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Crooks everywhere!

UltraPlay eSports LIVE BETTING Schedule; Available Only @ Betcoin & VitalBet!

Dear eSports fans,

Please find the schedule for today's live games ONLY at http://VitalBet.com & https:/ /sports.Betcoin.ag

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Vitalbet - The official Sportsbook and Casino of Manny Pacquiao     Betcoin- The most advanced Bitcoin- Sprotsbook and Casino Website in the World!
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I think the relationship between the betcoin.ag scam and Betsoft scam gaming software should be meanwhile very clear to everyone:

1) Betcoin.ag sent progressive jackpot contributions to Betsoft

2) Betsoft did not pay crystal clear won 500 Bitcoins jackpot

3) Instead of kicking off Betsoft, betcoin.ag continue to send progressive jackpot contributions!

Only someone part of Betsoft would act this way, or not?



legendary
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Well they instantly deleted this just now.

What new addition would you like to see added to Betcoin?

I would like to see more transparency from Betcoin management.  For example: the results of the independent audit of Betsoft (or an explanation of why the audit never happened) as well as the relationship between Betsoft and Betcoin, both of which were promised by Betcoin Jessica and Andrew last July.

A response to the accusations made in this post would be excellent.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16745828



^^^none of this ever happened
hero member
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Oh oh, Alexa rank down 27,055 http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/betcoin.ag

-> this explains their new motto CUT, CUT, CUT  Cheesy

Meanwhile 161,749 - 54,242 = 50% down within 2 months!


RUN, RUN, RUN, the last will be bitten by the dogs! Cheesy
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Betcoin still one of the greatest and trusted house, so why you reserve this bid for full member and greater???
Involve newbie in this process will give the Betcoin Ag the opportunity to get a label ambassador from the newbie position to legendary!!!
Betcoin will guarantee the engagement for a long period 😉

What I suggest! Betcoin Ag must Review the policy of the ad compaign service!
Regards

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

20 players in average is doubtless a sign of "greatest" and did not pay a crystal clear won 500 BTC jackpot is doubtless a sign of "trusted"!

Like war is peace and the sun is moon!
hero member
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Totally approve of this rb service. I'm at gold now so that's 63% and climbing! The great thing is that Xiao helps me out when support is backed up, and he's always answered my messages within 24hrs.
Support is "backed up" with only 20 micro stakes players in average, is a poverty certificate!

You can have at WPN skins 27% flat rakeback + leaderboard prizes + $55 tournament entry weekly. Hard to believe you can climb much higher with the very low micro stakes traffic on betcoin.ag. Roll Eyes
legendary
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I don't know how this stuff works, but found this list as one of their top linked sources:

http://ip-173-201-142-193.ip.secureserver.net/Alexa/Alexa_28.html

pretty close on the list...

141908   betsoftgaming.com
142221   betcoin.ag

They don't have connection but both are not paying jackpot. Betsoft is a casino game supplier which offers various casino games to all sites. Betcoin is just a site.
How do you know that they have no relation? Only an insider could know.

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I hereby confirm that I have effectively cooperated and reached an agreement with Betcoin.ag and Betsoft in relation to a dispute over a jackpot payout.
Even the jackpot "settlement" states an agreement with Betsoft, even though betcoin.ag is solely the contract partner if you play slots at betcoin.ag.

And why do betcoin.ag persist to offer Betsoft scam gaming software, even after Betsoft allegedly did not pay? I mean almost everyone would quit after this desaster, wouldn't they?

In addition, the army of 70 promoters here on bitcointalk, while they have a very low poker traffic compared. This does not really look like a standalone site.

There are a lot of things indicating that they are connected...

Betsoft should be built and found before betcoin, casino game suppliers like betsoft do not need to operate a casino, many casinos(min 30, or 50, or 100?) implement betsoft games, which they can easily profit 100-1000 BTC per month(suppliers usually charge 10%-20% of net profit), they don't need to run a new site like betcoin, you also said betcoin is losing money. Why they run a casino with monthly losses?

Betsoft definitely came way before Betcoin.

But why wouldn't they operate casinos on their own?  Just because they don't need to?

They also don't need to be super non-transparent and refuse to ever communicate directly with players in any way.
hero member
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I don't know how this stuff works, but found this list as one of their top linked sources:

http://ip-173-201-142-193.ip.secureserver.net/Alexa/Alexa_28.html

pretty close on the list...

141908   betsoftgaming.com
142221   betcoin.ag

They don't have connection but both are not paying jackpot. Betsoft is a casino game supplier which offers various casino games to all sites. Betcoin is just a site.
How do you know that they have no relation? Only an insider could know.

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I hereby confirm that I have effectively cooperated and reached an agreement with Betcoin.ag and Betsoft in relation to a dispute over a jackpot payout.
Even the jackpot "settlement" states an agreement with Betsoft, even though betcoin.ag is solely the contract partner if you play slots at betcoin.ag.

And why do betcoin.ag persist to offer Betsoft scam gaming software, even after Betsoft allegedly did not pay? I mean almost everyone would quit after this desaster, wouldn't they?

In addition, the army of 70 promoters here on bitcointalk, while they have a very low poker traffic compared. This does not really look like a standalone site.

There are a lot of things indicating that they are connected...

Betsoft should be built and found before betcoin, casino game suppliers like betsoft do not need to operate a casino, many casinos(min 30, or 50, or 100?) implement betsoft games, which they can easily profit 100-1000 BTC per month(suppliers usually charge 10%-20% of net profit), they don't need to run a new site like betcoin, you also said betcoin is losing money. Why they run a casino with monthly losses?
With the introduction of Bitcoins, it would make sense for Betsoft to create their own, anonymous casino.

Betsoft rent their software to anonymous and criminal casinos, that would perfectly fit with the behaviour of betcoin.ag.

Betsoft <-> Betcoin

If Betsoft make up to USD 1 million per month, why did they not pay the jasonort jackpot? Does this make any sense? It was at least important for betcoin.ag/Betsoft that jasonort publicly state everything is fine.

Why all the trouble if Betsoft make that much money and not simply pay the jackpot?

If you offer Betsoft scam gaming software and they do not pay a crystal clear won 500 or even 1000 Bitcoins jackpot, then the only reason I can see why betcoin.ag would continue to offer Betsoft is because they are connected.

Betcoin.ag can never grow again after the jackpot fiasko, their business is destroyed, but as a thank you they continue to work with Betsoft? They continue to transfer the progressive jackpot contributions to Betsoft, knowing that Betsoft did not pay? Does this make any sense, if betcoin.ag is not connected to Betsoft?

sr. member
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I don't know how this stuff works, but found this list as one of their top linked sources:

http://ip-173-201-142-193.ip.secureserver.net/Alexa/Alexa_28.html

pretty close on the list...

141908   betsoftgaming.com
142221   betcoin.ag

They don't have connection but both are not paying jackpot. Betsoft is a casino game supplier which offers various casino games to all sites. Betcoin is just a site.
How do you know that they have no relation? Only an insider could know.

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I hereby confirm that I have effectively cooperated and reached an agreement with Betcoin.ag and Betsoft in relation to a dispute over a jackpot payout.
Even the jackpot "settlement" states an agreement with Betsoft, even though betcoin.ag is solely the contract partner if you play slots at betcoin.ag.

And why do betcoin.ag persist to offer Betsoft scam gaming software, even after Betsoft allegedly did not pay? I mean almost everyone would quit after this desaster, wouldn't they?

In addition, the army of 70 promoters here on bitcointalk, while they have a very low poker traffic compared. This does not really look like a standalone site.

There are a lot of things indicating that they are connected...

Betsoft should be built and found before betcoin, casino game suppliers like betsoft do not need to operate a casino, many casinos(min 30, or 50, or 100?) implement betsoft games, which they can easily profit 100-1000 BTC per month(suppliers usually charge 10%-20% of net profit), they don't need to run a new site like betcoin, you also said betcoin is losing money. Why they run a casino with monthly losses?
hero member
Activity: 1344
Merit: 507
I don't know how this stuff works, but found this list as one of their top linked sources:

http://ip-173-201-142-193.ip.secureserver.net/Alexa/Alexa_28.html

pretty close on the list...

141908   betsoftgaming.com
142221   betcoin.ag

They don't have connection but both are not paying jackpot. Betsoft is a casino game supplier which offers various casino games to all sites. Betcoin is just a site.
How do you know that they have no relation? Only an insider could know.

Quote
I hereby confirm that I have effectively cooperated and reached an agreement with Betcoin.ag and Betsoft in relation to a dispute over a jackpot payout.
Even the jackpot "settlement" states an agreement with Betsoft, even though betcoin.ag is solely the contract partner if you play slots at betcoin.ag.

And why do betcoin.ag persist to offer Betsoft scam gaming software, even after Betsoft allegedly did not pay? I mean almost everyone would quit after this desaster, wouldn't they?

In addition, the army of 70 promoters here on bitcointalk, while they have a very low poker traffic compared. This does not really look like a standalone site.

There are a lot of things indicating that they are connected!
legendary
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I don't know how this stuff works, but found this list as one of their top linked sources:

http://ip-173-201-142-193.ip.secureserver.net/Alexa/Alexa_28.html

pretty close on the list...

141908   betsoftgaming.com
142221   betcoin.ag

They don't have connection but both are not paying jackpot. Betsoft is a casino game supplier which offers various casino games to all sites. Betcoin is just a site.
There's a lot of evidence that suggests the same people are behind Betsoft and Betcoin.  Not sure if the Alexa thing is a clue or not though.

In addition to the way they (attempted) to cover up the Betsoft Jackpot (Betcoin blamed Betsoft, Betsoft remained silent) there's this poker connection also: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16798099
sr. member
Activity: 331
Merit: 250
I don't know how this stuff works, but found this list as one of their top linked sources:

http://ip-173-201-142-193.ip.secureserver.net/Alexa/Alexa_28.html

pretty close on the list...

141908   betsoftgaming.com
142221   betcoin.ag

They don't have connection but both are not paying jackpot. Betsoft is a casino game supplier which offers various casino games to all sites. Betcoin is just a site.
legendary
Activity: 2688
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I don't know how this stuff works, but found this list as one of their top linked sources:

http://ip-173-201-142-193.ip.secureserver.net/Alexa/Alexa_28.html

pretty close on the list...

141908   betsoftgaming.com
142221   betcoin.ag
hero member
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This is good news about NitrogenSports' Alexa rank, as I offer them. Smiley
Pokerscout.com data compared:

Betcoin.ag: 7 day average: 20, 24 hour peak: 55

NitrogenSports: 7 day average: 14, 24 hour peak: 40

-> I would be not surprised if betcoin.ag somehow deliver faked data!


Alexa rank data compared:

Betcoin.ag: Global 147,318 (-34,915), US 53,062

NitrogenSports: Global 51,089 (+19,792), US 10,966
hero member
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Oh oh, Alexa rank down 27,055 http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/betcoin.ag

-> this explains their new motto CUT, CUT, CUT  Cheesy


Their biggest competitor, nitrogen's alexa rank is 50k, 10k in US. Nitrogen must be the biggest bitcoin gambling site for US, but their live betting is poor, if they enhance it, no site will be better than it. Also nitrogen has much more active poker players.

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/nitrogensports.eu
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my email was hacked 4weeks ago... they closed my account as i requested"tbh they closed it without any proof it was actually me the owner" but w/e
then they refused to allow me to create a new account... so i had to get a phonecard for my old cellphone so i could reclaim my email...

5days ago they reactivated my account and even though i now have my email... the "request new pw" for betcoin isn't working... i sent a ticket 4days ago so they could help and still no reply... i was going to talk with live support today to see if they could forward it but the site seems to be down "Forbidden

You don't have permission to access / on this server."

i have never liked betcoin but after losing my accounts i realized no matter how shitty they are and all the other wpn skins it's really the only choice for americans...

ignition may be a little better but it took 3weeks just to get verified to cashout and everytime i play there it's a new hassle...


betcoin brian is the one that refused to allow me a new account... i didn't take screenshots so believe what ever...
after telling him 2times my email was hacked i couldn't access it he kept repeating "why didn't you just change your password instead of having your account closed"

just go to wpn homepage there is basically 0 requirments for those monkeys who work there... and the sad thing is... betcoin brian and betcoin "andrew" are the names of the supervisors you talk to on any other skin... americas cardroom, betcoin, blackchip etc... with only 1network for me to play where i live everyskin is ran by the same monkeys who run betcoin i love poker, but i guess i will not being playing it until there are more options



oh and a few months back when i sent a report to them, saying tournament tickets could be exploited for entries into tournaments they're not meant for
staff told me it was nothing...


since it's nothing i'll posting here...
                         change user id
https://www.betcoin.ag/user/xxxx/dashboard/poker_tour_tickets/register/xxxxx
if you paste this into your browser with the id of a 2seat gtd you will exchange a step1 ticket for this entry...

i haven't tried this enough to know which ones you can or can't enter but it works 100% for 2seat dailys


you can find tournament ids in the pokerlobby
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LOOOOOL, 20 players in average and 5 of them = 25% of traffic sit with $10 at the table! Cheesy

They pay 70 criminals to recruit in average 20 players! I am not surprised at all, considering the dumb writing style of most of them.

hero member
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So it was 100%, then it was 50%, now it's 0. 

I guess the cash games must be booming with business and they don't need people to be starting tables.



...oh.  Guess not.  Why else would they be taking away something that was helping them? 

Wow...
where do you find your data? That's not really the busy type...

In fact I don't see how a site can continue existing with so little users Oo
The explanation is very simple: Betcoin.ag cheat their little users. Jasonort i.e. was scammed for 450BTC, others speak about 950BTC.
hero member
Activity: 1344
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Oh oh, Alexa rank down 27,055 http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/betcoin.ag

-> this explains their new motto CUT, CUT, CUT  Cheesy
legendary
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Really?  You're gonna pull up a non credible Sharkscope algorithm?  If you knew what you were looking at then you'd realize that playing satellites (which is what I do) skews those curves....LOL...
Sharkscope results don't include sattys (or rebuy/add-on totals)
Those are just for 1,867 of your previous non-satty WPN tournaments.
I don't think you satellited into many of them since your ave buyin is $1.52.

I never use sharkscope to needle fish, but I'm making an exception for you since I know full well you've been around for a while and aren't oblivious to how the poker world works - yet you continue to try and skew the perception of those who don't with your Betcoin shilling.


I only showed you a couple days worth of playing the satties and the FEW (I have more) I showed you amount to over $320....Maybe you need to rethink your understanding of the Sharkscope algorithm a little....LOL....Maybe a little extrapolation will help.
I showed you the results of 1,867 tournaments you've played.



That's funny....why aren't the games I have listed above.....and all the other games I haven't listed....included in your statistics?  Are  you cutting and pasting over information again?  Why did you cut them out?  Are you trying to say that the games I posted above are not real???  I don't get it? LOL....Wow!  You will stop at no level of deception will you?  Are you and game-protect making large enough profits to rationalize all the deception now?
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