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Quote from: boltz on August 29, 2021, 05:39:53 AM

Come on guys , don't let this thread getting old as you all love F1 and I'm shocked that no one came here after the qualifiers from yesterday and made a post about it. We had one of the most epic qualifiers in the last 17 years and it was all thanked to raim and Russel who drove like Senna in the old days.

Race begins in 2 hours from now and I think Max will win this race but I don't see Mercedes having a great ride today.

Agreed. The qualifying session yesterday was incredibly good. George Russell is one of the drivers that I like the most. And I became really happy when I saw that he achieved a career record with this car by taking the 2nd place. If Verstappen didn't have a good lap, Russell was going to take the pole! He is one of the special drivers and I hope to see him driving a Mercedes next season. He deserves this more than Bottas, no offense. Grin

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Quote from: boltz on August 29, 2021, 05:39:53 AM

Come on guys , don't let this thread getting old as you all love F1 and I'm shocked that no one came here after the qualifiers from yesterday and made a post about it. We had one of the most epic qualifiers in the last 17 years and it was all thanked to raim and Russel who drove like Senna in the old days.

Race begins in 2 hours from now and I think Max will win this race but I don't see Mercedes having a great ride today.

I don't think the problem is that no one wants to post anything (even though it was an excellent qualifying by Verstappen and Russel under difficult conditions), because there is another thread where people write and discuss about motorsport in general, including F1.

It is then difficult to write across threads and I think that is why most people stay in the general motor sport thread.

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Come on guys , don't let this thread getting old as you all love F1 and I'm shocked that no one came here after the qualifiers from yesterday and made a post about it. We had one of the most epic qualifiers in the last 17 years and it was all thanked to raim and Russel who drove like Senna in the old days.

Race begins in 2 hours from now and I think Max will win this race but I don't see Mercedes having a great ride today.

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After almost three weeks off F1 is back in gear this coming weekend so let's get to it!
The Belgium Grand Prix on the Spa-Francorchamps track.

Practice 1: https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/practice-1/practice-1-61239a032558e164d6daf9aa

Qualification: https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/qualification/qualification-6123999079852a8fbb37b090

Final Race: https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/race/race-61078688f1a4ddd0a5148cf0

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Like as all know FIA , it won't be reversed and they already moved over the decision. However, the good part for Aston Martin still remains as for them they have 2 podiums in 2nd place as their first year in F1 under the brand of Aston Martin which is pretty great so far so maybe until the end of the F1 calendar, we might see an Aston Martin on podium again.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on August 07, 2021, 11:48:01 PM

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Quote from: Koal-84 on August 07, 2021, 01:59:06 AM

On Vettel's disqualification, Aston Martin have now appealed it, claiming there was enough fuel in the tank.

Hm, I don't see that appeal to be ending in a success if there just wasn't enough fuel in the tank. I would be quite surprised because that's just an objective measurement which has to be in conformity with the rules right? If they appeal now, are they seriously appealing that the amount of fuel was measured wrongly? Or are they arguing on moral grounds?

They weren't saying that it was enough fuel. What they were saying is that the sensors have shown that there's enough fuel.

Quote from: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.aston-martin-initiate-appeal-procedure-against-vettels-hungary.3SKQtWHyb9A9scSJfel62u.html

Since the team's data indicated that there was more than 1.0 litre of fuel in the car after the race – 1.74 litres according to the data

As much as I'd like to see Seb getting that place #2, I don't have much hopes for the decision get reverted.

Yes I got that but what I was saying is how in the world could the referees wrongly measure the leftover fuel? That sounds too amateurish to be true in my opinion. Interestingly though what are they going to do when it is word against word? Who knows if it is even possible to prove in the aftermath which data is wrong? If Aston Martin's data says X and the other data says Y, Aston Martin would probably not manipulate their data just for a podium with no chances for anything else this season.

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Quote from: mv1986 on August 07, 2021, 05:55:20 PM

Quote from: Koal-84 on August 07, 2021, 01:59:06 AM

On Vettel's disqualification, Aston Martin have now appealed it, claiming there was enough fuel in the tank.

Hm, I don't see that appeal to be ending in a success if there just wasn't enough fuel in the tank. I would be quite surprised because that's just an objective measurement which has to be in conformity with the rules right? If they appeal now, are they seriously appealing that the amount of fuel was measured wrongly? Or are they arguing on moral grounds?

They weren't saying that it was enough fuel. What they were saying is that the sensors have shown that there's enough fuel.

Quote from: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.aston-martin-initiate-appeal-procedure-against-vettels-hungary.3SKQtWHyb9A9scSJfel62u.html

Since the team's data indicated that there was more than 1.0 litre of fuel in the car after the race – 1.74 litres according to the data

As much as I'd like to see Seb getting that place #2, I don't have much hopes for the decision get reverted.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on August 07, 2021, 01:59:06 AM

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Perfect start from Norris and Bottos shoot out all two RedBull with Norris as shot.

Now there is safty car already after the first lap. The cards are reshuffled, but the race already starts badly for Max, no luck for Verstappen and RedBull. So already red flag... And restart later.

Man, that was a heartbreaking race for both the RedBulls and Norris. Man, seeing Seb finishing 2nd and going to the podium makes me really emotional as it kinda reminds me of his glory days in RedBull.

Nevertheless, congratulations to Esteban for winning this Hungarian Grand Prix! He was really consistent on this race and it showed his skill throughout the race. Lastly, the battle between Hamilton and Alonzo was a sight to behold- Alonzo still has it.

Without Alonso, Ocon probably wouldn't have won, Alonso was keeping Hamilton very well behind him until his braking mistake, that cost Hamilton a lot of time. Perfectly done by Alonso.

On Vettel's disqualification, Aston Martin have now appealed it, claiming there was enough fuel in the tank.

Hm, I don't see that appeal to be ending in a success if there just wasn't enough fuel in the tank. I would be quite surprised because that's just an objective measurement which has to be in conformity with the rules right? If they appeal now, are they seriously appealing that the amount of fuel was measured wrongly? Or are they arguing on moral grounds?

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Quote from: Koal-84 on August 07, 2021, 01:59:06 AM

Quote from: qwertyup23 on August 01, 2021, 03:29:11 PM

Quote from: Koal-84 on August 01, 2021, 08:08:28 AM

Perfect start from Norris and Bottos shoot out all two RedBull with Norris as shot.

Now there is safty car already after the first lap. The cards are reshuffled, but the race already starts badly for Max, no luck for Verstappen and RedBull. So already red flag... And restart later.

Man, that was a heartbreaking race for both the RedBulls and Norris. Man, seeing Seb finishing 2nd and going to the podium makes me really emotional as it kinda reminds me of his glory days in RedBull.

Nevertheless, congratulations to Esteban for winning this Hungarian Grand Prix! He was really consistent on this race and it showed his skill throughout the race. Lastly, the battle between Hamilton and Alonzo was a sight to behold- Alonzo still has it.

Without Alonso, Ocon probably wouldn't have won, Alonso was keeping Hamilton very well behind him until his braking mistake, that cost Hamilton a lot of time. Perfectly done by Alonso.

On Vettel's disqualification, Aston Martin have now appealed it, claiming there was enough fuel in the tank.

I think it would have won without Alonso too but I doubt Vettel would have been on 2nd position as Lewis was coming like a rocket. However, the ego of Alonso made him driving like he was back in 2004 in his Renault and he kept duel Hamilton for his position for more than 6 laps if I remember correctly.

I'm shocked after I saw yesterday in eau rouge in Spa ...that accident was horrible to watch.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on August 01, 2021, 03:29:11 PM

Quote from: Koal-84 on August 01, 2021, 08:08:28 AM

Perfect start from Norris and Bottos shoot out all two RedBull with Norris as shot.

Now there is safty car already after the first lap. The cards are reshuffled, but the race already starts badly for Max, no luck for Verstappen and RedBull. So already red flag... And restart later.

Man, that was a heartbreaking race for both the RedBulls and Norris. Man, seeing Seb finishing 2nd and going to the podium makes me really emotional as it kinda reminds me of his glory days in RedBull.

Nevertheless, congratulations to Esteban for winning this Hungarian Grand Prix! He was really consistent on this race and it showed his skill throughout the race. Lastly, the battle between Hamilton and Alonzo was a sight to behold- Alonzo still has it.

Without Alonso, Ocon probably wouldn't have won, Alonso was keeping Hamilton very well behind him until his braking mistake, that cost Hamilton a lot of time. Perfectly done by Alonso.

On Vettel's disqualification, Aston Martin have now appealed it, claiming there was enough fuel in the tank.

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Quote from: AndySt on August 03, 2021, 06:36:31 PM

Quote from: boltz on August 03, 2021, 10:54:01 AM

Is FIA literally ruined Vettel race because he stood in dirty air behind Ocon all the race trying to overtake so I don't know if the speculation with his fuel giving extra power can be true. I mean , I can understand that they couldn't take the necessary fuel from it's fuel tank but to D/Q him just because of this seemed to much.
I can also say that Sainz worked a lot in that race and did everything to keep Hamilton on p3 and keep that podium for himself but if I were to chose a pilot who deserved the podium more than Sainz would be Alonso who drove on his birthday like he was 20 again.

Rules are rules, and it is quite obvious that the rules about fuel were also invented for good reason, because the less fuel in the car, the lighter it is, respectively, and the correspondingly higher speed it can develop on a circle. I am sorry that this happened with Vettel, but the requirements are more or less clear here and it is impossible to refer to the non-obvious wording. It is not entirely clear why Aston Martin was sure that after extracting 300 milliliters of fuel, there should have been another 1.44 liters left in the tank and how they are going to prove this. It's nice that Alonso at this age continues to show a high level of driving a car and it's not for nothing that Fernando was recognized as the driver of the day.

While this might be true, Hamilton' crash with Verstappen should have also been handled differently. If an event has tremendous impact on the race and it is a behavior that needs to be punished, the punishment should be in relation to what the misbehavior by the driver caused to happen. Vettel might have been lighter, therefore faster. But he got fully disqualified. Hamilton kicks out Verstappen, wins the race and probably the championship. 10 seconds penalty. Huh...

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Quote from: boltz on August 03, 2021, 10:54:01 AM

Is FIA literally ruined Vettel race because he stood in dirty air behind Ocon all the race trying to overtake so I don't know if the speculation with his fuel giving extra power can be true. I mean , I can understand that they couldn't take the necessary fuel from it's fuel tank but to D/Q him just because of this seemed to much.
I can also say that Sainz worked a lot in that race and did everything to keep Hamilton on p3 and keep that podium for himself but if I were to chose a pilot who deserved the podium more than Sainz would be Alonso who drove on his birthday like he was 20 again.

Rules are rules, and it is quite obvious that the rules about fuel were also invented for good reason, because the less fuel in the car, the lighter it is, respectively, and the correspondingly higher speed it can develop on a circle. I am sorry that this happened with Vettel, but the requirements are more or less clear here and it is impossible to refer to the non-obvious wording. It is not entirely clear why Aston Martin was sure that after extracting 300 milliliters of fuel, there should have been another 1.44 liters left in the tank and how they are going to prove this. It's nice that Alonso at this age continues to show a high level of driving a car and it's not for nothing that Fernando was recognized as the driver of the day.

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Is FIA literally ruined Vettel race because he stood in dirty air behind Ocon all the race trying to overtake so I don't know if the speculation with his fuel giving extra power can be true. I mean , I can understand that they couldn't take the necessary fuel from it's fuel tank but to D/Q him just because of this seemed to much.

I can also say that Sainz worked a lot in that race and did everything to keep Hamilton on p3 and keep that podium for himself but if I were to chose a pilot who deserved the podium more than Sainz would be Alonso who drove on his birthday like he was 20 again.

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Quote from: dezoel on August 02, 2021, 03:21:01 PM

Does anyone know what happens with the Vettel situation? Not like he won, so I do not think that anyone would be doing any worse but I know few places have "podium" bets so I just wanted to ask if in general people know what happens with that. When people accused me for being a Max fanboi because of Silverstone crash and I said it was 100% Hamilton fault and even a bit deliberate as well, hell even heard someone say I am racist like crash had anything to do with someone's skin color somehow?
However THIS is a racing incident, Bottas was out, dude just got a lock up and hit Lando, not like he would want that neither, this is first career out of Bottas in first lap, dude never got out in first lap before, this was 100% racing incident, even though it hurts me as Max supporter, this was fair racing with a unlucky ending.

I am not a supporter of Max, but we must understand that in the previous race Hamilton risked being left without continuing the race himself and everything would have remained at the same level about the gap in the championship. The same situation is about Bottas ' accident, you need to have a very good prediction of the situation to think that entering one rider can lead to such wonderful consequences for the team. The most disappointing thing is that we were not able to see the Red Bull cars in normal combat conditions, although I, as a relatively outside observer, am pleased to see that there is an intrigue in the championship again, rather than at the beginning of the championship, when it seemed that Mercedes would not be able to present Red Bull at the end of the season.

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Quote from: dezoel on August 02, 2021, 03:21:01 PM

Does anyone know what happens with the Vettel situation? Not like he won, so I do not think that anyone would be doing any worse but I know few places have "podium" bets so I just wanted to ask if in general people know what happens with that. When people accused me for being a Max fanboi because of Silverstone crash and I said it was 100% Hamilton fault and even a bit deliberate as well, hell even heard someone say I am racist like crash had anything to do with someone's skin color somehow?

However THIS is a racing incident, Bottas was out, dude just got a lock up and hit Lando, not like he would want that neither, this is first career out of Bottas in first lap, dude never got out in first lap before, this was 100% racing incident, even though it hurts me as Max supporter, this was fair racing with a unlucky ending.

yeah I think Bottas was not totally at fault for the accident as he could be not expected Norris to brake so early infront of him and since he was so close of him he didn't have enough time to react and wanted to take back some of the spots he lost for the bad start he was focused on gaining back his position,
For me Stroll accident with Leclerc should have gone punished since he took him out while he was out of the track and Leclerc was next to him trying to avoid the chaos infront and Stroll just came from the inside and out of the track smash him he could avoided that by Turing that turn while he was outside I don't think he would be blamed for violating track limit since he didn't have anywhere else to go.

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Does anyone know what happens with the Vettel situation? Not like he won, so I do not think that anyone would be doing any worse but I know few places have "podium" bets so I just wanted to ask if in general people know what happens with that. When people accused me for being a Max fanboi because of Silverstone crash and I said it was 100% Hamilton fault and even a bit deliberate as well, hell even heard someone say I am racist like crash had anything to do with someone's skin color somehow?

However THIS is a racing incident, Bottas was out, dude just got a lock up and hit Lando, not like he would want that neither, this is first career out of Bottas in first lap, dude never got out in first lap before, this was 100% racing incident, even though it hurts me as Max supporter, this was fair racing with a unlucky ending.

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That was an unexpected race from beginning to end. Well done to those who managed to take Ocon @501x odds and Alpine @251x.
Cause the only way for them to get this kind of result would be from a crash out. Cheesy

In some rather shocking turn of events it looks like Vettel was disqualified from this race due to not providing a fuel sample at the end.
So Hamilton moved up to second place and 3rd place went to Sainz for Ferrari.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/58050375

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Quote from: sportsbet.io on August 01, 2021, 02:18:41 PM

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I've missed the first 10 laps, when I've turned TV on it looked like a bad dream. I have to see a rerun of the start. It looks like it was... very bad.
Congrats to Ocon, congrats to Seb (although I've read that sadly he got disqualified) and congrats to Alonso too for the very good race.
Great move for Gasly with the fastest lap Wink

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And ocon was 500x odds!! What a huge dog win, love it!

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Quote from: boltz on August 01, 2021, 02:21:34 PM

Amazing race! This one just made the History F1 books because we had so many elements and key factors that made this race unique and most likely it will pass some time until we can see another race like this one.

Funny apologies from Mercedes to Red Bull.

Ocon: "wow,wowwowwowwowowow... first victory, first of many!"

Reporter to Alonso: "Not bad for an old man!"

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Man, I am so proud of you. 251/1, I'd be shining that for showing off every Christmas on my F1 mantelpiece if I had one. Well done Steve!

Still recovering from Bottas's bulldoze move. Still not even sure I was not dreaming.

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