Topic: Evolution is a hoax - page 145. (Read 108173 times)

So what come before LUCA?  ..Who planted LUCA ?

So if you rewind a human what would it look like before we was human?..

Ape monkey like?..Why are we called a human and not an ape?..

Frog a toad both the same but different and 1 speaks frog and the other speaks toad ..

Ape human
Frog toad

Normally when frogs and toads share the same pond, their mating occurs at different times. However, as the photo shows, occasionally a late coming frog (the one with the white throat) may turn up on the toad dating scene. You may see them trying to mate each other but the union will be sterile.

Ape and a human can share the same jungle ..And sometimes they do the same as the frog and toad ..
And we have no babies ..Oh you might get aids ..

I love this argument, always highlights the dullards of the forum.

The universe is unimaginably vast, time may be infinite. Do you really think, that despite this great potential for interactions to occur, that DNA is absolutely impossible? That on none of the innumerable worlds, across immeasurable timeframes, the right conditions never came to exist that a DNA like precursor could arise?

I have yet to see how we have modern super fast computers from nothing too...   

Absolutely.
I've the impression that most people have no idea how science works

Let me answer this very simply, evolution is a proven fact, not a theory.

Your initial logic is flawed, we did not evolve from monkeys, homo sapiens and monkeys evolved from an early common ancestor. Whilst all life on earth evolved from the universally common ancestor abbreviated LUCA. It is deeply saddening to see that people remain so ignorant.

Don't quote me again, use google and do some research by yourself instead of posting this retarded meme. You people are so cringy.

Evolution is just a working model and it can be improved; if someone has a better one - without putting in action some kind of God - we'll listen.

I have yet to see how can nothing make a complex DNA by chance (lottery). I would like to see that?

Calling the theory of evolution fake has nothing to do with religious people seeing it as a threat to their religion, as far as the world knows, there hasn't been anything proven to justify this whole thing at all and without the evidence why would anyone believe we evolved from monkeys, why hasn't the other monkeys evolved as well.

He is a religious nut job and anything that he considers threatening to his religion is fake or a hoax. That's how most religious people work. That's 99.99% of the opposition against evolution calling it fake.

this WHOLE topic is a PARADOX

believer and non believers arguing about evolution.



Believer : Believe in idea X. Will never "evolve" or change its mind since he BELIEVE idea X and no other one.


Non Believer : evaluate different ideas, and try to determine wether idea X, Y, Z, D1, H8 or any other might be right.
with each new proof and fact, the non believer will get closer to the answer and the problem's solution. He will change from an idea to an other given the advancement of the study.



Fact : Evolution doesn't need anybody to believe in. everybody belongs to some era of the evolution. Believers and non Believers are co-existing in our era.


but, just like any other species, ceased to exist because of some changes in climate or other parameters. ( such as the dinos ).

the believer concept may cease to exist in a far future because of the so called evolution changes. nothing last foerever, expecially fixed things, and of course fixed ideas.
that's also the main reasons a lot of religious beliefs disappeard over time.

believers, be open minded, and changes your models when needed, this may help your religions last longuer.

evolution may not lie, as there is some evidence evolving today.

for example there are several types of animals that are actually the same but because different places they become different. that evolution does not happen quickly but it takes even millions of years,

I don’t get it? Mutations goes on, on a daily basic!

You don’t look like your father right? You might have different hair color, different shoe size, might be taller, slimmer, run faster, be a better (or worse) athlete, wider face, longer finger, longer legs etc. And that is just the physical changes. There is a whole range of mind changes going on also. This is just the obvious changes. You got an even amount of hidden changes, which will not be obvious right away.

This is just one generation. Imagine 1000 or 100.000 generations.

Now changes themselves are not enough. There are 3 rules that need to become true in order for changes to become permanent in any society.
1) It needs to give you an edge in the mating game. It can be every so good a change, if it does not allow you to prorogate better or at least equal good, it is worthless.
2) It needs to be beneficial for society; two head might think twice as fast, but if society is scared of you, it is no good.
3) The lucky game. Just because you for fill 1) and 2), does not mean your offspring will. Right back to the start of this writing; you don’t look like your father! If your offspring does not carry it on in equal positive manner, it’s just a dead end.

This goes on every single day, for 10 million newborns. Changes are everywhere, permanently changes are one in a million, and takes many many 10.000 of years.

The fact is that almost every supporter of this or that thought can not fully argue their income. I would like everyone to leave their thoughts to themselves and give peace to this or that person. I completely agree with you, but Freedom of choice must exist and give Faith to every person.

That's the thing about evolution. It is not always the same because it can be affected by so many different factors...

Lets stop stupid peoples from saying stupid things..

Examples below..

You fell now the fact you fell how did you fall?..Many ways you could of fell..

Now evolution..

How did Mars evolve ?
How did a tree evolve?
how did that spot evolve on your body?

Now the fact you are using the word EVOLVE meaning how did it come to be in other words
many many things can evolve with many different theories just like when you fell how did you fall?

Now imagine you fell and died and we had to guess how you died we would be using science theories
and test to see how you fell and died ..But the fact you FELL..
How and where is more questions we need to find out ..

So how did the moon evolve?

So how did humans evolve?..And that's why we say EVOLUTION THEORIES ..
Evolution theories is not just about humans ..How did many things EVOLVE..

Just the same as using the word FELL ..

Imagine a guy walks in hospital with a scrape on his head and then he drops dead..
You know he fell where and how is now the ANSWER?..

Well the same with EVOLUTION THEORIES we know the EARTH made us but how where and when is not
known yet and will we ever know?..Maybe if aliens had a video recorder and watched us in beta max.

So we know for fact the earth made us by DNA ..It's a fact we evolved on this earth ..
How and where is yet to be answered with EVOLUTION THEORIES ..

Just like someone who fell and died ..The fact he fell    how and where is yet to be answered ..

Evolution is a fact ..just the same as fact is a fact..

Specially when he tries to prove god, his arguments could be used to prove any kind of god and when I tell him that he always says: why are you bringing religion into this?? and his

Do you notice how all his "arguments" are just circular?

I can change a few words in anything he posts to "prove" almost anything is real.

He just repeats these arguments over and over without providing actual proof of anything.

 

Here we go again, like a broken record.

1. http://answers-in-reason.com/religion/mathematical-impossibility-evolution-debunked/
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB940_1.html


2. In the post you quoted it seems you missed these links:
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CI/CI102.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB200.html
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Irreducible_complexity
https://www.theguardian.com/science/punctuated-equilibrium/2011/jan/10/2


3. Yes Zeus programmed everything. By the way, even if I agree with you and god programmed everything, evolution would still exist lul.

Funny thing is that most religious people actually accept evolution as true. Even pope Francis and many more have stated that evolution is true. he said. “Evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.”

Anyone who knows anything about Catholic history knows that a statement like this is nothing new. Pope Pius XII wrote an encyclical “Humani Generis” in 1950 affirming that there was no conflict between evolution and Catholic faith. Pope John Paul II reaffirmed that, stressing that evolution was more than a hypothesis, in 1996. Pope Benedict XVI hosted a conference on the nuances of creation and evolution in 2006.

You are one of the few nutjobs that still claim evolution is not true.

In my own opinion, evolution is a hoax because of my religious beliefs. I believe that it was God who directly and immediately created human in His own form, and not thru different species.

Look for any explanations that try to rebut the proof that god is impossible. Then, read the rebuttals to see that they are always based in something else that is not proven, or they are circular language that tries to prove god simply by stating in many different ways that god is fact, without showing any real proof.

People who believe in different physical laws for different situations are nothing more than hypocrites.