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Topic: EveryDice.com | 0.99% Edge - Instant Cashout - Invest - Referral - Mobile - Fair - page 15. (Read 72089 times)

legendary
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CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com
By these, I am not saying my site is better than JD or PD. In fact, I still feel JD is the best for professional dice players, just want to point out the differences.

Right, and all I'm saying is that if you or I "turn evil", we can still run off with player funds.  Being player-vs-player doesn't change that.

Exactly what i said. Any owner can turn evil and run with all the coins , and there is nothing we can do about it. Since nobody of u guys give any personal info to anybody.

So we can only hope there are some legit sites (that know they will earn more being legit than scammers) , but still there is no way we know what sites are 100% legit and will stay that way and what are not.

There is always a risk , we just need to be aware of it , and be prepared for losing ours money . So again that bring us back to the biggest point of all, "Bet/deposit only what u can afford to lose!"
legendary
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Is the site gonna be back soon? What happened to the investors coins?

We don't know, but to be honest, the situation doesn't look at all...

Honestly speaking, I feel it's really not ED's intention to run away.

They most likely know they can be very profitable in the long run, but bad luck came to the House. If they don't run and pay out 1DiCe1, they risk losing all their investors' faith.

Why at CrowdDice.com this won't happen?

Because unlike investors, game creators know they're playing dice games, not something like a mutual fund investment, and will understand a dice game could cost their wager.

Also unlike investors, game creators has the control over how their game is constructed, say a creator with 1 btc can choose to create 1 game of 1 btc, or he/she can creator 100 games of 0.01 btc each or even 1000 games of 0.001 btc each. I think in 1DiCe1's situation, the creator with 1000 games of 0.001 btc each will not feel a thing, and the creator with 1 btc will know he/she lost a dice game, and that is it.

That means game creators will have full knowledge that how his/her portfolio is managed. So in some sense, game creator is like Investor V2.0, supplying the fund, knowing their risks, and able to manage the risks.

As long as creators and players are happy, a dice site lives, and admin like me stay in business. And the longer I stay in business, the more money I make. Knowing there's a very stable long-term profitability reduce my urge to run in the short-term

By these, I am not saying my site is better than JD or PD. In fact, I still feel JD is the best for professional dice players, just want to point out the differences.






It doesn't look good because ED is not even making the effort to post a message everyday or every two days

People run away with the money on non Bitcoin companies as well
hero member
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Is the site gonna be back soon? What happened to the investors coins?

We don't know, but to be honest, the situation doesn't look good at all...
legendary
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Merit: 1000
In holiday we trust
Is the site gonna be back soon? What happened to the investors coins?
hero member
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OP (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/everydice-227245) logged in his account yesterday, but he don't even care to make an update here with a make-up story
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
By these, I am not saying my site is better than JD or PD. In fact, I still feel JD is the best for professional dice players, just want to point out the differences.

Right, and all I'm saying is that if you or I "turn evil", we can still run off with player funds.  Being player-vs-player doesn't change that.
member
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Honestly speaking, I feel it's really not ED's intention to run away.

They most likely know they can be very profitable in the long run, but bad luck came to the House. If they don't run and pay out 1DiCe1, they risk losing all their investors' faith.

Why at CrowdDice.com this won't happen?

Because unlike investors, game creators know they're playing dice games, not something like a mutual fund investment, and will understand a dice game could cost their wager.

Also unlike investors, game creators has the control over how their game is constructed, say a creator with 1 btc can choose to create 1 game of 1 btc, or he/she can creator 100 games of 0.01 btc each or even 1000 games of 0.001 btc each. I think in 1DiCe1's situation, the creator with 1000 games of 0.001 btc each will not feel a thing, and the creator with 1 btc will know he/she lost a dice game, and that is it.

That means game creators will have full knowledge that how his/her portfolio is managed. So in some sense, game creator is like Investor V2.0, supplying the fund, knowing their risks, and able to manage the risks.

As long as creators and players are happy, a dice site lives, and admin like me stay in business. And the longer I stay in business, the more money I make. Knowing there's a very stable long-term profitability reduce my urge to run in the short-term

By these, I am not saying my site is better than JD or PD. In fact, I still feel JD is the best for professional dice players, just want to point out the differences.




hero member
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i took everydice off my site. it was hard cuz i like ed and was rooting for his website to do well.



live and let learn
member
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with CrowdDice.com there would never be such a problem, you'll never play against the house, but against other players

bad luck for 1DiCe1 and investors

Same at ED.  You weren't playing against the site, you were playing against the investors.  The site made a profit from every bet, just like you do on your site.

It's much the same.  You could decide to run off with player funds at any time, since you hold them which the bets are pending.

Glad to see you commented on my post, dooglus.  I see you as one of the most trust-worthy members in this forum.

I really like your site, Just-Dice. It has way more payout & profit levels than my site, so it's currently the best for professional dice players. And not a direct competition of my site. As my site is more intended for casual players, such as a small simple dice game between community friends.

However, there're a few differences I'd like to clarify between "Investor" on ED or JD and game creators on my site

1. Unlike investor, game creators are players themselves, so has the potential to instantly double his/her wager ( or lose it if bad luck )

2. Unlike investor, profits of Game creators is not proportional how much they put in my site, it's about turn-arounds, Ideally, game creators can deposit only enough fund to create one game, and re-create the game as soon as it's played by a player.  So game creators don't really need to put in a lot of fund at once.

3. Unlike investor, Game creator has control over how their game is visible to the players, through our creator link system, he/she can advertise his/her games and increase the rate it's played.

Of course I may get something wrong, dooglus please feel free to correct me

 Grin
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1037
CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com
The most established member commenting in this thread recently are dooglus and Stunna lol Tongue.

I agree that the owner of Ed may have been watching this thread all the time, and is laughing with all the bitcoin in his wallet. Sad

Oh, that would be a good conspiracy theory!

dooglus set up ED and made it fail to show people that you should only trust established sites like JD!

Only problem is that ED was too well designed to be a dooglus site.  Smiley

hahah... Very true , very true. Who knows maybe stunna and dooglus are the same person , who know we can be anything and anybody on the internet Smiley .
hero member
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or stunna is using this to roll out PD3 and PD4



if i was sato-dice i would be looking over my shoulder Grin
legendary
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The Best Tipster on the Forum!!
The most established member commenting in this thread recently are dooglus and Stunna lol Tongue.

I agree that the owner of Ed may have been watching this thread all the time, and is laughing with all the bitcoin in his wallet. Sad

Oh, that would be a good conspiracy theory!

dooglus set up ED and made it fail to show people that you should only trust established sites like JD!

Only problem is that ED was too well designed to be a dooglus site.  Smiley

lol you have a point there haha

but i loved EDs design very very much Smiley
hero member
Activity: 612
Merit: 500
The most established member commenting in this thread recently are dooglus and Stunna lol Tongue.

I agree that the owner of Ed may have been watching this thread all the time, and is laughing with all the bitcoin in his wallet. Sad

Oh, that would be a good conspiracy theory!

dooglus set up ED and made it fail to show people that you should only trust established sites like JD!

Only problem is that ED was too well designed to be a dooglus site.  Smiley

See, I told you it is possible Ed have been watching the thread closely lol.
Of course, I am just joking with you doog. Tongue
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
The most established member commenting in this thread recently are dooglus and Stunna lol Tongue.

I agree that the owner of Ed may have been watching this thread all the time, and is laughing with all the bitcoin in his wallet. Sad

Oh, that would be a good conspiracy theory!

dooglus set up ED and made it fail to show people that you should only trust established sites like JD!

Only problem is that ED was too well designed to be a dooglus site.  Smiley
hero member
Activity: 612
Merit: 500
In case someone didn't know, there is a new updated message on the site.

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28 May 2014

As an operator of the site, again I'm really sorry for the inconvenience and delayed investigation. Cold wallets are currently under control of our major investor (as you can see our bankroll grows in substansial amount in the second day of launch). The major investor will be able to release the coin only after investigation is confirmed and finished.

Why would they give control of their wallets to an investor?

Its really more suspicious. why they gave their cold wallet to investor. are they buying time or what.
as I told you all before the investors could have been part of the scam, when a con men works he dont work alone but with others, and some of the conmen could be in this very room but without proof people are just gonna back them up. They guy could be an established btc member and you wont even know it cause he was with a shill account all this time

The most established member commenting in this thread recently are dooglus and Stunna lol Tongue.

I agree that the owner of Ed may have been watching this thread all the time, and is laughing with all the bitcoin in his wallet. Sad
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
In case someone didn't know, there is a new updated message on the site.

Quote
28 May 2014

As an operator of the site, again I'm really sorry for the inconvenience and delayed investigation. Cold wallets are currently under control of our major investor (as you can see our bankroll grows in substansial amount in the second day of launch). The major investor will be able to release the coin only after investigation is confirmed and finished.

Why would they give control of their wallets to an investor?

Its really more suspicious. why they gave their cold wallet to investor. are they buying time or what.
as I told you all before the investors could have been part of the scam, when a con men works he dont work alone but with others, and some of the conmen could be in this very room but without proof people are just gonna back them up. They guy could be an established btc member and you wont even know it cause he was with a shill account all this time
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
people at my thread said i should take everydice off the ranking




hes at #40


www.cryptobettingindex.com





ed hasnt respond here?

feedback please

Out.
hero member
Activity: 868
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people at my thread said i should take everydice off the ranking




hes at #40


www.cryptobettingindex.com





ed hasnt respond here?

feedback please
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1037
CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com
I thought you did sold your winnings for a discount which would have been a smart thing to do if you could get a deal; you didn't sold anything?
doog talks about an offer so you may not have sold Sad

From what I saw:

Ruru offered to buy his balance at a huge discount, planning to sell it back to ED at a profit.  1dice1 didn't accept the offer.

Ruru is probably somebody involved with ed Smiley lol. And i think its smart decision 1dice1 even thou u probably wont see that coins again.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1037
CEO @ Stake.com and Primedice.com
with CrowdDice.com there would never be such a problem, you'll never play against the house, but against other players

bad luck for 1DiCe1 and investors

Same at ED.  You weren't playing against the site, you were playing against the investors.  The site made a profit from every bet, just like you do on your site.

It's much the same.  You could decide to run off with player funds at any time, since you hold them which the bets are pending.

It is , and will always be that way. Owners dont give any info on them , and run anonymous, so every one of them can eventualy decide to run with thevmoney, and dont have any problems. Thatvis just nature of bitcoin, u can accept it, and love it, or look elsewhere. As long as there is no laws about bitcoin gambling and casinos, we can only rely on trust.
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