Phishers using CloudFlare for SSL
Some Content Delivery Networks (CDNs) enable fraudsters to deploy phishing attacks with valid SSL certificates. Not only does this make the fraudulent sites appear more credible, but they also benefit from the fast response times provided by the CDN.
From https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2013/10/07/phishers-using-cloudflare-for-ssl.html

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CloudFlare's half-baked SSL: suspicious sockets layer
We were inspired to collect the data on this page after reading this report: Phishers using CloudFlare for SSL. Also see this technical analysis (PDF, 545 KB) on the use of SSL by CloudFlare and similar services. The CloudFlare certificates we found all had the common name in the same style as the "ssl2796.cloudflare.com"
-snip-
We compiled this list by attempting a handshake with the CloudFlare domains in our database. With an older version of OpenSSL on port 443, our handshake fails if the certificate uses SNI. CloudFlare's use of SNI is for "universal" SSL, and is available on free accounts. The "standard" certificates we want mean that the domain has a paid account at CloudFlare. These make up about five percent of the domains that use CloudFlare, according to news reports. It's all a marketing effort anyway, whether paid or free. There is no such thing as "secure" SSL when you have potential Men-In-The-Middle at scores of data centers around the world. Local authorities could be sniffing the plaintext available at these data centers, and CloudFlare wouldn't have a clue.
From http://crimeflare.net:82/cfssl.html

Code:
betcoin.ag 367617
betcoin.pk 279207
betcoin.tm 370128
betcoincasino.com 279207
betcoinpoker.com 279207
betcoinsports.com 279207

I couldn't find any other bitcoin casinos that I've heard of on the list.
hero member
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Crypto.games
The following statements are facts:

1. I have never posted in the Betcoin Censored thread

2. Yesterday I was curious about their slots so I asked a couple of questions

3. Instead of answering my questions, they deleted my post

Here is the post in question:



Now ask yourself...WHY would they delete this?  It's not spam.  It's not trolling.  It's questions about their product.  It gave them an opportunity to brag!  Why would they want this gone?

Interesting. Well, they're probably leery whenever the topic "jackpot" arises. They'll just automatically assume it's a prelude to an attack of some sort.

Anyway, I would think that most players would stay clear of sites with such serious issues like these, be it jackpots/payments/support. Not to mention the presence of a 'self-moderated' thread itself. I mean, why would one even need a 'self-moderated' thread, if they're not hiding anything. The mere fact that they just delete anything they don't like says a lot on how they operate. Tsk.
legendary
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I've noticed that they've deleted quite a few posts in the last 24 hours or so according to my instant e-mail notifications of new posts. Is it possible to have a thread that mirrors the content of the moderated Betcoin thread that includes all posts, maybe with the posts that they delete highlighted in red? I think it's interesting to see the posts they delete in the context of the original thread.

I'm trying to keep up with a list in OP, not sure, probably not possible to get what youre asking for. Would be nice though.

Let me know what I miss guys:

CENSORED POSTS:
Submit anything Betcoin has deleted from any of their threads on this forum or their own.
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I've noticed that they've deleted quite a few posts in the last 24 hours or so according to my instant e-mail notifications of new posts. Is it possible to have a thread that mirrors the content of the moderated Betcoin thread that includes all posts, maybe with the posts that they delete highlighted in red? I think it's interesting to see the posts they delete in the context of the original thread.
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^^^They had to make room to promote their latest Betsoft progressive slot.
legendary
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The following statements are facts:

1. I have never posted in the Betcoin Censored thread

2. Yesterday I was curious about their slots so I asked a couple of questions

3. Instead of answering my questions, they deleted my post

Here is the post in question:



Now ask yourself...WHY would they delete this?  It's not spam.  It's not trolling.  It's questions about their product.  It gave them an opportunity to brag!  Why would they want this gone?
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Betcoin Casino Adds 3D Slots Charms & Clovers and Great 88

Betcoin Casino is pleased to add the 3D slots Charms & Clovers and Great 88 to our casino slots lineup.

CHARMS AND CLOVERS brings ancient Irish myth to life in gorgeous high definition colour! Introducing an innovative sixth reel that controls four distinct bonus features, this 40 payline game will have you searching for that fabled pot of gold time and time again!



The world of GREAT 88 presents opportunities to win like never before! This gorgeous game captures the essence of a peaceful evening, brimming with exquisite Asian-inspired detail and a novel bonus system that will keep your players searching for luck and good fortune with every spin!



Betcoin will also be bringing many of your favorite casino providers in soon as several deals are being finalized for inclusion at Betcoin!


Play today at www.betcoin.ag/casino

Funny, they don't mention the fact that the Irish game offers multiple progressive jackpots.
Betsoft released it the same week as the "Jasonort Resolution", wonder what took them so long...
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It's funny to see them congratulate one of their sig campaign members on becoming hero status when theres so much proof that the account has been sold many times, (one notable owner being the bitcoinblackfriday scammer) and the user has at least one other hero account in the fortunejack campaign (likely several more) and makes the most thoughtless posts in the most obvious sig slut bate threads ...

Congratulations to all the members who ranked up this month as you will be earning even more bitcoin!  Thank you all for your great posts and support. 
Hi everyone. Congratulations lorylore! It is a happy moment every time our participant rank up. I would also like to thank to new candidates I sent you a message.



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We are almost full but recruitment continues. New candidates can get a chance to join the queue and sometimes get a spot right away. It all depends on your activity and the quality of posts. Thank you.

Thanks a lot. It is been my privilege to have been here since stage 1 and grew together with the betcoin community. It has been the best signature campaign i was ever in and i hope this will continue to last for years. I also wish that betcoin will have a strong and growing customers base.
lorylore, we thank you and all of our great members for your continued support.  Your words here mean a tremendous amount to us and we will continue to provide one of if not the best signature campaign here at bitcoin talk.  Thank you very much for taking the time to write these wonderful words.  We appreciate you.  
Hi everyone. Congratulations lorylore! It is a happy moment every time our participant rank up. I would also like to thank to new candidates I sent you a message.

Hi, Perhaps you aren't aware that Lorylore is a farmed account. (it actually belonged to the guy responsible for the big bitcoinblackfriday phishing scam last year at some point)

Lorylore also has another Legendary Account in the FortuneJack campaign,  hua_hui

There are others too I'm sure.  I posted proof here and also in the known Alts list.  Also just look at their trust ratings.

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Another lol deleted post.



Maybe it's true and JessicAndrew is hiding this thread and all the censored posts from the rest of staff so is looks like (s)he's doing a good job.
legendary
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They pay their sig campaign members more than twice as much Bitcoin per month than they put into these vip freerolls. 

That should be the headline, that's insane!
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Betcoin announced more vip freerolls:

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1) 06, November 2016 - The Bronze II 500 mbtc Freeroll at 15:00 EST - All players VIP Bronze II level and higher will receive a ticket to this tournament

2) 13, November 2016 - The Silver III 1,000 mbtc Freeroll at 15:00 EST - All players VIP Silver III and higher will receive a ticket to this tournament

3) 20, November 2016 - The Gold III 1,500 mbtc Freeroll at 15:00 EST - All players VIP Gold III and higher will receive a ticket to this tournament.

Ignoring questions on if they are monthly, why gold got reduced, and what about Emerald+ players:

"Monthly 25 BTC Master Freeroll   Daily Master Surprise Box"
"Monthly 10 BTC Diamond Freeroll   Daily Diamond Surprise Box"
"Monthly 5 BTC Ruby Freeroll   Daily Ruby Surprise Box"
"Monthly 3 BTC Emerald Freeroll   Daily Emerald Surprise Box"
"Monthly 2 BTC Gold Freeroll   Daily Gold Surprise Box"
"Monthly 1 BTC Silver Freeroll   Daily Silver Surprise Box"


https://www.betcoin.ag/vip-players-club-1

Just a small correction: last month all three freerolls had 1BTC prizepools.  This month the Bronze prize pool is 500mBTC lower and the Gold 500mBTC higher.

They don't even mention Bronze on that page.

I think it's just a page they forgot to take down tbh.

Also worth noting:

They pay their sig campaign members more than twice as much Bitcoin per month than they put into these vip freerolls.  Although, to be fair, their sig campaign members probably put in twice as many hours as Betcoin Players as a whole.  (And there is almost no overlap)
legendary
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Betcoin announced more vip freerolls:

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1) 06, November 2016 - The Bronze II 500 mbtc Freeroll at 15:00 EST - All players VIP Bronze II level and higher will receive a ticket to this tournament

2) 13, November 2016 - The Silver III 1,000 mbtc Freeroll at 15:00 EST - All players VIP Silver III and higher will receive a ticket to this tournament

3) 20, November 2016 - The Gold III 1,500 mbtc Freeroll at 15:00 EST - All players VIP Gold III and higher will receive a ticket to this tournament.

Ignoring questions on if they are monthly, why gold got reduced, and what about Emerald+ players:

"Monthly 25 BTC Master Freeroll   Daily Master Surprise Box"
"Monthly 10 BTC Diamond Freeroll   Daily Diamond Surprise Box"
"Monthly 5 BTC Ruby Freeroll   Daily Ruby Surprise Box"
"Monthly 3 BTC Emerald Freeroll   Daily Emerald Surprise Box"
"Monthly 2 BTC Gold Freeroll   Daily Gold Surprise Box"
"Monthly 1 BTC Silver Freeroll   Daily Silver Surprise Box"


https://www.betcoin.ag/vip-players-club-1

Just a small correction: last month all three freerolls had 1BTC prizepools.  This month the Bronze prize pool is 500mBTC lower and the Gold 500mBTC higher.
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Betcoin announced more vip freerolls:

Quote
1) 06, November 2016 - The Bronze II 500 mbtc Freeroll at 15:00 EST - All players VIP Bronze II level and higher will receive a ticket to this tournament

2) 13, November 2016 - The Silver III 1,000 mbtc Freeroll at 15:00 EST - All players VIP Silver III and higher will receive a ticket to this tournament

3) 20, November 2016 - The Gold III 1,500 mbtc Freeroll at 15:00 EST - All players VIP Gold III and higher will receive a ticket to this tournament.

Ignoring questions on if they are monthly, why gold got reduced, and what about Emerald+ players:

"Monthly 25 BTC Master Freeroll   Daily Master Surprise Box"
"Monthly 10 BTC Diamond Freeroll   Daily Diamond Surprise Box"
"Monthly 5 BTC Ruby Freeroll   Daily Ruby Surprise Box"
"Monthly 3 BTC Emerald Freeroll   Daily Emerald Surprise Box"
"Monthly 2 BTC Gold Freeroll   Daily Gold Surprise Box"
"Monthly 1 BTC Silver Freeroll   Daily Silver Surprise Box"


https://www.betcoin.ag/vip-players-club-1

Same empty promises = willful deception like their jackpots do not get paid!
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Spear the bees
I'm not even sure what's in there or if there's any left. There was 0.00177 and 0.0003 withdrawn.

What did you use for Betcoin registration that's the same with your localbitcoins account? (Email, password, username)?

It may have been a security leak, either from a third-party source, or in the worst case, Betcoin, attempting to quite simply scam user information before anything is done on the main site itself. After all, the announcement of the VIP freerolls would increase volume (potentially anyway) so it's the perfect time to start the exit scam.
legendary
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It's probably some security hole on my end but I had about 0.003 btc taken from my betcoin account. The email was sent to confirm and somehow it was confirmed without me clicking it. My email is secure so I feel there's something else going on here.


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Xolr,

A withdrawal request has been initiated from your account with the following details:

Send Currency: btc Send Amount: 0.00098000 Send Address: 1BSkZ4tFJDxqeuEuZzSoEwFupbvNgucNkU

If all the information above is correct please click the link below to confirm this withdrawal: https://www.betcoin.ag/authenticate?token=APX8WYvzbYRmYbc86ex7ujPezkpFHCnQ&hash=02b0001915b594f636f4f700812561f7

If you did not request a withdrawal please respond: Not Confirmed



Then 8 minutes later:

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Xolr,

Your withdrawal for 0.00177000 btc has been sent to 0.00177000 1BSkZ4tFJDxqeuEuZzSoEwFupbvNgucNkU.


There was an additional withdraw confirm of 0.0003 btc without a request so I don't know. I wasn't even aware of the funds on the account so it's not much of a bother to me.

Futhermore I also got some notifications from localbitcoins about a password attempt and 2fa cancelation request was initiated but I canceled it. Dunno, any insight would be appreciated. I'm not worried about the funds though.

How long had it been since you logged into your account?  It's possible that they are stealing 'dormant' customer funds.

How much was in your account? 

I'm not even sure what's in there or if there's any left. There was 0.00177 and 0.0003 withdrawn.
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Betcoin announced more vip freerolls:

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1) 06, November 2016 - The Bronze II 500 mbtc Freeroll at 15:00 EST - All players VIP Bronze II level and higher will receive a ticket to this tournament

2) 13, November 2016 - The Silver III 1,000 mbtc Freeroll at 15:00 EST - All players VIP Silver III and higher will receive a ticket to this tournament

3) 20, November 2016 - The Gold III 1,500 mbtc Freeroll at 15:00 EST - All players VIP Gold III and higher will receive a ticket to this tournament.

Ignoring questions on if they are monthly, why gold got reduced, and what about Emerald+ players:

"Monthly 25 BTC Master Freeroll   Daily Master Surprise Box"
"Monthly 10 BTC Diamond Freeroll   Daily Diamond Surprise Box"
"Monthly 5 BTC Ruby Freeroll   Daily Ruby Surprise Box"
"Monthly 3 BTC Emerald Freeroll   Daily Emerald Surprise Box"
"Monthly 2 BTC Gold Freeroll   Daily Gold Surprise Box"
"Monthly 1 BTC Silver Freeroll   Daily Silver Surprise Box"


https://www.betcoin.ag/vip-players-club-1
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It's probably some security hole on my end but I had about 0.003 btc taken from my betcoin account. The email was sent to confirm and somehow it was confirmed without me clicking it. My email is secure so I feel there's something else going on here.


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Xolr,

A withdrawal request has been initiated from your account with the following details:

Send Currency: btc Send Amount: 0.00098000 Send Address: 1BSkZ4tFJDxqeuEuZzSoEwFupbvNgucNkU

If all the information above is correct please click the link below to confirm this withdrawal: https://www.betcoin.ag/authenticate?token=APX8WYvzbYRmYbc86ex7ujPezkpFHCnQ&hash=02b0001915b594f636f4f700812561f7

If you did not request a withdrawal please respond: Not Confirmed



Then 8 minutes later:

Quote
Xolr,

Your withdrawal for 0.00177000 btc has been sent to 0.00177000 1BSkZ4tFJDxqeuEuZzSoEwFupbvNgucNkU.


There was an additional withdraw confirm of 0.0003 btc without a request so I don't know. I wasn't even aware of the funds on the account so it's not much of a bother to me.

Futhermore I also got some notifications from localbitcoins about a password attempt and 2fa cancelation request was initiated but I canceled it. Dunno, any insight would be appreciated. I'm not worried about the funds though.

How long had it been since you logged into your account?  It's possible that they are stealing 'dormant' customer funds.

How much was in your account? 
legendary
Activity: 2030
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It's probably some security hole on my end but I had about 0.003 btc taken from my betcoin account. The email was sent to confirm and somehow it was confirmed without me clicking it. My email is secure so I feel there's something else going on here.


Quote
Xolr,

A withdrawal request has been initiated from your account with the following details:

Send Currency: btc Send Amount: 0.00098000 Send Address: 1BSkZ4tFJDxqeuEuZzSoEwFupbvNgucNkU

If all the information above is correct please click the link below to confirm this withdrawal: https://www.betcoin.ag/authenticate?token=APX8WYvzbYRmYbc86ex7ujPezkpFHCnQ&hash=02b0001915b594f636f4f700812561f7

If you did not request a withdrawal please respond: Not Confirmed



Then 8 minutes later:

Quote
Xolr,

Your withdrawal for 0.00177000 btc has been sent to 0.00177000 1BSkZ4tFJDxqeuEuZzSoEwFupbvNgucNkU.


There was an additional withdraw confirm of 0.0003 btc without a request so I don't know. I wasn't even aware of the funds on the account so it's not much of a bother to me.

Futhermore I also got some notifications from localbitcoins about a password attempt and 2fa cancelation request was initiated but I canceled it. Dunno, any insight would be appreciated. I'm not worried about the funds though.

How long had it been since you logged into your account?  It's possible that they are stealing 'dormant' customer funds.
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