Topic: Evolution is a hoax - page 92. (Read 108165 times)

Why people that know nothing about evolution think they can come to a forum and explain to us how evolution is not real? Shouldn't you go publish a paper dismissing evolution? Why do you think 99.99% of the scientific community agrees that evolution is a fact? You think you are smarter than them because you read a few religious articles about evolution? What makes you think you you would even understand the evidence for it if you never studied about it?

Yeah. True. Religious people lie. Bible don't as far as I am aware.


Well... No. Actually the staging of the crime scene is a very weak empirical evidence, but evidence none the less if it is enacted with the logical framework of other clues. Noone had staged the evolution. Find another similiarities.


No. Not most of them. You lie. The data shows something close to 50% depending on religion. I have nothing to do with them. Why do you compare me with them? That is not an argument.

I have told you. There are a lot of atheist that deny evolution. And I was one of them.

You make yet another logical fallacy - now using the error of equivocation.


Good that you have pointed that out - in my real life I have not seen evolution, nor anyone for that matter. So yeah.... who is detached from reality here?


Like what evidence? I have just told you noone had ever made a new specie, and by specie I mean the new speciment that cannot interbreed with any other speciments of the same specie, but can interbreed with the similiar speciments.

AND THAT IS THE EVOLUTION.

''I have not claimed I saw God either. I am only convinced based on how everything is constructed, how life works, and how everything interact with eachother. It is a waaaaaay smarter guess than the evolution if you find out the evolutionists lie and cheat.''

Religious people lie and cheat too, all the indirect evidence for evolution is more than enough for scientists to conclude evolution is a fact. Even if there weren't any cases of observed evolution, which there are, evolution would still be true.

''Noone has ever seen evolution in action'' No one has ever seen plenty of things in action, we wouldn't have homicides detectives if you always had to observe someone killing another person, yet they are still able to identify the killer based on evidence just like scientists are able to conclude that evolution exists based on the VAST evidence out there. Most religious people actually agree that evolution is real, only a few radicals like you or badecker are against it in 2018. Good luck in real life dude.

Nope. Noone had ever seen even in the thousands of years the appearance of any new specie anywhere on earth. What we could see is the natural selection. Yes that exist. One specie can die, and the other can adapt but still is a specie of that kind - it can breed with the the same speciments. It all comes to a taxonomy. Nowadays "evolutionists" call subspecies a new specie. There is no reason to have a subspecie taxonomy if a two speciments of subspecie can interbreed - it is still a specie. Lion is still a cat, tiger is still a cat and cat is still a cat, they all can interbreed. There is an urban legend that those species are infertile, it was proven to be false.

There are some rare instances of partial infertility proven scientificly within the so called ring species. But it is nowhere near to prove that a cat is not cat anymore for example.

Noone has ever seen evolution in action, only so called adaption and natural selection. Noone. So logical conclusion must be that it must take more than thounsands of years - millions.

That is not science. Sorry. You just can not assume something has happened because it is possible. Someone will say - hey the God theory is not a science as well. I agree. Both are not science. Period. However one or another would try, it is imposible to say you have seen something when you have not. Period.

I have not claimed I saw God either. I am only convinced based on how everything is constructed, how life works, and how everything interact with eachother. It is a waaaaaay smarter guess than the evolution if you find out the evolutionists lie and cheat.

Where are those "ape-like" ancestors? None were found. Why do people say that they saw things that they did not? It is called a patological lies, and definatly not a science.

By the way. Evolutionists love the argument that if you do not believe in evolution you must think that God had made it. No way......... There are a lot of people that say the evolution is a lie, and they are 100% atheists. I was one of such a guy. It is just easier to believe in God if you do not believe your fellow human liars, thats all. They throw a stumbling block on you.

Those kind of proponents of evolution think that when they promote their point of view they are opposed by the God. NO! They are opposed by the truth. And it so happens to be that the God is on the truth side 100% times. Coincidence?

It just proves the words of the Jesus - Know the truth and truth will set you free. What truth? That we are an apes? To the contrary - that we are not. We are a children of God.

There are a lot of people that are just afraid of freedom. They like their little confinement. Ok. Let them be. I do not mind their choices. Just do not claim your lack of perspective is the whole picture.

Evolution is a process where species change and adapt for them to be able to survive. Evolution is a long process, it could take hundreds of years, centuries, or even thousands of years. Also, the scientific theory of the evolution of man does not specifically mentioned monkeys; it only mentioned that man came from "ape-like" ancestors. In addition to that, to support my above mentioned statement, according to my research, the whole process of the evolution of man took about over a period of approximately millions of years.

Yes, how could monkeys be still present if they have evolved? There are really similarities but it does not mean that they are products of evolution. But I do believe that they live similarly made creations of a supreme being. Some are mistakes of nature, propably during the transfer of genes to another offspring where they appear erroneous and resulted in a different looking offspring like for example a lizard that is born looking like a snake.

Some people who had heard “theory evolution” or “Darwinisme”  that the concepts is only related to the study biology and don’t affect one bit against everyday life. The presumption is very wrong because of this theory was more than just the concept of biology. The theory evolution has become the foundations a philosophy fancies most of the human.

You and your misquotes. C&E does not necessarily apply to God. We don't know for a fact. God is extremely beyond our thought processes; we can't understand anything about Him except that He tells us.

The whole basic format for all scientific research is about finding C&E. The individual scientist may not know it, but his supporting university or corporation is looking for C&E just so that they might finally have some possible way of proving evolution.

Anything that is an effect and has a cause IS programming. Programming means that pure random doesn't have anything to do with it.

Thanks for confirming the things that I have been saying, both about you and about evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

Again with your crap? ''if you think that C&E doesn't exist somewhere, prove it.'' You claimed that C&E doesn't apply to god, I don't need to prove anything, you just keep contradicting yourself.

''Scientists have been trying to find non-C&E actions or operations for years. They haven't come close.'' They really haven't, there is no research to find ''non C&E actions''

''Because C&E means that there is no pure random.'' Actually it only means that anything that has an effect also has a cause.

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Great post.

The history proves you and your meme is just wrong. Puritans like I. Newton (modern physics) and F. Bacon (modern scientific theory) were absolutely convinced that God had did it all and yet they still wanted to know how he made it.

So if you believe in God, it does not imply that you are not curious - how he made it all.

On the other hand, if you are not curious how evolution works (like most of the people), but you are convinced it is true becuase someone had said so - you are beyond help.


It is easy. The date of fossils are dated based on the geological layer dating. It is one assumption based on another assumptions. Why noone would double check those assumptions? Because one is from the biology departament, and the other is geological. One and the other believes the other is right because they have to believe it because most biologist have no clue about geology and most geologist have no clue about biology. Those biologists who know geology will not get the review because there are not enough specialists to review them.

Even if some people have doubts, they are not the ones that teach the students on the universities, because most of the time it is the dumbest people. that can't find another job teaches on the universities, and dumb people are not thinking much. They believe they are very smart and privileged to teach.

You might say - it's impossible... Nah. Sadly it is possible. It is even more so. It is a reality.

Change exists. In that sense, evolution exists. That's all.

There is no proof that evolution theory type of evolution exists.

The foundational proof that evolution theory type of evolution doesn't exist is, cause and effect exists in everything. However, if you think that C&E doesn't exist somewhere, prove it. And then prove that it has anything to do with evolution.

Scientists have been trying to find non-C&E actions or operations for years. They haven't come close.

Why does C&E affect evolution theory? Because C&E means that there is no pure random. Everything acts like it has been programmed. This is not what evolution theory says.

Evolution is a complete hoax, and it is you who are the liar because you know this.

Nah, you are just like notbatman, a liar. I posted examples of evolution and you simply said ''All those are examples of evolution points that have been disproven or dropped for lack of real evidence '' Rofl. You don't even have an argument anymore.

It's so easy to post that any evidence for evolution has been "proven" (without backing it up with facts), yet you continue pushing your evolution fantasy.

The same way he "explains" everything else.  With his belief system - no facts.

It works well when he is talking to himself - it only breaks down when he tries to explain it to others.  :/

SO easy to post that any evidence for evolution has been "disproven" (without backing it up with facts), yet you continue pushing your god fantasy.  :/

All those are examples of evolution points that have been disproven or dropped for lack of real evidence as being part of evolution. If you believe them to be true, evolution is at least part of your personal religion.



EDIT: All of the popular science fiction stories have potentially truthful information and science in them. Some of these stories use actual science to make the story seem real. Yet, the story never happened. If it had, it would be science documentary rather than science fiction.

The only reason evolution theory remains is, it has become a popular theory. It never happened. If it had, there would be some scientists that could point to actual, factual happenings that show that evolution happened or is happening. So far, none of the actual factual happenings can factually be attributed to evolution. Why not? Because they fit adaptation or creation better and easier than they fit evolution.

''Evolution is change in the heritable characteristics of biological populations over successive generations.''

There is a species of fish currently in the process of becoming two separate species. There are multiple species of fish which have evolved to tolerate short periods on land.

''Simple adaptation. Not evolution in the sense of evolution theory.'' This is exactly evolution in the sense of evolution theory. Becoming a new species is not adaptation.

''There is a species of mini horse on an island off America's east coast which genetic testing shows evolved from European stock. (From survivors of a ship wreck.)

In the last 10,400 years evolution has produced a mutation in humans called lactase persistence. Some 90% of adult humans continue to produce this enzyme essential to digesting milk sugar.

And then there are genetic throwbacks who exhibit atavistic characteristics not seen in species for thousands or even millions of years. The webbing between human fingers is generally vestigial, but in some people it is pronounced enough that they may opt for surgical reduction. And others have more than the usual compliment of nipples, and even breasts.''


All of those are also examples of evolution in the sense of evolution theory.

That's right sir there is no evidence to prove that because it is an theories, but there's a big chance that is theory is true. but for me I don't believe it is true facts.

And now you are finally taking us all the way.

Evolution and change have always been synonymous. But, they have been synonymous with the simple meanings of change. Evolution as change has never been synonymous with evolution theory.

Over the years, science findings have destroyed evolution theory point by point by point. As evolution theory has changed, there is nowhere else for it to go other than to become simple or adaptive change. Finally evolution theory has come full circle. Evolution is change. But that change is neither according to evolution theory, nor to the origins suggested by evolution theory.

It's time for you to wake up and understand what evolution theory really is, and where it comes from and why. It is faith in something so tenuous that it doesn't really exist in reality. Evolution is essentially like a religion. It is a hocus pocus. It is a digging around after ancient bones like they have any kind of meaning for living man. It is becoming like a shaman teaching.

Check, again, https://answersingenesis.org/public-school/religion-in-schools/the-religion-of-evolution/. Look at the evolution believers words in that link, and see what they are saying. Then go on to see that all the basic evolution scientists understand the same thing... that evolution is something that has at best vague evidence, and no fact... no fact other than change and adaptation.

Evolution is a hoax. But worse than that, it is a religion that is becoming akin to the black arts.