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December 30, 2016, 03:54:28 AM
Hi everyone, I've been around for a while now.. 
I've seen a lot of posts positive and negative about Ethereum.

At the moment I am holding Bitcoins, but I have invested in some Ether as well.

Now I am wondering, what are legitimate concerns about Ether (except for IPO, as I've already read this in a lot of posts).

So can anyone bring real other issues to the table, to enlighten me (and maybe a lot of other readers?)

Thanks!
Actually fall and down and change in any coin ( wether is fiat or cryptocurrency ) is a natural things .
Well I found 2 days ago that ETH is at very low price for one month Down record , After see this I made buy and it was just magic to increase price slowly but good .
I Also found that after Bitcoin Bitcoiner are using ETH as cryptocurrency  & find it successful Coin  in online market .
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December 30, 2016, 03:37:18 AM
what are legitimate concerns about Ether

Total coin supply is unknown
Will PoS actually work?
They hard-forked and re-wrote history on the blockchain causing a split
So many ICOs have milked the community...will they dump and drive price down?
ETH has not made a single useful DAPP to date
Lots of attack surfaces and they have had non-stop issues for the last 6+ months needing forks and patches etc..


I heard bank santander is using the Ethereum block chain.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/devcon2-santander-ethercamp-building-bridges-between-bank-accounts-ethereum-1582242

Spanish banking giant Santander is making a bold move in the direction of Ethereum by creating a way to tie bank accounts and fiat currency to tokens on the Turing complete blockchain system.

Demonstrating this innovation was the bank's partner within the Ethereum community, EtherCamp, which has been building out the Ethereum Javascript environment for past couple of years, among other things.

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The first use case of the Santander/EtherCamp CashEth project is micropayments, so leveraging the agility of the Ethereum blockchain to pay tiny amounts to read newspaper articles with zero fees, recorded on the blockchain.

Roman Mandeleil lead developer of EtherCamp told IBTimes UK: "It's a way of using a Santander bank account to convert fiat currency into tokens to be used on Ethereum."

Mandeleil showed how a Santander bank account will provide a button which creates an Ethereum account. "In this bank account you are going to have a parallel Ethereum account on Ethereum network. So Santander is going to know about this so it is going to be tied.

"It gives them a very nice way to do features. One of those is going to be to take dollars, put them in frozen account, and give you an amount of tokens that is backed by this reserve.

"So it's not a gold reserve but it's a dollar reserve. So you are going to upload these tokens into the blockchain and you are going to have the stability of real dollars or euros. And you are going to have the agility of Ethereum blockchain," he said.

Anything that comes close to connecting public blockchains with banks is going to face a ton of regulation. Mandeleil explained that Santander had been working with his team for nine months looking at things like regulation.

"Their legal staff was like – this is going to be difficult. But they got excited and actually start to work with the regulators. They are going to start in one country and you are going to see the system live. There are questions for regulators and we solved some of them, not all of them."

Mandeleil said Santander has been opening all the APIs in the bank for his team to ensure regulatory compliance. "It's not easy; it involves IT guys inside banks. They have given us these kind of bridges. We cannot say which country this will be rolled out in. Banco Santander started in Spain but it's much bigger. They have several options.

In terms of timing, Mandeleil said he wants to see it live next year, adding that he is flying to Madrid after DevCon to continue working with Santander. "We were talking about months but with banks it is difficult," he said.

The next step is to open an API for the system, for developers. "Because we don't want to develop all the features, we want them to develop whatever they want."

He added: "I'm a libertarian guy but I see that we really need this. The movement of blockchains is going one way and banks are also moving towards blockchain - these movements are going to meet somewhere. We are working on both because built Ethereum infrastructure and now we are working with banks."

Santander, which is sponsoring DevCon2, is establishing itself as one of the foremost innovators across all areas of blockchain. The bank has been a long time champion of Ripple and the ways it can connect interbank payments across borders.

The CashEth project is being overseen by Julio Faura, head of R&D at the bank and John Whelan director of Santander's Blockchain Lab, so something of a seasoned blockchain team.

More recently, Santander joined UBS as a backer of London-based Clearmatics (which creates a clearing system based on the Ethereum Virtual Machine) and the Utility Settlement Coin project, which is bringing central bank cash a step closer to blockchain.

Faura told IBTimes: "Of course there are regulatory issues, not linked to Ethereum per se, but linked to the idea of using a distributed ledger as a store of record for segregation of accounts, that is one topic. And also about privacy and so on. So these are things that we are working to solve with compliance people."

Faura clarified this has nothing to do with linking bank accounts to a cryptocurrency like Bitcoin. He said it was tokens backed by a Santender bank account. "This could be the bank or it could be some other kind of licence and the idea is this entity would back, would be guaranteeing if you want, those tokens by having a deposit at the bank level.

"There are other approaches. You know that we are present in the Settlement Coin project. It is similar but more serious; it's more up-scale in the sense it is intended to work as a pseudo-central bank. The deposits will be in central bank accounts.

"Here, we are just talking about regular bank account. We are talking about micropayments, small scale. Settlement coin is to settle trades between financial institutions and bigger amounts of money."

So Santander seems to be pivoting in the direction of Ethereum, one way or another. Faura, who holds a PhD in computer science and likes building smart contracts on Ethereum, said: "I think Ethereum is very interesting. It's a very well run project and the possibilities are bigger. Block times, for example, help in many of these projects we want to innovate on. It would be unfeasible if we did it on top of Bitcoin blockchain."

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December 27, 2016, 09:43:29 AM
what are legitimate concerns about Ether

Total coin supply is unknown
Will PoS actually work?
They hard-forked and re-wrote history on the blockchain causing a split
So many ICOs have milked the community...will they dump and drive price down?
ETH has not made a single useful DAPP to date
Lots of attack surfaces and they have had non-stop issues for the last 6+ months needing forks and patches etc..




I heard bank santander is using the Ethereum block chain.
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December 24, 2016, 09:45:42 AM
what are legitimate concerns about Ether

Total coin supply is unknown
Will PoS actually work?
They hard-forked and re-wrote history on the blockchain causing a split
So many ICOs have milked the community...will they dump and drive price down?
ETH has not made a single useful DAPP to date
Lots of attack surfaces and they have had non-stop issues for the last 6+ months needing forks and patches etc..


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December 24, 2016, 08:56:49 AM
what are legitimate concerns about Ether
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December 24, 2016, 05:47:07 AM
Etherium is still good for investment as its price is on the uptrend again. Some predicts that this trend would continue next year.
A lot of gud exciting things coming to ETH next year, not least Metropolis, POS, sharding, etc.
Most of the opinions I see regarding switching to POS algorithm are negative comments. Will not this bring elements of centralization to the system? Why would this be good news?
You're seeing it as not gud news because you are holding nothing of note. Negativity begets negativity.

PoS is not good.
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December 21, 2016, 12:30:38 PM
Etherium is still good for investment as its price is on the uptrend again. Some predicts that this trend would continue next year.
A lot of gud exciting things coming to ETH next year, not least Metropolis, POS, sharding, etc.
Most of the opinions I see regarding switching to POS algorithm are negative comments. Will not this bring elements of centralization to the system? Why would this be good news?
You're seeing it as not gud news because you are holding nothing of note. Negativity begets negativity.
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December 21, 2016, 09:32:07 AM
Etherium is still good for investment as its price is on the uptrend again. Some predicts that this trend would continue next year.
A lot of gud exciting things coming to ETH next year, not least Metropolis, POS, sharding, etc.
Most of the opinions I see regarding switching to POS algorithm are negative comments. Will not this bring elements of centralization to the system? Why would this be good news?
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December 21, 2016, 08:26:03 AM
Etherium is still good for investment as its price is on the uptrend again. Some predicts that this trend would continue next year.
A lot of gud exciting things coming to ETH next year, not least Metropolis, POS, sharding, etc.
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December 21, 2016, 08:13:05 AM
Etherium is still good for investment as its price is on the uptrend again. Some predicts that this trend would continue next year.
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December 20, 2016, 03:20:31 PM
I've only started learning about altcoins, would you suggest eth to newbies? I don't know the technical differences among all these altcoins and how that would matter. Well I did read but it'll take time for me to digest all the info. So far I've only heard about bitcoin and ethereum and the only thing I know about the latter is it's much cheaper to buy that bitcoin. I believe it's at around $12 currently.

you know whole "hype" about ETH at20$ was about big banks using EHT.. but and end they CREATE OWN eth blockchains not related to crypto ETH.
So gettingETH up such massive again will be very hard since 60m$ DAO failed hard.
Maybe better look now for some good coins which are selling below ICO price but have active team maybe LISK or Waves gettting there 3x-10x is more possible than with ETH.

Ethereum Bitcoin or ETC chain will be the common chain. The banks will use that if they want to do business with other people.

Seems legit!
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December 20, 2016, 02:46:11 PM
I've only started learning about altcoins, would you suggest eth to newbies? I don't know the technical differences among all these altcoins and how that would matter. Well I did read but it'll take time for me to digest all the info. So far I've only heard about bitcoin and ethereum and the only thing I know about the latter is it's much cheaper to buy that bitcoin. I believe it's at around $12 currently.

you know whole "hype" about ETH at20$ was about big banks using EHT.. but and end they CREATE OWN eth blockchains not related to crypto ETH.
So gettingETH up such massive again will be very hard since 60m$ DAO failed hard.
Maybe better look now for some good coins which are selling below ICO price but have active team maybe LISK or Waves gettting there 3x-10x is more possible than with ETH.

Ethereum chain will be the common chain. The banks will use that if they want to do business with other people.
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December 18, 2016, 07:17:04 PM
I've only started learning about altcoins, would you suggest eth to newbies? I don't know the technical differences among all these altcoins and how that would matter. Well I did read but it'll take time for me to digest all the info. So far I've only heard about bitcoin and ethereum and the only thing I know about the latter is it's much cheaper to buy that bitcoin. I believe it's at around $12 currently.

you know whole "hype" about ETH at20$ was about big banks using EHT.. but and end they CREATE OWN eth blockchains not related to crypto ETH.
So gettingETH up such massive again will be very hard since 60m$ DAO failed hard.
Maybe better look now for some good coins which are selling below ICO price but have active team maybe LISK or Waves gettting there 3x-10x is more possible than with ETH.
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December 18, 2016, 03:21:34 PM
I've only started learning about altcoins, would you suggest eth to newbies? I don't know the technical differences among all these altcoins and how that would matter. Well I did read but it'll take time for me to digest all the info. So far I've only heard about bitcoin and ethereum and the only thing I know about the latter is it's much cheaper to buy that bitcoin. I believe it's at around $12 currently.
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December 18, 2016, 11:46:43 AM
i think ethereum still have a chance to be altcoin people choice because until now,  we see in the market, the ethereum price is up and down too oftern and i think ethereum is still have a fans. ethereum itself is a good alt and we can make invest with ethereum but not for long time, and we only want make profit by buying and selling ethereum on the market.
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December 18, 2016, 06:24:50 AM
ETC Monetary Policy Event tomorrow: https://www.meetup.com/EthereumClassic/events/235470622/

If you're in or around London, grab a chance to attend - it's gotta be very interesting.

Any further news?
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December 12, 2016, 11:08:20 PM
ETC Monetary Policy Event tomorrow: https://www.meetup.com/EthereumClassic/events/235470622/

If you're in or around London, grab a chance to attend - it's gotta be very interesting.
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December 09, 2016, 12:36:17 PM
Ehtereum is one of the best altcoins to invest with. You know when you
plan to invest its a totally risks. But invest only of what you can afford
to lose though ethereum is one the altcoins for long now. Also,
its better that dont put your money in one basket.

Before the ZCash, the Ethereum could be the best coin to invest. But the ZCash could be the best for now.

The difficult of the ZCash mining is rising fast and the price is also dropping fast. It is not so profitable now.
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November 25, 2016, 06:12:46 AM
Ehtereum is one of the best altcoins to invest with. You know when you
plan to invest its a totally risks. But invest only of what you can afford
to lose though ethereum is one the altcoins for long now. Also,
its better that dont put your money in one basket.

Before the ZCash, the Ethereum could be the best coin to invest. But the ZCash could be the best for now.
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November 24, 2016, 05:20:39 PM
Ehtereum is one of the best altcoins to invest with. You know when you
plan to invest its a totally risks. But invest only of what you can afford
to lose though ethereum is one the altcoins for long now. Also,
its better that dont put your money in one basket.
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