Topic: Evidence of alias (u=1764044) long con scam! - page 2. (Read 6711 times)

Quote from: alia_alt on March 08, 2018, 12:56:54 AM

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If my brother wishes to comment on how he planned to prove that he was a girl, then he will do so. Personally, I don't see how any boy can fool a live interview. My voice is probably the most girly there is, and I'll appear on camera with my face cut off. Anyone can sell ewhore packs and put on fake videos on Skype, which is likely what many people do, but a live interview with specific questions directed towards me? That I answer in my own voice live on camera? Pretty solid evidence right there.

Skype is easy and it's what I use. I'm not asking you to use it, you're not trusted enough. I'd prefer someone trusted to do it, thanks anyway

Even if you can get a "trusted" member to concede to using skype with you, I doubt that any "trusted" member would agree to allowing you to set terms, especially in such a way that your face is not viewable, because part of the whole point would be to verify you as a person including your facial expressions when asked questions and verifying various information that the trusted member would attempt to live verify with you and things like that.

Also, I doubt that you would be allowed to chose who is the trusted member doing such a speculated video interview, unless there is some kind of obvious conflict of interest or some kind of past interaction with you that kind of shows potential problems with any particular trusted member, of course you could state your objections but that might not rule the day if you want such a favor (not favour) as to attempting a video verification of you.

Further, remember earlier that there was a bit of an exchange between you, me and suchmoon attempting to figure out what you had meant by "one way verification," and that was contemplated as a kind of video interaction in which you would be in the video, but the "trusted member" would not be in any video because there is would be no need for the trusted member to be in such video since s/he is not the one who is being verified (you and possibly your brother would be).

I guess part of my point here is that if any trusted member would be ready, willing and able to do this verifification thingie-ma-jiggie, then the trusted member would be attempting to set the terms of the interview and not you, but it seems questionable either whether at this time, any such video interview would help to establish anything useful to the forum and/or whether there would be any such video interview process that would be sufficiently comfortable that a trusted member would be willing to employ for any speculated video identity verification process.

Earlier, you seemed to concede that a video interview would not really help to fix anything, but now you are back on the video interview idea - and seeming even to convolute terms, such as asserting that your face would not be visible, which seems like a real deal breaker, to me, even if there could be some agreement that a video could be helpful in some regards in this matter.

Face not being visible makes no difference. If myself and my brother's bodies are visible, and my voice, clearly a girl's, is answering questions, it should be sufficient. I'm not choosing the member, I just want the member to be trusted (aka dark green trust)

ibpminer is light green trust tho Roll Eyes

That is part of my point that alia is not in a position to be dictating various terms of the process, including whatever level of greenishness that she believes to be adequate or other terms such as obscuring her or her brother's face.

Sure, if some "trusted" member were to hypothetically agree to video interview her /and brother on such terms then the trusted member may be agreeing to jeopardizing his/her own abilities to exercise sufficient and adequate scrutinies in such a identity verification process - if such were to occur.

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Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 08, 2018, 12:48:54 AM

Quote from: alia_alt on March 08, 2018, 12:20:06 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 08, 2018, 12:48:54 AM

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If my brother wishes to comment on how he planned to prove that he was a girl, then he will do so. Personally, I don't see how any boy can fool a live interview. My voice is probably the most girly there is, and I'll appear on camera with my face cut off. Anyone can sell ewhore packs and put on fake videos on Skype, which is likely what many people do, but a live interview with specific questions directed towards me? That I answer in my own voice live on camera? Pretty solid evidence right there.

Skype is easy and it's what I use. I'm not asking you to use it, you're not trusted enough. I'd prefer someone trusted to do it, thanks anyway

Even if you can get a "trusted" member to concede to using skype with you, I doubt that any "trusted" member would agree to allowing you to set terms, especially in such a way that your face is not viewable, because part of the whole point would be to verify you as a person including your facial expressions when asked questions and verifying various information that the trusted member would attempt to live verify with you and things like that.

Also, I doubt that you would be allowed to chose who is the trusted member doing such a speculated video interview, unless there is some kind of obvious conflict of interest or some kind of past interaction with you that kind of shows potential problems with any particular trusted member, of course you could state your objections but that might not rule the day if you want such a favor (not favour) as to attempting a video verification of you.

Further, remember earlier that there was a bit of an exchange between you, me and suchmoon attempting to figure out what you had meant by "one way verification," and that was contemplated as a kind of video interaction in which you would be in the video, but the "trusted member" would not be in any video because there is would be no need for the trusted member to be in such video since s/he is not the one who is being verified (you and possibly your brother would be).

I guess part of my point here is that if any trusted member would be ready, willing and able to do this verifification thingie-ma-jiggie, then the trusted member would be attempting to set the terms of the interview and not you, but it seems questionable either whether at this time, any such video interview would help to establish anything useful to the forum and/or whether there would be any such video interview process that would be sufficiently comfortable that a trusted member would be willing to employ for any speculated video identity verification process.

Earlier, you seemed to concede that a video interview would not really help to fix anything, but now you are back on the video interview idea - and seeming even to convolute terms, such as asserting that your face would not be visible, which seems like a real deal breaker, to me, even if there could be some agreement that a video could be helpful in some regards in this matter.

Face not being visible makes no difference. If myself and my brother's bodies are visible, and my voice, clearly a girl's, is answering questions, it should be sufficient. I'm not choosing the member, I just want the member to be trusted (aka dark green trust)

ibpminer is light green trust tho Roll Eyes

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Quote from: alia_alt on March 08, 2018, 12:20:06 AM

Quote from: alia_alt on March 08, 2018, 12:20:06 AM

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If my brother wishes to comment on how he planned to prove that he was a girl, then he will do so. Personally, I don't see how any boy can fool a live interview. My voice is probably the most girly there is, and I'll appear on camera with my face cut off. Anyone can sell ewhore packs and put on fake videos on Skype, which is likely what many people do, but a live interview with specific questions directed towards me? That I answer in my own voice live on camera? Pretty solid evidence right there.

Skype is easy and it's what I use. I'm not asking you to use it, you're not trusted enough. I'd prefer someone trusted to do it, thanks anyway

Even if you can get a "trusted" member to concede to using skype with you, I doubt that any "trusted" member would agree to allowing you to set terms, especially in such a way that your face is not viewable, because part of the whole point would be to verify you as a person including your facial expressions when asked questions and verifying various information that the trusted member would attempt to live verify with you and things like that.

Also, I doubt that you would be allowed to chose who is the trusted member doing such a speculated video interview, unless there is some kind of obvious conflict of interest or some kind of past interaction with you that kind of shows potential problems with any particular trusted member, of course you could state your objections but that might not rule the day if you want such a favor (not favour) as to attempting a video verification of you.

Further, remember earlier that there was a bit of an exchange between you, me and suchmoon attempting to figure out what you had meant by "one way verification," and that was contemplated as a kind of video interaction in which you would be in the video, but the "trusted member" would not be in any video because there is would be no need for the trusted member to be in such video since s/he is not the one who is being verified (you and possibly your brother would be).

I guess part of my point here is that if any trusted member would be ready, willing and able to do this verifification thingie-ma-jiggie, then the trusted member would be attempting to set the terms of the interview and not you, but it seems questionable either whether at this time, any such video interview would help to establish anything useful to the forum and/or whether there would be any such video interview process that would be sufficiently comfortable that a trusted member would be willing to employ for any speculated video identity verification process.

Earlier, you seemed to concede that a video interview would not really help to fix anything, but now you are back on the video interview idea - and seeming even to convolute terms, such as asserting that your face would not be visible, which seems like a real deal breaker, to me, even if there could be some agreement that a video could be helpful in some regards in this matter.

Face not being visible makes no difference. If myself and my brother's bodies are visible, and my voice, clearly a girl's, is answering questions, it should be sufficient. I'm not choosing the member, I just want the member to be trusted (aka dark green trust)

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If my brother wishes to comment on how he planned to prove that he was a girl, then he will do so. Personally, I don't see how any boy can fool a live interview. My voice is probably the most girly there is, and I'll appear on camera with my face cut off. Anyone can sell ewhore packs and put on fake videos on Skype, which is likely what many people do, but a live interview with specific questions directed towards me? That I answer in my own voice live on camera? Pretty solid evidence right there.

Skype is easy and it's what I use. I'm not asking you to use it, you're not trusted enough. I'd prefer someone trusted to do it, thanks anyway

Even if you can get a "trusted" member to concede to using skype with you, I doubt that any "trusted" member would agree to allowing you to set terms, especially in such a way that your face is not viewable, because part of the whole point would be to verify you as a person including your facial expressions when asked questions and verifying various information that the trusted member would attempt to live verify with you and things like that.

Also, I doubt that you would be allowed to chose who is the trusted member doing such a speculated video interview, unless there is some kind of obvious conflict of interest or some kind of past interaction with you that kind of shows potential problems with any particular trusted member, of course you could state your objections but that might not rule the day if you want such a favor (not favour) as to attempting a video verification of you.

Further, remember earlier that there was a bit of an exchange between you, me and suchmoon attempting to figure out what you had meant by "one way verification," and that was contemplated as a kind of video interaction in which you would be in the video, but the "trusted member" would not be in any video because there is would be no need for the trusted member to be in such video since s/he is not the one who is being verified (you and possibly your brother would be).

I guess part of my point here is that if any trusted member would be ready, willing and able to do this verifification thingie-ma-jiggie, then the trusted member would be attempting to set the terms of the interview and not you, but it seems questionable either whether at this time, any such video interview would help to establish anything useful to the forum and/or whether there would be any such video interview process that would be sufficiently comfortable that a trusted member would be willing to employ for any speculated video identity verification process.

Earlier, you seemed to concede that a video interview would not really help to fix anything, but now you are back on the video interview idea - and seeming even to convolute terms, such as asserting that your face would not be visible, which seems like a real deal breaker, to me, even if there could be some agreement that a video could be helpful in some regards in this matter.

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Quote from: alia_alt on March 07, 2018, 11:20:28 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on March 07, 2018, 07:55:35 PM

Quote from: alia_alt on March 07, 2018, 06:32:13 PM

For the 12th time... I'm waiting for someone trusted to skype me and verify me. Calling me a scammer just makes you look stupid without proof.

For the 13th time, a skype conversation wouldn't prove shit. You would likely just repeat the same crap you're repeating here. Why would anyone stake their reputation on something like that?

I'm not sure if you're trolling or just stupid, so I'll treat you like you're just being stupid. You see, people doubt that I am a girl, so me Skyping them and interviewing them will prove I am one, erasing one layer of doubt. And, being audited by trusted members (my script and service) would remove the final layer of doubt. Hopefully you understand that and it's not too complicated for you.

I’m not sure if you’re trolling, or just stupid; so I’ll treat you like you’re just being stupid. Or maybe I’m stupid, because I just don’t get this. To better assist in working through all this stupidity, let me spell this out:

Arguendo, I will here trust your word that “favours” is your little brother, and thus not a girl. But you see, people doubted that your little brother was a girl. Skyping him and interviewing him would prove that he is, indeed a girl! —Right?

https://archive.is/gfWso

I am a hot girl ("18" y/o Indian)
This is me https://gyazo.com/ea7f64ef800d4c3a44aacd2e1aa65dd4

[...]

To prove that it is indeed me I will Skype with TWO trusted members. They will post vouches below. Early bird discounts available.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180308000954if_/https://i.imgur.com/9y4mUqO.png

By the way, I have been intending to ask: Is this you? Or is this a photo of your little brother? Or—?

That is not a private or confidential image. It is the self-image provided by the “favours” (“little brother”) account in the above-quoted post.

Sooooo... If your little brother could prove that he’s a girl on Skype, why should I trust your same proof?

Remember that for the purposes of this question, I am trusting your word that you have a little brother, and “favours” is his account. Please don’t contradict that. You would not wish to lose my trust!

Alia, please explain. ELI5! I admit, I must be almost as stupid as suchmoon. I’m so confused.

P.S.,

Quote from: alia_alt on March 07, 2018, 11:20:28 PM

Please explain why you are fixated only on Skype, and Skype only. I asked this upthread. I’ve offered you an alternative which would require minimal effort from you; whereas Skype would require a large effort from me, an undertaking to which you should not feel yourself entitled. Why Skype?

If my brother wishes to comment on how he planned to prove that he was a girl, then he will do so. Personally, I don't see how any boy can fool a live interview. My voice is probably the most girly there is, and I'll appear on camera with my face cut off. Anyone can sell ewhore packs and put on fake videos on Skype, which is likely what many people do, but a live interview with specific questions directed towards me? That I answer in my own voice live on camera? Pretty solid evidence right there.

Skype is easy and it's what I use. I'm not asking you to use it, you're not trusted enough. I'd prefer someone trusted to do it, thanks anyway

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Quote from: suchmoon on March 07, 2018, 07:55:35 PM

Quote from: alia_alt on March 07, 2018, 06:32:13 PM

For the 12th time... I'm waiting for someone trusted to skype me and verify me. Calling me a scammer just makes you look stupid without proof.

For the 13th time, a skype conversation wouldn't prove shit. You would likely just repeat the same crap you're repeating here. Why would anyone stake their reputation on something like that?

I'm not sure if you're trolling or just stupid, so I'll treat you like you're just being stupid. You see, people doubt that I am a girl, so me Skyping them and interviewing them will prove I am one, erasing one layer of doubt. And, being audited by trusted members (my script and service) would remove the final layer of doubt. Hopefully you understand that and it's not too complicated for you.

I’m not sure if you’re trolling, or just stupid; so I’ll treat you like you’re just being stupid. Or maybe I’m stupid, because I just don’t get this. To better assist in working through all this stupidity, let me spell this out:

Arguendo, I will here trust your word that “favours” is your little brother, and thus not a girl. But you see, people doubted that your little brother was a girl. Skyping him and interviewing him would prove that he is, indeed a girl! —Right?

https://archive.is/gfWso

I am a hot girl ("18" y/o Indian)
This is me https://gyazo.com/ea7f64ef800d4c3a44aacd2e1aa65dd4

[...]

To prove that it is indeed me I will Skype with TWO trusted members. They will post vouches below. Early bird discounts available.

By the way, I have been intending to ask: Is this you? Or is this a photo of your little brother? Or—?

That is not a private or confidential image. It is the self-image provided by the “favours” (“little brother”) account in the above-quoted post.

Sooooo... If your little brother could prove that he’s a girl on Skype, why should I trust your same proof?

Remember that for the purposes of this question, I am trusting your word that you have a little brother, and “favours” is his account. Please don’t contradict that. You would not wish to lose my trust!

Alia, please explain. ELI5! I admit, I must be almost as stupid as suchmoon. I’m so confused.

P.S.,

Quote from: suchmoon on March 07, 2018, 07:55:35 PM

Please explain why you are fixated only on Skype, and Skype only. I asked this upthread. I’ve offered you an alternative which would require minimal effort from you; whereas Skype would require a large effort from me, an undertaking to which you should not feel yourself entitled. Why Skype?

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Quote from: alia_alt on March 07, 2018, 06:32:13 PM

For the 12th time... I'm waiting for someone trusted to skype me and verify me. Calling me a scammer just makes you look stupid without proof.

For the 13th time, a skype conversation wouldn't prove shit. You would likely just repeat the same crap you're repeating here. Why would anyone stake their reputation on something like that?

Quote from: alia_alt on March 07, 2018, 06:41:20 PM

Np. And, I'd like you to verify that the numbers I claim about the script are real. I can PM you the JS code and explain it to you with my calculations. I'll give you the account link for the site I use. I can do a demo run with my own money as well, in fact, as many demo runs as you want. Once that's been figured out, we can begin the service with the stipulations in the thread in my sig

Great example of how you're trying to rope reputable members (ibminer in this case) into your harebrained schemes.

And who's "we"? You and your alt?

I'm not sure if you're trolling or just stupid, so I'll treat you like you're just being stupid. You see, people doubt that I am a girl, so me Skyping them and interviewing them will prove I am one, erasing one layer of doubt. And, being audited by trusted members (my script and service) would remove the final layer of doubt. Hopefully you understand that and it's not too complicated for you.

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Quote from: alia_alt on March 07, 2018, 06:32:13 PM

For the 12th time... I'm waiting for someone trusted to skype me and verify me. Calling me a scammer just makes you look stupid without proof.

For the 13th time, a skype conversation wouldn't prove shit. You would likely just repeat the same crap you're repeating here. Why would anyone stake their reputation on something like that?

Quote from: alia_alt on March 07, 2018, 06:41:20 PM

Np. And, I'd like you to verify that the numbers I claim about the script are real. I can PM you the JS code and explain it to you with my calculations. I'll give you the account link for the site I use. I can do a demo run with my own money as well, in fact, as many demo runs as you want. Once that's been figured out, we can begin the service with the stipulations in the thread in my sig

Great example of how you're trying to rope reputable members (ibminer in this case) into your harebrained schemes.

And who's "we"? You and your alt?

nullius

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Quote from: alia_alt on March 07, 2018, 06:32:13 PM

https://archive.is/gfWso

Quote from: hilariousetc on February 28, 2018, 06:44:31 AM

I am a hot girl ("18" y/o Indian)
This is me https://gyazo.com/ea7f64ef800d4c3a44aacd2e1aa65dd4

[...]

To prove that it is indeed me I will Skype with TWO trusted members. They will post vouches below. Early bird discounts available.

For the 12th time... I'm waiting for someone trusted to skype me and verify me. Calling me a scammer just makes you look stupid without proof.

Just like your “little brother” #974658 “favours” could verify by Skype as a “hot girl”?

Care to explain?

By the way, I have been intending to ask: Is this you? Or is this a photo of your little brother? Or—?

That is not a private or confidential image. It is the self-image provided by the “favours” (“little brother”) account in the above-quoted post. It was posted publicly to gyazo.com, a little-known (and very annoying) site which you use, “favours” used, and “Light” on mpgh.net also used.

Also: Please explain why you are fixated only on Skype, and Skype only. I asked this upthread. I’ve offered you an alternative which would require minimal effort from you; whereas Skype would require a large effort from me, an undertaking to which you should not feel yourself entitled. Why Skype?

This sort of scam isn't new but can be very effective in getting thirsty makes to drop their guard and part with their money once they've seen a bit of verified flesh (because a real life woman won't scam you, right?).

Quote from: alia_alt on March 07, 2018, 07:09:22 PM

It is a principle of human nature that ’tis harder to have and lose, than to never have at all. “alia” [#1764044] took a hard fall after an undeserved meteoric rise. Evidently, someone just can’t let go.

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Quote from: Astargath on March 07, 2018, 07:04:20 PM

Seriously, still discussing about this garbage? Repetitive shit, the guy who is in control of alia's account is clearly delusional and has some sort of gambling problem. He admitted several times that the script doesn't work, then later he goes on to say that it does work like everything he said before that never happened, I mean, it's like he has Alzheimer's or something.

That "admission" was only because I promised to do so if nully donated my money to TPB. Obviously the script works. And if it is audited by trusted members I don't see how you can say otherwise.

Meh, can you refute my point then? The one you said it was irrefutable, remember?

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Quote from: Astargath on March 07, 2018, 07:04:20 PM

Seriously, still discussing about this garbage? Repetitive shit, the guy who is in control of alia's account is clearly delusional and has some sort of gambling problem. He admitted several times that the script doesn't work, then later he goes on to say that it does work like everything he said before that never happened, I mean, it's like he has Alzheimer's or something.

That "admission" was only because I promised to do so if nully donated my money to TPB. Obviously the script works. And if it is audited by trusted members I don't see how you can say otherwise.

Astargath

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Seriously, still discussing about this garbage? Repetitive shit, the guy who is in control of alia's account is clearly delusional and has some sort of gambling problem. He admitted several times that the script doesn't work, then later he goes on to say that it does work like everything he said before that never happened, I mean, it's like he has Alzheimer's or something.

alia_alt

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Quote from: vlom on March 07, 2018, 03:55:10 PM

i stopped reading after page 6.
why the hell is the user alias posting all this stuff? this account is done.

As documented by ibminer many pages after you stopped reading, the same person(s) as “favours” (now allegedly “little brother”) have previously tried and failed with the “Skype me!” sexy girl scam on this forum:

https://archive.is/gfWso

https://web.archive.org/web/20180307212757if_/https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_550439.png

I am a hot girl ("18" y/o Indian)
This is me https://gyazo.com/ea7f64ef800d4c3a44aacd2e1aa65dd4

I will send you a pic of me holding your sign: 0.01 BTC
I will send you a video of me saying your message up to 50 words: 0.02 BTC
I will Skype with you for 15 mins Wink

: 0.1 BTC

To prove that it is indeed me I will Skype with TWO trusted members. They will post vouches below. Early bird discounts available.

Skype is live:sammon9
Trusted members/mods, please contact me for the vouch copy
Others, add me!

The “alia” account started out on 27 January 2018, created a short-lived fad around 30 January, then slipped back into obscurity whilst usually posting once or twice per day (mostly in loan threads). On 16 February 2018, I made my overture; within 3 days thereafter, the account was forum-famous and had an unprecedented signature deal for a Jr. Member. Then fame flipped to infamy with the same suddenness, and fortune frowned accordingly.

It is a principle of human nature that ’tis harder to have and lose, than to never have at all. “alia” took a hard fall after an undeserved meteoric rise. Evidently, someone just can’t let go.

Disclosure of ulterior motives: vlom, I post the foregoing largely to cadge a long-desired opportunity that I may compliment your avatar.

Cheers from somewhere within the onion-layered cipherspace of the.nym.zone.

For the 12th time... I'm waiting for someone trusted to skype me and verify me. Calling me a scammer just makes you look stupid without proof.

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Quote from: vlom on March 07, 2018, 03:55:10 PM

i stopped reading after page 6.
why the hell is the user alias posting all this stuff? this account is done.

As documented by ibminer many pages after you stopped reading, the same person(s) as “favours” (now allegedly “little brother”) have previously tried and failed with the “Skype me!” sexy girl scam on this forum:

https://archive.is/gfWso