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July 02, 2017, 05:02:44 PM
I think is enough to not believe in Evolution theory when they brought up the so called "neandertal man" who killed himself after these so called peaceful evolutionists put him in a cage.

Even scientists are turning against this stupid theory which has no foundations.

https://www.ecclesia.org/truth/deception.html

I see a lot of replies and people protecting evolution in a fanatic way here, do not think I have the time to reply to such persons.

This whole evolution theory says alot of things and doesnt have the facts to back them up, they don't have the data to prove anything and they may eventually need a time machine to clear everything up.

Uhm, what? Have you even studied anything about evolution to say that? It amazes me how 99.9% of people that say evolution is a lie are people who actually haven't studied evolution or anything close to it like biology, etc. Fossils, DNA and even direct observation, we can directly observe small-scale evolution in organisms with short life cycles (e.g., pesticide-resistant insects). That's not evidence to you?
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July 02, 2017, 01:30:59 PM
I think is enough to not believe in Evolution theory when they brought up the so called "neandertal man" who killed himself after these so called peaceful evolutionists put him in a cage.

Even scientists are turning against this stupid theory which has no foundations.

https://www.ecclesia.org/truth/deception.html

I see a lot of replies and people protecting evolution in a fanatic way here, do not think I have the time to reply to such persons.

This whole evolution theory says alot of things and doesnt have the facts to back them up, they don't have the data to prove anything and they may eventually need a time machine to clear everything up.
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July 02, 2017, 01:12:36 PM
I think is enough to not believe in Evolution theory when they brought up the so called "neandertal man" who killed himself after these so called peaceful evolutionists put him in a cage.

Even scientists are turning against this stupid theory which has no foundations.

https://www.ecclesia.org/truth/deception.html

I see a lot of replies and people protecting evolution in a fanatic way here, do not think I have the time to reply to such persons.
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July 02, 2017, 10:41:53 AM
But are there any real prerequisites for thinking about the fact that humanity was formed in some other way and not as a result of evolution? Of course, this issue requires very much study, after the Darwin theory the group tolerated ridicule.
What's the evolution? I also doubt that humans descended from apes, but that does not mean that nature does not adapt to the conditions of life and the laws of evolution do not apply. I have to say that I don't believe in God and therefore I do not think that man created them. It's just a separate species, and scientists do not know yet the history of its origin. Maybe we are descendants of aliens.
I, too, think that we are no monkeys, and all the more not Guinea-pigs. The fact is that there are so many versions that humanity originated from those people who came from other planets to our Earth because of the wreck of the spacecraft. Perhaps it really happened hundreds of thousands of years ago. And here evolution has nothing to do with it.
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July 02, 2017, 09:49:24 AM
But are there any real prerequisites for thinking about the fact that humanity was formed in some other way and not as a result of evolution? Of course, this issue requires very much study, after the Darwin theory the group tolerated ridicule.
What's the evolution? I also doubt that humans descended from apes, but that does not mean that nature does not adapt to the conditions of life and the laws of evolution do not apply. I have to say that I don't believe in God and therefore I do not think that man created them. It's just a separate species, and scientists do not know yet the history of its origin. Maybe we are descendants of aliens.
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July 01, 2017, 05:21:50 PM

Then again you can't say that everything has a cause right now because we don't know that. Also by cause you are referring to a God or a creator when you talked about everything being programmed which we have no evidence for. Things have causes but they are not programmed. A volcano eruption has a cause: As rock inside the earth melts, its mass remains the same while its volume increases--producing a melt that is less dense than the surrounding rock. This lighter magma then rises toward the surface by virtue of its buoyancy. If the density of the magma between the zone of its generation and the surface is less than that of the surrounding and overlying rocks, the magma reaches the surface and erupts. Now you can't prove that, that was programmed in.

You can't say anything that makes any sense.

Cause and effect is all we see in the universe. We don't see any pure random. The countless numbes of cause and effect actions compared with the pure random actions, places the odds so great agaisnt anything other than cause and effect that science would say that pure random is impossible.

Cause and effect is essentially programming, since entropy shows that there is a beginning. Something had to get cause and effect going according to the laws of physics, as it is today. Nothing breaks the cause and effect physics. It is all programming.

The idea of evolution relies on some pure random effect taking place. None has ever been observed. But countless trillions upon trillions of cause and effect actions have been observed, all operating according to the set laws of physics. Evolution is a pure hoax.

Cool

Nah, what odds? We don't know almost anything about the universe, we explored, what? like 0.00000001% of the universe? So what if the things you see here have a cause, it means nothing, so many other things could have no cause like i said many times, radioactive decay seems to be one of them.

You are finally beginning to see how ridiculous the idea of evolution is.

Cool
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July 01, 2017, 03:21:26 PM
But are there any real prerequisites for thinking about the fact that humanity was formed in some other way and not as a result of evolution? Of course, this issue requires very much study, after the Darwin theory the group tolerated ridicule.
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July 01, 2017, 02:43:58 PM

Then again you can't say that everything has a cause right now because we don't know that. Also by cause you are referring to a God or a creator when you talked about everything being programmed which we have no evidence for. Things have causes but they are not programmed. A volcano eruption has a cause: As rock inside the earth melts, its mass remains the same while its volume increases--producing a melt that is less dense than the surrounding rock. This lighter magma then rises toward the surface by virtue of its buoyancy. If the density of the magma between the zone of its generation and the surface is less than that of the surrounding and overlying rocks, the magma reaches the surface and erupts. Now you can't prove that, that was programmed in.

You can't say anything that makes any sense.

Cause and effect is all we see in the universe. We don't see any pure random. The countless numbes of cause and effect actions compared with the pure random actions, places the odds so great agaisnt anything other than cause and effect that science would say that pure random is impossible.

Cause and effect is essentially programming, since entropy shows that there is a beginning. Something had to get cause and effect going according to the laws of physics, as it is today. Nothing breaks the cause and effect physics. It is all programming.

The idea of evolution relies on some pure random effect taking place. None has ever been observed. But countless trillions upon trillions of cause and effect actions have been observed, all operating according to the set laws of physics. Evolution is a pure hoax.

Cool

Nah, what odds? We don't know almost anything about the universe, we explored, what? like 0.00000001% of the universe? So what if the things you see here have a cause, it means nothing, so many other things could have no cause like i said many times, radioactive decay seems to be one of them.
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July 01, 2017, 02:21:35 PM

Then again you can't say that everything has a cause right now because we don't know that. Also by cause you are referring to a God or a creator when you talked about everything being programmed which we have no evidence for. Things have causes but they are not programmed. A volcano eruption has a cause: As rock inside the earth melts, its mass remains the same while its volume increases--producing a melt that is less dense than the surrounding rock. This lighter magma then rises toward the surface by virtue of its buoyancy. If the density of the magma between the zone of its generation and the surface is less than that of the surrounding and overlying rocks, the magma reaches the surface and erupts. Now you can't prove that, that was programmed in.

You can't say anything that makes any sense.

Cause and effect is all we see in the universe. We don't see any pure random. The countless numbes of cause and effect actions compared with the pure random actions, places the odds so great agaisnt anything other than cause and effect that science would say that pure random is impossible.

Cause and effect is essentially programming, since entropy shows that there is a beginning. Something had to get cause and effect going according to the laws of physics, as it is today. Nothing breaks the cause and effect physics. It is all programming.

The idea of evolution relies on some pure random effect taking place. None has ever been observed. But countless trillions upon trillions of cause and effect actions have been observed, all operating according to the set laws of physics. Evolution is a pure hoax.

Cool
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July 01, 2017, 01:53:20 PM

Cause and effect is meaningless.
Your statement is meaningless.


If everything must have a cause, then what caused God? The counter-arguement to that is that God is an exceptional being that doesn't need a cause.
God is not a thing.


But if there can be something without a cause, why does the exceptional being have to be labeled God?
No need for a label. Just another method for identifying in our puny minds.


We can use the same argument to say that the Earth is an exceptional thing that, just like your conception of "God", also doesn't need a creator.
Earth is not God. Same argument doesn't fit.


There is no reason for us to believe that this universe had a beginning, and therefore was created by anything.
If there was no beginning to the universe, entropy would have reduced all complexity to an equal state of simplicity throughout the universe long ago.


There is evidence of things being created, sure, we have humans and some animals using tools to make artifacts. From this you jump to 'everything is created'? How, exactly?
Are you talking about the fact that the universe is a big machine filled with numerous smaller machines? Machines have makers. The intelligently made, ultra complex, machines of the universe have a Maker, as well. However, before something exists, there is nothing to make anything out of. This shows that at least the foundations of the universe were created.



Everything I see and experience hasn't been created, it has been altered, grown, rearranged, spun, settled, and transformed.

How do you know or prove that anything was ever created, as opposed to things simply changing shapes and forms eternally?
We have never found anything that does not have a cause. Nothing. Nada. Zip. We may not know what the cause is for some things, but even the idea of something existing without a cause, does not fit how the universe works. In fact, for many years, many scientists have been searching for something that exists without a cause. They simply won't accept that the ignorant among us have found such. It is God.



For example, can you prove that the earth was ever truly created as opposed to it simply being a large space rock that was pulled into the sun's orbit, and then sculpted by solar wind and meteorites into the shape it currently has?


The fact that all material has a beginning shows that there at least was creation of that which ultimately became the material of the earth.

Why are you so dead set against God? Everything shows that God exists. Live with it. You will only wind up destroying yourself if you fight it.

Cool

Like what machines? And why is the universe a big ''machine''? You also don't know everything that is in the universe and whether it had a cause or not so you can't say everything has a cause because we haven't found something without one, which btw physicists did find, radioactive decay.

Not everyone thinks that radioactive decay isn't a cause and effect thing. Actually it is.

All there is in the universe are machines. Take your pick. A rock is an example of cause and effect machines on the atomic or molecular level.

While nobody knows everything that is in the universe, there is no evidence of universal operation which does not use cause and effect. The universe is one. If it happens here, it happens throughout.

Cool

There is also no evidence that everything needs a cause so again, cause and effect is meaningless

You are missing so extremely much.

Only the things that we don't know the cause of might not need a cause, at least until we find the cause.

Since we know the cause of many things, and since everything that is common among us has a cause, and since there is nothing that we know of that for a fact does NOT have a cause, cause and effect are foundational.

Of course, I know that you know better than the things that you say. So, thanks for helping me get the point across that evolution is a hoax, just by bringing up your silliness that is easily explained away.

Cool

Then again you can't say that everything has a cause right now because we don't know that. Also by cause you are referring to a God or a creator when you talked about everything being programmed which we have no evidence for. Things have causes but they are not programmed. A volcano eruption has a cause: As rock inside the earth melts, its mass remains the same while its volume increases--producing a melt that is less dense than the surrounding rock. This lighter magma then rises toward the surface by virtue of its buoyancy. If the density of the magma between the zone of its generation and the surface is less than that of the surrounding and overlying rocks, the magma reaches the surface and erupts. Now you can't prove that, that was programmed in.
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July 01, 2017, 10:57:17 AM

Cause and effect is meaningless.
Your statement is meaningless.


If everything must have a cause, then what caused God? The counter-arguement to that is that God is an exceptional being that doesn't need a cause.
God is not a thing.


But if there can be something without a cause, why does the exceptional being have to be labeled God?
No need for a label. Just another method for identifying in our puny minds.


We can use the same argument to say that the Earth is an exceptional thing that, just like your conception of "God", also doesn't need a creator.
Earth is not God. Same argument doesn't fit.


There is no reason for us to believe that this universe had a beginning, and therefore was created by anything.
If there was no beginning to the universe, entropy would have reduced all complexity to an equal state of simplicity throughout the universe long ago.


There is evidence of things being created, sure, we have humans and some animals using tools to make artifacts. From this you jump to 'everything is created'? How, exactly?
Are you talking about the fact that the universe is a big machine filled with numerous smaller machines? Machines have makers. The intelligently made, ultra complex, machines of the universe have a Maker, as well. However, before something exists, there is nothing to make anything out of. This shows that at least the foundations of the universe were created.



Everything I see and experience hasn't been created, it has been altered, grown, rearranged, spun, settled, and transformed.

How do you know or prove that anything was ever created, as opposed to things simply changing shapes and forms eternally?
We have never found anything that does not have a cause. Nothing. Nada. Zip. We may not know what the cause is for some things, but even the idea of something existing without a cause, does not fit how the universe works. In fact, for many years, many scientists have been searching for something that exists without a cause. They simply won't accept that the ignorant among us have found such. It is God.



For example, can you prove that the earth was ever truly created as opposed to it simply being a large space rock that was pulled into the sun's orbit, and then sculpted by solar wind and meteorites into the shape it currently has?


The fact that all material has a beginning shows that there at least was creation of that which ultimately became the material of the earth.

Why are you so dead set against God? Everything shows that God exists. Live with it. You will only wind up destroying yourself if you fight it.

Cool

Like what machines? And why is the universe a big ''machine''? You also don't know everything that is in the universe and whether it had a cause or not so you can't say everything has a cause because we haven't found something without one, which btw physicists did find, radioactive decay.

Not everyone thinks that radioactive decay isn't a cause and effect thing. Actually it is.

All there is in the universe are machines. Take your pick. A rock is an example of cause and effect machines on the atomic or molecular level.

While nobody knows everything that is in the universe, there is no evidence of universal operation which does not use cause and effect. The universe is one. If it happens here, it happens throughout.

Cool

There is also no evidence that everything needs a cause so again, cause and effect is meaningless

You are missing so extremely much.

Only the things that we don't know the cause of might not need a cause, at least until we find the cause.

Since we know the cause of many things, and since everything that is common among us has a cause, and since there is nothing that we know of that for a fact does NOT have a cause, cause and effect are foundational.

Of course, I know that you know better than the things that you say. So, thanks for helping me get the point across that evolution is a hoax, just by bringing up your silliness that is easily explained away.

Cool
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July 01, 2017, 10:34:36 AM

Cause and effect is meaningless.
Your statement is meaningless.


If everything must have a cause, then what caused God? The counter-arguement to that is that God is an exceptional being that doesn't need a cause.
God is not a thing.


But if there can be something without a cause, why does the exceptional being have to be labeled God?
No need for a label. Just another method for identifying in our puny minds.


We can use the same argument to say that the Earth is an exceptional thing that, just like your conception of "God", also doesn't need a creator.
Earth is not God. Same argument doesn't fit.


There is no reason for us to believe that this universe had a beginning, and therefore was created by anything.
If there was no beginning to the universe, entropy would have reduced all complexity to an equal state of simplicity throughout the universe long ago.


There is evidence of things being created, sure, we have humans and some animals using tools to make artifacts. From this you jump to 'everything is created'? How, exactly?
Are you talking about the fact that the universe is a big machine filled with numerous smaller machines? Machines have makers. The intelligently made, ultra complex, machines of the universe have a Maker, as well. However, before something exists, there is nothing to make anything out of. This shows that at least the foundations of the universe were created.



Everything I see and experience hasn't been created, it has been altered, grown, rearranged, spun, settled, and transformed.

How do you know or prove that anything was ever created, as opposed to things simply changing shapes and forms eternally?
We have never found anything that does not have a cause. Nothing. Nada. Zip. We may not know what the cause is for some things, but even the idea of something existing without a cause, does not fit how the universe works. In fact, for many years, many scientists have been searching for something that exists without a cause. They simply won't accept that the ignorant among us have found such. It is God.



For example, can you prove that the earth was ever truly created as opposed to it simply being a large space rock that was pulled into the sun's orbit, and then sculpted by solar wind and meteorites into the shape it currently has?


The fact that all material has a beginning shows that there at least was creation of that which ultimately became the material of the earth.

Why are you so dead set against God? Everything shows that God exists. Live with it. You will only wind up destroying yourself if you fight it.

Cool

Like what machines? And why is the universe a big ''machine''? You also don't know everything that is in the universe and whether it had a cause or not so you can't say everything has a cause because we haven't found something without one, which btw physicists did find, radioactive decay.

Not everyone thinks that radioactive decay isn't a cause and effect thing. Actually it is.

All there is in the universe are machines. Take your pick. A rock is an example of cause and effect machines on the atomic or molecular level.

While nobody knows everything that is in the universe, there is no evidence of universal operation which does not use cause and effect. The universe is one. If it happens here, it happens throughout.

Cool

There is also no evidence that everything needs a cause so again, cause and effect is meaningless
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July 01, 2017, 06:02:17 AM

Cause and effect is meaningless.
Your statement is meaningless.


If everything must have a cause, then what caused God? The counter-arguement to that is that God is an exceptional being that doesn't need a cause.
God is not a thing.


But if there can be something without a cause, why does the exceptional being have to be labeled God?
No need for a label. Just another method for identifying in our puny minds.


We can use the same argument to say that the Earth is an exceptional thing that, just like your conception of "God", also doesn't need a creator.
Earth is not God. Same argument doesn't fit.


There is no reason for us to believe that this universe had a beginning, and therefore was created by anything.
If there was no beginning to the universe, entropy would have reduced all complexity to an equal state of simplicity throughout the universe long ago.


There is evidence of things being created, sure, we have humans and some animals using tools to make artifacts. From this you jump to 'everything is created'? How, exactly?
Are you talking about the fact that the universe is a big machine filled with numerous smaller machines? Machines have makers. The intelligently made, ultra complex, machines of the universe have a Maker, as well. However, before something exists, there is nothing to make anything out of. This shows that at least the foundations of the universe were created.



Everything I see and experience hasn't been created, it has been altered, grown, rearranged, spun, settled, and transformed.

How do you know or prove that anything was ever created, as opposed to things simply changing shapes and forms eternally?
We have never found anything that does not have a cause. Nothing. Nada. Zip. We may not know what the cause is for some things, but even the idea of something existing without a cause, does not fit how the universe works. In fact, for many years, many scientists have been searching for something that exists without a cause. They simply won't accept that the ignorant among us have found such. It is God.



For example, can you prove that the earth was ever truly created as opposed to it simply being a large space rock that was pulled into the sun's orbit, and then sculpted by solar wind and meteorites into the shape it currently has?


The fact that all material has a beginning shows that there at least was creation of that which ultimately became the material of the earth.

Why are you so dead set against God? Everything shows that God exists. Live with it. You will only wind up destroying yourself if you fight it.

Cool

Like what machines? And why is the universe a big ''machine''? You also don't know everything that is in the universe and whether it had a cause or not so you can't say everything has a cause because we haven't found something without one, which btw physicists did find, radioactive decay.

Not everyone thinks that radioactive decay isn't a cause and effect thing. Actually it is.

All there is in the universe are machines. Take your pick. A rock is an example of cause and effect machines on the atomic or molecular level.

While nobody knows everything that is in the universe, there is no evidence of universal operation which does not use cause and effect. The universe is one. If it happens here, it happens throughout.

Cool
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July 01, 2017, 05:40:48 AM

Cause and effect is meaningless.
Your statement is meaningless.


If everything must have a cause, then what caused God? The counter-arguement to that is that God is an exceptional being that doesn't need a cause.
God is not a thing.


But if there can be something without a cause, why does the exceptional being have to be labeled God?
No need for a label. Just another method for identifying in our puny minds.


We can use the same argument to say that the Earth is an exceptional thing that, just like your conception of "God", also doesn't need a creator.
Earth is not God. Same argument doesn't fit.


There is no reason for us to believe that this universe had a beginning, and therefore was created by anything.
If there was no beginning to the universe, entropy would have reduced all complexity to an equal state of simplicity throughout the universe long ago.


There is evidence of things being created, sure, we have humans and some animals using tools to make artifacts. From this you jump to 'everything is created'? How, exactly?
Are you talking about the fact that the universe is a big machine filled with numerous smaller machines? Machines have makers. The intelligently made, ultra complex, machines of the universe have a Maker, as well. However, before something exists, there is nothing to make anything out of. This shows that at least the foundations of the universe were created.



Everything I see and experience hasn't been created, it has been altered, grown, rearranged, spun, settled, and transformed.

How do you know or prove that anything was ever created, as opposed to things simply changing shapes and forms eternally?
We have never found anything that does not have a cause. Nothing. Nada. Zip. We may not know what the cause is for some things, but even the idea of something existing without a cause, does not fit how the universe works. In fact, for many years, many scientists have been searching for something that exists without a cause. They simply won't accept that the ignorant among us have found such. It is God.



For example, can you prove that the earth was ever truly created as opposed to it simply being a large space rock that was pulled into the sun's orbit, and then sculpted by solar wind and meteorites into the shape it currently has?


The fact that all material has a beginning shows that there at least was creation of that which ultimately became the material of the earth.

Why are you so dead set against God? Everything shows that God exists. Live with it. You will only wind up destroying yourself if you fight it.

Cool

Like what machines? And why is the universe a big ''machine''? You also don't know everything that is in the universe and whether it had a cause or not so you can't say everything has a cause because we haven't found something without one, which btw physicists did find, radioactive decay.
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June 30, 2017, 11:16:33 PM
I very much understand this fact that several aspects of the revolution in the sense in which we know very much do not fit the current situation. I'm not talking about the idea that people are leaving monkeys. This is of course nonsense, although there is some logic in this. To date, there are so many opportunities to prove that a person is generally a guest on this planet.

Evolution was the revolution.     Grin


EDIT: I like those old Tarzan movies. And Jungle Jim's pet, Judy.
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June 30, 2017, 11:07:41 PM
I very much understand this fact that several aspects of the revolution in the sense in which we know very much do not fit the current situation. I'm not talking about the idea that people are leaving monkeys. This is of course nonsense, although there is some logic in this. To date, there are so many opportunities to prove that a person is generally a guest on this planet.
legendary
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June 30, 2017, 08:38:53 PM

Cause and effect is meaningless.
Your statement is meaningless.


If everything must have a cause, then what caused God? The counter-arguement to that is that God is an exceptional being that doesn't need a cause.
God is not a thing.


But if there can be something without a cause, why does the exceptional being have to be labeled God?
No need for a label. Just another method for identifying in our puny minds.


We can use the same argument to say that the Earth is an exceptional thing that, just like your conception of "God", also doesn't need a creator.
Earth is not God. Same argument doesn't fit.


There is no reason for us to believe that this universe had a beginning, and therefore was created by anything.
If there was no beginning to the universe, entropy would have reduced all complexity to an equal state of simplicity throughout the universe long ago.


There is evidence of things being created, sure, we have humans and some animals using tools to make artifacts. From this you jump to 'everything is created'? How, exactly?
Are you talking about the fact that the universe is a big machine filled with numerous smaller machines? Machines have makers. The intelligently made, ultra complex, machines of the universe have a Maker, as well. However, before something exists, there is nothing to make anything out of. This shows that at least the foundations of the universe were created.



Everything I see and experience hasn't been created, it has been altered, grown, rearranged, spun, settled, and transformed.

How do you know or prove that anything was ever created, as opposed to things simply changing shapes and forms eternally?
We have never found anything that does not have a cause. Nothing. Nada. Zip. We may not know what the cause is for some things, but even the idea of something existing without a cause, does not fit how the universe works. In fact, for many years, many scientists have been searching for something that exists without a cause. They simply won't accept that the ignorant among us have found such. It is God.



For example, can you prove that the earth was ever truly created as opposed to it simply being a large space rock that was pulled into the sun's orbit, and then sculpted by solar wind and meteorites into the shape it currently has?


The fact that all material has a beginning shows that there at least was creation of that which ultimately became the material of the earth.

Why are you so dead set against God? Everything shows that God exists. Live with it. You will only wind up destroying yourself if you fight it.

Cool
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June 30, 2017, 07:08:21 PM
I see everyone lived since the very first of "the creation". I'll just simply say evolution exists, but human evolution is not completely known.
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