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Quote from: notbatman on November 04, 2019, 07:01:57 AM

It can be shown that by selecting certain traits life can be breed, the selection however requires a conscious intervention. The whole idea of an unconscious and random "nature" or "natural" selection is a fallacy.

Scenario: times are hard on the African Savannah. Vegetation close to the ground has all been eaten. A creature with a slightly long neck, let's call it a proto-giraffe, can reach high leaves and so survives. Then times get harder. The high leaves get scarce. The only food is the very highest leaves that only the very tallest proto-giraffes can reach. Many proto-giraffes die, only those with the longest necks survive. Natural selection. They pass on their genes to their children. Now these animals have on average slightly longer necks than was the case in earlier generations. Evolution.

Where's the problem here? Help me out.

Let's leave the steel dome thing for now, I don't know how to respond to that.

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^^^ It's that I know I'm being lied to, and that scientific consensus has been engineered by organized crime; facts twisted, omitted and manufactured to fit a corrupt narrative. Just because a theory sounds plausible and it's been drilled into your head repeatedly by authority, media and people you trust since birth doesn't make it true.

It can be shown that by selecting certain traits life can be breed, the selection however requires a conscious intervention. The whole idea of an unconscious and random "nature" or "natural" selection is a fallacy.

Once you know that earth is at the centre of universe and there's composite steel dome above you're head all the lies stick out like a sore thumb, including the claim that man fell out of a monkey's ass and the universe came from a giant cosmic fart.

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Quote from: notbatman on November 04, 2019, 05:25:30 AM

Without the "missing links" the evolution of one spices into another is a faith based belief. Modern science (not the scientific method) is guilty of everything they accuse creationists of.

Evolution theory is propaganda and various institutions (Smithsonian, cantral banks, etc..) in cooperation and governments and churches work together to hide the existence of giants while manufacturing evidence and promoting myths such as dinosaurs.

Is it that you don't believe that natural selection happens, or that you don't believe it leads to evolution?

Missing link - there are plenty of known links though. Surely you don't expect every gap in the fossil record to be explained for every species back to the dawn of life on Earth?

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Without the "missing links" the evolution of one spices into another is a faith based belief. Modern science (not the scientific method) is guilty of everything they accuse creationists of.

Evolution theory is propaganda and various institutions (Smithsonian, cantral banks, etc..) in cooperation and governments and churches work together to hide the existence of giants while manufacturing evidence and promoting myths such as dinosaurs.

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Quote from: Ucy on November 04, 2019, 04:20:32 AM

Which is more evolved:
— Termite or monkey?
— Gorilla or Bee?
— Bird or horse?

There isn't a 'more evolved'. They have all been evolving continuously since life started on this planet. Evolution doesn't have an end state. Everything is still evolving right now.

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Quote from: Ucy on November 04, 2019, 04:13:44 AM

What do you say about the strongest beast sacrificing his life for the fleeing beasts?

I believe your country was built by the sacrifices of Patriots. Do you think the selflessness of the beast or patriot is stupidity? Do you think they are inferiors?

For the first point, kin selection. There's some fascinating information out there about evolution of social insects such as ants. It's all about passing on genetic information, which is not always the same as survival of yourself.

For the second point... What? My country was built up by geological sedimentation, and populated by successive waves of immigration over thousands of years. Patriot is a fluid and relative term. Seriously though, why would you compare reasoned human decision-making with blind undirected evolution? I'm not denying that humans are capable of acting based on their own decisions.

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Which is more evolved:
— Termite or monkey?
— Gorilla or Bee?
— Bird or horse?

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Quote from: styca on November 04, 2019, 02:24:47 AM

Quote from: BADecker on November 03, 2019, 04:17:41 PM

what we call evidence for evolution can easily fit like-begets like, simple change, and adaptation.

Evolution is a hoax.

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Quote from: BADecker on November 03, 2019, 09:01:21 PM

If "evolution" means simple change, or like begets like, or adaptation, then there is evolution all over the place.

Great, so we're agreed. That's what evolution is: like begets like, and adaptation.

Your children inherit 50% of your DNA and 50% of the other parent's DNA. Your children are like you.
Some people can naturally run faster than other people. Some wildebeest can naturally run faster than other wildebeest. If you have a herd of wildebeest with a lion or whatever chasing them, the lion catches the slower wildebeest. The faster ones survive and have children. The children inherit their parents DNA, and so are also faster than average. Over generations, the average speed increases. The species as a whole has adapted faster legs to survive lion attacks. No intelligent hand involved in the design, it just happens through natural selection.

Here's a catchy song about it.

What do you say about the strongest beast sacrificing his life for the fleeing beasts?

I believe your country was built by the sacrifices of Patriots. Do you think the selflessness of the beast or patriot is stupidity? Do you think they are inferiors?

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Quote from: BADecker on November 03, 2019, 04:17:41 PM

what we call evidence for evolution can easily fit like-begets like, simple change, and adaptation.

Evolution is a hoax.

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Quote from: BADecker on November 03, 2019, 09:01:21 PM

If "evolution" means simple change, or like begets like, or adaptation, then there is evolution all over the place.

Great, so we're agreed. That's what evolution is: like begets like, and adaptation.

Your children inherit 50% of your DNA and 50% of the other parent's DNA. Your children are like you.
Some people can naturally run faster than other people. Some wildebeest can naturally run faster than other wildebeest. If you have a herd of wildebeest with a lion or whatever chasing them, the lion catches the slower wildebeest. The faster ones survive and have children. The children inherit their parents DNA, and so are also faster than average. Over generations, the average speed increases. The species as a whole has adapted faster legs to survive lion attacks. No intelligent hand involved in the design, it just happens through natural selection.

Here's a catchy song about it.

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Quote from: franky1 on November 03, 2019, 08:50:37 PM

Quote from: BADecker on November 03, 2019, 04:17:41 PM

But the only written records we have of the prehistoric past says that God created things perfect

DNA is a biologically written record that shows humans dna contains elements of previous evolutions of animal

also hand written scripture wrote by mans hand using ink. is the thoughts, opinions of the writer.. millions of years AFTER the supposed 'god' event occured so it is not even a witness statement but just hearsay

But human DNA was made this way by God, in creation, so that mankind could naturally have authority over the animals. There wasn't any Evolution Theory Evolution (ETE).

If "evolution" means simple change, or like begets like, or adaptation, then there is evolution all over the place. Nobody has proven ETE. Mostly, ETE has been dissproven over and over as science finds one way or another that ETE doesn't exist in ways they had thought.

Keep trying. ETE just isn't there.

To prove ETE, science would have to go back into the past and track the DNA over periods of thousands of years in thousands or millions of species. DNA just doesn't exist from hundreds of thousands of years ago.

Evolution is a great big unknown. Evolution is a hoax.

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Quote from: BADecker on November 03, 2019, 04:17:41 PM

But the only written records we have of the prehistoric past says that God created things perfect

DNA is a biologically written record that shows humans dna contains elements of previous evolutions of animal

also hand written scripture wrote by mans hand using ink. is the thoughts, opinions of the writer.. millions of years AFTER the supposed 'god' event occured so it is not even a witness statement but just hearsay

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Quote from: styca on November 03, 2019, 03:52:47 AM

Quote from: BADecker on August 16, 2019, 10:11:15 PM

Evolution is a hoax.

Evolution is proven science, comprehensively proven.

Things didn't just spring into existence, perfectly made. Evolution isn't perfect, it just means good enough to survive. The deer whose legs give them slightly more speed than the rest of their herd will not get eaten. They will pass on their genes for faster legs to the next generation, etc etc.

Take eyes as an example. Human eyes are great, but they're not perfect. If they were designed by God, then God fucked up. Why do we have a blind spot? It's because the nerves are in front of the screen, so we need a gap in the screen so they can get signals to the brain. It's not perfect, but it's good enough, the problem isn't bad enough to affect our survival chances. Octopus eyes are much better - they evolved the right way around, with the nerves behind the screen.

Q) Why did God give octopuses correctly-designed eyes, but deliberately fucked up the human design?
A) He didn't. Not God, not design, just gradual evolution from one generation to the next over millions of years.

https://i.imgur.com/ZIvP4fI.jpg

But the only written records we have of the prehistoric past says that God created things perfect, and that a perfect angel willingly turned evil, and made the imperfections. All our scientific observations won't be accurate until we take this into account.

The more we grow in science, the more we move towards the God vs. Satan idea. Evolution is absolutely not proven, and what we call evidence for evolution can easily fit like-begets like, simple change, and adaptation.

Evolution is a hoax.

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I don't believe that humans evolved from apes but I do believe that evolution is real, just not the evolutionary story of humans, I believe that many animals has evolved certain traits to help the survival of their species, just watching Nat-Geo Wild would open your eyes to that fact, many bizarre characters and weapons that some animals display were not there from the beginning and they developed them to survive, for example there is a fish that learnt to survive both on land and on sea, evolution in action.

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Quote from: ridery99 on May 14, 2017, 10:38:55 AM

Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

I will explain my belief about it in a very layman way. Many eons back, few of the monkeys got the nudge to move from trees to grasslands in search of food, the basic need. On the way and during the course of many years, they formed groups, started communicating in sign language, discovered fire, learnt that cooked food gives more energy and is easy to chew , chipped stones to make elementary weapons and we had our ancestors. All the rest who were still on the trees are still eating bananas and eating lice.

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Quote from: BADecker on August 16, 2019, 10:11:15 PM

Evolution is a hoax.

Evolution is proven science, comprehensively proven.

Things didn't just spring into existence, perfectly made. Evolution isn't perfect, it just means good enough to survive. The deer whose legs give them slightly more speed than the rest of their herd will not get eaten. They will pass on their genes for faster legs to the next generation, etc etc.

Take eyes as an example. Human eyes are great, but they're not perfect. If they were designed by God, then God fucked up. Why do we have a blind spot? It's because the nerves are in front of the screen, so we need a gap in the screen so they can get signals to the brain. It's not perfect, but it's good enough, the problem isn't bad enough to affect our survival chances. Octopus eyes are much better - they evolved the right way around, with the nerves behind the screen.

Q) Why did God give octopuses correctly-designed eyes, but deliberately fucked up the human design?
A) He didn't. Not God, not design, just gradual evolution from one generation to the next over millions of years.

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Quote from: af_newbie on August 16, 2019, 09:55:01 PM

Every species on Earth share DNA. We share 26% of our DNA with single-cell organisms, 44% with bees, 50% with bananas, 99.6% with chimpanzees.

You did not study evolution at all. You cannot even ask the right questions. You have no idea what it is and why it is a fact.

But no DNA sequencing has been done over thousands of years, tracking the animals or plants, and their descendants, to know if the changes in DNA were evolution in form.

By the looks of like-begets-like, it would be more reasonable to assume that the varieties of plants and animals were started at the same time, and that no changes were made. We should be looking for the process that started them, rather than pursuing something as foolish as evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

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Quote from: BADecker on August 16, 2019, 08:16:16 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on August 16, 2019, 08:07:43 PM

Quote from: BADecker on August 16, 2019, 07:57:19 PM

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Quote from: BADecker on August 16, 2019, 04:24:27 PM

Since you can't prove any of what you are saying, and since there are all kinds of scientific contradictions to what you are saying, your ideals would be a religion, except that they are a cult the way you present them.

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Buy a clue. There is nothing to prove. It is a fact. End of story. The evidence is self-evident.

All you need is to study the existing evidence.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-creationist/

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_14

I agree, as do your websites. There is nothing to prove. Certainly not evolution.

All the evidence supports a whole line of things other than evolution. But none of it shows the DNA sequence needed to be proven over thousands of years to even suggest that such a thing as evolution could exist at all.

The clincher is cause and effect, which shows that everything is programmed. What does random in evolution show us? That we don't know.

When you search for reasons why evolution is impossible, you find way more solid things than anything that suggests evolution is possible.

Evolution is a hoax, and for you it is a cult.

Cool

What is impossible is making humans from dirt or rib bones. Talking snakes are impossible.

Japanese were making pottery before Adam and Eve ate the forbidden apple. LOL.

There are living trees that are older than the presumed Biblical global flood.

The stories in the Bible are physically not possible.

Even if these things are not possible^^, still no proof for evolution. Or show the DNA sequence in thousands of animal descendants that would be needed to prove evolution. Where is it?

The question isn't where we come from. The question is evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

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Every species on Earth share DNA. We share 26% of our DNA with single-cell organisms, 44% with bees, 50% with bananas, 99.6% with chimpanzees.

You did not study evolution at all. You cannot even ask the right questions. You have no idea what it is and why it is a fact.

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Quote from: af_newbie on August 16, 2019, 08:07:43 PM

Quote from: BADecker on August 16, 2019, 07:57:19 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on August 16, 2019, 07:34:50 PM

Quote from: BADecker on August 16, 2019, 04:24:27 PM

Since you can't prove any of what you are saying, and since there are all kinds of scientific contradictions to what you are saying, your ideals would be a religion, except that they are a cult the way you present them.

Cool

Buy a clue. There is nothing to prove. It is a fact. End of story. The evidence is self-evident.

All you need is to study the existing evidence.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-creationist/

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_14

I agree, as do your websites. There is nothing to prove. Certainly not evolution.

All the evidence supports a whole line of things other than evolution. But none of it shows the DNA sequence needed to be proven over thousands of years to even suggest that such a thing as evolution could exist at all.

The clincher is cause and effect, which shows that everything is programmed. What does random in evolution show us? That we don't know.

When you search for reasons why evolution is impossible, you find way more solid things than anything that suggests evolution is possible.

Evolution is a hoax, and for you it is a cult.

Cool

What is impossible is making humans from dirt or rib bones. Talking snakes are impossible.

Japanese were making pottery before Adam and Eve ate the forbidden apple. LOL.

There are living trees that are older than the presumed Biblical global flood.

The stories in the Bible are physically not possible.

Even if these things are not possible^^, still no proof for evolution. Or show the DNA sequence in thousands of animal descendants that would be needed to prove evolution. Where is it?

The question isn't where we come from. The question is evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

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Quote from: BADecker on August 16, 2019, 07:57:19 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on August 16, 2019, 07:34:50 PM

Quote from: BADecker on August 16, 2019, 04:24:27 PM

Since you can't prove any of what you are saying, and since there are all kinds of scientific contradictions to what you are saying, your ideals would be a religion, except that they are a cult the way you present them.

Cool

Buy a clue. There is nothing to prove. It is a fact. End of story. The evidence is self-evident.

All you need is to study the existing evidence.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-creationist/

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_14

I agree, as do your websites. There is nothing to prove. Certainly not evolution.

All the evidence supports a whole line of things other than evolution. But none of it shows the DNA sequence needed to be proven over thousands of years to even suggest that such a thing as evolution could exist at all.

The clincher is cause and effect, which shows that everything is programmed. What does random in evolution show us? That we don't know.

When you search for reasons why evolution is impossible, you find way more solid things than anything that suggests evolution is possible.

Evolution is a hoax, and for you it is a cult.

Cool

What is impossible is making humans from dirt or rib bones. Talking snakes are impossible.

Japanese were making pottery before Adam and Eve ate the forbidden apple. LOL.

There are living trees that are older than the presumed Biblical global flood.

The stories in the Bible are physically not possible.

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Quote from: af_newbie on August 16, 2019, 07:34:50 PM

Quote from: BADecker on August 16, 2019, 04:24:27 PM

Since you can't prove any of what you are saying, and since there are all kinds of scientific contradictions to what you are saying, your ideals would be a religion, except that they are a cult the way you present them.

Cool

Buy a clue. There is nothing to prove. It is a fact. End of story. The evidence is self-evident.

All you need is to study the existing evidence.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-creationist/

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_14

I agree, as do your websites. There is nothing to prove. Certainly not evolution.

All the evidence supports a whole line of things other than evolution. But none of it shows the DNA sequence needed to be proven over thousands of years to even suggest that such a thing as evolution could exist at all.

The clincher is cause and effect, which shows that everything is programmed. What does random in evolution show us? That we don't know.

When you search for reasons why evolution is impossible, you find way more solid things than anything that suggests evolution is possible.

Evolution is a hoax, and for you it is a cult.

Cool

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