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legendary
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Finally my post got deleted. Took them so long, longer than I expected. Was a legitimate question though, so the only reason it was deleted would be that they can't answer honestly without losing their reputation even more.

Could you define exactly what you mean by "No spam"? That would be appreciated.



Hi DarkStar, great question.  No spam means generally if a post is deleted, don't post it or something like it again.  This by no means is the final and only definition as we are new to this.  We were advised to proceed this way as there are a few people who just can't resist spamming in our threads.  We started to receive too many complaints from our great players about the spam and the feedback since the change has been great.  Thanks.

 
Define what kinds of posts will be deleted (expecting this one to be). I was asking what counts as spam to be deleted, but you completely dodged my question (apologies if you interpreted it differently)
it is very simple to understand; any post where  you ask your rights or you say some things that annoys the OP. Your post will be deleted and considered as spam.( like this one  Grin)

I wish we could give you a precise definition, but we encourage you to ask "your rights" and never mind being "annoyed" as you state.  We also listen and hear all feedback and are consistently making improvements.  
Yay, completely dodged again! (surprised none of this has been deleted yet). Tell me my rights in this thread then. It isn't very hard to give a definition of spam (ie posts that add nothing related to the site, or posts that are offtopic). Or the 'actual' definition - Stupid Pointless Annoying Message. If your just going to dodge this, don't even bother.

legendary
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More stuff Betcoin wants to hide:

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« Sent to: TwitchySeal on: Today at 10:46:19 AM »

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Are these "Vip Freerolls" the monthly ones that have been "coming soon" for at least the past 18 months?

I could of missed the announcment, but it seems like you just got rid of the the "coming soon" advertisment and decided to have a few one time BTC1 freerolls without bothering to explain what happened to the "monthly" part.

Here's what was advertised from March 2015 until just recently:
 


Here's what the vip page says now:



Not making good on your promise is lame, but doing it without any sort of explanation (or apology maybe?) just makes things worse, in my opinion.

Also, your VIP page states that players are entitled to 5 status points for every "1 chip bet" while playing poker.
That would make achieving VIP levels much easier.  It would also be very easy to exploit.  I doubt it matters though since it's probably just another mistake.

Currently on https://www.betcoin.ag/vip:
legendary
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I can confirm Darkdays explanation.

I believe chat mod/site pro plo8monster said it was "due to a few bad apples" or something similiar.  He was referring to players dumping fraudulent funds (likely related to credit card deposits) to Betcoin accounts for easy cashouts.

Standard Betcoin mentality though if their system is exploited, blame those 'bad apples' who exploited it instead of the exploitable system

legendary
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According to Betcoin.ag, they are working on it and WPN (WTN) Sit&Gos will be back:

Betcoin also said that jackpots would be live ~6 months ago and that they weren't stealing BBJ funds and that nobody accessed their private databases and stole customer's personal information.

Betcoin lies.

If you don't know that, I legit don't understand what you are doing in this thread.  You aren't helping the situation, it seems like you are just spamming your site.  Please stop.

How did you help the situation? From where do you have that info?

I helped the situation by correctly answering someone's question.

I have the info from always having my eyes and ears open, trusting my sources, and understanding how to put together two half-truths to read the full story.  You are right...they are criminals.  And I feel that en exit scam is on the horizon.  We all need to work together as a community to help, educate, and hopefully steer them away from malfeasance and towards being a legit business, like the rest of the WTN.  That's a win-win.  I'm sure you'll agree.
hero member
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According to Betcoin.ag, they are working on it and WPN (WTN) Sit&Gos will be back:

Betcoin also said that jackpots would be live ~6 months ago and that they weren't stealing BBJ funds and that nobody accessed their private databases and stole customer's personal information.

Betcoin lies.

If you don't know that, I legit don't understand what you are doing in this thread.  You aren't helping the situation, it seems like you are just spamming your site.  Please stop.

How did you help the situation? From where do you have that info?
legendary
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According to Betcoin.ag, they are working on it and WPN (WTN) Sit&Gos will be back:

Betcoin also said that jackpots would be live ~6 months ago and that they weren't stealing BBJ funds and that nobody accessed their private databases and stole customer's personal information.

Betcoin lies.

If you don't know that, I legit don't understand what you are doing in this thread.  You aren't helping the situation, it seems like you are just spamming your site.  Please stop.
hero member
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I answered his questions perfectly:

1) No WPN Sit&Gos = Betcoin.ag is not connected

2) Betcoin.ag mBTC Sit&Gos NEVER run = Betcoin.ag traffic is dead = no customers

My explanation for 1) might be wrong, so feel free to post the documents confirming that they refuse it?

If Betcoin.ag is a security risk for the WPN skins, then they likely got kicked and not Betcoin.ag refuse to join the WPN Sit&Gos. Betcoin.ag is a criminal operation and they do not care about anything! So they likely would not refuse it, especially as this show that their own Sit&Go is dead = no customers.  Wink

Opposed to their 77,000 forum members  Cheesy

...what?

I told you exactly what happened.  There was a ton of fraud being committed, WTN told Betcoin that they needed better security or else they would be liable for paying the network the money they lost from fraudulent charge-backs that were laundered through Betcoin.  Betcoin said "no" because they didn't want to improve their security and didn't want to pay for the fraud that people were committing through their site.  

According to Betcoin.ag, they are working on it and WPN (WTN) Sit&Gos will be back:

what happened to the WPN sit-n-go tourneys?

There was some abuse of the SitnGo's that we are working to fix and integrate them back in among other things.  We will certainly keep you posted.  Thank you.  
legendary
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I answered his questions perfectly:

1) No WPN Sit&Gos = Betcoin.ag is not connected

2) Betcoin.ag mBTC Sit&Gos NEVER run = Betcoin.ag traffic is dead = no customers

My explanation for 1) might be wrong, so feel free to post the documents confirming that they refuse it?

If Betcoin.ag is a security risk for the WPN skins, then they likely got kicked and not Betcoin.ag refuse to join the WPN Sit&Gos. Betcoin.ag is a criminal operation and they do not care about anything! So they likely would not refuse it, especially as this show that their own Sit&Go is dead = no customers.  Wink

Opposed to their 77,000 forum members  Cheesy

...what?

I told you exactly what happened.  There was a ton of fraud being committed, WTN told Betcoin that they needed better security or else they would be liable for paying the network the money they lost from fraudulent charge-backs that were laundered through Betcoin.  Betcoin said "no" because they didn't want to improve their security and didn't want to pay for the fraud that people were committing through their site. 
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thanks for the answers
hero member
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I answered his questions perfectly:

1) No WPN Sit&Gos = Betcoin.ag is not connected

2) Betcoin.ag mBTC Sit&Gos NEVER run = Betcoin.ag traffic is dead = no customers

My explanation for 1) might be wrong, so feel free to post the documents confirming that they refuse it?

If Betcoin.ag is a security risk for the WPN skins, then they likely got kicked and not Betcoin.ag refuse to join the WPN Sit&Gos. Betcoin.ag is a criminal operation and they do not care about anything! So they likely would not refuse it, especially as this show that their own Sit&Go is dead = no customers.  Wink

Opposed to their 77,000 forum members  Cheesy
legendary
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logged in for the first time in a while... what happened to the WPN sit-n-go tourneys? All I see are the mBTC, and they NEVER run... Any info is appreciated
Betcoin.ag join(ed) the WPN Sit&Gos thru the Winning Tournament Network (WTN). Betcoin.ag is no skin on the WPN like ACR, BlackChip, Trupoker, etc..
If the WPN Sit&Gos are not available anymore, they obviously got kicked.

Their mBTC Sit&Gos NEVER run, confirms that their own traffic is almost dead. They recently moved to censorship and self-moderated threads and this typically confirms the last stage of their scam/ponzi scheme! Run, run, run...  Cheesy

You didn't answer his question.  I don't think you are doing anything to help the situation.

The answer to the question is that Betcoin has such horrible security that they were helping to facilitate fraud.  Someone would go on ACR or BCP, use a stolen credit card to deposit, and then lobby a HU SNG at the same time as their buddy (or them on another computer) who was playing on Betcoin.  The ACR/BCP account would intentionally lose to the Betcoin player who would then withdraw.  Betcoin security wouldn't catch them and they would be able to steal the money scot-free.  Instead of improving their security, Betcoin just refused to participate in WTN SNGs.
hero member
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logged in for the first time in a while... what happened to the WPN sit-n-go tourneys? All I see are the mBTC, and they NEVER run... Any info is appreciated
Betcoin.ag join(ed) the WPN Sit&Gos thru the Winning Tournament Network (WTN). Betcoin.ag is no skin on the WPN like ACR, BlackChip, Trupoker, etc..
If the WPN Sit&Gos are not available anymore, they obviously got kicked.

Their mBTC Sit&Gos NEVER run, confirms that their own traffic is almost dead. They recently moved to censorship and self-moderated threads and this typically confirms the last stage of their scam/ponzi scheme! Run, run, run...  Cheesy
full member
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logged in for the first time in a while... what happened to the WPN sit-n-go tourneys? All I see are the mBTC, and they NEVER run... Any info is appreciated
legendary
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This is serious coming from a popular site on this platform is very discouraging and bad... I think the awareness should be more than this for people to be aware of the activities going on there... In my opinion if you're running a public facility then you should develop a thick skin and not censor post to your taste...
I'm kinda out of loop to this. I thought, they are a big casino. What is the exact allegation against Betcoin.ag?

Read the OP.  Everything is explained in full with links.
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we are still here and we will stay forever.
snip 

This is very unclear.  You say you opened 10 accounts and then say that you didn't open any other accounts. 


it's true I thought it was an old story, after that betcoinandrew requested me to stop creating alt account and reactivate my old one I thought my historic has been deleted but that was not the case, If I knew this, I never go back to their casino and that's what I'll do.
legendary
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This is serious coming from a popular site on this platform is very discouraging and bad... I think the awareness should be more than this for people to be aware of the activities going on there... In my opinion if you're running a public facility then you should develop a thick skin and not censor post to your taste...
I'm kinda out of loop to this. I thought, they are a big casino. What is the exact allegation against Betcoin.ag?
legendary
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sr. member
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we are still here and we will stay forever.
I am very happy to find this thread where  I can talk freely about my experience in their site;
so here is my story with these S O B of betcoin.ag:
all was started about six month ago when i decided to start playing online and my misfortune conduct me to this fucking casino and deposit over 2BTC, everything was going well (provided I deposits money).
one day frequenting their stupid chat i had a discussion withe some member that has degenerated, and they asked the staff to banned me from the site and that's what he have done.
i don't like the fact that i was banned because of some player that have the same rank as me but who have experience in licking balls requested it, and open a new account to complete my discussion but each time they remove it, i opened about 10 account but still not terminate my discussion with him; the day after with a new account betcoinandrew asked me to stop creating alt account and reactivate my oldest one(with a bronzIII VIP) and like an idiot I accept that but I rarely visited their casino since that day.
2 days ago i deposited a small amount and asked for my new depositor freeroll ticket but still no response, and today contacted him in the live support and the surprise:


Live Support
Ask us anything
Chat started
ghost15
Ticket #65227
   
Ticket #65227
   
Betcoin Danny joined the chat
   
Betcoin Danny
Hello
   
you are not eligible to play in that freeroll due to multiple accounts
Betcoin Danny left the chat
ghost15
multiple account Huh??
   
cant i know what is my alt account here?
   
Betcoin Danny joined the chat
   
Betcoin Danny
correct
   
should I tell you all accounts
   
this account will be terminated
ghost15
yes i'm interested because i was never had an alt account
   
   
Betcoin Danny
I do not like people who lie
   
your computer parameters are detected by the system
ghost15
it's bad to accuse people
   
ok it's not a problem
   
i have lost a silver vip level in you site it's will not be a problem to lose this one 
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