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Quote from: jakdanyel on May 29, 2021, 06:25:14 PM

He is a really interesting character. For example, he always complains about his tyres in every race but he still gains a victory at the end. Cheesy

Well, he talks many times only "for the audience". And also he may have some coding for what he wants to say.
He knows that everybody listens, want to get any tiny big of clue about what his strategy is going to be, and obviously profit.

We cannot know if "a complaint about tyres" may actually mean that he can change 5 turns later than discussed, for example. Or maybe it's just "everything is fine".

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Quote from: rdbase on May 28, 2021, 04:29:38 PM

I think Hamilton will try and finish better than his last race as he didn't place in the top 3.

He said that there won't be much change in the Azerbaijan GP for them also. But this time, I also think that he won't finish at a really bad position. I guess that lessons were taken from the Monaco GP. I expect him to see in top 3 this time.

If Hamilton says something like that, it means he will do much better in that race surely. Grin

He is a really interesting character. For example, he always complains about his tyres in every race but he still gains a victory at the end. Cheesy

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Quote from: justdimin on May 29, 2021, 01:46:47 PM

Quote from: rdbase on May 28, 2021, 04:29:38 PM

I think Hamilton will try and finish better than his last race as he didn't place in the top 3.

Last time Hamilton wasn't in a top three, he ended up going with one of the most incredible run of wins that I have seen from anyone ever, dude was the winner of almost all the remainder of the season except few races.
If Hamilton wins Baku which is called as a good Red Bull race once again because they are better at the short space compared to Hamilton being faster on straights, then we are going to see a huge Hamilton domination, he should lose so that this season is more competition filled, he will win a lot of races anyway and many races are given to him from the start, but Baku is a Max race and he should win if he loses races that he should win then Hamilton will just take the point difference to unreal levels once again and it will become a very boring season once again.
Honestly it is a very top heavy league right now, even if Hamilton retired today, we would just be watching Verstappen destroying everyone else, wouldn't really be fun that way neither.

Still, it will be much easier for Hamilton to win in Baku than to try to win after qualifying for the last race;) I respect the excellent level of skill of Hamilton and Verstappen, but I would not exaggerate to such an extent the factor of their personal participation in the race. As for Verstappen, I would like to say that when Ferrari was quite competitive a few years ago, Vettel was quite a serious competitor to Hamilton. As for the departure of Hamilton himself from racing and the likely dominance of Verstappen, I would like to recall the end of last season and the debut of Russell in Mercedes due to Hamilton's illness and what food for thought this gave rise to all those interested in this topic. Especially since there are persistent rumors that Russell will be Hamilton's team-mate next season. Well, let's not forget about the change of technical regulations for the next season, which can give rise to new leaders.

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Quote from: rdbase on May 28, 2021, 04:29:38 PM

I think Hamilton will try and finish better than his last race as he didn't place in the top 3.

He said that there won't be much change in the Azerbaijan GP for them also. But this time, I also think that he won't finish at a really bad position. I guess that lessons were taken from the Monaco GP. I expect him to see in top 3 this time.

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Quote from: rdbase on May 28, 2021, 04:29:38 PM

I think Hamilton will try and finish better than his last race as he didn't place in the top 3.

Last time Hamilton wasn't in a top three, he ended up going with one of the most incredible run of wins that I have seen from anyone ever, dude was the winner of almost all the remainder of the season except few races.

If Hamilton wins Baku which is called as a good Red Bull race once again because they are better at the short space compared to Hamilton being faster on straights, then we are going to see a huge Hamilton domination, he should lose so that this season is more competition filled, he will win a lot of races anyway and many races are given to him from the start, but Baku is a Max race and he should win if he loses races that he should win then Hamilton will just take the point difference to unreal levels once again and it will become a very boring season once again.

Honestly it is a very top heavy league right now, even if Hamilton retired today, we would just be watching Verstappen destroying everyone else, wouldn't really be fun that way neither.

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Quote from: dezoel on May 25, 2021, 01:51:24 PM

.. Bottas' car is still with that nut, they didn't remove it, in order to do that on the spot they would have to crash everything to get it out, so instead they will ship it with the tire and then they will remove it at factory without hurting anything else. I guess they need to be more ready in the future, they are so good that they got complacent about the car and what could go wrong, they will probably be better in the future and take it more seriously.

Yeah they couldn't take the wheel off for nearly two days after the race.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/how-bottas-pitstop-ended-up-being-43-hours-long/6516768

The next race is over a week away but better to get some feedback on what you all think about it earlier than less than a week.

As for Monaco:

I think Hamilton will try and finish better than his last race as he didn't place in the top 3.

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There are few talks after the race to be had that I just found out. First of all is the fact that the gearbox problem Lerclerc had turns out to be on the left one, I didn't even know that f1 cars had two gearboxes but turns out they do have two on each side and the problem he had wasn't on the right side where he crashed, it was the left side.

The mechanics obviously checked the right one because he crashed and that is understandable, but then they didn't checked the left one because he didn't hit that one, it is a mistake that anyone can make, then obviously when he had a problem on the left it was too late to fix it and that is the problem they faced, purely unlucky situation, if it was right I would say it was their fault but it was left so it was unlucky.

Second news is that Bottas' car is still with that nut, they didn't remove it, in order to do that on the spot they would have to crash everything to get it out, so instead they will ship it with the tire and then they will remove it at factory without hurting anything else. I guess they need to be more ready in the future, they are so good that they got complacent about the car and what could go wrong, they will probably be better in the future and take it more seriously.

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Quote from: boltz on May 23, 2021, 06:32:35 PM

Max Verstappen drove perfect from start to finish and a well deserved podium for Sainz and Norris too.

Max finally managed to beat Hamilton this season and well deserved as it was a long time coming! Wink

They even poked fun at Sainz asking if he had big balls to place along side with them.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/84969/verstappen-and-norris-poke-fun-at-sainz-guys-this-was-a-serious-question.html
Jokingly of course. Wink

Feels good for the Red Bull team as they see this win as a masterstroke and I do agree with this more so over with their performance in the Monaco Grand Prix. Cool

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/84967/international-press-praise-red-bull-that-was-a-masterstroke.html

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on May 24, 2021, 02:00:53 AM

Quote from: boltz on May 23, 2021, 06:32:35 PM

Max Verstappen drove perfect from start to finish and a well deserved podium for Sainz and Norris too.

It was a great race and great performance for all first 6!
Max got first place, well deserved, Carlos Sainz and Lando Norris have shown that they're great drivers and they have the right stuff for becoming rather soon the next generation of champions.
Perez is starting to get used with the car, there's hope that he will be able to help Max more often.
But Vettel did wonders there! And Gasly was not bad either remain in front of Lewis.

However, this race made the performance of the car matter less and the skill of the driver matter the most.
Too bad for Mercedes, it was bad luck too; also a bit sad for Leclerc, but there I don't know if it was utter bad luck or provoked bad luck.

Edit: fixed typo

Start-finish victory by Max Verstappen, very good performance by Sainz and Norris. Bad luck for Leclerc and Bottas but that can happen but overall a poor performance from Mercedes. In the next races where the car is decisive again, Mercedes will of course compete for victory again.

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Quote from: boltz on May 23, 2021, 06:32:35 PM

Max Verstappen drove perfect from start to finish and a well deserved podium for Sainz and Norris too.

It was a great race and great performance for all first 6!
Max got first place, well deserved, Carlos Sainz and Lando Norris have shown that they're great drivers and they have the right stuff for becoming rather soon the next generation of champions.
Perez is starting to get used with the car, there's hope that he will be able to help Max more often.
But Vettel did wonders there! And Gasly was not bad either remain in front of Lewis.

However, this race made the performance of the car matter less and the skill of the driver matter the most.
Too bad for Mercedes, it was bad luck too; also a bit sad for Leclerc, but there I don't know if it was utter bad luck or provoked bad luck.

Edit: fixed typo

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Well in the end Leclerc was right because he said in the interview after the qualifiers that he has always been unlucky on this track ...today result was the abandoned before the race even start. I was also shocked too see Mercedes pit-stop crew screwing up Bottas race because that tyre really got stuck there and they had to retire the care because the time lost was already enormous and you can't recover places on Monaco.

Max Verstappen drove perfect from start to finish and a well deserved podium for Sainz and Norris too.

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Just missed putting in my bet for the qualification race by a second.
Had the screen of the odds up on my screen then they were gone, the race just started so just have to watch it with no bets on the race.

We still have the main race tomorrow to bet on, the one that matters!
Here are the odds and so you can check your favorite drivers to win it all in Monaco! Cool

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Ferrari so strong yesterday whit a 1-2 in the FP2.

They can do the same in saturday or sunday or Mercedes wake up?

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The first free practice is over, RedBull and also Ferrari at the front Shocked

, I'm curious, can Ferrari hold this performance until Sunday? I think Monaco is a good track for RedBull due to the design "aerodynamic". Of course you shouldn't forget Mercedes Wink

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Thank you sportsbet for the promo Grin

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The jewel in the Formula race card is about to begin in just under 2 hours and run until sunday all weekend long.
That is F1 in Monaco! Cool

Here is the schedule:

Sportsbet also has a good promo for this practice run on no red flags @2.50x odds. So why not? Wink

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Quote from: Jackl87 on May 18, 2021, 07:58:38 AM

Have our standards already become so low that we consider the course of the current season to be exciting so far? Of the 4 races held so far, Hamilton has won 3 and once he was in 2nd place

Although it starts to somehow look like the previous season(s), it is interesting that there actually was a fight, proper strategy was needed and the victories were not as easy as in the past.
And by this I'd say it's for now a bit more interesting. Of course, only the results don't actually show this.

Quote from: coinlocket$ on May 16, 2021, 03:52:08 PM

Anyway, new colors for Mclaren for the GP.

Beautiful.

Beautiful indeed. On the other hand, Aston Martin cars are also beautiful, but that's not enough.
The difference from Ferrari is uncomfortably thin and it may easily disappear at Monaco...I think that McLaren has to try harder. They do have Mercedes engines after all...

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on May 17, 2021, 07:13:16 PM

The beauty of today's season is that, the expectation of Hamilton winning every race has been completely replaced as anyone is literally a contender now. The performance of Max Verstappen in this season in just phenomenal and he poses a serious threat to every race this season.

As far as I know, if there is any driver who is accustomed to the track of Monaco it is Charles Leclerc as he is from Monaco himself, so the chances of him at pole is definitely up there. I just really hope to see that Ferrari dominance like what happened during its glory days back in Schumacher's era.

Have our standards already become so low that we consider the course of the current season to be exciting so far? Of the 4 races held so far, Hamilton has won 3 and once he was in 2nd place, I can't for the life of me see any difference between this and previous seasons. Granted, the gap between Mercedes and Red Bull has seemingly narrowed, but Mercedes still has a clear lead.
The race in Monaco can't be compared to the rest of the tracks because the driver is a bigger factor here than at any other track, so it's really open this weekend as to who will win in the end.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on May 17, 2021, 09:57:33 AM

The engine from Ferrari is definitely better than last year, but I think that to the top it still lacks about ~20 hp. Mercedes and RedBull follow two different concepts, Mercedes weak aerodynamic and higher top speed (maybe also due to a more powerful engine than Honda) and RedBull more on aerodynamics. In my opinion, Ferrari is in between. They are not at the top here and there, but unlike last year with the inferior engine, they can still change that.

Yeah, I was just talking with my friend about formula and we wondered something and I am pretty sure someone from here could be wise enough about the sport to maybe know.

I do not know how much it costs to practice with these cars, and if they are freely allowed to do that, like let's say you have a place where you can lap freely for a thousand times and just can do that, instead of simulations and all that you just really use the car and drive around that track as long as you want, is that allowed?

If that is allowed, in theory can someone buy a massive massive massive land and build all the tracks there, 1 to 1 exact copy, give the real car to the drive and let him drive on each of them for thousands of laps burning all kinds of tires and damage the cars basically costing someone billions upon billions? I mean even though nobody would be able to afford or even want to afford such a thing, I wonder if it is even possible if one team decided to spend that much?

Since the new financial regulation of the FIA, all teams have a budget upper limit, and it is no longer possible to test and develop infinitely. The teams get test and wind tunnel time depending on their placement in the WM, for example the leader Mercedes has only 70 to 90% of the prescribed time and the last approx. 112 - 140% of the set hours, unfortunately I only have a German-language source for it. That % of testing change every year the past years so i don't know exactly for this year.

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/f1-budget-deckel-2021-inventarliste-crashs/

https://www.sport1.de/motorsport/formel1/2020/05/formel-1-fia-beschliesst-neue-regeln-was-bedeuten-budgetgrenze-open-source

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.everything-you-need-to-know-about-2021-pre-season-testing.44Li0lDRNfuz5vRjE2Qmwc.html

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Quote from: Koal-84 on May 10, 2021, 02:48:41 AM

Ferrari is a lot better than last year, but it seems as if the one or the other horsepower is missing from the engine to be at the forefront. Ferrari has definitely taken a step, but it's still a little too little for a podium or a win.

I think the engine is fine now.
I think the problem now is the ground effect in the top speed turns.

The next GP will be in Monaco and I think Ferrari can do a miracle here with a pole position since is the track where LeClerc lives and no top speeds or high-speed turns.
If he can do the perfect lap he can do the miracle.

Anyway, the Ferrari boss said they spent most of the time since 2020 for the 2022 car and this one should be only an update from 2020, maybe they even did too much for this season.

Hmm...does Ferrari have the quickest car to achieve P1 at Monaco ? Because we know that is hard to win without having the pole there but I guess surprises can appear anytime but personally I do see Max on pole because Red Bull has such good pace on tight corners and Monaco provides all of this for them. Mercedes has the best car on straight but I'm sure they will balance the car in order to give Hamilton a chance for pole.

The beauty of today's season is that, the expectation of Hamilton winning every race has been completely replaced as anyone is literally a contender now. The performance of Max Verstappen in this season in just phenomenal and he poses a serious threat to every race this season.

As far as I know, if there is any driver who is accustomed to the track of Monaco it is Charles Leclerc as he is from Monaco himself, so the chances of him at pole is definitely up there. I just really hope to see that Ferrari dominance like what happened during its glory days back in Schumacher's era.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on May 17, 2021, 09:57:33 AM

The engine from Ferrari is definitely better than last year, but I think that to the top it still lacks about ~20 hp. Mercedes and RedBull follow two different concepts, Mercedes weak aerodynamic and higher top speed (maybe also due to a more powerful engine than Honda) and RedBull more on aerodynamics. In my opinion, Ferrari is in between. They are not at the top here and there, but unlike last year with the inferior engine, they can still change that.

Yeah, I was just talking with my friend about formula and we wondered something and I am pretty sure someone from here could be wise enough about the sport to maybe know.

I do not know how much it costs to practice with these cars, and if they are freely allowed to do that, like let's say you have a place where you can lap freely for a thousand times and just can do that, instead of simulations and all that you just really use the car and drive around that track as long as you want, is that allowed?

If that is allowed, in theory can someone buy a massive massive massive land and build all the tracks there, 1 to 1 exact copy, give the real car to the drive and let him drive on each of them for thousands of laps burning all kinds of tires and damage the cars basically costing someone billions upon billions? I mean even though nobody would be able to afford or even want to afford such a thing, I wonder if it is even possible if one team decided to spend that much?

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