Topic: Europa League/Champions League Lounge - page 80. (Read 451583 times)

Everyone would expect to see arsenal and atletico Madrid at the Europa league final, it's the most ideal final isn't it? Considering arsenal have a deadly strikers like lacazette and aubameyang , they should win something. League table of English premier league shows how struggle they are in the league, Europa league would be the priority.

Manchester City has indeed found its best performance since it was handled by Pep last season. However, the glorious Manchester City in the Premier League has not been proven because in UCL match they still have not met with strong teams from La Liga, Serie A, Bundes Liga, and others. I admit that Manchester City is a strong and wealthy team that is currently in the Premier League but I'm not sure if Pep's side can easily defeat strong teams from other leagues.

I agree many football fans around the world thought PeP would fail in England as his former team FC Barcelona was a team that was already a good team and his work was not seen but now that his found his magic touch City is now a world class team and given another coach to take over I think results wouldn't be any good.And todays football if you not willing to spend don't expect good results.

in his first season he didn't get a lot to achieve he spent a lot unlike Conte whom only bought Kante Marcos Alonso and Luiz for less then 100M Euros and transfer a broken team to a champion in a year but this season he made a lott of mistakes While Guardiola continued his spending spree with other teams still struggling to build the teams they need he went for a record winning spree mostly with luck because Many of those games were won in the last couple minutes with the help of Sterling that what made difference this season for him. And for Arsenal  there is two reasons of them failing other then not spending they are still attached with Wenger as manager secondly they are not trying to keep their talents in the team instead they are selling to rivals look at Tottenham they are not spending much but in the last couple years they always showed good performance and finishing in good places.

^ Untrue.  Sure he spends a great amount of money on players, but let other managers coach that City squad, I bet they wouldn't get the same results.

And what do you expect from a club that wants to make history...?  Of course they'll spend a lot.  I mean look what happened at Arsenal the last few years.  They refused to spend...  It's bye bye CL football.  Lol.

It's really amazing and even when he was manager of Barcelona and had the likes of Messi, Iniesta and Xavi he continued to spend a lot of money at Barcelona and did the same at Bayern Munich who already had a Champions League winning team already.

Guardiola is indeed a chequebook manager, I’d like to see him at a club wher he doesn’t have a seemingly limitless budhet.

Nope...  That argument is too simplistic, and it's trying to avoid the finer things of how Pep's football philosophy has helped propel Man City to the top.  Put a different manager on that same team and I don't think they'll achieve the same results.

Here's a good video breaking down Pep and his success this year.  

How Pep Guardiola Hacked The Premier League
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VrxAbv416c

I can't say that Guardiola succeeded with Manchester City because in the UCL match they have not met with other strong teams like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Juventus, and others. If Guardiola and Manchester City can beat all the club then I can say that Guardiola is the most successful manager in the world of football.

Guardiola's triumph at Manchester City is going to be entirely about spending money and he has indeed outspent all the European clubs since he became the manager at the Etihad stadium and that is the only reason why i deem him to be successful.

The 'only' coach?  Don't think so...  I'm sure there are others out there besides Pep who could win them the CL like Zidane, Mou, Enrique and also prolly Simeone plus a couple others.  Given the amount they're willing to spend on players.

In Unai Emery's case, he realized a hard truth that the CL is a big jump from the Europa League.

I hope city could be the champion in champions leagues in order to get 2 the degree of premiere leagues and champions leagues, because by doing so city will be the club bastards in between the club in europe, to see the performance of city now I’m sure that the city could be the champion in both the competition

Your reasoning is very good. However I see Atletico Madrid as strong favorites, they have this winning mentality at the moment and Cholo Simeone is simply a better coach that Arsene at the moment. If it comes to that game Arsenal vs. Atletico it would be a great game but I see Simeone outperforming Wenger in every way. I don't understand what is wrong with Wenger, it's like he is not following the latest standards of the game anymore.......


..... unlike Guardiola who is doing exactly the opposite. None of the things he brought into his teams weren't his invention, but he rather has this hybrid approach of learning everything he can from more experienced coaches. I still don't like him as a coach though. He went to win it all with Barcelona, but I think I could do it with that team..... After that he took over Bayern and destroyed 10 years of their previous work. He finally went to Manchester City.... and I see your point right there he seems very capable in managing teams that have this all-about-money approach. Since PSG and Manchester City are similar when it comes to that -yes I totally agree, I only don't agree that he is the only one. There are much better coaches out there, for me Guardiola has yet to manage a smaller team and show what he can really do when the budget is tight.

Real Madrid seems to be another team in Europe.

They may have given up the league to prepare for Europe!

Ronaldo is still at such a high level at this age, and neymar may have to review himself, what he has brought to Paris!

Napoli this year has decided to use all its energies in Serie A to try to win it.
Napoli had already decided to leave the Europa League and in fact used so many substitutes snubbing this competition.
If the Napoli wants to become a top team also in Europe must improve its mentality by playing all the games to the maximum of its possibilities and always trying to win.

I was really surprised to see the results of the match between Napoli and Leipzig. how can Napoli now become the top standings while Serie A get defeat from Leipzig which I think the quality of his players is under Napoli. But, this is any football can happen in the field. With the result, I have to be willing to get a loss for having bet on Napoli's victory.

Arsenal had a good win despite the weather, but the team he was playing had already come to a good place. How could Napoli be defeated in my own home in Leipzig did not make sense.

Real Madrid has the mentality and the DNA to always be the protagonist and among the favorites in the champion's league even in seasons that seem negative.
On the contrary, the PSG, despite the money invested, does not have these characteristics.
the only coach who can allow the PSG to win the champion's league is Guardiola

from what it looks is that Real Madrid still a winner team especialy in Champiosnleague they were crappy again as they are always but i don't know how is it going real madrid keep going and win many times in CL trophy it will interesting if they can repeat what they done the season were they sacked Benitez PSG looks to be unluky against Spanish teams I think they are gonna need to fire Unai Emery he have proven that he is not the guy for top elite teams in Europe he must hired by teams like dortmund, arsenal at best even those teams can be pressured to work with as they sometimes asks for results but they are Known to be patient so PSG really needs a far better manager.

Didnt played anything just watched several games and must say that PSG is having bad luck with Spanish teams. Maybe biggest surprise from all games in both CL and EL is match Red Star Belgrade and CSK Moscow they played draw and both team went for goal but without one in game. Must say that English clubs Liverpool and MNC are in next round for 100%.