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July 30, 2021, 04:59:24 AM
#81
People are savage I think since fighting on each other is considered as sports in other countries and yet hate animal cruelty but still they like to see someone fighting each other. It's like an honor for them to fight the strongest man alive and then today it's now an official sports.

I don't know why though, I just don't get it why fighting each other is supposed to be fun when this is a sports and the only ethical about it that I see is they win a bigger prizes if they beat their opponent. Anyway, I think there's a weaver about it if someone wants to participate on this bloody sports then they have to be ready and accept the consequences and I think that's the risk of it. Meaning high risk equals high rewards.

After reading your comment mate it made me realize things like this I mean I used to believe that boxing is a sport which it is legally considered and now slapping tournament been practiced already and this only prove to me that everything has a price the higher the risk you put the higher the chance you may get what you want. I salute all the players that set to be the one stand on the ring, fighting aiming to win to be able to win a high prize while bettors watching and being entertained on what they have seen on the ring.
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July 29, 2021, 06:46:48 PM
#80
People are savage I think since fighting on each other is considered as sports in other countries and yet hate animal cruelty but still they like to see someone fighting each other. It's like an honor for them to fight the strongest man alive and then today it's now an official sports.

I don't know why though, I just don't get it why fighting each other is supposed to be fun when this is a sports and the only ethical about it that I see is they win a bigger prizes if they beat their opponent. Anyway, I think there's a weaver about it if someone wants to participate on this bloody sports then they have to be ready and accept the consequences and I think that's the risk of it. Meaning high risk equals high rewards.
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July 29, 2021, 06:19:56 PM
#79
There's art in boxing, and it brings a deep-rooted mentality of fast brave and strong on us and boxing personifies that, and besides you cannot enter the ring without being fit, it takes months of preparation and years of developing skills before you can fight in the ring, they are not picking random people they are picking who can fight and protect himself in the ring.
This is right.

They won't allow someone to box with other fighters if they're not fit and in the first place, these boxers have been training to prepare themselves the possible physical wave that they will receive through their opponents.

and once inside the ring, they are bind by the rules of this sports. once they violate it, they will suffer the consequences. it is not that they are fighting with each other without rules to comply with. that's why there's ethics here. because they need to abide by the rules established on this kind of sports.

i don't understand what ethical means by the OP but a lot of combat sports are really hurting their opponents, not only in boxing. tell the MMA, kung fu, judo, muay thai, wrestling, or taekwondo people that they are not ethical... Roll Eyes
He's said what he's concerned about.

And you're right that there are other contact sports that have been also giving the pain physically but they're all disciplined. It's what most of these sports are teaching.
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July 29, 2021, 05:39:23 PM
#78
There's art in boxing, and it brings a deep-rooted mentality of fast brave and strong on us and boxing personifies that, and besides you cannot enter the ring without being fit, it takes months of preparation and years of developing skills before you can fight in the ring, they are not picking random people they are picking who can fight and protect himself in the ring.
This is right.

They won't allow someone to box with other fighters if they're not fit and in the first place, these boxers have been training to prepare themselves the possible physical wave that they will receive through their opponents.

and once inside the ring, they are bind by the rules of this sports. once they violate it, they will suffer the consequences. it is not that they are fighting with each other without rules to comply with. that's why there's ethics here. because they need to abide by the rules established on this kind of sports.

i don't understand what ethical means by the OP but a lot of combat sports are really hurting their opponents, not only in boxing. tell the MMA, kung fu, judo, muay thai, wrestling, or taekwondo people that they are not ethical... Roll Eyes
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July 29, 2021, 05:29:45 PM
#77
There's art in boxing, and it brings a deep-rooted mentality of fast brave and strong on us and boxing personifies that, and besides you cannot enter the ring without being fit, it takes months of preparation and years of developing skills before you can fight in the ring, they are not picking random people they are picking who can fight and protect himself in the ring.
This is right.

They won't allow someone to box with other fighters if they're not fit and in the first place, these boxers have been training to prepare themselves the possible physical wave that they will receive through their opponents.
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July 29, 2021, 05:24:28 PM
#76
I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

There's art in boxing, and it brings a deep-rooted mentality of fast brave and strong on us and boxing personifies that, and besides you cannot enter the ring without being fit, it takes months of preparation and years of developing skills before you can fight in the ring, they are not picking random people they are picking who can fight and protect himself in the ring.
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July 29, 2021, 03:51:28 PM
#75
I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?
As if everyone who is boxing or doing any contact sports were forced to do so  Roll Eyes. Some choose a profession which they are comfortable and what is the ethical new world you are talking about. I just want to know about your ethical world where everything that are into martial arts and contact sports are unethical and everyone should be a bunch of pussies and keyboard warriors Cheesy .
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July 29, 2021, 12:33:31 PM
#74
Boxing has a long history as its ancestor was fist fights, the evidence of which goes back hundreds of years. In my opinion, boxing is one of the most spectacular contact sports and it is really a sport compared to slapping competitions.

What about UFC or MMA? even the sport is far more legendary among the ancestors, which started out as a wrestling fight with a much longer history. But do not rule out the sport of boxing.
All have their own history. However, until now betting on boxing is still popular, especially among parents, who while watching they will spend bottles of ibir until the match is over.
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July 29, 2021, 12:27:10 PM
#73
For how many years boxing already in the market? I mean since then boxing are considered as sport and bettors are coming in to watch the game.

Yes, there’s a risk of trauma and dying because of boxing this is why boxer have to be more fit before they fight and they understand the risk of it. It’s hard to question if its more on a gambling, because boxers take this seriously and considered as their true passions, they are happy on that profession.

no boxer fights injured. They must meet several requirements to be able to compete, in addition to being healthy, weight is also a requirement to be able to fight in the ring.
All based on the rules that have been made in order to minimize things that are not wanted to happen during the match. As for the aftermath of injury and some of it has become a risk. Not only in boxing, in football, the injuries are even more severe than in the boxing ring.
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July 29, 2021, 11:31:19 AM
#72
For the pro matches, there's nothing to worry about the physical collateral for each of their matches. With those physical blows that they receive, they've got their own medical team for each of their matches and until they recover if ever the hit is too much and badly affected the boxer. But what is more concerning are the nonpro matches and boxers, the amateur ones. Those reports about sudden death after or during the match are more with those types of matches.
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July 29, 2021, 10:18:57 AM
#71
So it's not totally bad and if there people willing to gamble on this sport at least they are helping those athletes to keep the sport going on and letting them have a career for living.
Totally disagree, it's the other way around. It's the sport that's keeping the gambling industry for boxing alive. Idk if boxers (or any other sport for that matter) receive money from sports betting companies, but even if they did, I'd reckon it's a pretty small part of their total salary.
The sport helps gambling industry and the gambling industry helps the sport. It doesn't need to be necessarily advantegeous only for one side. If there wasn't money involved in boxing sport through gambling I doubt it would have the same importance it currently has. Part of the public doesn't want to be entertained by watching the fights only, they also want to practice their prediction skills to try earning some money.
Gambling without boxing would remain the same, without any decreasement in profit, as gamblers would easily find something else to bet on, however boxing without gambling would indeed suffer some financial losses.
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July 29, 2021, 05:42:26 AM
#70
Its probably as ethical as gambling companies exploiting their users, there's long terms effects for both getting hit in the head, and spiraling into debt because gambling companies want people who are addicted to gambling on their platform spending money. Of course, it is horrible that boxers to sustain injuries long term, and there probably needs to be more done in that regard. However, they do know the risks, and they do sign on the dotted line. The issue is, this is most probably due to a lot of them coming from disadvantaged backgrounds, and trying to change their lives.

Its worth noting though, not every boxer sustains long term effects. So, while it obviously is a concern, and most definitely does happen its not like you are betting for that person to sustain long term injuries. Your betting on them to win the fight, and you do that with all sports, despite the risk of serious injuries. For example, I believe football has now implemented a rule where they can't header the ball in training sessions over a certain amount, depending on the severity of the collision with the ball, because of fears of it contributing to various long term head injuries. So, you could argue that if you bet on a footballing event, its the same as betting on a boxing event. Although, not quite the same because you are betting for boxers to get the KO sometimes. Although, then you could argue that its not the KO that does the damage, but rather the accumulative effect of getting punched in the head.
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July 29, 2021, 05:33:22 AM
#69
For how many years boxing already in the market? I mean since then boxing are considered as sport and bettors are coming in to watch the game.

Yes, there’s a risk of trauma and dying because of boxing this is why boxer have to be more fit before they fight and they understand the risk of it. It’s hard to question if its more on a gambling, because boxers take this seriously and considered as their true passions, they are happy on that profession.
I am trying to do little research about that but I could not find the right answer because maybe that betting on boxing was doing secretly as at that time, the law can caught people who betting on the sports. But we know that boxing has been with us from a long time ago and if boxing as a sports, you can read on this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing

Those boxers know that if they can be the champions, they can become popular and have many fans to become an idol. They can produce a lot of money and maybe they know about the risk of trauma and can get an injury in their bodies. But they will not stop until they can become world champions or people will only remember them as fighters.
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July 29, 2021, 03:56:00 AM
#68
Boxing has a long history as its ancestor was fist fights, the evidence of which goes back hundreds of years. In my opinion, boxing is one of the most spectacular contact sports and it is really a sport compared to slapping competitions.
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July 29, 2021, 12:02:47 AM
#67
I think boxing being ethical or not shouldn't be questioned. As long as a sport is considered legal, then just allow these games to operate whatever the rules, be it physical or not, or something. In basketball, football, soccer, for example, there are also physical fights. If we aren't used to seeing those games then just ignore and don't watch them.

I know the topic was just asked because OP isn't a boxing enthusiast and that is hard to explain for those who don't watch that sports mostly. I should say, that was too deep if we discussed this just like how I questioned other games such so just enjoy betting on your preferred sports. Smiley
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July 29, 2021, 12:01:25 AM
#66
Gambling is a game that hangs between gains and losses gambling is basically a set of amounts or objects that are set as a reward the gambling portal offers gamblers classic and modern types of slot card and table games like poker backgammon blackjack video poker lottery bingo keno. The risk for boxing is high boxing fights are both very damaging and physically they are injured gambling is better than considering sports.
This kinda swerved to a different topic? OP was asking why boxing was ethical as a sport and should we even consider betting into a sport where people beat each other up, and not really about whether which is riskier, gambling or boxing (both have their risks and merits ngl, I really doubt one is better than the other).

So it's not totally bad and if there people willing to gamble on this sport at least they are helping those athletes to keep the sport going on and letting them have a career for living.
Totally disagree, it's the other way around. It's the sport that's keeping the gambling industry for boxing alive. Idk if boxers (or any other sport for that matter) receive money from sports betting companies, but even if they did, I'd reckon it's a pretty small part of their total salary.

I believe they are receiving from PPV which also has a betting platform. It's the same as basketball stars in NBA, the people pay the ticket for entrance, and a percentage of the money is given to the players as far as I know and this is apart from the sponsors. MGM I think also does the same.

Money is part of the profession they choose. Some boxers don't have the choice, poor boxers from Mexico even start at a very early stage of their life as a boxer to get paid per fight.

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July 28, 2021, 11:41:45 PM
#65
Gambling is a game that hangs between gains and losses gambling is basically a set of amounts or objects that are set as a reward the gambling portal offers gamblers classic and modern types of slot card and table games like poker backgammon blackjack video poker lottery bingo keno. The risk for boxing is high boxing fights are both very damaging and physically they are injured gambling is better than considering sports.
This kinda swerved to a different topic? OP was asking why boxing was ethical as a sport and should we even consider betting into a sport where people beat each other up, and not really about whether which is riskier, gambling or boxing (both have their risks and merits ngl, I really doubt one is better than the other).

So it's not totally bad and if there people willing to gamble on this sport at least they are helping those athletes to keep the sport going on and letting them have a career for living.
Totally disagree, it's the other way around. It's the sport that's keeping the gambling industry for boxing alive. Idk if boxers (or any other sport for that matter) receive money from sports betting companies, but even if they did, I'd reckon it's a pretty small part of their total salary.
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July 28, 2021, 10:54:42 PM
#64

Gambling is a game that hangs between gains and losses gambling is basically a set of amounts or objects that are set as a reward the gambling portal offers gamblers classic and modern types of slot card and table games like poker backgammon blackjack video poker lottery bingo keno. The risk for boxing is high boxing fights are both very damaging and physically they are injured gambling is better than considering sports.

Yet we are betting on the fights. There is no point in seeing whether it's ethical or not because it's now bringing honor to countries from which the boxers are from. Look at the Olympic games is mostly where countries are spending much for their athletes. Boxing is where we are so excited because naturally, people want to prove who are better physically. Latin Americans want to dominate this sport but obviously, there are more races out there that can also box.
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July 28, 2021, 10:26:19 PM
#63
Gambling is a game that hangs between gains and losses gambling is basically a set of amounts or objects that are set as a reward the gambling portal offers gamblers classic and modern types of slot card and table games like poker backgammon blackjack video poker lottery bingo keno. The risk for boxing is high boxing fights are both very damaging and physically they are injured gambling is better than considering sports.
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July 28, 2021, 06:58:53 PM
#62
For how many years boxing already in the market? I mean since then boxing are considered as sport and bettors are coming in to watch the game.

Yes, there’s a risk of trauma and dying because of boxing this is why boxer have to be more fit before they fight and they understand the risk of it. It’s hard to question if its more on a gambling, because boxers take this seriously and considered as their true passions, they are happy on that profession.
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