Topic: Evidence of alias (u=1764044) long con scam! - page 4. (Read 6720 times)

I posted what follows in Alia's new thread, but she deleted it immediately. This entire post assumes that she is a 19 year old girl as she claims, and there is not a team of people behind her accounts.

I am reposting it here for a number of reasons. Alia, I really want you to read this and not just immediately dismiss it off hand. I am trying to help you. I also want the community to read this and know, that if anyone indulges her in her new "script", you are enabling an addict. This goes beyond a scam and in to the territory of serious mental health issues, with life-changing ramifications. Please, don't do it.





I am a doctor in real life. Whilst I have never met you in real life, or indeed communicated with you in any way outside of publically available posts on this forum, I feel confident suggesting that you have a gambling addiction, and a severe one at that.

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition (DSM-5) is the universal authority for psychiatric diagnoses. The criteria for a "Gambling Disorder" can be viewed here.

I would like to present evidence that you meet every single one of these criteria.

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Needs to gamble with increasing amounts of money in order to achieve the desired excitement.

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Is restless or irritable when attempting to cut down or stop gambling.

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Has made repeated unsuccessful efforts to control, cut back, or stop gambling.

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Is often preoccupied with gambling (e.g., having persistent thoughts of reliving past gambling experiences, handicapping or planning the next venture, thinking of ways to get money with which to gamble).

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Often gambles when feeling distressed (e.g., helpless, guilty, anxious, depressed).

Continuing to gamble when obviously anxious about money:

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After losing money gambling, often returns another day to get even (“chasing” one’s losses).

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Lies to conceal the extent of involvement with gambling.

This entire thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/evidence-of-alias-u-1764044-long-con-scam-3032057

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Has jeopardized or lost a significant relationship, job, or educational or career opportunity because of gambling.

Your relationship with this entire forum and your current -1024 default trust.

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Relies on others to provide money to relieve desperate financial situations caused by gambling.

The fact that you are back again:

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Please, seek help. Your local primary care physician could be a good place to start.

There are a lot of useful resources available at this site: https://www.helpguide.org/articles/addictions/gambling-addiction-and-problem-gambling.htm.

If I remember correctly, from previous threads you said you were based in Singapore. The National Council on Problem Gambling in Singapore offer a free and confidential WebChat and Helpline, as well as free and confidential counselling: https://www.ncpg.org.sg/en/Pages/DealWithProblemGambling.aspx?categ=1&article=30

Please.

Pot, meet kettle.

Distracting? I have done nothing but maintain that aTriz is an untrustworthy scammer, and you have been deleting my posts on your thread of me saying it. You really are full of shit... guess those trust ratings are warranted.

As i previously mentioned, alia has done a very good job of distracting from the conversation.

Thank you very much, I will move my ramblings there. I have no interest in the alia group's shenanigans beyond how they relate to aTriz's behavior. Engaging with them is a waste of time and energy.

scam_detector’s aTriz thread is over here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/can-you-still-believe-atriz-words-reopened-too-many-open-questions-3038096

Enormous confusion has resulted from mixing issues in these two cases.  Although the cases share the same factual background, precision and fairness to all parties can only be had by keeping the topics separate (as if separate “trials”).

The irony.

I am aware of that.  (I am also aware that it would take me much time and sysadmin drudgery to set up a properly sandboxed Skype and a Skype-allowed VPN in front of Tor.)  I was asking Alia.

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The other usual trick is, of course, to exploit the vulnerabilities of men who are “thinking with the little head”.

I am asking Alia why, if genuine, she will not expend modest effort to facilitate communications with someone who, at this point, is only interested in ascertaining the truth.  Of my lack of any other interest, I can assure you:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180306121401/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3044369.140#msg31604889

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@cruso, I will try to avoid discussing aTriz here since scam_detector unlocked the aTriz thread.  As for the topic of Alia:



For the record:  I do lean toward the hypothesis that multiple persons have access to and regularly do access the “alia” account.  It seems that way, based on patterns of behaviour and writing style.  This is part of why I wish to question Alia directly:  If I be wrong in my hypothesis, I wish to find contrary evidence.

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scam_detector’s aTriz thread is over here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/can-you-still-believe-atriz-words-reopened-too-many-open-questions-3038096

I have observed that thus far, scam_detector has behaved in an unbiased manner (not prejudiced for, not prejudiced against any party).

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Oh, this is rich.

TMAN is a good-natured, loyal chap.  On page 1 of this thread, before I even entered the fray (because I was too busy reading RGBKey’s negative trust feedback for Alia), TMAN was defending Alia.  He got burned, because it turns out he got swindled like I did.

TMAN is also the forum’s resident gutter-talk insult comic (though I’m sure speaking quite seriously here).  It’s what he does.  I get a good chuckle out of it.

Now Alia, the ill-tempered, foul-mouthed juvenile delinquent, tries to pretend to be a LoyceV?  Tries to lecture TMAN as if he were a child?  Oh, give me a f—ing break, you — — [beep].  That’s really obscene, Alia—obscene and shameful behaviour.

Dear Lauda,

I admire you standing up for aTriz (your business partner), but you do him no favors by speaking on his behalf. Allow him to speak for himself please. You did not see the script, he did.

I am ready to give aTriz the benefit of the doubt, and I think that a large part of the community will do the same.The questions here are straightforward: A simple yes or no will do.

1 Did aTriz see the script?
2 Did he test the said script?
3 If he did, did he profit from the script.
4 Can he say with certainty, that the profit accrued was due to the fantastic machinations of the script.
5 Is he still using the script? and what are the results? I see no reason why he should stop using it, according to him, the results are fantastic.

If he answers no to these questions, could he have been coerced somehow to make the vouch?

I rest until whenever aTriz answers these questions. Bear in mind that only aTriz aside from the proven liar alia has seen and used this script. Only atriz can tell us if or not the said script is real or a scam.

Funny how you have this weird delusion that people give a shit about what you think. It's very amusing, so keep spewing!

sorry wrong way round - you are the shitcunt and he is the retard.

all you are doing right now is making a show of yourself, you are reflecting very badly on yourself. I can say this as initially I was supporting you, now not at all - you need a decent spanking and sending to your room little girl/boy/hermaphrodite - whatever you are.

"retard" and "cunt"

If I were you, I'd refrain from insulting people (without any other valid points) because it just reflects badly on you.

because he is leaving the retard Alia and the cunt QS alone to talk??

If It was me I would leave the two freaks to get a room together as well

Why is atriz not speaking at all on this topic?

This convo is weird asf.

Because you are obviously mine and aTriz's alt account. All those bets never happened! Right?

I dont understand why I am considered shady, but your thoughts I guess? Anything I can do to help clear up this?

To be fair... I did give him the script, and to be fair... he did make profit from it. You know, because the script is profitable in the short run, for most cases.

Edit: QS is deleting all of my valid posts on the thread about aTriz, so take that whole thread with a large grain of salt. I would recommend going over to scam_detector's post about aTriz.

well seeing as you are a Ponzi lover.. (your relationship with OG, BFL, Piratae, NastyFans) I cant believe you are not more in love with her??

as for aTriz I would wank off a donkey on any sunday of the year if you could prove that he is that shitcunt.

I am not sure if you have noticed, but alia has derailed and distracted from the aTriz related conversations, so I self-moderated my thread in order to prevent her from being able to continue to distract. I also deleted what was clearly troll posts.

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Very interesting theory in that alia is either aTriz himself or a close associate of him. I don't disagree with any of your points, although I think alia ran something closer to a confidence scam than a ponzi scam, although I don't think this difference really matters.

Another interesting point is that aTriz is appearently ran an advertising campaign on a very clear scam, although very strangely, he locked the thread, claiming to not have "time to work on this", and locked the ANN thread of this scam at the same time. Also interestingly, I don't see any evidence of anyone else actually behind that scam, although the scope of my looking was those two threads.

It should be fairly clear that the review/vouch aTriz gave was bogus. I guess the question starts to become why he would give a bogus vouch

Collateral damage. Stop being butthurt and then going on vengeance runs via shills.