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legendary
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February 04, 2017, 01:37:11 PM
A large number of players always loose in long run and there are very few players who remain with some extra money in form of profit. Gambling is designed like this where people's money circulates among them that's why some people keep loosing and other winning. I do agree that majority which represents everyone loose.
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February 04, 2017, 12:52:26 PM
i have always lost in the long run, and many times in the short run too Sad

Not only you but most of the people will lose money in gambling if they play every day. Because all these gambling games need only luck to win money other than that all other methods will surely fail at the end and gamblers will definitely lose money. So if you want to earn money then gambling is not the way but if you need fun then only choose gambling.

you can aim for both Fun and to Earn/win money at the same time but it is indeed that gambling is just for those people who has a lot of money that they can afford to lose not for the people who are desperately wanting to earn money . you are right, all methods or strategy will surely fail mostly in the long run and some of these players will only end up losing a lot amount of their money . people should not only get an "invest only what you can afford to lose" advise but they also really need a discipline and control in order to prevent a huge loss .
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February 04, 2017, 12:44:21 PM
- Gambling is a game based on luck, although you can try to analyze or statistics, but you can still lose
- Prediction is something belonging to the future, and the future is never predictable
- In sports betting, you rely on your skills and play with a small money, because you know there will be risks, so you do not bet big. You are not sure about your predictions and you are afraid to lose money

I believe in maths and statistics so;

If gambling sites or casinos are unbiased (provably fair) then when you play, say American roulette there are 38 possible results. The red are the 18 of them. So the probability of winning a bet on red are 18/38, or 47.37%. So the casino will win a little more than the player half of the times.
In sports betting and the very popular soccer everyone believes that based in skills. That's true but many teams are taking money to lose or there are facts which are not known by the punters or some of them are unpredictable during the game and affect the result. So again maths, and the only sure in home, away, draw game is the probability is always 33.33%  
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February 04, 2017, 12:00:40 PM
But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension. 

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

It depends on person to person. Sports betting is still a sort of gambling and not everyone can afford to lose big amounts. So those who have less money can invest less in betting and win. I also prefer small bets because i also do not have lot of money to play with.
yes i think it is not correct to say that every one loses in long run. i do not think so , to me i think most of the people loses in the long run but not all the people because i have a good experience of that i know so many people here in my local area who are leading a good life and they are mostly depending on gambling.

If you dont believe me than trust math atleast. It is not a super math that needs genius to solve it, everyone can do their own calculation. Everyone lose in the long run because there is a house edge when there is no variance, so in conclusion no one actually win because variance only happen in short term
- Gambling is a game based on luck, although you can try to analyze or statistics, but you can still lose
- Prediction is something belonging to the future, and the future is never predictable
- In sports betting, you rely on your skills and play with a small money, because you know there will be risks, so you do not bet big. You are not sure about your predictions and you are afraid to lose money
Well I agree with u that statistics won't help anyone at all. About sports betting I found a way where there is really no risk or really less risk.
The strategy is to use the site which allows live betting and bet on the match which is going to end in 10 min it gives you 80% of chance that you will end up winning the bet. It has really worked for me.
legendary
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February 04, 2017, 11:46:23 AM
- Gambling is a game based on luck, although you can try to analyze or statistics, but you can still lose


Dont try to analyze anything as it wont really make any different at all unless it is sportsbetting however that is not really going to help much I doubt. In the end if it is an EV- games, you are going to lose no matter how good you are in analyzing if variance is not on your side, thats a fact that you should know
hero member
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February 04, 2017, 09:38:56 AM
But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension. 

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

It depends on person to person. Sports betting is still a sort of gambling and not everyone can afford to lose big amounts. So those who have less money can invest less in betting and win. I also prefer small bets because i also do not have lot of money to play with.
yes i think it is not correct to say that every one loses in long run. i do not think so , to me i think most of the people loses in the long run but not all the people because i have a good experience of that i know so many people here in my local area who are leading a good life and they are mostly depending on gambling.

If you dont believe me than trust math atleast. It is not a super math that needs genius to solve it, everyone can do their own calculation. Everyone lose in the long run because there is a house edge when there is no variance, so in conclusion no one actually win because variance only happen in short term
- Gambling is a game based on luck, although you can try to analyze or statistics, but you can still lose
- Prediction is something belonging to the future, and the future is never predictable
- In sports betting, you rely on your skills and play with a small money, because you know there will be risks, so you do not bet big. You are not sure about your predictions and you are afraid to lose money
hero member
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February 04, 2017, 09:34:04 AM
i have always lost in the long run, and many times in the short run too Sad

Not only you but most of the people will lose money in gambling if they play every day. Because all these gambling games need only luck to win money other than that all other methods will surely fail at the end and gamblers will definitely lose money. So if you want to earn money then gambling is not the way but if you need fun then only choose gambling.
Well i don't agree fully with you as gambling is not only luck but a gambler does need some sort of strategy before investing or maybe some sort of goal but i do agree with you that gambling is for people who want to have fun or i would say that invest only the money you can afford to lose.
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February 04, 2017, 09:09:59 AM
i have always lost in the long run, and many times in the short run too Sad

That's why gambling is really destined to make its gamblers, majority to lose in he long run. So if you know how gambling works then you are aware of what is possible to happen when you gamble. It is a good attitude if you are already earned some good amount then make it sure that you are going to secure profit so that you will not feel sorry in the end.
legendary
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February 04, 2017, 09:00:07 AM
In fact, if your attitude is to win every bet you put,  I think you will lose it in the long run, but if you win a couple of bucks then go home, then your chances of loosing is small as compared to those people that think that they win all the time.

Your chance of winning and losing stays the same. You will lose in the long run or you might be lucky if variance struck over however there is never a guarantee that it is going to happen. Variance might happen either in short or long run and if it really happen then no matter what you might win quite a huge amount

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legendary
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February 04, 2017, 08:44:23 AM
i have always lost in the long run, and many times in the short run too Sad

Not only you but most of the people will lose money in gambling if they play every day. Because all these gambling games need only luck to win money other than that all other methods will surely fail at the end and gamblers will definitely lose money. So if you want to earn money then gambling is not the way but if you need fun then only choose gambling.
hero member
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February 04, 2017, 07:27:04 AM
But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension.  

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

As i said i don't want to take risk, even i know in small bet my money is already on the risk, and i am not winning all the time in gambling.
But i think you are wrong said that sports betting doesn't need Superior Skills? You know without skill and prediction you can't do bet, especially in sports betting, because other than games don't need skills because they are luck base game.
I agree with shulio here, you don't need super skills only thing you have to do is check statistics, predict outcome and make bet.

Actually...
You know without skill and prediction you can't do bet
...why not? You can't do bet without prediction on high odds and hope it will pass  Grin

As you mention skills, can you tell us what skills do you use for sport bets, as you don't have any effect on outcome of match?

Let me tell you? If you have no skills of judgemental, and if you can't predict in sports betting, than how you know that which team will be doing best in the match?
No one is perfect predictable here in gambling, we just guess in our skill base and information wise, than we do bet on match.
Also i respect you opinions, but everyone have his own way to play gambling, and everyone is playing with their own thinking.
Well as far as I remember in sports a person has 2 options to bet before the match and to bet during the match. Well Idk anything abt the sports player but I have some knowledge of the sports so that's how I win my bet. By placing ir when the match is abt to end. Even though the return is less but at the risk is also really less
sr. member
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February 04, 2017, 06:32:13 AM
But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension. 

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

It depends on person to person. Sports betting is still a sort of gambling and not everyone can afford to lose big amounts. So those who have less money can invest less in betting and win. I also prefer small bets because i also do not have lot of money to play with.
yes i think it is not correct to say that every one loses in long run. i do not think so , to me i think most of the people loses in the long run but not all the people because i have a good experience of that i know so many people here in my local area who are leading a good life and they are mostly depending on gambling.

In fact, if your attitude is to win every bet you put,  I think you will lose it in the long run, but if you win a couple of bucks then go home, then your chances of loosing is small as compared to those people that think that they win all the time. House has the advantage not you. Maybe that's the attitude of some of your locals you describe that are having a good life and depending on gambling as their source of income everyday.
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February 04, 2017, 05:13:47 AM
Let's be honest. Gambling should only be considered for entertainment purposes only. If you are in need of quick cash, doing hard dirty work is more often than not better than hitting up the casino sites. I see way too many people in this section try to justify their gambling habits by saying they have strategies to always win. Others on this forum will go as far as to say that they are professional gamblers, and they always win. You're fooling no one and you look stupid.

All the gambling addicts I knew in real life who claimed to win from casinos all the time had serious mental issues. I went gambling with that guy once, and he ended up blaming me for him loosing at Pai Gow poker, a game that's 100% chance.

And just to let you guys know, ALL the casinos in my jurisdiction say the same things in public advertising campaigns. So far, my sig campaign manager has not PM'ed me telling me to quit bashing gambling. Nobody wins gambling, so lets stop pretending anyone here makes a living gambling online.

You already answered your own question, And for what is supposed to do lets not take it seriously while we gambling in the sites, because if we did, we might gonna hurt ourselves, though we must not get envy to others on which they are clever success and bettors.

hero member
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January 28, 2017, 11:23:15 PM
But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension.  

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

As i said i don't want to take risk, even i know in small bet my money is already on the risk, and i am not winning all the time in gambling.
But i think you are wrong said that sports betting doesn't need Superior Skills? You know without skill and prediction you can't do bet, especially in sports betting, because other than games don't need skills because they are luck base game.
I agree with shulio here, you don't need super skills only thing you have to do is check statistics, predict outcome and make bet.

Actually...
You know without skill and prediction you can't do bet
...why not? You can't do bet without prediction on high odds and hope it will pass  Grin

As you mention skills, can you tell us what skills do you use for sport bets, as you don't have any effect on outcome of match?

Let me tell you? If you have no skills of judgemental, and if you can't predict in sports betting, than how you know that which team will be doing best in the match?
No one is perfect predictable here in gambling, we just guess in our skill base and information wise, than we do bet on match.
Also i respect you opinions, but everyone have his own way to play gambling, and everyone is playing with their own thinking.
legendary
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January 28, 2017, 08:44:31 PM
But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension. 

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

It depends on person to person. Sports betting is still a sort of gambling and not everyone can afford to lose big amounts. So those who have less money can invest less in betting and win. I also prefer small bets because i also do not have lot of money to play with.
yes i think it is not correct to say that every one loses in long run. i do not think so , to me i think most of the people loses in the long run but not all the people because i have a good experience of that i know so many people here in my local area who are leading a good life and they are mostly depending on gambling.

If you dont believe me than trust math atleast. It is not a super math that needs genius to solve it, everyone can do their own calculation. Everyone lose in the long run because there is a house edge when there is no variance, so in conclusion no one actually win because variance only happen in short term
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January 28, 2017, 05:30:22 PM
i have always lost in the long run, and many times in the short run too Sad
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January 28, 2017, 05:28:37 PM
But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension. 

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

It depends on person to person. Sports betting is still a sort of gambling and not everyone can afford to lose big amounts. So those who have less money can invest less in betting and win. I also prefer small bets because i also do not have lot of money to play with.
yes i think it is not correct to say that every one loses in long run. i do not think so , to me i think most of the people loses in the long run but not all the people because i have a good experience of that i know so many people here in my local area who are leading a good life and they are mostly depending on gambling.
hero member
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January 28, 2017, 11:38:05 AM
But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension. 

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match


Actually it's true. If I would be sure in myself in in that kind of gambling where I feel myself sure I would gamble much higher money, cause of little bets have no sense. If only for fun, but as the way for making money bets have to be bigger.
legendary
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January 28, 2017, 11:17:29 AM
But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension. 

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

It depends on person to person. Sports betting is still a sort of gambling and not everyone can afford to lose big amounts. So those who have less money can invest less in betting and win. I also prefer small bets because i also do not have lot of money to play with.

I dont see anything wrong with betting small amounts in sports betting. I agree that it is pretty much the gambling type that has the best chance of giving you earnings. Though betting little amounts doesnt mean that you have no confidence in winning because if you bet in the correct game that you know a lot, the chances of winning is a lot better than losing. It's just maybe that gambling itself is not a top priority for the person that's why bet small amounts. It just about knowing your priorities dude

being small or big is a relative term.
one amount can be small for someone and be big for some other person. that is why you should always have a point of reference for example your bankroll or your wallet balance. if you have a large amount of funds then a 0.01 bet is small for you and if not 1 satoshi is.
the important part is betting what you can afford to lose.
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January 28, 2017, 11:12:06 AM
But i have a thinking, i do small bets and many time in sports betting, because in sports if you have skills than you can win, and always do small bet because if you lose, than definitely, you never take tension. 

If you think that sportsbetting need skill and you have the skill, why are you still betting a small amount until today? that just mean you are also not sure about what you are talking about and I know that sportsbetting doesnt really need superiol skill and all you need to do is to make some predictions for the match

It depends on person to person. Sports betting is still a sort of gambling and not everyone can afford to lose big amounts. So those who have less money can invest less in betting and win. I also prefer small bets because i also do not have lot of money to play with.

I dont see anything wrong with betting small amounts in sports betting. I agree that it is pretty much the gambling type that has the best chance of giving you earnings. Though betting little amounts doesnt mean that you have no confidence in winning because if you bet in the correct game that you know a lot, the chances of winning is a lot better than losing. It's just maybe that gambling itself is not a top priority for the person that's why bet small amounts. It just about knowing your priorities dude
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