Everyone looses in the long run - page 12.

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Quote from: shulio on February 07, 2017, 11:04:36 AM

Quote from: bitllionaire on February 07, 2017, 10:16:46 AM

in fact entertainment is not the main reason for playing gambling. most of the people play gambling for making money and only then they can entertain gambling other wise they will feel gambling as boring game of the world. i think if some one want to get entertainment so there are so many other types of activity from where one can get more fun and enjoyment as compare to gambling.

Some people feel different about it, they want to get entertainment form it and also making money at the same time. This is a good way of doing two things in the same time, some people get lucky of course and win so we cant really blame them for what they are doing as long as they feel cool about losing money in gambling

That is not entirely true, from the way I see it all the people who gamble once always come back for more if they win, and we can say that each time they win they push their luck and get greedy and lose all the money they have and they started with, so if you see it gambling is not profitable for these people

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If the house edge has the advantage against us then we should take an advantage too while playing gamble games which is saving, so whenever we are losing we can say it totally not. If you feel that you have already made a profit, stop for a while and continue tomorrow.

If you have control to yourself you can stop if you already win but for addicted gamblers its hard to resist playing. i cant count my losses but good thing is i know when to stop and my limitation when playing.

I think it's better not to count our loses so we will not be frustrated, let us just think that what we lose is just the amount we need to spend in gambling. Gambling is very entertaining so we have to pay for the experience. Winning is just a bonus, we just have to be thankful when we win as it does not happen all the time.

but some time the experience become too much expensive and even one lose all his assets and properties. some time this entertainment ruins the life of people. therefore i will like to say that those people who play gambling only for entertainment they should try to find other ways of entertainment.

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Quote from: tommorisonwebdesign on October 03, 2015, 03:32:01 PM

Let's be honest. Gambling should only be considered for entertainment purposes only. If you are in need of quick cash, doing hard dirty work is more often than not better than hitting up the casino sites. I see way too many people in this section try to justify their gambling habits by saying they have strategies to always win. Others on this forum will go as far as to say that they are professional gamblers, and they always win. You're fooling no one and you look stupid.

All the gambling addicts I knew in real life who claimed to win from casinos all the time had serious mental issues. I went gambling with that guy once, and he ended up blaming me for him loosing at Pai Gow poker, a game that's 100% chance.

And just to let you guys know, ALL the casinos in my jurisdiction say the same things in public advertising campaigns. So far, my sig campaign manager has not PM'ed me telling me to quit bashing gambling. Nobody wins gambling, so lets stop pretending anyone here makes a living gambling online.

Try not to be that negative and you might make some correct decision when you bet. It takes a little bit of skill and patience to have a successful book.

Watch gamblers that are on tv channels like ESPN and focus on their tells. It is all a game, you win more money while you have a stable mindset.

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Quote from: tommorisonwebdesign on October 03, 2015, 03:32:01 PM

Let's be honest. Gambling should only be considered for entertainment purposes only. If you are in need of quick cash, doing hard dirty work is more often than not better than hitting up the casino sites. I see way too many people in this section try to justify their gambling habits by saying they have strategies to always win. Others on this forum will go as far as to say that they are professional gamblers, and they always win. You're fooling no one and you look stupid.

All the gambling addicts I knew in real life who claimed to win from casinos all the time had serious mental issues. I went gambling with that guy once, and he ended up blaming me for him loosing at Pai Gow poker, a game that's 100% chance.

And just to let you guys know, ALL the casinos in my jurisdiction say the same things in public advertising campaigns. So far, my sig campaign manager has not PM'ed me telling me to quit bashing gambling. Nobody wins gambling, so lets stop pretending anyone here makes a living gambling online.

The way you asked in this statement of yours, it shows that many of the gamblers in our time now are engaging themselves in the gambling site for thinking they can make a quick money if they do gamble to find their luck of fortune. or the mentality of the gambler was "WHAT IF I WIN" this must be the reason by putting this in their mindset without noticing that there are losing too much.

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Quote from: gabmen on February 08, 2017, 08:17:56 AM

Quote from: Text on February 08, 2017, 07:41:28 AM

Quote from: lienfaye on February 08, 2017, 07:11:34 AM

If you have control to yourself you can stop if you already win but for addicted gamblers its hard to resist playing. i cant count my losses but good thing is i know when to stop and my limitation when playing.

Maybe addicted gamblers didn't realize even they are always in losing side because all they think is to play and win. Meaning to say they don't know how to discipline themselves because it always start from their own. Some of them has a good source of money so they can gamble every time they wanted either win or lose.

Yeah i think their mentality towards this is that iy doesn't matter if they lose becausr eventually they'd win and earn everything back. An addicted gambler wouldn't think about the amount they lost already as long as they win a couple of times and i think this boosts their addiction more, which is the reason why irresponsible gambling is very dangerous

That's always their mindset. If you are an addict, better evaluate yourself and think if you are addicted. There are many factors concerning that you are an addict. Every addiction has the same core principles, and there are things that unique about each of them either Greediness, Malice, etc. Better look at yourself if you are an addict or not.

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Quote from: Text on February 08, 2017, 07:41:28 AM

Quote from: lienfaye on February 08, 2017, 07:11:34 AM

If you have control to yourself you can stop if you already win but for addicted gamblers its hard to resist playing. i cant count my losses but good thing is i know when to stop and my limitation when playing.

Maybe addicted gamblers didn't realize even they are always in losing side because all they think is to play and win. Meaning to say they don't know how to discipline themselves because it always start from their own. Some of them has a good source of money so they can gamble every time they wanted either win or lose.

Yeah i think their mentality towards this is that iy doesn't matter if they lose becausr eventually they'd win and earn everything back. An addicted gambler wouldn't think about the amount they lost already as long as they win a couple of times and i think this boosts their addiction more, which is the reason why irresponsible gambling is very dangerous

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Quote from: lienfaye on February 08, 2017, 07:11:34 AM

If you have control to yourself you can stop if you already win but for addicted gamblers its hard to resist playing. i cant count my losses but good thing is i know when to stop and my limitation when playing.

Maybe addicted gamblers didn't realize even they are always in losing side because all they think is to play and win. Meaning to say they don't know how to discipline themselves because it always start from their own. Some of them has a good source of money so they can gamble every time they wanted either win or lose.

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Quote from: lienfaye on February 08, 2017, 07:11:34 AM

Quote from: Text on February 07, 2017, 09:49:30 AM

If the house edge has the advantage against us then we should take an advantage too while playing gamble games which is saving, so whenever we are losing we can say it totally not. If you feel that you have already made a profit, stop for a while and continue tomorrow.

If you have control to yourself you can stop if you already win but for addicted gamblers its hard to resist playing. i cant count my losses but good thing is i know when to stop and my limitation when playing.

I think it's better not to count our loses so we will not be frustrated, let us just think that what we lose is just the amount we need to spend in gambling. Gambling is very entertaining so we have to pay for the experience. Winning is just a bonus, we just have to be thankful when we win as it does not happen all the time.

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Quote from: Text on February 07, 2017, 09:49:30 AM

If the house edge has the advantage against us then we should take an advantage too while playing gamble games which is saving, so whenever we are losing we can say it totally not. If you feel that you have already made a profit, stop for a while and continue tomorrow.

If you have control to yourself you can stop if you already win but for addicted gamblers its hard to resist playing. i cant count my losses but good thing is i know when to stop and my limitation when playing.

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Quote from: tommorisonwebdesign on October 03, 2015, 03:32:01 PM

Let's be honest. Gambling should only be considered for entertainment purposes only. If you are in need of quick cash, doing hard dirty work is more often than not better than hitting up the casino sites. I see way too many people in this section try to justify their gambling habits by saying they have strategies to always win. Others on this forum will go as far as to say that they are professional gamblers, and they always win. You're fooling no one and you look stupid.

All the gambling addicts I knew in real life who claimed to win from casinos all the time had serious mental issues. I went gambling with that guy once, and he ended up blaming me for him loosing at Pai Gow poker, a game that's 100% chance.

And just to let you guys know, ALL the casinos in my jurisdiction say the same things in public advertising campaigns. So far, my sig campaign manager has not PM'ed me telling me to quit bashing gambling. Nobody wins gambling, so lets stop pretending anyone here makes a living gambling online.

Actually, the essence of gambling is the more we loss in the games is the more we aggressive to play the games repeatedly. Particularly, if we win the games, the addiction is little by little applying in our mind and character.

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Quote from: boyptc on February 08, 2017, 01:04:10 AM

Quote from: shulio on February 07, 2017, 11:04:36 AM

Quote from: bitllionaire on February 07, 2017, 10:16:46 AM

in fact entertainment is not the main reason for playing gambling. most of the people play gambling for making money and only then they can entertain gambling other wise they will feel gambling as boring game of the world. i think if some one want to get entertainment so there are so many other types of activity from where one can get more fun and enjoyment as compare to gambling.

Some people feel different about it, they want to get entertainment form it and also making money at the same time. This is a good way of doing two things in the same time, some people get lucky of course and win so we cant really blame them for what they are doing as long as they feel cool about losing money in gambling

And most of us are not included with those people that are getting lucky, they are getting entertainment and money at the same time. But most of us are really winning for just a while and lose a lot after gambling. Also it is our choice when we are losing in the long run we don't intend to quit as if we already know how gambling owrks.

but i think there are also some expert people having good luck, they really making good money in gambling on regular basis. in fact these people play gambling for long long time and they know all the tricks of gambling that the new gambler do not know. but still gambling is a game of luck they also have the risk to lose money.

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Quote from: shulio on February 07, 2017, 11:04:36 AM

Quote from: bitllionaire on February 07, 2017, 10:16:46 AM

in fact entertainment is not the main reason for playing gambling. most of the people play gambling for making money and only then they can entertain gambling other wise they will feel gambling as boring game of the world. i think if some one want to get entertainment so there are so many other types of activity from where one can get more fun and enjoyment as compare to gambling.

Some people feel different about it, they want to get entertainment form it and also making money at the same time. This is a good way of doing two things in the same time, some people get lucky of course and win so we cant really blame them for what they are doing as long as they feel cool about losing money in gambling

And most of us are not included with those people that are getting lucky, they are getting entertainment and money at the same time. But most of us are really winning for just a while and lose a lot after gambling. Also it is our choice when we are losing in the long run we don't intend to quit as if we already know how gambling owrks.

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Quote from: upsidedown75 on February 06, 2017, 10:01:14 AM

I don’t get how everyone can’t see this. Of course because of the odds the house is the only one that wins on the long run. If you are a huge whale and bet big amounts and win on the short run and withdraw than you can win, even if you are smaller and just take out a small amount than you can win.

Whether the odds are high or small the house will always win in gambling in the end. This is all about business because this will make them keep on operating and they are not going to build gambling site that is not in favor of them. And always expect that if you are an addicted gambler, you'll just lose in the end or if you can win, very minimal percentage.

Exactly, there is a reason why gambling sites is very profitable and that is because of the house edge. They have the advantage over us and of course since it's provably fair, it cannot be rigged but we are only be entitled for some temporary win.

If once your a gambler to their site and you withdraw all your winnings house edge has their part with it. And if you are going to gamble again with your winnings they have their part again with it so they are going to have double time on getting profit with you. That makes all of us lose in the long run depending on how we are going to use our winnings and will fall for our addiction.

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Quote from: bitllionaire on February 07, 2017, 10:16:46 AM

in fact entertainment is not the main reason for playing gambling. most of the people play gambling for making money and only then they can entertain gambling other wise they will feel gambling as boring game of the world. i think if some one want to get entertainment so there are so many other types of activity from where one can get more fun and enjoyment as compare to gambling.

Some people feel different about it, they want to get entertainment form it and also making money at the same time. This is a good way of doing two things in the same time, some people get lucky of course and win so we cant really blame them for what they are doing as long as they feel cool about losing money in gambling

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Would be very difficult to win some profits by gambling, if you can gamble for fun and know when to stop, you will not suffer huge losses.

Treat gambling as a way to entertain yourself and not as a source of income since it is very difficult to obtain earnings out of it for the simple reason the math of the game is against us in the form of the house edge, so don’t be greedy and play for fun.

but most of the people play gambling for making money and not for entertainment and they can only entertained in gambling if they are making money in gambling. but it is also a fact that majority of people lose money in gambling but still they continue their struggle to make money in gambling.

in fact entertainment is not the main reason for playing gambling. most of the people play gambling for making money and only then they can entertain gambling other wise they will feel gambling as boring game of the world. i think if some one want to get entertainment so there are so many other types of activity from where one can get more fun and enjoyment as compare to gambling.

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If the house edge has the advantage against us then we should take an advantage too while playing gamble games which is saving, so whenever we are losing we can say it totally not. If you feel that you have already made a profit, stop for a while and continue tomorrow.

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Quote from: upsidedown75 on February 06, 2017, 10:01:14 AM

I don’t get how everyone can’t see this. Of course because of the odds the house is the only one that wins on the long run. If you are a huge whale and bet big amounts and win on the short run and withdraw than you can win, even if you are smaller and just take out a small amount than you can win.

Whether the odds are high or small the house will always win in gambling in the end. This is all about business because this will make them keep on operating and they are not going to build gambling site that is not in favor of them. And always expect that if you are an addicted gambler, you'll just lose in the end or if you can win, very minimal percentage.

Exactly, there is a reason why gambling sites is very profitable and that is because of the house edge. They have the advantage over us and of course since it's provably fair, it cannot be rigged but we are only be entitled for some temporary win.

And if you don't know that house has always the advantage and you keep on gambling with your winnings for sure you are not going to be a productive gambler. I did that before that I don't really care with my profit but I keep on winning and winning again and manage to make some safety to myself by simply saving some of my wins to avoid too much lose in the long run.

I know the house has always the advantage, am I going to be a productive gambler now? No. The whole thing still depends on luck and skill. The output doesn't care if you know about the house edge and how it works. Just like you said, back then you didn't mind it at all but you still won and managed to save some of the money.

The favor is always on the house because otherwise the gambling site would eventually shut down. If you bet 33% chance, you would expect that the average output after thousands of rounds that it would be 1 win every 3 rounds but it would be far from that. The "small" house edge seems to make a huge difference for me.

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Quote from: freedomgo on February 06, 2017, 10:43:24 PM

Quote from: bhadz on February 06, 2017, 10:26:50 PM

Quote from: upsidedown75 on February 06, 2017, 10:01:14 AM

I don’t get how everyone can’t see this. Of course because of the odds the house is the only one that wins on the long run. If you are a huge whale and bet big amounts and win on the short run and withdraw than you can win, even if you are smaller and just take out a small amount than you can win.

Whether the odds are high or small the house will always win in gambling in the end. This is all about business because this will make them keep on operating and they are not going to build gambling site that is not in favor of them. And always expect that if you are an addicted gambler, you'll just lose in the end or if you can win, very minimal percentage.

Exactly, there is a reason why gambling sites is very profitable and that is because of the house edge. They have the advantage over us and of course since it's provably fair, it cannot be rigged but we are only be entitled for some temporary win.

And if you don't know that house has always the advantage and you keep on gambling with your winnings for sure you are not going to be a productive gambler. I did that before that I don't really care with my profit but I keep on winning and winning again and manage to make some safety to myself by simply saving some of my wins to avoid too much lose in the long run.

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Quote from: Botnake on February 07, 2017, 01:10:38 AM

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Quote from: bhadz on February 06, 2017, 10:26:50 PM

Quote from: upsidedown75 on February 06, 2017, 10:01:14 AM

I don’t get how everyone can’t see this. Of course because of the odds the house is the only one that wins on the long run. If you are a huge whale and bet big amounts and win on the short run and withdraw than you can win, even if you are smaller and just take out a small amount than you can win.

Whether the odds are high or small the house will always win in gambling in the end. This is all about business because this will make them keep on operating and they are not going to build gambling site that is not in favor of them. And always expect that if you are an addicted gambler, you'll just lose in the end or if you can win, very minimal percentage.

If the odds is high, that means your 'real' chance of winning is actually small although theoretically it still means 50 %, either you win or lose. The house doeant always win in the end however they will win in the long run on average and people just cant really tell the difference of these statements

That is true in the house but not in sports betting, in short, when you are gambling a game with house edge, there is no way you will be able to win in the long run, you cannot make a debate on that as it is based on math. On the other end, there is a gambling game called sports betting, we know that some games are manipulated, therefore odds that we saw might now be the real odds, that is just made to attract the public.

Not every sportsbetting ia being manipulated, for some league that has millions of viewers like premier league and the others cant be manipulated therefore the result is pretty much real there unlike some lower league in england, the result could be manipulated to favor the house so that they could win huge money

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Quote from: erwin45hacked on February 07, 2017, 12:37:38 AM

Quote from: bhadz on February 06, 2017, 10:26:50 PM

Quote from: upsidedown75 on February 06, 2017, 10:01:14 AM

I don’t get how everyone can’t see this. Of course because of the odds the house is the only one that wins on the long run. If you are a huge whale and bet big amounts and win on the short run and withdraw than you can win, even if you are smaller and just take out a small amount than you can win.

Whether the odds are high or small the house will always win in gambling in the end. This is all about business because this will make them keep on operating and they are not going to build gambling site that is not in favor of them. And always expect that if you are an addicted gambler, you'll just lose in the end or if you can win, very minimal percentage.

If the odds is high, that means your 'real' chance of winning is actually small although theoretically it still means 50 %, either you win or lose. The house doeant always win in the end however they will win in the long run on average and people just cant really tell the difference of these statements

That is true in the house but not in sports betting, in short, when you are gambling a game with house edge, there is no way you will be able to win in the long run, you cannot make a debate on that as it is based on math. On the other end, there is a gambling game called sports betting, we know that some games are manipulated, therefore odds that we saw might now be the real odds, that is just made to attract the public.

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