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Topic: Explosive devices sent to Bill/Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, George Soros, CNN - page 5. (Read 7327 times)

legendary
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Tbh, I don't think this matters much politically, despite all the hot air. This might swing a few conservative moderates and undecideds, but Trump's base is Trump's base. They do not perceive the rhetorical environment the President has fostered, and don't understand the constant attacks on Trump from liberal media. So any political coin gained is useless to spend.
What about the rhetoric by the likes of Maxine Waters, Corey Booker, Hillary Clinton, Eric Holder and others? Sometimes explicitly calling for violence and in others implicitly calling for violence. How do you feel about liberal Mayors ordering police to stand down for political purposes, resulting in danger to many innocent lives? What about either condoning or ignoring violence when it happens?

All that is okay, right? The double standard of the left is sickening and removes their credibility. Frankly many on the left with these double standard are outright bad people.

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What about not sending bombs to them and not blaming them for getting bombs in the mail. That would be a good start.

If any of those people actually called for violence (tenuous assertion at best) then they deserve to be criticized. Just as Trump deserves to be criticized for his incessant villainization of anyone who doesn't praise him.
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Tbh, I don't think this matters much politically, despite all the hot air. This might swing a few conservative moderates and undecideds, but Trump's base is Trump's base. They do not perceive the rhetorical environment the President has fostered, and don't understand the constant attacks on Trump from liberal media. So any political coin gained is useless to spend.
What about the rhetoric by the likes of Maxine Waters, Corey Booker, Hillary Clinton, Eric Holder and others? Sometimes explicitly calling for violence and in others implicitly calling for violence. How do you feel about liberal Mayors ordering police to stand down for political purposes, resulting in danger to many innocent lives? What about either condoning or ignoring violence when it happens?

All that is okay, right? The double standard of the left is sickening and removes their credibility. Frankly many on the left with these double standard are outright bad people.
legendary
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Tbh, I don't think this matters much politically, despite all the hot air. This might swing a few conservative moderates and undecideds, but Trump's base is Trump's base. They do not perceive the rhetorical environment the President has fostered, and don't understand the constant attacks on Trump from liberal media. So any political coin gained is useless to spend.

If this act of terror outrages you, then you probably weren't going to vote for 45 anyway  Wink most folks have already picked a side. This is either freaking you the fuck out, or you are absolutely loving this. And the partisanship from all sides just makes everyone double down. This won't fix itself.

And going by Breitbart comments, half of the board still thinks this is all a Soros funded false flag. Like the caravan  Grin


Dammit, when did we get so damned stupid? I cant denounce my fellow countrymen for their beliefs, we are all entitled to them.

BUT DAMMIT. WAKE UP.
legendary
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The Mystery of the #MagaBomber

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZCREg72Uq0

The suspect has been arrested. Try to keep up. Do you have at least an updated conspiracy theory?

I see, because it was filmed last night all of his arguments are automatically invalid. Good point.
legendary
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The Mystery of the #MagaBomber

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZCREg72Uq0

The suspect has been arrested. Try to keep up. Do you have at least an updated conspiracy theory?
legendary
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I voted Labour and the Tories won and brought in the BEDROOM TAX and my friend had to leave his house where he was born in because of the bedroom tax  ..

Now i said this is so wrong BUT said well the Tories won and this is what people voted for   as if to say some win some lose  arr well nothing much we can do about it
i will vote them out next time   END OF STORY..Now with trumps he won and you cannot except it  and that for a fact will cause trouble ..

But the worst thing is Trumps has made more jobs for all Americans and he as done very well if you ask me BUT because of CNN they spew out lies they say crazy things to get you all rattled  and it's working  ..So to the DEMS calm down and let your president do his job..

He won deal with it ..

Now we in the UK voted in a democratic vote and we the brexit won BUT the political elite wont have it and are doing all sorts of thing to try and stop it..
So can you imagine voting for a president and then they say no vote again Cough al gore Wink..

It would send the masses crazy  you live in your land and a elite is fiddling the system but the law does nothing to them   would send people MAD..

So lock her up Cheesy we all know   you locked people up for way less..
legendary
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legendary
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I still don't believe it ..I will believe it when the guy is locked up and everyone can see he as been in jail for 3 years at least..

I would like to see him in a interview and see what he as got to say about the whole situation ..

Remember the church for black people getting fire bombed it said vote trump on the wall   well that was a black dem voter that done it..

Remember 9/11 well that was your political elite for monies..

Remember to remember the fact your political elite are scumbags  FACT..

To mr Trumps  don't trust no one not even your FBI top brass ..Oh we are all legit my butt hole Cheesy.

Yes you could have the real pretend bomber   a bomb expert said on your news channels  that the bombs were badly made and wouldn't do anything SO blame your CNN
FOX  and the likes for putting these stories up..

We the average joe have nothing to do with this it's all the lies and murder you have done in the past and maybe still some now..
But if you done your jobs in the first place then no one would be accusing you FBI for being RAT LIARS..

The little boy who cried wolf never ever gets believed again..So it's up to you public services to act in a proper manner..

9/11 was an inside JOB   100%  and 98% of the world knows this  SO  you got some explaining to do before anyone believes you lot..

And BLAME YOURSELF      FBI CIA   for all this   the public doesn't believe us shit..

You have Trump haters battling each other with trump supporters   and you the media spread all this CCN  was all to blame  because they refused to let the elected president
do his job..

If you CNN would of just said oh well may be next time and got on with your lives and let the president do his job  YOU never  you said we are not having him as my president..  SO YOU    CNN   was all to blame  100% FACT..

Remember  it's the ones that don't like trump that stir up the trouble because they cannot except the loss..

Come on if you cannot except the loss      it's you who is causing the trouble..
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Violence has no place in politics, and politicizing this issue says more about you than it does about those you're arguing with.

Seems about right. I'm pretty sure there'd be massive calls of "the violent left" it was a left-wing extremist.

It's hypocrisies like this that makes is hard to take conservatives seriously;

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There are extremists on both side of this issue.  Violence has no place in politics, and politicizing this issue says more about you than it does about those you're arguing with.

We are all Americans, we need to come together and condemn this behavior.  The president has said some things he should not have, and so have some of the people who were targeted with packages.  Hopefully cooler heads will prevail. 
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How about we start talking about the guy that incited the right? Trump's a symptom of the propaganda machine, but the buck does stop with the President, in my opinion.



The president is not responsible for this wackos actions, however he is responsible IMO for embracing and encouraging an environment which would give a mentally unstable person the idea that what he was doing was wanted and helpful to America.

Paraphrasing from Les Mis:  The real problem is not the criminal that takes advantage of the darkness but the autocrat who creates the darkness in which the criminal thrives!

Trump is the problem.

Indeed. I remember clearly when Trump said "2nd amendment people" could potentially harm H. Clinton.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/10/us/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton.html
legendary
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There's a certain individual who pretends he's a victim, when in reality;

How about we start talking about the guy that incited the right? Trump's a symptom of the propaganda machine, but the buck does stop with the President, in my opinion.

That is quite an interesting projection considering this whole time I was pointing out the whole point of this was the cast the left as victims to elicit sympathy right before midterms. Also a lot of them have prosecutions coming. They are losing power and are desperate.

If that is your argument, who is responsible for inciting the shooting at the Republican baseball game a while back where Steve Scalise was shot? What about the people who incited a man to beat Rand Paul so badly he had to be hospitalized? Why is the left not responsible for their own rhetoric in the same way you are claiming the right should be?

You know the answer. You know the way the left thinks.

It's because, SHUT UP.
legendary
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Trump is the problem.

Weekend's tweetstorm is going to be glorious. Trump will do his best to poison the jury pool for Mr. Sayoc.
legendary
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There's a certain individual who pretends he's a victim, when in reality;

How about we start talking about the guy that incited the right? Trump's a symptom of the propaganda machine, but the buck does stop with the President, in my opinion.

That is quite an interesting projection considering this whole time I was pointing out the whole point of this was the cast the left as victims to elicit sympathy right before midterms. Also a lot of them have prosecutions coming. They are losing power and are desperate.

If that is your argument, who is responsible for inciting the shooting at the Republican baseball game a while back where Steve Scalise was shot? What about the people who incited a man to beat Rand Paul so badly he had to be hospitalized? Why is the left not responsible for their own rhetoric in the same way you are claiming the right should be?
legendary
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Verified Bernie Bro - Feel The Bern!

How about we start talking about the guy that incited the right? Trump's a symptom of the propaganda machine, but the buck does stop with the President, in my opinion.



The president is not responsible for this wackos actions, however he is responsible IMO for embracing and encouraging an environment which would give a mentally unstable person the idea that what he was doing was wanted and helpful to America.

Paraphrasing from Les Mis:  The real problem is not the criminal that takes advantage of the darkness but the autocrat who creates the darkness in which the criminal thrives!

Trump is the problem.
legendary
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Why? Because you berate me and attack my character? So far none of you have bothered to even attempt to refute any of the points I made, you simply just tell me what you believe, what some one told you, or what you saw on TV. This is not a debate is is a very transparent attempt to shame people from having dissenting views, much like this whole bombing hoax to begin with.

You can have any views you want and I can laugh at your views because I find them utterly ridiculous, I think we've been there before once or twice. I don't give a shit about you personally or your character, or whether you have one.

The fact is, the perp is a conspiracy nutjob (see van pictures above). You're insisting this is a plot. What is there to refute? You're just making shit up. Provide some evidence that what you're saying has any basis and then we can discuss that.
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He definitely isn't smart. Sending a package without getting caught is pretty much impossible, particularly for someone already known to the authorities. He seems to be a registered Republican though and has a history of being a criminal and a conspiracy nutjob.

Why would he help Democrats?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2018/oct/26/pipe-bombs-latest-live-news-updates-arrest-florida

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Suspect Cesar Sayoc is a registered Republican with an extensive criminal history who appears to have owned dry cleaning and catering businesses, NBC News reported, citing public records.

I am not surprised he is not smart. To me his idol doesn't seem very smart either. I am literally shocked every time he opens his mouth. I can't believe he is born American.
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There's a certain individual who pretends he's a victim, when in reality;



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How about we start talking about the guy that incited the right? Trump's a symptom of the propaganda machine, but the buck does stop with the President, in my opinion.

legendary
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I said the results helped Democrats, not that this man purposely helped them. I also clearly explained how this benefits them, and does not at all benefit conservatives, of which this man supposedly is.

Still can't let go of your cockamamie plot? The man is a deluded conspiracy theorist, much like yourself and the cast of Fox News, except he was dumb enough to act on it. The list of addressees is a dead giveaway:

Most of the recipients are targets of right-wing rhetoric but largely irrelevant to Democrats. No sane person on the left gives a shit about Wasserman-Shultz or Holder or even Clinton so why would they set up such a lame conspiracy to send fake bombs to some has-beens who are not part of midterms in any way?

Since then more packages have been found - addressed to Robert de Niro, Joe Biden, Corey Booker... the list sounds like it was taken from Sean Hanity's or Rush Limbaugh's show or Trump's rallies.

It never ceases to amaze me how much people think life is like movie scripts. The world is not as it presents itself. After a while, the media saturates your brain to the point that scripts seem more real than reality does. Nothing in life is ever this clearly spelled out from A to Z, especially in politics. This is a hand crafted tale designed to serve a specific purpose.

It never ceases to amaze me how tenuous the grasp of reality and facts is among some seemingly otherwise smart people when it comes to challenging their political or religious beliefs. Give it up. It's over. Find the next bogeyman. I suggest THE CARAVAN.

Why? Because you berate me and attack my character? So far none of you have bothered to even attempt to refute any of the points I made, you simply just tell me what you believe, what some one told you, or what you saw on TV. This is not a debate is is a very transparent attempt to shame people from having dissenting views, much like this whole bombing hoax to begin with.
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Christ that's so sad it's almost funny. Looks like Alex Jones got into his head.

Other angle;


You can't make this shit up.
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