Topic: Evolution is a hoax - page 15. (Read 108046 times)

^^^ The point isn't about linking articles. Neither is it about nature doing things without the involvement of mankind. The point is about proving evolution. Nothing you have shown has any proof that mankind, in his history and prehistory, was some other animal at some time. All science writings that suggest it don't show that their science wasn't something else.

Even if we could find something that was undeniably ETE, today... something that did not fit adaptation, simple change, or like-begets-like, at all... such isn't proof that life as we know it formed on earth by ETE. Why not? Because abiogenesis might have happened individually for billions of species in the distant past. We don't have any evidence that says it could not have.

There is no proof for evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.



EDIT: The simple fact that, since Darwin, and for thousands of years before, people have not been able to find evolution for a fact, shows that we are very inadequate for and incapable of finding stuff that is right in front of us, or that evolution doesn't exist.

Don't worry, I linked plenty of other examples that didn't involve humans doing anything, just observing, for instance the cane toad (and many more which you clearly refuse to look at because you are a liar) https://www.canetoadsinoz.com/cane-toads-caused-evolution.html

See, this one also evolved and humans didn't even do anything, cya.

^^^ LOL! Now you are saying that nature does experiments according to the scientific method? What? Just because scientists are part of nature, does that really make nature the thing that does the science experiments? You are getting into philosophy with this, where we do things and analyze them according to our doing of them rather than according to the way they fit nature.

The lizards didn't have-to or not-have-to change their environment. They didn't change their environment, and couldn't change their environment. You seem to entirely enjoy suggesting nonsense just to distract from the fact that you don't have any proof for evolution.

When you look through the better science fiction stories, lots of things seem credible. So we see how evolution might seem to be credible. Animals don't develop changes to or in themselves. They change according to their environment acting on programming that has been placed inside of them - in their DNA - right from the Beginning.

Rather than acknowledge how things work, you would maintain something silly like evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

You just said evolution doesnt use the scientific method and now you complain that we did experiments and went right according to previous observations? It shows that if those lizards had to change their environment for whatever reason they would have evolved accordingly, its a pretty clear proof of evidence lol. Its not hard to see how they could turn into another animal after a while if they were able to develop a whole new valve after such a short period of time.

Anyone can experiment repeatedly to prove evolution is real.  But if your faith in your creator is shaky, I understand your need for repetition.

Did you not look at what you just posted?: "... we take them to another environment and they change." So, you set up an experiment and it worked out according to your plans, or at least according to your observations. What does this have to do with nature changing some microbe into all the various plants and animals over, possibly, millions of years?

Part of the big failure of evolution is that we aren't finding any evolution happening in nature. If we find something that looks like evolution, so far we have always found that it could be something else that we are seeing... something other than evolution. So, it isn't proof for evolution.

In our recent studies of the complexities of life, we have found that if evolution theory were the way that life happened, that it would have taken countless billions of years longer than our longest Big Bang timetables suggest. We simply didn't have the tools ten years ago to examine the complexities of life like we have today. Darwin had the same problem. He didn't have the tools to show him all  kinds of complexities.

And all of this calculation is with the most favorable for evolution ecologies in mind. If you use logic the way that things really happen, evolution would be drowned out by the odds against it way before it had any kind of a chance ot happen at all. In other words, evolutionists are trying to talk people into the evolution odds thing in reverse of the way things happen.

In other words, we don't find any evolution happening for sure. And our abilities to find it are inadequate as shown by the fact that we aren't finding any. So, we were simply mistaken when we said evolution existed. But since we don't admit it, but continue to maintain the charade...

Evolution is a hoax.

What about the other choices we haven't discovered yet?

What do you understand as proof exactly? The evidence is extremely clear, we have a few lizards, we take them to another environment and they change, adapt and finally evolve and all of them become a different type of lizard, how is that not proof? Evolution is consistently tested through the scientific method, see:

https://www.ibiology.org/sessions/session-4-evolution-measured/
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/12/091231164743.htm

''In the absence of any other validated hypothesis, the Theory of Evolution stands as the most logical conclusion.'' Again, nothing in science is 100% a fact since you cannot prove that we are in a simulation, for instance so that argument can be used for literally anything, however as I said numerous times, evolution is the most logical conclusion based on the evidence we have, if you have a better one, simply propose it. So far no one has done it.

^^^ You just don't get it, do you. ALL examples of evolution theory evolution are simply talk with no proof to back them up. All that the best of them do is show some real evidence of adaptation that could be attributed to ETE or something else. As such, they don't prove ETE.

Until you look at the science involved in so-called ETE, you won't see that there is no ETE proof according to the scientific method... except one. That proof is political science, which says to keep on talking until people believe you even if there is no other proof.

That's all you have for ETE... political science. If you are honest, you have been duped and are simply comfortable in that state. If you aren't honest, you are a troll.

Evolution is a hoax.

I provided several examples of evolution, your only response was to: link an article that was mocking creationists and saying, durr hurr but what if it was programmed by god to make it look like evolution in order to deceive us. I'm sorry but you are never going to be convinced, your delusion is too big at this point. You don't even admit you fucked up by linking an article against yourself (which you did twice btw, long time ago).

^^^ What argument? There isn't any evolution (ETE) that anyone has any evidence of, to say nothing about proof for. The whole ETE thing is a system of stories that are suppositions about what might be. But there are so many holes in it, besides the fact of no proof, that it should have been dropped as a theory long ago. In fact, the changes in the theory over the years are so great that it isn't really the same theory at all.

All you are attempting to do is maintain a hoax. And, of course, you are reasonably free to do so. It isn't about embarrassment. It's about credibility. And evolutionists are losing theirs.

God made nature so dynamically complex that science is just beginning to delve a little into the real complexity of it. Once they delve a little further, they are going to see that everything is programmed. There isn't any random change.

You lost the argument when you linked an article that was intended to make fun of creationists and you didn't even realize it. It literally said so in the first paragraph: ''he title gets the principal objection of any creationist out of the way: yes, this population of Podarcis sicula is still made up of lizards, but they’re a different kind of lizard now. Evolution works.''

Do you actually not feel embarrassed or pathetic while continuing this conversation? You made a fool of yourself several times and you keep coming back for more? You are literally linking articles supporting evolution mate.

^^^ No proof that evolution exists there in what you posted.

You don't realize, do you, that the more you attempt to distract away from finding or expressing proof of ETE, the more you are really expressing that there isn't any.

Evolution is a hoax.

Of course it does, it proves god is a complete hoax, since you cannot prove we are not in a simulation, your god is essentially a hoax.

PD: I'm using your silly arguments against you to prove a point, I doubt you understand it but it's fun haha.

^^^ Computer matrix or simulation doesn't have anything to do with proving evolution. Your posting of these ideas is simply a method you are using to distract that there isn't any proof for evolution theory evolution at all.

Essentially, evolution is a complete hoax.

''Nobody knows that the change wasn't something that is programmed in the DNA as an on-the-shelf adaptation protection, ready since the Beginning'' True, nobody knows that we aren't living in a matrix/computer simulation or do they know it but haven't announced it? The point is that we might as well throw everything out the window because we could all be just a giant simulation.

^^^ Thank you.

Still lizards of the same kind. Nobody knows that the change wasn't something that is programmed in the DNA as an on-the-shelf adaptation protection, ready since the Beginning, to be used when necessary. Or do they know it, and just haven't announced it?

The point isn't that there might or might not be evolution (ETE). The point is that nobody has proven it. Another point is that nobody has proven it after trying for 150 years or more regarding Darwin, and for thousands of years regarding those who came before him and tried.

These points are starting to prove that ETE doesn't exist, because nobody can find it. And since they are starting prove they can't find it, but keep on talking like it does exist, they are formally promoting a hoax.

Evolution is a hoax.

Evolution is a fact... some forms of it.

If you look in the dictionary - https://www.dictionary.com/browse/evolution - you can find all kinds of explanations of the word "evolution." Properly applied, evolution is fact.

The form of evolution made popular by Darwin, that says that animals change into other animals over thousands or hundreds of thousands of years, and that all life had its start with some microbe, the descendants of which gradually changed into other "animals," has never come close to having a proof start. All the evidence for such a thing having happened, easily fits other forms of "evolution" found in the dictionary or in encyclopedias.

When Astargath suggests that a link I used is really pro-evolution of the evolution-theory-evolution kind (ETE), he forgets that the evolutionist that speaks in that site, simply announces a fact where there is adaptation change, but still the same basic animal (lizard) - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51252920. In other words, there is no change into another kind of animal... no ETE.

If you have proof for ETE, other than simple stories about how ETE might exist in history, show the proof. As I have said many times, there is no way that we know to prove it except through painstaking DNA examination. And examining the DNA of millions of animals and plants from thousands and hundreds of thousands of years ago is literally impossible in any way we know.

In other words, we know that evolution can never be proven without tremendous advancements in science. We know this. And since we know this, yet state that evolution is factual, we are promoting a hoax among people who don't understand the ETE process, or who don't understand that we literally can't know if it is factual or not.

Evolution is a hoax.

I am with you in the moon landing conspiracy, no one went to the moon after that and now they are exploring mars but never had a plan to explore moon again with all the latest technology and the reason they tell for not exploring moon right now is the extraordinary expense .


Evolution is a fact but i am not with the ape to human transformation theory, if that was the case we will not have any monkeys as every ape and money could have changed through evolution to humans.