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After Max' puncture I was so angry, I expected the race end even worse. And it ended surprisingly well (sorry Lewis' fans).

Ferrari was disappointing again.
Mercedes went surprisingly well and if Lewis wouldn't have pushed so hard for the first place it would have been a pretty good second place, considering that Max abandoned and it's a city race, where it has been proven that their car doesn't perform well (I mean, Bottas just in front of Schumacher and Mazepin?...)

I was super angry on both Pirelli and RBR. RBR should have learned something from Stroll's puncture. I find Pirelli hard tyres quite shite for being "hard". And the teams went by Pirelli strategy... I hope that some questions will be asked there, something is not normal...

Well, all turned exceptionally well for Perez, Vettel (wow!) and Gasly. Congrats to them. I am curious if anybody have guessed this top3 Grin

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It was a chaotic end race that messed up everything but delivered pure joy with that podium as let's bet honest, Perez did a great job again, Vettel had a different strategy so he had to take care of his tyres and he did a great job and then Gasly who is so underrated and should search for a better car ( not RedBull ofc ).

Also , is it just me or Max had a strange trajectory on the circuit ( way too right ) when he had that puncture ?

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Too bad about that last sector with the rule of those red flags. Bizarre actually, a teammate could still diss you by parking his car against the guardrail, and then you get code red and the remaining sector is not driven out. Verstappen is now 3rd, Lewis 2nd, Will be very exciting tomorrow. Lewis needs another win after last time when it was a drama.

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Honestly it is still not looking like Lerclerc would win, sure he is in pole position but Mercedes and Red Bull have better cars and I believe they will do better. What is more possible for them is that they were fighting with McLaren on for the third spot in constructor and this looks like a good possibility that we could see them doing better, obviously not like instant situation but they do look like they could be doing better for one race at least.

At the end of the day it will once again be Max vs Lewis if you ask me, it is always between those two and will stay between those two and I do not think that it will change this race neither. I get that some races like monaco is a bit riskier for overtake, and Baku is sort of like that as well but I feel like at the top it is not like that, Hamilton will probably go beyond Charles this race and maybe even Max as well.

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Quote from: boltz on June 05, 2021, 06:43:51 AM

No no no! Don't take Mercedes guys because they really start to have big problem in that car as even they are saying that this time it will be the hardest challenge they faced so far in order to bring the balance back to the car and make Lewis fight for the title. So far , the car is not suited for street circuits so I don't expect a top 3 from Mercedes but I do expect Max to win the pole and the race.

Looks like steve was spot on about his prediction that Ferrari will do something that would surprise us all.
Saniz screwed up his car at the end of the qualifications but it allowed Lecleric to get pole going into the race tomorrow.
Just amazing!
And to top it all off Hamilton finished today in something like 9th place.
But he will be in a leaders position going into the main race tomorrow of course.

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No no no! Don't take Mercedes guys because they really start to have big problem in that car as even they are saying that this time it will be the hardest challenge they faced so far in order to bring the balance back to the car and make Lewis fight for the title. So far , the car is not suited for street circuits so I don't expect a top 3 from Mercedes but I do expect Max to win the pole and the race.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on June 04, 2021, 04:30:36 PM

Quote from: dezoel on June 04, 2021, 01:39:44 PM

Isn't it weird that Max never won in Baku before and Hamilton keeps winning there, and Max is still ahead of Hamilton in the odds? I mean sure we know the reason, we know Max is better in city circuits with walls instead of lines, and we know Red Bull cars are better in those circuits as well, whereas Hamilton will probably rely on his ungodly talent

Well, Hamilton did very bad at Monaco, Max leads now the drivers championship and in the first two practice sessions until now the top4 was RBR and Ferrari, while Lewis has finished on 11 and Bottas on 16.
Of course, it doesn't necessarily tell that Max will win, but it surely tells that things are not so well at Mercedes.
Right now RBR seems to have to watch out for Ferrari, since the car looks solid and they made even more upgrades before Baku race.
And I could almost bet that there will be at least one red flag in the race. So whatever we calculate now it may just be blown away.

It is not necessary to draw far-reaching conclusions from the two practical sessions, although of course the results of Mercedes are again depressing, but let's not forget that Bottas had problems with the flight from Finland to Azerbaijan and had to participate in the press conference in an online format. I am sure that by qualifying, the team mechanics will find better settings, because I do not think that Mercedes will fail for the second race in a row. In extreme cases, at least one of the drivers can make it to the podium. I would not be surprised if in Azerbaijan there is a fight between Bottas and Perez, and not between Hamilton and Verstappen as usual, especially if Mercedes solves the problems with the grip on the track.

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Quote from: dezoel on June 04, 2021, 01:39:44 PM

Isn't it weird that Max never won in Baku before and Hamilton keeps winning there, and Max is still ahead of Hamilton in the odds? I mean sure we know the reason, we know Max is better in city circuits with walls instead of lines, and we know Red Bull cars are better in those circuits as well, whereas Hamilton will probably rely on his ungodly talent

Well, Hamilton did very bad at Monaco, Max leads now the drivers championship and in the first two practice sessions until now the top4 was RBR and Ferrari, while Lewis has finished on 11 and Bottas on 16.
Of course, it doesn't necessarily tell that Max will win, but it surely tells that things are not so well at Mercedes.
Right now RBR seems to have to watch out for Ferrari, since the car looks solid and they made even more upgrades before Baku race.

And I could almost bet that there will be at least one red flag in the race. So whatever we calculate now it may just be blown away.

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Isn't it weird that Max never won in Baku before and Hamilton keeps winning there, and Max is still ahead of Hamilton in the odds? I mean sure we know the reason, we know Max is better in city circuits with walls instead of lines, and we know Red Bull cars are better in those circuits as well, whereas Hamilton will probably rely on his ungodly talent and Bottas will probably not be in top three if he doesn't get lucky, but that doesn't change the fact that Max is getting serious consideration over Hamilton these days and that is a very big change.

After seeing Hamilton win race after race, championship after championship, making F1 a very boring league because we all know he is the winner, this is getting a bit more fun isn't it? I mean surely we all know Mercedes and Red Bull are the only ones that can win and nobody else is even remotely close, but at least it is making it a bit more fun isn't it?

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I'm a betting man so I will go when the odds are calling. Cheesy

Red bull for me @1.99x is too hard to pass up and I went with Max Ver. to take Practice at the very least.

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Quote from: sportsbet.io on June 03, 2021, 04:09:01 AM

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I really like watching this race.. always something happens!

I wonder if Ferrari will surprise again?

Any thoughts?

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Quote from: rdbase on June 02, 2021, 12:00:26 PM

With only two sleeps away until the practice runs begin we have a difficult track in Azerbaijan which was cancelled in last years circuit.

source: https://honda.racing/f1/post/baku-setup

Hi Guys
I really like watching this race.. always something happens!

I wonder if Ferrari will surprise again?

Any thoughts?

Steve.

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With only two sleeps away until the practice runs begin we have a difficult track in Azerbaijan which was cancelled in last years circuit.

source: https://honda.racing/f1/post/baku-setup

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Quote from: jakdanyel on May 29, 2021, 06:25:14 PM

He is a really interesting character. For example, he always complains about his tyres in every race but he still gains a victory at the end. Cheesy

Well, he talks many times only "for the audience". And also he may have some coding for what he wants to say.
He knows that everybody listens, want to get any tiny big of clue about what his strategy is going to be, and obviously profit.

We cannot know if "a complaint about tyres" may actually mean that he can change 5 turns later than discussed, for example. Or maybe it's just "everything is fine".

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on May 29, 2021, 04:55:05 PM

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I think Hamilton will try and finish better than his last race as he didn't place in the top 3.

He said that there won't be much change in the Azerbaijan GP for them also. But this time, I also think that he won't finish at a really bad position. I guess that lessons were taken from the Monaco GP. I expect him to see in top 3 this time.

If Hamilton says something like that, it means he will do much better in that race surely. Grin

He is a really interesting character. For example, he always complains about his tyres in every race but he still gains a victory at the end. Cheesy

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Quote from: justdimin on May 29, 2021, 01:46:47 PM

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I think Hamilton will try and finish better than his last race as he didn't place in the top 3.

Last time Hamilton wasn't in a top three, he ended up going with one of the most incredible run of wins that I have seen from anyone ever, dude was the winner of almost all the remainder of the season except few races.
If Hamilton wins Baku which is called as a good Red Bull race once again because they are better at the short space compared to Hamilton being faster on straights, then we are going to see a huge Hamilton domination, he should lose so that this season is more competition filled, he will win a lot of races anyway and many races are given to him from the start, but Baku is a Max race and he should win if he loses races that he should win then Hamilton will just take the point difference to unreal levels once again and it will become a very boring season once again.
Honestly it is a very top heavy league right now, even if Hamilton retired today, we would just be watching Verstappen destroying everyone else, wouldn't really be fun that way neither.

Still, it will be much easier for Hamilton to win in Baku than to try to win after qualifying for the last race;) I respect the excellent level of skill of Hamilton and Verstappen, but I would not exaggerate to such an extent the factor of their personal participation in the race. As for Verstappen, I would like to say that when Ferrari was quite competitive a few years ago, Vettel was quite a serious competitor to Hamilton. As for the departure of Hamilton himself from racing and the likely dominance of Verstappen, I would like to recall the end of last season and the debut of Russell in Mercedes due to Hamilton's illness and what food for thought this gave rise to all those interested in this topic. Especially since there are persistent rumors that Russell will be Hamilton's team-mate next season. Well, let's not forget about the change of technical regulations for the next season, which can give rise to new leaders.

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Quote from: rdbase on May 28, 2021, 04:29:38 PM

I think Hamilton will try and finish better than his last race as he didn't place in the top 3.

He said that there won't be much change in the Azerbaijan GP for them also. But this time, I also think that he won't finish at a really bad position. I guess that lessons were taken from the Monaco GP. I expect him to see in top 3 this time.

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Quote from: rdbase on May 28, 2021, 04:29:38 PM

I think Hamilton will try and finish better than his last race as he didn't place in the top 3.

Last time Hamilton wasn't in a top three, he ended up going with one of the most incredible run of wins that I have seen from anyone ever, dude was the winner of almost all the remainder of the season except few races.

If Hamilton wins Baku which is called as a good Red Bull race once again because they are better at the short space compared to Hamilton being faster on straights, then we are going to see a huge Hamilton domination, he should lose so that this season is more competition filled, he will win a lot of races anyway and many races are given to him from the start, but Baku is a Max race and he should win if he loses races that he should win then Hamilton will just take the point difference to unreal levels once again and it will become a very boring season once again.

Honestly it is a very top heavy league right now, even if Hamilton retired today, we would just be watching Verstappen destroying everyone else, wouldn't really be fun that way neither.

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Quote from: dezoel on May 25, 2021, 01:51:24 PM

.. Bottas' car is still with that nut, they didn't remove it, in order to do that on the spot they would have to crash everything to get it out, so instead they will ship it with the tire and then they will remove it at factory without hurting anything else. I guess they need to be more ready in the future, they are so good that they got complacent about the car and what could go wrong, they will probably be better in the future and take it more seriously.

Yeah they couldn't take the wheel off for nearly two days after the race.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/how-bottas-pitstop-ended-up-being-43-hours-long/6516768

The next race is over a week away but better to get some feedback on what you all think about it earlier than less than a week.

As for Monaco:

I think Hamilton will try and finish better than his last race as he didn't place in the top 3.

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There are few talks after the race to be had that I just found out. First of all is the fact that the gearbox problem Lerclerc had turns out to be on the left one, I didn't even know that f1 cars had two gearboxes but turns out they do have two on each side and the problem he had wasn't on the right side where he crashed, it was the left side.

The mechanics obviously checked the right one because he crashed and that is understandable, but then they didn't checked the left one because he didn't hit that one, it is a mistake that anyone can make, then obviously when he had a problem on the left it was too late to fix it and that is the problem they faced, purely unlucky situation, if it was right I would say it was their fault but it was left so it was unlucky.

Second news is that Bottas' car is still with that nut, they didn't remove it, in order to do that on the spot they would have to crash everything to get it out, so instead they will ship it with the tire and then they will remove it at factory without hurting anything else. I guess they need to be more ready in the future, they are so good that they got complacent about the car and what could go wrong, they will probably be better in the future and take it more seriously.

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