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Topic: Etherium Classic - Callisto airdop 5th of March 2018 - page 16. (Read 8214 times)

newbie
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i tried to transfer some etherium classic from poloniex  to coinomi wallet to get callisto  but it has been 10 hours and not transfered yet, does it take days?
Usually it's fast and take less then hour, maybe you forget to confirm withdrawal on your email?

Have the same issue
can't withdraw from poloniex

same .. pending since the 23rd .. getting ridiculous and suspicious to boot
checked coinomi wallet and finally there this evening.  So maybe poloniex withdrawal just take a few days.  If people have troubles, they could open ticket at poloniex.  From what others have said in this forum though, support might take a while.

it shouldnt take this long, but it did, I did however get mine transferred after 2 days (no ticket)

Definitely shouldn't
better to change to BTC...withdraw and change to ETC somewhere else
member
Activity: 111
Merit: 10
i tried to transfer some etherium classic from poloniex  to coinomi wallet to get callisto  but it has been 10 hours and not transfered yet, does it take days?
Usually it's fast and take less then hour, maybe you forget to confirm withdrawal on your email?

Have the same issue
can't withdraw from poloniex

same .. pending since the 23rd .. getting ridiculous and suspicious to boot
checked coinomi wallet and finally there this evening.  So maybe poloniex withdrawal just take a few days.  If people have troubles, they could open ticket at poloniex.  From what others have said in this forum though, support might take a while.

it shouldnt take this long, but it did, I did however get mine transferred after 2 days (no ticket)
newbie
Activity: 38
Merit: 0
i tried to transfer some etherium classic from poloniex  to coinomi wallet to get callisto  but it has been 10 hours and not transfered yet, does it take days?
Usually it's fast and take less then hour, maybe you forget to confirm withdrawal on your email?

Have the same issue
can't withdraw from poloniex

same .. pending since the 23rd .. getting ridiculous and suspicious to boot
checked coinomi wallet and finally there this evening.  So maybe poloniex withdrawal just take a few days.  If people have troubles, they could open ticket at poloniex.  From what others have said in this forum though, support might take a while.
newbie
Activity: 27
Merit: 0
Going by Callisto whitepaper, the supply is many billions so is huge so do not have high expectations from that.

TLDR: Two significant advantages of a large coin supply are improved price granularity and reduced psychological transaction costs relative to coins with a lower emission and/or higher value.


I heard the same "supply is many billions so is huge so do not have high expectations" naysaying when Cardano was 300 sats.

Instead of listening to the FUD, I listened to my FOMO and backed the truck up. Cool

More people need to understand the interplay of "round number bias" and the psychological costs (IE market friction induced by high cognitive load) of using high priced/low emission coins for small transactions.

How Round Number Bias and Psychological Pricing Affect Your Gains and Spending

You may have partied like it was 1999, but the big celebration was in 2000.  Your shopping cart is consistently full of products with prices ending in “.99”.  Your last salary negotiation involved numbers rounded off to the nearest $5,000 or $10,000.

All of these examples aren’t coincidence – it turns out that there is a round number bias in humans.  Closely related to that, pricing strategies known as psychological pricing or charm pricing have evolved to exploit your penchant for round numbers.

Round Number Bias: Your Brain Likes the ‘0’s

Humans have a round number bias.  It’s been passed onto us by socialization.

Think about it – picking a Base-10 number system was an arbitrary choice.  It was probably an anthropomorphic choice based on the number of fingers the average (fine, modal) human possesses.

However, something in our upbringing – or a combination of numbers and an evolved trait – means we’re just more comfortable with numbers ending with zero.

A large community of people enjoy being able to be Dogecoin millionaires and how much more fun it is tipping each other many 1000s of Doge rather than an equivalent value expressed as a tiny portion of a Bitcoin or Dash.

The objective value transferred is equivalent but the human psychology involved is nothing alike, because giving/receiving a 10,000 Doge tip is a subjectively more satisfying experience than using the equivalent 0.0001 Bitcoin or 0.001 Dash.

These kinds of cognitive artifacts result from brain structures relating to the human mind's sense of numeracy and its subitization engine.

https://i.imgur.com/DkYMdU6.png

Subitizing is the rapid, accurate, and confident judgments of numbers performed for small numbers of items. The term was coined in 1949 by E.L. Kaufman et al.,[1] and is derived from the Latin adjective subitus (meaning "sudden") and captures a feeling of immediately knowing how many items lie within the visual scene, when the number of items present falls within the subitizing range.[1] Number judgments for larger set-sizes are referred to either as estimating if insufficient time is available for observers to accurately count all the items present, or counting otherwise.

The accuracy, speed, and confidence with which observers make judgments of the number of items are critically dependent on the number of elements to be enumerated. Judgments made for displays composed of around one to four items are rapid,[2] accurate[3] and confident.[4] However, as the number of items to be enumerated increases beyond this amount, judgments are made with decreasing accuracy and confidence.[1] In addition, response times rise in a dramatic fashion, with an extra 250–350 ms added for each additional item within the display beyond about four.[5]


The best work in this space has been done our revered Professor Szabo.

https://i.imgur.com/bXlXOV5.png

https://i.imgur.com/eCtWmM4.png

His conclusion is neatly summarized by one of our favorite Bitcoin memes:

https://i.imgur.com/O6711eU.jpg

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

One source of objection to high emission coins comes from reckoning using the metaphor of a publicly traded company's stock share structure.  Stocks with a very high number of shares are considered diluted, usually due to having many rounds of share issuance to raise capital after several unprofitable quarters/years.

The market sees stock buybacks and corresponding share issuance reduction as a sign of a strong company; investors like there to be fewer shares because the stock price may move up more easily due to reduced liquidity (recall that prices are set on the margin).

This metaphor may be of some use when considering coins that actually behave with shared characteristics comparable to a publicly traded company's stock, where 1 coin and 1 share equal 1 vote, such as Decred and Cardano.

But the metaphor breaks down when it's taken into account that the number of coins in a cryptocurrency's present/total emission is arbitrary.  IE, a Bitcoin is just an arbitrary number of satoshis and the number of atomic units may be limited artificially or as a result of the fundamental capacity of the 64-bit memory address space.

A coin's architect must make these design decisions despite the fact they are somewhat akin to picking magic numbers and after launch fairly 'set in stone' because of social contract considerations.

The coin's architect is thus faced with picking these magic numbers based on what has/hasn't worked for previous coins and their own taste (IE intuition).  The market then decides if the architect has good or bad taste in magic numbers (IE fundamental parameters).

The market's decision doesn't happen in a vacuum and depends on if the coin's emission/nomenclature parameters are a good fit for its intended/actual use cases.

Thus for Bitcoin, which is destined to become high-powered super money, a relatively low total emission of 21e6 is perfect.

But for other coins, which naturally fulfill lessor/supporting roles as mere mediums of exchange, a far lower per-unit value is desirable as a way to leverage our visually oriented brains' (and resultant cultures') highly optimized, low cognitive load pathways for subitization and mental calculation.



Good post!
member
Activity: 266
Merit: 10
Read it on some  thread here or another site that it will cause Etherium Classic to go
towards $100 possibly into this event. May play out similar to the big gains in NXT leading to
IGNIS airdrop or not.

Ignis airdrop is fail project airdrop because the price of nxt dump very bad after airdrop.
The nxt price is temporary high and not like bitcoin when bitcoincash fork.
I think this the reason of etc goes up but be careful about the price will be down after airdrop.
legendary
Activity: 2156
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
Going by Callisto whitepaper, the supply is many billions so is huge so do not have high expectations from that.

TLDR: Two significant advantages of a large coin supply are improved price granularity and reduced psychological transaction costs relative to coins with a lower emission and/or higher value.


I heard the same "supply is many billions so is huge so do not have high expectations" naysaying when Cardano was 300 sats.

Instead of listening to the FUD, I listened to my FOMO and backed the truck up. Cool

More people need to understand the interplay of "round number bias" and the psychological costs (IE market friction induced by high cognitive load) of using high priced/low emission coins for small transactions.

How Round Number Bias and Psychological Pricing Affect Your Gains and Spending

You may have partied like it was 1999, but the big celebration was in 2000.  Your shopping cart is consistently full of products with prices ending in “.99”.  Your last salary negotiation involved numbers rounded off to the nearest $5,000 or $10,000.

All of these examples aren’t coincidence – it turns out that there is a round number bias in humans.  Closely related to that, pricing strategies known as psychological pricing or charm pricing have evolved to exploit your penchant for round numbers.

Round Number Bias: Your Brain Likes the ‘0’s

Humans have a round number bias.  It’s been passed onto us by socialization.

Think about it – picking a Base-10 number system was an arbitrary choice.  It was probably an anthropomorphic choice based on the number of fingers the average (fine, modal) human possesses.

However, something in our upbringing – or a combination of numbers and an evolved trait – means we’re just more comfortable with numbers ending with zero.

A large community of people enjoy being able to be Dogecoin millionaires and how much more fun it is tipping each other many 1000s of Doge rather than an equivalent value expressed as a tiny portion of a Bitcoin or Dash.

The objective value transferred is equivalent but the human psychology involved is nothing alike, because giving/receiving a 10,000 Doge tip is a subjectively more satisfying experience than using the equivalent 0.0001 Bitcoin or 0.001 Dash.

These kinds of cognitive artifacts result from brain structures relating to the human mind's sense of numeracy and its subitization engine.



Subitizing is the rapid, accurate, and confident judgments of numbers performed for small numbers of items. The term was coined in 1949 by E.L. Kaufman et al.,[1] and is derived from the Latin adjective subitus (meaning "sudden") and captures a feeling of immediately knowing how many items lie within the visual scene, when the number of items present falls within the subitizing range.[1] Number judgments for larger set-sizes are referred to either as estimating if insufficient time is available for observers to accurately count all the items present, or counting otherwise.

The accuracy, speed, and confidence with which observers make judgments of the number of items are critically dependent on the number of elements to be enumerated. Judgments made for displays composed of around one to four items are rapid,[2] accurate[3] and confident.[4] However, as the number of items to be enumerated increases beyond this amount, judgments are made with decreasing accuracy and confidence.[1] In addition, response times rise in a dramatic fashion, with an extra 250–350 ms added for each additional item within the display beyond about four.[5]


The best work in this space has been done our revered Professor Szabo.





His conclusion is neatly summarized by one of our favorite Bitcoin memes:



 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

One source of objection to high emission coins comes from reckoning using the metaphor of a publicly traded company's stock share structure.  Stocks with a very high number of shares are considered diluted, usually due to having many rounds of share issuance to raise capital after several unprofitable quarters/years.

The market sees stock buybacks and corresponding share issuance reduction as a sign of a strong company; investors like there to be fewer shares because the stock price may move up more easily due to reduced liquidity (recall that prices are set on the margin).

This metaphor may be of some use when considering coins that actually behave with shared characteristics comparable to a publicly traded company's stock, where 1 coin and 1 share equal 1 vote, such as Decred and Cardano.

But the metaphor breaks down when it's taken into account that the number of coins in a cryptocurrency's present/total emission is arbitrary.  IE, a Bitcoin is just an arbitrary number of satoshis and the number of atomic units may be limited artificially or as a result of the fundamental capacity of the 64-bit memory address space.

A coin's architect must make these design decisions despite the fact they are somewhat akin to picking magic numbers and after launch fairly 'set in stone' because of social contract considerations.

The coin's architect is thus faced with picking these magic numbers based on what has/hasn't worked for previous coins and their own taste (IE intuition).  The market then decides if the architect has good or bad taste in magic numbers (IE fundamental parameters).

The market's decision doesn't happen in a vacuum and depends on if the coin's emission/nomenclature parameters are a good fit for its intended/actual use cases.

Thus for Bitcoin, which is destined to become high-powered super money, a relatively low total emission of 21e6 is perfect.

But for other coins, which naturally fulfill lessor/supporting roles as mere mediums of exchange, a far lower per-unit value is desirable as a way to leverage our visually oriented brains' (and resultant cultures') highly optimized, low cognitive load pathways for subitization and mental calculation.
sr. member
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Tell me please, if I keep Ethereum Classic on the MyEtherWallet wallet with the ETC node, will I get this fork? And when will the accrued?
Can anyone answer the question? Will I receive coins and how can they be seen in my wallet?  Cool
It's same as Ethereum. You need to use the Short name, Contract Address and decimals to import token into your MEW wallet.
Then you'll see your tokens on Ethereum Classic wallet.


But if its on separate blockchain, its not token, its mineable coin?
full member
Activity: 448
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Revolutionising Marketing and Loyalty
Tell me please, if I keep Ethereum Classic on the MyEtherWallet wallet with the ETC node, will I get this fork? And when will the accrued?
Can anyone answer the question? Will I receive coins and how can they be seen in my wallet?  Cool
As was described on https://smartoptions.io/claim-callisto-clo-ethereum-classic-hard-fork/ all wallets with private keys able to get this airdrop. Read and be sure!

Thank you very much for the information! Sorry, I have not found this article before, now I'm sure that I will get these long-awaited coins!
full member
Activity: 574
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Tell me please, if I keep Ethereum Classic on the MyEtherWallet wallet with the ETC node, will I get this fork? And when will the accrued?
Can anyone answer the question? Will I receive coins and how can they be seen in my wallet?  Cool
As was described on https://smartoptions.io/claim-callisto-clo-ethereum-classic-hard-fork/ all wallets with private keys able to get this airdrop. Read and be sure!
hero member
Activity: 647
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The Operating System for DAOs
Tell me please, if I keep Ethereum Classic on the MyEtherWallet wallet with the ETC node, will I get this fork? And when will the accrued?
Can anyone answer the question? Will I receive coins and how can they be seen in my wallet?  Cool
It's same as Ethereum. You need to use the Short name, Contract Address and decimals to import token into your MEW wallet.
Then you'll see your tokens on Ethereum Classic wallet.
full member
Activity: 448
Merit: 106
Revolutionising Marketing and Loyalty
Tell me please, if I keep Ethereum Classic on the MyEtherWallet wallet with the ETC node, will I get this fork? And when will the accrued?
Can anyone answer the question? Will I receive coins and how can they be seen in my wallet?  Cool
jr. member
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This last week should be very exciting for ETC speculation.. Seems ETC has now stopped and found a support near 0.00365 btc.. Let's see if it will break 0.004 but i really think we will hit atleast 0.0045 within this last week.
full member
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Going by Callisto whitepaper, the supply is many billions so is huge so do not have high expectations
from that. Overall merket is also not very helpful currently.
newbie
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I dont see it, I dont believe Callisto is going to rise nor ETC because of the Airdrop....for a few reasons

1.) the market sentiment is changing....
2.) callisto is a development project, and there are no intentions that this will be a Main coin, used for buying anything.
3.) Callisto is being used for development /test new features that if successful will be implemented into ETC
4.) If you search for "Callisto Coin" on Google the search results are very low.  399000
5.) Why would we be excited for something that will be used just for test purposes?


Just my thoughts.
member
Activity: 111
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Can anyone tell me the homepage of Callisto or this hardfork or an official of this project?
This page is true homepage?
https://github.com/EthereumCommonwealth/Roadmap/issues/42
Many thanks!  Wink

kind of .. why its not being taken seriously Sad they really didnt try here
newbie
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Can anyone tell me the homepage of Callisto or this hardfork or an official of this project?
This page is true homepage?
https://github.com/EthereumCommonwealth/Roadmap/issues/42
Many thanks!  Wink
full member
Activity: 602
Merit: 107
Callisto airdrop is getting closer. I think this will pump up the ETC price, might go up to $50!

CoinCodex featured ETC as "Coin to Watch" next week:
https://coincodex.com/article/1337/coins-to-watch-022618-030418/
full member
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Revolutionising Marketing and Loyalty
Tell me please, if I keep Ethereum Classic on the MyEtherWallet wallet with the ETC node, will I get this fork? And when will the accrued?
member
Activity: 111
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i tried to transfer some etherium classic from poloniex  to coinomi wallet to get callisto  but it has been 10 hours and not transfered yet, does it take days?
Usually it's fast and take less then hour, maybe you forget to confirm withdrawal on your email?

Have the same issue
can't withdraw from poloniex

same .. pending since the 23rd .. getting ridiculous and suspicious to boot
sr. member
Activity: 770
Merit: 251
its not a very good timing for an airdrop now
i dont think that it will pump like crazy
but the good side is it may not dump like crazy either Smiley

maybe because ZCL is doing airdrop also in the same time ? but it finish sooner so ppl can flip after on ETC to get double airdrop.. anyway I think ETC has reasons to grow faster than ETH now even without airdrop
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