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Topic: Explosive devices sent to Bill/Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, George Soros, CNN - page 7. (Read 7305 times)

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Authorities have made an arrest in relation to this.

We will probably find out his political affiliations soon and potentially his motives.
legendary
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who is playing with the top figures head now ? because to me i see it as another game or conspiracy to be able to get the better part of the country audience, distract and perform the real deal!! so for me am not really focused on what was sent but why was such a display done when its sure to get public awareness!! my Question remains what is the next play card?

The individual has gotten the first result
next!! should be what every security agencies should be anticipating

You make a very good point. In the security field this kind of behavior could be characterized as "probing" or eliciting a false alarm. It usually serves 2 main functions. To desensitize the targets/security forces for an actual attack in the hope that they will treat it carelessly next time, and to observe the response of the security forces to the act. Again the narrative is not yet clear, but this could be some type of probing here. That would suggest that there are bigger things to come.
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who is playing with the top figures head now ? because to me i see it as another game or conspiracy to be able to get the better part of the country audience, distract and perform the real deal!! so for me am not really focused on what was sent but why was such a display done when its sure to get public awareness!! my Question remains what is the next play card?

The individual has gotten the first result
next!! should be what every security agencies should be anticipating
legendary
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And the sweeping it under the rug begins...

"Some Suspected Mail Bombs Were Not Capable of Exploding, Others Yet to Be Analyzed, Officials Say"
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/investigations/Mail-Bombs-Biden-De-Niro-Clinton-FBI-Obama-Florida-New-York-City-Delaware-Washington-Investigation-498562021.html?

Notice not one official statement positively confirming actual explosives, only lots of liberties by the author as well as "sources" who remain unnamed.






It seems certain users are entirely blind to reality. If you can't even piece together the victims of attacks or notice calls of violence from certain individuals, you're gonna have a rough time in the real world.

Pretty bad when a single individual can literally call for violence, but no one holds that individual accountable.

Another right-winger ran into a bunch of protesters, killing 1 girl... after he watched a clip on Fox News promoting running over protesters with your car like the Muslims were doing
https://money.cnn.com/2017/08/15/media/daily-caller-fox-news-video-car-crashing-liberal-protesters/index.html

See, at points like this, I think we should hold those accountable for inciting violence. Do you think, without this news story, that an individual would do the same?


Do you have an actual rebuke or just moral grandstanding and a series of character attacks ?
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It seems certain users are entirely blind to reality. If you can't even piece together the victims of attacks or notice calls of violence from certain individuals, you're gonna have a rough time in the real world.

Pretty bad when a single individual can literally call for violence, but no one holds that individual accountable.

Another right-winger ran into a bunch of protesters, killing 1 girl... after he watched a clip on Fox News promoting running over protesters with your car like the Muslims were doing
https://money.cnn.com/2017/08/15/media/daily-caller-fox-news-video-car-crashing-liberal-protesters/index.html

See, at points like this, I think we should hold those accountable for inciting violence. Do you think, without this news story, that an individual would do the same?
legendary
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My money is on the DEMS doing it to themselves  because they are liars   and have the FBI in their pockets..

What is it the DEMS pay the top brass of the FBI kickbacks to do things for them   and the republicans pay the CIA to do things for them?..

I find it disgusting that POLITICIANS can bribe any secret service or police or judge to do them favours   ..Why no JAIL?..

The trouble is your CONGRESS is a total waste of time and MONIES  all talk  and no action from congress ..

Lets go in a back room and discuss lies and then nothing happens  to anyone  oh and plead the 5TH  so what is the point in having the

DOJ or the CONGRESS  if no one can be held accountable in these public services  mind you they think they are ABOVE everyone and we the little people should bow to those TURDS..
legendary
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Just off topic but i would like people to know..

Politicians are banging on about POPULISM  meaning the politicians hate the people having the say in politics   they want to be led by how they think the country should be run..
Now imagine in a vote?.".entertain me please "Grin..

Imagine a politician saying on TV  vote me because i wont you to live by how i see fit   how many votes would they get?..

Now imagine they say  oh look bad roads bad hospitals i will get them fixed    that is the ONLY reason why we voted a politician in  because they said what the problems was
and they said they would fix them NOT   you vote me in and do as i see fit and how things should be..

So why is POPULISM even in politicians minds?     I mean did you say vote for me and i will let you all live how i see fit?   NO NO NO you as a politician said you was going to fix something that you seen was wrong  BUT  when you get in power you never do what you said you was going to do..

That makes it FRAUD ..If i sold you a car and give you a bike it's FRAUD  ..
But politicians come out with a word like POPULISM Roll Eyes..

what a joke to even say populism   ..You stand up next election and say VOTE ME   because i will make you all live i how see fit   I BET no one votes for you..

But they still thinks we should live how they see fit  and that's why they mention POPULISM .. 

See how they trick your minds..
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Excuse me. Remember Rep. Steve Scalise? What about Rand Paul getting his ribs broken? The ricin in the mail? There really are so many cases of unhinged leftists losing it or calling for violence, I don't want to spam up the thread with a huge list of examples. Hey you are concluding this MUST be some one on the right attacking the left, suddenly people who disagree with you can not make similar conclusions?

You can unbunch your panties. Make any conclusions you want and I'll laugh at them any chance I get, as I would with anyone who pretends to have "opinions" and "conclusions" and rejects basic facts.

For you to suggest that Trumps QUITE REASONABLE criticism of the press is equivalent to calling for violence is juvenile. You know who has been calling for violence over and over though? The Democrats and the left.

"Enemy of the people" is not reasonable criticism. Look at how media is treated by Trump rally participants if you're in any doubt as to what's going on here.

Please, don't impose your imaginary emotional states upon me. Yeah, laugh it up, because this is a hilarious topic. You know what I am using here that you lack completely? Critical thought. You believe the world is as it presents itself and the TV tells you so, so it must be true. You act like  "conspiracy theories" have never been proven true, and the media doesn't CONSTANTLY lie to us. There is nothing unreasonable about these conclusions.


Regarding your "enemy of the people quote, lets look at what he ACTUALLY said:

 "The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!"

"The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @CNN, @NBCNews and many more) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American people," he wrote. "SICK!"

LOOK HOW THE MEDIA IS TREATED BY TRUMP? LOL what poor poor victims. They certainly don't deserve this! The media has been totally civil and never calls for violence or makes up lies about Trump. Nope... never.

As you can see he was specifically calling FAKE NEWS the enemy of the people, but of course the media, like with everything, has to take it out of context and sell it as the most extreme angle possible. Thanks for this public demonstration on your inability to even check the source material before making a claim, and just believing what the TV says. Also for the convenient example of what Trump was talking about when he made that statement.




Reading matters. I'm laughing at Tecshare's "conclusions" (more like conspiracy theories) as well as the ridiculous assertion that I'm somehow trying to prevent said "conclusions" from being made...

Again, a hilarious topic for you I am sure. Who said you were trying to prevent anything? As I predicted it is starting to come out that the devices were not even explosive, and this was all a hoax to elicit sympathy for these people.





As a democratic supporter, I feel as though I could be next personally, if a certain individual really wanted it so.

Get over yourself. You aren't important enough for anyone to attack with bombs. You wanna talk about being afraid as an individual? Put on a MAGA hat and walk around LA, Seattle, or NY and tell me how long it takes before you are assaulted.


Unlike these victims, I don't have a security detail. They're obviously getting a basic hit-list from some place.
Oh its obvious is it? Is it even obvious they were intended to actually be targets? Nope, the FBI and ATF will not even say the devices were explosive, only that they "appeared to be explosive". Watch this little detail get glossed over again and again and the story fades to black as people find new pictures of Kim Kardashian's butt.



Now, onto the actual perpetrator. The hit-list comes from Trump himself, as so far, only the individuals targeted have criticized them. The victims are all registered democrat voter, as far as I'm aware. There were political and cultural people victims.

It comes from Trump himself now directly does it? I mean really, what are you doing wasting your time here, you should be working at the FBI with those investigative skills to have figured this out so quickly with zero information related. You don't think it is at all coincidental that these people are largely irrelevant, EXCEPT for the fact that they are a perfect little sample summary of people Trump has criticized?



A few questions; was this a state-sanctioned act? is America under attack?
Sadly, without evidence, we can't even rule this out. It's obviously an internal attack, and I'm sure our borders are safe. I don't feel as though it'd be a nation-state level of events, even though Putin does hate some of these individuals (including Clinton).

Is it really obvious though, or are you just drawing conclusions that fit your narrative and filling in the gaps as you go? Yes, our borders are TOTALLY safe xD right. Now you are making assumptions about who Putin hates (based on nothing but your confirmation bias ofc).


I don't really follow right wing extremist (eg. Alex Jones) but I know of it. I know there was calling of violence, anger, hate, pretty much everything that breeds political incitement.

He never called for violence. This is again just another example of parroting what you see on TV without checking any source material. If you think I am wrong, please do find me an unedited, un-cropped, quote of his calls for violence on video. However I know you can't because it doesn't exist.



The targets are democrats that haven't been mentioned in months by moderate left media....I'm not sure about the moderate left or right to be honest. I think they're mostly keeping their heads down and staying out of it. I'd like to rule those people out.

Yep, quite interesting so much supposed rage would be focused on largely irrelevant people isn't it?


Now, looking at the evidence, we can probably assume the individual was a right-wing extremist with mental issues. A meth-head with a stolen laptop searches internet bomb and prints off a couple labels, drops them off at random sections, and them damned evil doers will be dead.

Oh can you? Can you assume? A meth head trying to build a bomb is only going to have one result, horrible catastrophic failure. If you think it is THAT easy to build mail bombs then you should go back to watching 24 or something.


Anyway, until the FBI releases more details, I'm making the assumption it's some rural meth addicted right wing extremist executing his wild aggressive fantasies without regard to reality. My assumption could be wrong pretty quickly if all of a sudden political allies to Trump were targeted next, not individuals that he has attacked.

Yeah, because this meth head you have in your imaginations, he is smart enough to coordinate a national level organized attack without being immediately caught, but not smart enough to know that these people don't even open their own mail. Yeah. Ok. This is an extremely odd and skilled meth head you have here.





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legendary
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Is it disgusting that someone one sent these dems pretend bombs?..

9/11 3 thousand deaths disgusting ..
CIA putting anthrax in their own cinemas disgusting..

CIA giving soldiers LSD without them knowing it  disgusting..

CIA testing nukes while soldiers stood by and watched to see what affect they had  disgusting..

CIA done so many things to their own peoples     it's disgusting..

CIA flooding the streets with heroin  disgusting..

I find it disgusting that political parties find it disgusting      when they kill so many BUT  don't like it when someone does what they done   DISGUSTING..

I find hellfish DISGUSTING  for being a DEM  rat plus being a moderator  who is biased ..

It's a bit like a judge who already judged..
Now do you see how these DEMS think    they want you to think you got the right to vote but really your getting another HELLFISH..

How could anyone support CLINTON?..

 Cheesy  You who do support Clinton you are supporting a type of EL CHAPO   ..Go and do your home work  coke dealers..Ask the police where they are from..

140 odd deaths from the area where they are from     all to do with Clintons    ask the police..

I hope that someday we can clean the whole lot of bad politicians who only go in power for greed ..

Just go in as a leader and take your wages and leave on a good note when when when?.

 

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I didn't even know there was a term for this sort of news, thanks for that by the way!.

But yes, I do fully understand the whole rich people don't open their mail thing. You would just think whoever was sending this, if they were ACTUALLY TRYING TO SUCCEED, would do their research into that and it would foil their plan in their head. This person is either incompetent/dumb, or this was planned to create chaos. Who knows which one though.

There is no shortage of right-wing nut jobs who listen to people like Alex Jones, then shoot up a pizza shop because they think it is a secret child sex slave shop run by Hillary Clinton herself... seriously, this happened
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory#Comet_Ping_Pong_shooting

Another right-winger ran into a bunch of protesters, killing 1 girl... after he watched a clip on Fox News promoting running over protesters with your car like the Muslims were doing
https://money.cnn.com/2017/08/15/media/daily-caller-fox-news-video-car-crashing-liberal-protesters/index.html

There have also been 42 abortion clinic bombings since 1977, so right-wingers are not new to bombs:

Since 1977 there have been eight murders, 17 attempted murders, 42 bombings, and 186 arsons targeted at abortion clinics and providers across the United States

The stupidity of people never ceases to amaze me
legendary
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Flying Hellfish is a Commie
I just don't know how none of these bombs actually succeeded in killing their targets.

Rich people don't open their own mail, it's that simple

High profile people like Obama and the Clintons probably get hundreds if not thousands of letters every day... a lot of it will be hate mail and death threats... they don't open any of that themselves, who has the time?  They have plenty of money to hire someone to open their mail, read it, and tell them if anything is worth looking at.

Kings have always employed food tasters to check for poison in their dinner before eating.  This is no different

For god sake folks, this could have been done by the Russians to try to strike fear and divide in the country. It seems like they're succeeding. As you have the right calling this an inside job and you have Democrats (like flying hellfish) saying that the entire Republican party supports this.

We're better than this folks, come on. If this is them (or someone else trying to divide the country) they're doing a good job.

I'll admit the timing is suspicious.  It is an October Surprise.  Realistically it could be anyone... to quote myself from earlier, "Republican vs Democrat is a silly game that rich people play to keep us fighting against each other instead of fighting them"

I didn't even know there was a term for this sort of news, thanks for that by the way!.

But yes, I do fully understand the whole rich people don't open their mail thing. You would just think whoever was sending this, if they were ACTUALLY TRYING TO SUCCEED, would do their research into that and it would foil their plan in their head. This person is either incompetent/dumb, or this was planned to create chaos. Who knows which one though.
legendary
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Excuse me. Remember Rep. Steve Scalise? What about Rand Paul getting his ribs broken? The ricin in the mail? There really are so many cases of unhinged leftists losing it or calling for violence....

You can unbunch your panties. Make any conclusions you want and I'll laugh at them....

Laughing and ridiculing these events is way, way improper.
Yes but it is laughable .Your government the way it's run is improper don't you mean?..

Paying secret service to do things that make you money is improper ..

those events are bullshit   and who gives a shit about those scumbags anyways Undecided  do a jig..
legendary
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Pretty sure the person or people that are mailing these bombs through the mail are mentally ill in at least some way. There's no way that a mentally competent person would think this was a good idea in anyway, shape, or form.

Mentally ill < Yes i bet hillary is mentally ill after losing to TRUMPS Cheesy..
legendary
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Just think many years ago governments could do something in one state or town and do it all over your country and no one would know..
Now if the same POLITICAL CRIME goes on in one state   the same as another   we get to find out by the INTERNET..

All abuse scandals I watched one last night about a abuse ring and they said the secret service get young kids to parties where politicians and high power people are
take kids there to get abused so they cab blackmail the politicians and what not..

Some are saying it's the secret service doing it for the elite so the elite have the kiddie fiddler rulers in there pockets  CRAZY hay..But i bet it's true if you think what some would do for power it makes sense that some would be so EVIL.  ALL FOR POWER ..

jUST TO SHOW YOU HOW SNEAKY THESE POLITICAL SCUM CAN BE..

But the thing is they need money to pay people to do things for them because most of those politicians could do nothing because they are weak wet pussies..
So need plenty of cash to bribe peoples   and it ooks like the DEMS will lose loads of cash   I HOPE THAT PARTY DIES..

They pretend to be for the poor when they are full of poo   AT least with the trumps you know what you get because he tells you straight to your face..

CLEAN THE SWAMP   it goes in the secret services as well  clean that out or get shut of it one or the other..

Make a new secret service called we take no bribe secrets service .. we just do the job we was payed to do by the USA peoples..
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Right wing extremism is a scary thing.

I'm pretty sure the person or people that are mailing these bombs through the mail are mentally ill in at least some way. There's no way that a mentally competent person would think this was a good idea in anyway, shape, or form.

As a democratic supporter, I feel as though I could be next personally, if a certain individual really wanted it so.

Unlike these victims, I don't have a security detail. They're obviously getting a basic hit-list from some place. So far, there's been wild accusations that it's some left-wing person targeting their own people as some false-flag operation. "Hey guys, I'm going to risk my freedom by spreading fear through bombs in the mail to well guarded people". That's some nutbag crazy conspiracy tbh. Eventually, the perpetrator will be caught. There's plenty of lessons of that. What person in their right mind would even think to do something.

Now, onto the actual perpetrator. The hit-list comes from Trump himself, as so far, only the individuals targeted have criticized them. The victims are all registered democrat voter, as far as I'm aware. There were political and cultural people victims.

A few questions; was this a state-sanctioned act? is America under attack?

Sadly, without evidence, we can't even rule this out. It's obviously an internal attack, and I'm sure our borders are safe. I don't feel as though it'd be a nation-state level of events, even though Putin does hate some of these individuals (including Clinton).

The only supporting evidence this is foreign to me, is they fucked up the envelope. That could have just been a way to bypass security, however it was off. Even that seems a bit far-fetched, at least to me.

So, assuming the attack in internal, what can we leverage from the information we have. Let's look at the consumption of media by the individual.

I don't really follow right wing extremist (eg. Alex Jones) but I know of it. I know there was calling of violence, anger, hate, pretty much everything that breeds political incitement. I caught some AM radio news and holy hell, the way people talk about stuff. It's absolutely mindnumbing. The amount of mental gymnastics people make. Paint Obama as the devil for years, but then say "don't criticize the president, it's unamerican". Anyway, back to my point, the right. I'm assuming these people are mentioned frequently in right wing media. I'd imagine they need some sort of mental scapegoat for problems they're facing.

The targets are democrats that haven't been mentioned in months by moderate left media. Also, as a moderate left member of democrats, I feel some disdain towards the DNC for failing at security procedures and Clinton especially for being in bed with the lobbist. But Biden aint done nothing wrong, nor has any of the other individuals listed. To be honest, if we never find out who the perpetrator is, and all these individuals run for office, I'll put on my tin hat and call this whole mess a left-wing conspiracy. However, I don't forsee Clinton trying another run at Trump. I don't see De Niro going for it either.

I'm not sure about the moderate left or right to be honest. I think they're mostly keeping their heads down and staying out of it. I'd like to rule those people out.

Now, looking at the evidence, we can probably assume the individual was a right-wing extremist with mental issues.

Mental issues stem from a variety of problems, such as poverty and drug addiction, other are more natural. America does have a drug problem, too much black market, not enough regulation. Legalization of weed is coming along as progress in a few states, but myth and heroin has been taking this nation by storm. Rural towns are meth'd up, cities are heroin'd down from my perspective. I think it was probably someone myth'd up, to be honest. It seems as though someone listening to AM radio while doing some meth (and I bet you there are hundreds across America doing this now, in our land of 330 million (with only 300 million free currently [rofl 10% incarceration]) could be reasonable of suspicion of committing a crime or two. I mean, smoking, injecting... consuming meth is against the law, as far as I'm aware. But the larger issue is they're sending bombs through the mail.

A meth-head with a stolen laptop searches internet bomb and prints off a couple labels, drops them off at random sections, and them damned evil doers will be dead.

If the individual's a gaming man:
I'd bet he'd gamble on the next target. De Niro being the odd ball no one picked or some bullshit. I'm not sure, I don't gamble, but goddamned, cheating the system Wink

Anyway, until the FBI releases more details, I'm making the assumption it's some rural meth addicted right wing extremist executing his wild aggressive fantasies without regard to reality.

My assumption could be wrong pretty quickly if all of a sudden political allies to Trump were targeted next, not individuals that he has attacked.
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Excuse me. Remember Rep. Steve Scalise? What about Rand Paul getting his ribs broken? The ricin in the mail? There really are so many cases of unhinged leftists losing it or calling for violence....

You can unbunch your panties. Make any conclusions you want and I'll laugh at them....

Laughing and ridiculing these events is way, way improper.

Reading matters. I'm laughing at Tecshare's "conclusions" (more like conspiracy theories) as well as the ridiculous assertion that I'm somehow trying to prevent said "conclusions" from being made.

Bolding random shit and cutting posts up to make it seem like I said something I didn't is indeed improper, and I'll ridicule that too. I hope that's ok with you but I don't really give a shit if it isn't.
legendary
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Excuse me. Remember Rep. Steve Scalise? What about Rand Paul getting his ribs broken? The ricin in the mail? There really are so many cases of unhinged leftists losing it or calling for violence....

You can unbunch your panties. Make any conclusions you want and I'll laugh at them....

Laughing and ridiculing these events is way, way improper.
legendary
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I heard 9 pipe bombs was sent to different addresses all DEMS     I find it was funny the fact no stamps on parcels to trace back to sender Roll Eyes ..
But the dems didn't think they said some was sent by courier  OK so how did this terrorist send them by courier? ..

If you send by courier they still need to be signed for and the persons needs to go to a post office of some sort ..
You cannot flag a courier down and pull it up at the side of the road and say POST THIS..

Go and try and pull over a courier van and say post this at such and such address with printed stamps on the parcels  Wink Roll Eyes Cheesy..

The news said the stamps that you see on the parcels was printed and then a courier service delivered them  HOW ?..
Even if the courier service never noticed they must have cameras in the building of the courier service?..

I have never ever known a courier service to post something unless it come from the office..So where is the terrorist on camera asking the courier service to deliver this parcel
and also the terrorist must of paid some how..?  so where is the terrorist receipt for the use of the couriers service delivery ..

You cannot pull a courier service van over and ask for a parcel to be sent  you must go to a office of some sort to pay for the delivery..

Now if the FBI CIA CRONIES  who are a total gangsters crew  should of easy find out by now..

The USA     FBI  CIA   are scum of the earth RATS  not the little guys in the FBI or CIA  the top of the tree needs cutting down to size..
As in STOP  using people for your own gains   YOU BUMS..

It wouldn't surprise me if the FBI set some poor fucker up..  WE GOT HIM    yeah right Cheesy..

Lets just say  YOUR secret services in the USA  are SCUM BAGS   rats..  the top brass send the small CIA dudes to do their dirty work so they benefit  not the little CIA dude but the top ASS HOLE   RATS   who clinton obama and the likes have in their pockets ..

dON'T GET ME WRONG I COULD BE WRONG 1% WRONG ..I know i am right and so do most of the planet KNOW what RATS  you political elite are like..

The funny thing is the internet  MADE US SEE THE LIGHT Grin Cheesy...I bet the politicians HATE THE INTERNET Cheesy Cheesy...I FUCKING LOVE IT..
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People were put in danger and a lot are dismissing it just because they do not like those people. It's disgusting.
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