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I would say that it would be better for them for sure. What would you prefer to have A)Pilots that will get injured but faster car that may get results while doing it or B)Slower car that doesn't hurt any of the drivers at all?

I would prefer to keep my pilots health to be fair, not like they would fall to bottom, they were doing this exact thing at the start of the season and they were still in points, which means that they may or may not be 5th and 6th or whatever, or get a podium, but they will get points and keep on going strong, not like they can win the season anymore anyway, it is obvious they lost, so it is better to find a way while keeping safety.

The problem is that Mercedes fought to slow down all the cars of competitors (this is a completely logical desire - if everything goes wrong, then something needs to be changed, suddenly it will be possible to gain an advantage after the changes), but now their car will be slowed down. I think they did not care about the health of the pilots, the game was different and now they completely lost it.
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Easy pole for Max, this was the best condiction for him.
With rain, RBR was panicking.

Astonishing second time for Alonso.

It will be a fun race with Perez and Leclerc in the pack.
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Well seems like the FIA put a rule so Mercedes need to raise the floor, lets see how bad this impact in their car.
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It looks like Mercedes got a completely different result for which it fought - after all, it was them who complained the most and now, in order to fulfill the FIA directive, they will have to take some design decisions that will reduce vertical shaking and obviously reduce the speed of the bollide. To be honest, I am very surprised by such a reasonable decision by the FIA, I wonder if Mercedes will honestly carry it out or sacrifice the "health of the pilots" about which they were so worried about for results.
I would say that it would be better for them for sure. What would you prefer to have A)Pilots that will get injured but faster car that may get results while doing it or B)Slower car that doesn't hurt any of the drivers at all?

I would prefer to keep my pilots health to be fair, not like they would fall to bottom, they were doing this exact thing at the start of the season and they were still in points, which means that they may or may not be 5th and 6th or whatever, or get a podium, but they will get points and keep on going strong, not like they can win the season anymore anyway, it is obvious they lost, so it is better to find a way while keeping safety.
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Who know how it will go, it should be a really interesting race tomorrow, considering that Ferrari has changed his motor and put inside his 4th  Shocked ; thanks for this, Leclerc will start his race at the last place and I hope that he

will end his race between first and third place, that isn't an easy thing, but also not impossible considering talent of this driver.
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There are three hours left for the Canadian GP qualifying session. I have followed the practice sessions so far and I can say that Verstappen seems very determined about winning the pole position. Leclerc is really unfortunate that he took a 10-place grid penalty for changing the control electronics of his car. If this is going to help Ferrari have an unproblematic engine then it is good that they are doing this now. Maybe Leclerc can have a big problem on winning race but it can help him a lot in the long run. About the qualifying session, I wonder if Leclerc is still going to be able to win the pole position to start from the 11th place at least.
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Ferrari has said that the break of motor in Baku was involved with something that was started in Spanish GP.  Now they said that situation is under control.

I really hope so, I would like to see a good result from them in this weekend, I bet for a pole position tomorrow, about the race who knows  Embarrassed Embarrassed
They haven't fixed it and did actually make it worse as @buwaytress has mentioned in his post above.
They need more parts during FP2 to repair it and was struck with a 10 place grid penalty right before the race on Sunday. He is need of a new para-unit element.
So he can not start the race no better than 11th place according to the sports media I was following right before the qualifying race.
It starts in about 6.5 hours from now so get buckled in.
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Yikes Ferrari man. I did say it'll be too soon to fix their engine issues for this race, but seems they found a way to make it even worse (and bad decision from LeClerc anyway).

Going to bite the bullet today and just strike Ferrari out from the podium actually. I know bad luck doesn't strike three times in the same place (it already did two though).
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Well seems like the FIA put a rule so Mercedes need to raise the floor, lets see how bad this impact in their car.
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It looks like Mercedes got a completely different result for which it fought - after all, it was them who complained the most and now, in order to fulfill the FIA directive, they will have to take some design decisions that will reduce vertical shaking and obviously reduce the speed of the bollide. To be honest, I am very surprised by such a reasonable decision by the FIA, I wonder if Mercedes will honestly carry it out or sacrifice the "health of the pilots" about which they were so worried about for results.
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Ferrari has said that the break of motor in Baku was involved with something that was started in Spanish GP.  Now they said that situation is under control.

I really hope so, I would like to see a good result from them in this weekend, I bet for a pole position tomorrow, about the race who knows  Embarrassed Embarrassed
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Well seems like the FIA put a rule so Mercedes need to raise the floor, lets see how bad this impact in their car.

Yes i see now you say Ferrari only want a competitive car and his goals for this years was to be again in the mix, but you are Ferrari you always have to fight for the win, for me and being a new one car with new rules sounds like excuses.
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Practice runs begin in about 2-3 hours so can not wait to see how each team has either improved on or failed to do anything about the bouncing issues that FIA using the procedure Parc Ferme.
Actually FP1 will start only in 6.5 hours from now. Way different time zone, since it's Canada.
Everything will happen kinda late this week-end.
Correct. The timezones are drastically different and we have skysports broadcasting them to us here so going from theirs it gets confusing.
Found a better estimation of when these practice races start from an North American site instead with EST time schedules:
https://www.espn.com/racing/schedule/_/series/f1

So in about 4.5 hours from now, of course it being a practice the exact start time is marginally different then what it actually is.

Thanks NeuroticFish!
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Practice runs begin in about 2-3 hours so can not wait to see how each team has either improved on or failed to do anything about the bouncing issues that FIA using the procedure Parc Ferme.

Actually FP1 will start only in 6.5 hours from now. Way different time zone, since it's Canada Wink
Everything will happen kinda late this week-end.
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We made it through another week so to see F1 in all it's everliving glory for the start of the weekend!
Practice runs begin in about 2-3 hours so can not wait to see how each team has either improved on or failed to do anything about the bouncing issues that FIA using the procedure Parc Ferme.
https://www.auto123.com/en/news/f1-technique-explaining-the-parc-ferme-procedure/35072/

Here are for each and every race their times from Skysports respectively:
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/12632676/canadian-grand-prix-when-is-the-race-in-montreal-live-on-sky-sports
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It is an indisputable fact that Ferrari are very good compared to the past years. Binotto said this in a statement he made on BBC recently: "We set our objectives to be back competitive in 2022. So our objective is to be competitive, not to win the championship, and it would be completely wrong to turn that into: 'Let's try to win the championship because we are so competitive.'' I also think that Tifosi are giving a good signal to the future seasons even if Ferrari don't become the champions this year.

Yup fans are both happy with results but unhappy because they could have a lot more points.

It is not over yet we are only at 1/3 of the championship, we will see.
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How bad its Ferrari doing? take a look on this.

Red Bull - Ferrari gap in constructor championship: 80 points.

Ferrari - Mercedes gap in constructor championship : 38 points.

So Mercedes its more close to Ferrari than Ferrari close to Red Bull. And this with a really bad Mercedes, imagine if Mercedes have a good car to fight. Good bye to Ferrari chance to win constructor if that pass.


They are doing badly, but still a big improvement since last year.
These cars are new they need to study them more to get good reliability.

Without the mechanical fails, Ferrari is the car to be beaten.

It is an indisputable fact that Ferrari are very good compared to the past years. Binotto said this in a statement he made on BBC recently: "We set our objectives to be back competitive in 2022. So our objective is to be competitive, not to win the championship, and it would be completely wrong to turn that into: 'Let's try to win the championship because we are so competitive.'' I also think that Tifosi are giving a good signal to the future seasons even if Ferrari don't become the champions this year.
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How bad its Ferrari doing? take a look on this.

Red Bull - Ferrari gap in constructor championship: 80 points.

Ferrari - Mercedes gap in constructor championship : 38 points.

So Mercedes its more close to Ferrari than Ferrari close to Red Bull. And this with a really bad Mercedes, imagine if Mercedes have a good car to fight. Good bye to Ferrari chance to win constructor if that pass.


They are doing badly, but still a big improvement since last year.
These cars are new they need to study them more to get good reliability.

Without the mechanical fails, Ferrari is the car to be beaten.
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In think the problem is real can affect less or more depends the team. For me the change if they made one need to be in the next season for no compromise the cars of now.

I cant belive how Red Bull fans can say anything against the FIA after the gift they do to them for Max to being the champion in the last season.

And i said this and i dont like Hamilton.
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I think the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve track is better suited for Ferrari and Red bull and their cars.
Mercedes still has issues with theirs and all this talk of porpoising which has been happen since the race in Spain.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mercedes-f1-explains-difference-between-porpoising-and-bouncing/10322630

Up to the point the teams are arguing about not having the FIA interfere with the decisions made about this issue but individual teams and their safety grounds.
"Horner, whose Red Bull team have been less affected by porpoising than many of their rivals, suspects some constructors are encouraging their drivers to complain vociferously about the physical effects in order to exert pressure on the FIA to open up a workaround in the rules on safety grounds."
source: https://www.planetf1.com/news/martin-brundle-mercedes-porpoising
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The head of Red Bull said in plain text that Mercedes, losing the competition, is trying to change the rules. And I completely agree with him - there is a technical solution to get rid of dolphining, so this is not a problem of regulations, but a problem of Mercedes. But maybe Mercedes' wishes will be satisfied - no one is interested in Red Bull being the undisputed champion long before the end of the season. How disgusting all this is (although it is reasonable from a business point of view)  Undecided
I think that, of course, there is also a political component, when the losing team demands to change the regulations and rules in order to have an advantage in the next stages of the competition.  But, I must say that dolphining really affects the health of the riders. 
By the way, many F1 teams are working hard to change the aerodynamics of the bottom of the car.  They come up with ribs and holes and something else.   Smiley
But the problem is still worth solving both technically and, possibly, adjusting the rules.Huh

If your car dolphining and the health of the pilots is deteriorating, then you must increase the gap between the bottom of the car and the road. Eeeeeezy solution isnt it? But you shouldn't force all teams to increase the gap. I haven't heard Red Bull complain about dolphining. It would be great if the federation fined Mercedes for causing harm to the health of the pilots and forced them to increase the clearance, but would not touch other teams  Grin It would be logical and fair.
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It annoys me how Hamilton and the rest of the Mercedes associates whine about the health hazards of bouncing/dolphining cars and that the regulations need to be changed because of this to keep the drivers healthy. Only a couple of teams have problems, the rest were able to make a good car and settings - why is it necessary to change the regulations because of a few losers? Let Mercedes increase the clearance to lose speed and to preserve the health of the riders.
Actually, it's not just Mercedes and Hamilton. Sainz, Gasly, Ricciardo also complained about bouncing. And on that ling straight it looked really painful.
Though, I'm not sure that changes in regulation is needed. As Norris said, teams can adjust height and reduce bouncing, but they will have to sacrisfy performance in this way.

The head of Red Bull said in plain text that Mercedes, losing the competition, is trying to change the rules. And I completely agree with him - there is a technical solution to get rid of dolphining, so this is not a problem of regulations, but a problem of Mercedes. But maybe Mercedes' wishes will be satisfied - no one is interested in Red Bull being the undisputed champion long before the end of the season. How disgusting all this is (although it is reasonable from a business point of view)  Undecided
I think that, of course, there is also a political component, when the losing team demands to change the regulations and rules in order to have an advantage in the next stages of the competition.  But, I must say that dolphining really affects the health of the riders. 
By the way, many F1 teams are working hard to change the aerodynamics of the bottom of the car.  They come up with ribs and holes and something else.   Smiley
But the problem is still worth solving both technically and, possibly, adjusting the rules.Huh
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