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Topic: eUtopium [UPM] ∞ Social Enterprise of Mystery: Truth, Knowledge, Education. - page 7. (Read 62596 times)

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hrt
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i will never understand why some people feel the need to selldown an entire stock value when they can sell small amounts at the top and hold long enough to force buyers to pay a higher price. it is indeed a selfish trading strategy and of course caused by lower intelligence and mentalities. such strategy is obviously not smart, but happens in all cryptocoins.

such strategy is always economic in cryptos. dealing with shit means to fit the shit. cryptoshit getting manyfold every day. cryptos are not a stock and never were.
sr. member
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member
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it is unfortunate what has happened to the stock value.. for now anyways. but not unexpected. the suddenly increased hashpower which near tripled the mining difficulty was obviously for me linked to greedy individuals seeking to cashout at a profit most likely after renting loads of hashpower. im still mining this coin. we'll see where it goes over the next couple weeks. i will never understand why some people feel the need to selldown an entire stock value when they can sell small amounts at the top and hold long enough to force buyers to pay a higher price. it is indeed a selfish trading strategy and of course caused by lower intelligence and mentalities. such strategy is obviously not smart, but happens in all cryptocoins.

as the user mentioned above.. utopia is denied to us by the low mentality that still exists in many. some people want a better world for everyone. some only care about themselves. these are the ones that hold back all progress towards better. this is why human behaviour has been forcibly guided by strict rules and laws of various communities/societies. an attempt to protect the weak or less fortunate, but which currently only barely can be considered to be working.

as long as you stay with us dev i will support your coin and your message. the structure isnt bad at all and i advise investors to be patient with this stock. mine it and hold it off the market.. and then set sell prices at .1btc and over and you will have your profit. the force of regret is the one that hurts the greedy the most. we must push this stock beyond their cashout point by a significantly high margin. this will reward dedicated miners and investors.

+1
hrt
sr. member
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"eUtopium (UPM) is an ongoing project in Collaboration
with the ESHCC of Erasmus University Rotterdam"


http://www.eshcc.eur.nl/zoeken/?q=eUtopium&site=default_collection&btnG=Search

Nothing
Nada

Bullshit


I also called them they didnt know shit about eutopium

SCAM

This requires further investigation from the community... Anyone else in Holland to cross-confirm this project at ESHCC of Erasmus University Rotterdam?

No, just feel the university dust. Nothing is you. My parts are flying. Utopia trusted in long-landing cognition. Humbleness fits music matches a spirit. Whatever inexpugnable the wall it always the gate.
sr. member
Activity: 416
Merit: 250
"eUtopium (UPM) is an ongoing project in Collaboration
with the ESHCC of Erasmus University Rotterdam"


http://www.eshcc.eur.nl/zoeken/?q=eUtopium&site=default_collection&btnG=Search

Nothing
Nada

Bullshit


I also called them they didnt know shit about eutopium

SCAM


This requires further investigation from the community... Anyone else in Holland to cross-confirm this project at ESHCC of Erasmus University Rotterdam?

@onemanatatime listed in the ann post is a student at that University...
hero member
Activity: 658
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it is unfortunate what has happened to the stock value.. for now anyways. but not unexpected. the suddenly increased hashpower which near tripled the mining difficulty was obviously for me linked to greedy individuals seeking to cashout at a profit most likely after renting loads of hashpower. im still mining this coin. we'll see where it goes over the next couple weeks. i will never understand why some people feel the need to selldown an entire stock value when they can sell small amounts at the top and hold long enough to force buyers to pay a higher price. it is indeed a selfish trading strategy and of course caused by lower intelligence and mentalities. such strategy is obviously not smart, but happens in all cryptocoins.

as the user mentioned above.. utopia is denied to us by the low mentality that still exists in many. some people want a better world for everyone. some only care about themselves. these are the ones that hold back all progress towards better. this is why human behaviour has been forcibly guided by strict rules and laws of various communities/societies. an attempt to protect the weak or less fortunate, but which currently only barely can be considered to be working.

as long as you stay with us dev i will support your coin and your message. the structure isnt bad at all and i advise investors to be patient with this stock. mine it and hold it off the market.. and then set sell prices at .1btc and over and you will have your profit. the force of regret is the one that hurts the greedy the most. we must push this stock beyond their cashout point by a significantly high margin. this will reward dedicated miners and investors.
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
For by grace are ye saved, through faith..
"eUtopium (UPM) is an ongoing project in Collaboration
with the ESHCC of Erasmus University Rotterdam"


http://www.eshcc.eur.nl/zoeken/?q=eUtopium&site=default_collection&btnG=Search

Nothing
Nada

Bullshit


I also called them they didnt know shit about eutopium

SCAM

This requires further investigation from the community... Anyone else in Holland to cross-confirm this project at ESHCC of Erasmus University Rotterdam?
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
For by grace are ye saved, through faith..
It could be social experiment or some psychological study but if you wanted to know answer for this question.

What will happen with this coin and his community, investors, supporters if I wrote something like this:
Just from this page.
Quote
adamandeve said:
perception, and spirituality, are not the same as religion.
we are humans, who live on earth, a tiny planet in a vast universe.
i am a child, but i am not childish.
poison meaning (google):...
trust meaning (google):...
community meaning (google):...

Then answer to your study is: Everyone will leave and no one will invest. Those statements amongst others you said force everyone out. All of those who joined crypto world are not stupid, they proved that by joining here before rest of the world. You just don't understand where you got wrong with this, don't you ?


i know very little,
but i understand,
and i see.
where i went wrong,
what you see in me,
is that i am being me.
but whats right,
or whats wrong,
thats for thee to see.
not you or me,
because all is perception,
only your reality.
so please leave the eden party,
if you do not see,
or agree with me.
you were never invited,
yet you chose yourself to be.
the true party,
you have yet to see.
so please dont come back to me,
when youre looking only to make more money.
utopia is here and can already be,
even better without you for we can now have some harmony.
whether you see or dont see,
is not a matter for me.
but what does matter to me,
is that you finally see what matters most to you, not me.
i could go on for eternity,
but what would the point be?
live your life as you deem you should be,
but dont blame me when you made your own misery.
choose money or choose to be happy,
i dont know, thats a tough one, you tell me.
money and misery,
you still dont see?
for with money,
there'll only be misery.
so choose,
and choose wisely.
for there may never be,
again a day where you'll be free.

Poetically and spiritually, that was a nice reply... however, playing the idea that "money is inherently evil and that you cannot have both money and happiness simultaneously" is something I won't let slide by.

Wealth (generally) comes to those most deserving of it, by their works (lead by their faith). Saying that someone who buys $UPM or any other coin is acting out of greed and/or leading to their own misery is a misnomer. In this world that we experience life in (IRL) we are engulfed by legal commerce, therefore access to the bountiful joys of life come with a price tag. Sure you can grow your own food and build your own house and your own car and so on... but who cares to put in the effort, time and sacrifice? In our society we have a means to leverage our labour for bountiful joys of life; another form of sacrifice - money (sweat-equity). And with that means of leverage comes the ability to ethically and legitimately accrue valuable currency (stocks/forex/futures/fiat/bitcoin/etc) for purposes which we see fit (philanthropic, or hedonistic, or whatever you want).
I stray from my original point...and that is that any man/woman can, if following certain laws that regulate our world, become wealthy beyond imagination. Some do. Most do not.

For anyone interested in learning the principles that can lead one to wealth (without sacrificing true, immaterial happiness) read the book by George S. Clason, "The Richest Man in Babylon". I am on my third read through it and although I'm not super rich yet I am taking the measures required of me to get me from where I am today to where I see myself tomorrow.

We can all be wealthy... we just have to change our internal game (values, checks, behaviors, habits) before we see it reflect in the illusion of reality.
legendary
Activity: 1946
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"eUtopium (UPM) is an ongoing project in Collaboration
with the ESHCC of Erasmus University Rotterdam"


http://www.eshcc.eur.nl/zoeken/?q=eUtopium&site=default_collection&btnG=Search

Nothing
Nada

Bullshit


I also called them they didnt know shit about eutopium

SCAM
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
@AltcoinAdam
It could be social experiment or some psychological study but if you wanted to know answer for this question.

What will happen with this coin and his community, investors, supporters if I wrote something like this:
Just from this page.
Quote
adamandeve said:
perception, and spirituality, are not the same as religion.
we are humans, who live on earth, a tiny planet in a vast universe.
i am a child, but i am not childish.
poison meaning (google):...
trust meaning (google):...
community meaning (google):...

Then answer to your study is: Everyone will leave and no one will invest. Those statements amongst others you said force everyone out. All of those who joined crypto world are not stupid, they proved that by joining here before rest of the world. You just don't understand where you got wrong with this, don't you ?


i know very little,
but i understand,
and i see.
where i went wrong,
what you see in me,
is that i am being me.
but whats right,
or whats wrong,
thats for thee to see.
not you or me,
because all is perception,
only your reality.
so please leave the eden party,
if you do not see,
or agree with me.
you were never invited,
yet you chose yourself to be.
the true party,
you have yet to see.
so please dont come back to me,
when youre looking only to make more money.
utopia is here and can already be,
even better without you for we can now have some harmony.
whether you see or dont see,
is not a matter for me.
but what does matter to me,
is that you finally see what matters most to you, not me.
i could go on for eternity,
but what would the point be?
live your life as you deem you should be,
but dont blame me when you made your own misery.
choose money or choose to be happy,
i dont know, thats a tough one, you tell me.
money and misery,
you still dont see?
for with money,
there'll only be misery.
so choose,
and choose wisely.
for there may never be,
again a day where you'll be free.
hero member
Activity: 561
Merit: 500
kittehcoin.info
It could be social experiment or some psychological study but if you wanted to know answer for this question.

What will happen with this coin and his community, investors, supporters if I wrote something like this:
Just from this page.
Quote
adamandeve said:
perception, and spirituality, are not the same as religion.
we are humans, who live on earth, a tiny planet in a vast universe.
i am a child, but i am not childish.
poison meaning (google):...
trust meaning (google):...
community meaning (google):...

Then answer to your study is: Everyone will leave and no one will invest. Those statements amongst others you said force everyone out. All of those who joined crypto world are not stupid, they proved that by joining here before rest of the world. You just don't understand where you got wrong with this, don't you ?
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
@AltcoinAdam
I wasn't talking about the money or my loses I was talking that your way of communication or lack of it forced me out.
Just read twice those words you wrote and tell me would you invest anything after reading it.
If it wasn't you talking everything will be just fine.

i have to be talking; or this project won't work. it is a social experiment, in and of itself.
hero member
Activity: 561
Merit: 500
kittehcoin.info
I wasn't talking about the money or my loses I was talking that your way of communication or lack of it forced me out.
Just read twice those words you wrote and tell me would you invest anything after reading it.
If it wasn't you talking everything will be just fine.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
@AltcoinAdam
would love to make all investors happy. unfortunately, i cannot control when and at what price you click the buy or sell button. money is the √evil, can't you see?
hero member
Activity: 978
Merit: 506
1 - Some child create a coin
2-  He  creates a bunch of lies to lure investors (about funds education and university)IF YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE NAIVE
3- He puts a coin in some exchange creating fake buy support, he pump and  they dump his pre-mine
4- PROFIT

The only thing we can do now is sell this shit and dump to hell to take down all of the remaining players

now we have 2 options

option 1 you can keep some of your BTC selling when we still have some offer for this shit
(i already did that from my 0.06 i recover 0.025)

option 2 you can keep your UPM and wait for some pump of hte comunity....oh i just forget UPM already lost all trust of the comunity!

Dev is clearly poisoned with new age gibberish and he is pushing this deceiving agenda (or doctrine or philosophy or humanistic religion or whatever you want to call it) through this coin.

If a blind man leads blind man, they both will fall into a pit. Coin only looks promising, but it is a deceit behind it. Be ware.



here are some facts:
1. the crowdfunding phase collected 19+ btc, closed at a price of about 0.00009802 BTC/UPM
2. the price is now 0.00017-20 BTC/UPM, almost 2 fold increase from crowdfund price.
3. perception, and spirituality, are not the same as religion.
4. we are humans, who live on earth, a tiny planet in a vast universe.
5. i am a child, but i am not childish.
6. poison meaning (google): a substance that is capable of causing the illness or death of a living organism when introduced or absorbed.
7. trust meaning (google): firm belief in the reliability, truth, or ability of someone or something.
8. community meaning (google): a group of people living in the same place or having a particular characteristic in common.
9. you both lost money.


please, enlighten me.

Dev,  I sent you PM, a subject on this matter, please check ASAP, we do not want to be off topic.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
yeah iam sorry u also lost some on this, but iam not here to win arguement i just said what was needed to say, and this continues.

when a dev takes 19 btc from investors its his responsibility to make sure that all the investors are happy, ALL not just ipo buyer

dev posted several times that the ipo was  9k and everything above he is safe, thats not how this works u need to think about thoose guys that bought at 40k also not just making sure ipo are safe.

if he just didnt post anything yesterday about humanaity solidarity to be or not to be we are small in this galaxy and nonsens like that, we had been in 100k now.

instead this coin is DEAD.

a coin without investor is not a coin, its worthless and just an ide.

Last time i visit this thread.
Over and out.
hero member
Activity: 561
Merit: 500
kittehcoin.info
I need to take back everything I said nice about this coin.
Just dumped, loss on my side about 0.2 BTC so not too much.

Why I got out?
1. Because dev continue to argue with few people here making some strange statements.
2. Coin don't have any kind of support in Rotterdam university(mailed them, maybe you should so the same)
3. Lot of things are strange here regarding terms of whitepapers we should send, we are not playing games here we are investing
4. I wanted to send dev PM to just stop talking here for some time because each time he wrote something I was losing more and more interest into future investing

Dev, I supported you, but let's be honest, no one will invest into this coin if he starts reading this topic and your answers to the followers. Just for silence from your side we could have next URO in matter of hours.

@silverduck you was right and I was wrong, I m sorry and I admit that!


newbie
Activity: 10
Merit: 0
What's the donation address, I can't see it in the ANN.
legendary
Activity: 1198
Merit: 1000
adamandeve can you add my pool to the pool list (forum and website) ?

http://upm.theblocksfactory.com/

Thanks
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