[FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September - page 11.

Bicknellski

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Quote from: bcp19 on October 18, 2013, 07:01:31 PM

Sixteen huh? You sound really sure about that, too bad you're wrong.

There's 16 in just the one assembly room, another 12 in the 2nd room, and 8 each in the 3rd and 4th rooms. Not to mention the Jalapeno's are outsourced, so there's even more assemblers there.

16 + 12 + 8 + 8 = Ineptitude.

The correction you make definitely points to the abject failure of this company to deliver anything on time and to specification. It also highlights the fact that Josh and BFL lie continuously about ship dates. Even with the 44 people you have counted they can't ship the backlog in a reasonable amount of time. People need to ask for refunds REFUSE their shipments at their doors and send them back and then sue BFL for their money / BTC back. Also this forum needs to stop taking advertizing money from BFL as they are clearly lying in their ads, on their website with regards to their products shipping dates.

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Quote from: joeventura on October 18, 2013, 10:32:42 AM

Quote from: BTCscraper on October 17, 2013, 08:14:17 PM

There's actually a wall in the last week of March that extends into April and ends in May, so if they're still at 50 or 60 employees today, the backlog could be stuck at 200+ days for the next few weeks.

50 or 60?? Where did you get that number?

There are EXACTLY 16 people assembling hardware. SIXTEEN

They won't hire more because the parts trickle in the door and assembled units trickle out the door.

By the time people who ordered gear in July/August of 2013 get theirs they will be like Block erupters.

50 or 60 includes those who are not assembling -- accounting, (nonexistent) customer service, top-heavy but incompetent executive team, (nonexistent) R&D, shipping dept, cleaning and maintenance.

Unacceptable

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Quote from: joeventura on October 18, 2013, 07:07:58 PM

Quote from: bcp19 on October 18, 2013, 07:01:31 PM

Quote from: joeventura on October 18, 2013, 10:32:42 AM

Quote from: BTCscraper on October 17, 2013, 08:14:17 PM

Quote from: chanson on October 17, 2013, 10:08:00 AM

Allow me to repost the totally bogus order depths chart that can't possibly be anything near reality and that in no way, shape or form suggests that shipping progress hits a wall in mid-late March. It also totally doesn't suggest that we've only made it 50%-60% of the way to the end of April's backorders.

There's actually a wall in the last week of March that extends into April and ends in May, so if they're still at 50 or 60 employees today, the backlog could be stuck at 200+ days for the next few weeks.

50 or 60?? Where did you get that number?

There are EXACTLY 16 people assembling hardware. SIXTEEN

They won't hire more because the parts trickle in the door and assembled units trickle out the door.

By the time people who ordered gear in July/August of 2013 get theirs they will be like Block erupters.

Sixteen huh? You sound really sure about that, too bad you're wrong.

There's 16 in just the one assembly room, another 12 in the 2nd room, and 8 each in the 3rd and 4th rooms. Not to mention the Jalapeno's are outsourced, so there's even more assemblers there.

Well I stand corrected, however my knowledge came from you when you said (paraphrasing) when you (or maybe it was PG) mentioned they hired 8 more to double their assembly team.

So (even more sad now) you are saying that they have 44 people doing assembly?

Did they ever reach 400 units a day? Hey with 44 people, making 9 units a day should be pretty easy.

Remember,ASIC's are hard,just ask ASICminer/Bitfury/KNC Cheesy

Oh & I don't know how Bitcoin works.....Josh said so Roll Eyes

joeventura

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Quote from: bcp19 on October 18, 2013, 07:01:31 PM

Quote from: joeventura on October 18, 2013, 10:32:42 AM

Quote from: BTCscraper on October 17, 2013, 08:14:17 PM

Quote from: chanson on October 17, 2013, 10:08:00 AM

Allow me to repost the totally bogus order depths chart that can't possibly be anything near reality and that in no way, shape or form suggests that shipping progress hits a wall in mid-late March. It also totally doesn't suggest that we've only made it 50%-60% of the way to the end of April's backorders.

There's actually a wall in the last week of March that extends into April and ends in May, so if they're still at 50 or 60 employees today, the backlog could be stuck at 200+ days for the next few weeks.

50 or 60?? Where did you get that number?

There are EXACTLY 16 people assembling hardware. SIXTEEN

They won't hire more because the parts trickle in the door and assembled units trickle out the door.

By the time people who ordered gear in July/August of 2013 get theirs they will be like Block erupters.

Sixteen huh? You sound really sure about that, too bad you're wrong.

There's 16 in just the one assembly room, another 12 in the 2nd room, and 8 each in the 3rd and 4th rooms. Not to mention the Jalapeno's are outsourced, so there's even more assemblers there.

Well I stand corrected, however my knowledge came from you when you said (paraphrasing) when you (or maybe it was PG) mentioned they hired 8 more to double their assembly team.

So (even more sad now) you are saying that they have 44 people doing assembly?

Did they ever reach 400 units a day? Hey with 44 people, making 9 units a day should be pretty easy.

bcp19

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Quote from: joeventura on October 18, 2013, 10:32:42 AM

Quote from: BTCscraper on October 17, 2013, 08:14:17 PM

Quote from: chanson on October 17, 2013, 10:08:00 AM

Allow me to repost the totally bogus order depths chart that can't possibly be anything near reality and that in no way, shape or form suggests that shipping progress hits a wall in mid-late March. It also totally doesn't suggest that we've only made it 50%-60% of the way to the end of April's backorders.

There's actually a wall in the last week of March that extends into April and ends in May, so if they're still at 50 or 60 employees today, the backlog could be stuck at 200+ days for the next few weeks.

50 or 60?? Where did you get that number?

There are EXACTLY 16 people assembling hardware. SIXTEEN

They won't hire more because the parts trickle in the door and assembled units trickle out the door.

By the time people who ordered gear in July/August of 2013 get theirs they will be like Block erupters.

Sixteen huh? You sound really sure about that, too bad you're wrong.

There's 16 in just the one assembly room, another 12 in the 2nd room, and 8 each in the 3rd and 4th rooms. Not to mention the Jalapeno's are outsourced, so there's even more assemblers there.

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Quote from: absinth on October 18, 2013, 01:02:49 PM

Quote from: Blazed on October 18, 2013, 10:59:20 AM

Why are they still allowed to advertise here?!?! I do not understand how the forums let newbs get sucked into this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkhX5W7JoWI

Well played good sir!

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Quote from: Threader on October 18, 2013, 10:22:50 AM

Poor folks waiting for their Summer 2013 orders or even worse Monarch

“A blind man, in a dark room, looking for a black cat that isn’t there”

If he's blind, the darkness of the room and color of the cat are irrelevant.

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Quote from: absinth on October 18, 2013, 01:02:49 PM

Quote from: Blazed on October 18, 2013, 10:59:20 AM

Why are they still allowed to advertise here?!?! I do not understand how the forums let newbs get sucked into this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkhX5W7JoWI

LOL a video laymen explanation

absinth

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Quote from: Blazed on October 18, 2013, 10:59:20 AM

Why are they still allowed to advertise here?!?! I do not understand how the forums let newbs get sucked into this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkhX5W7JoWI

Threader

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Quote from: joeventura on October 18, 2013, 11:17:16 AM

I predict this clown is out of a Job (tasked with fleecing marks) come 2014

Every two weeks of 2014 he is still there then "it will be two more weeks" until it happens.

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Quote from: Blazed on October 18, 2013, 10:59:20 AM

Why are they still allowed to advertise here?!?! I do not understand how the forums let newbs get sucked into this...

Because Theymos lacks scruples or social conscience.

Syke

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Quote from: k9quaint on October 18, 2013, 10:17:12 AM

Shouldn't Inaba/Josh be swinging by to add insult to injury about now?

I'm sure he will...in two weeks.

joeventura

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Well "Two Weeks or so" is officially up today (since BFL does not ship on the weekends)

so unless they get to the end of April today (Bwhahahahahha) they will again have missed clearing April in "2 weeks or so"

Monday starts "3 weeks"

Should be 5 to 6 more weeks until they clear April (so Mid November) so they will have missed
"Clearing April by the end of September" by 6 weeks.

For those of you who have not yet caught on. Josh knows this, he knows he won't make any of his predictions.
His predictions in fact are not predictions but well crafted statements to intentionally put hope into customers.

At this point there is not much left at risk for BFL, all their Paypal money is gone, now just credit card chargebacks and the AG and FTC

One final prediction from me (and any person who can do 5th grade math) BFL will fail to get the 65nm line cleared by January 1st 2014 or for that matter by March of 2014.

Blazed

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Why are they still allowed to advertise here?!?! I do not understand how the forums let newbs get sucked into this...

joeventura

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Quote from: k9quaint on October 18, 2013, 10:17:12 AM

Shouldn't Inaba/Josh be swinging by to add insult to injury about now?

Josh will be nothing but a distant bad memory by 2014.

joeventura

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Quote from: BTCscraper on October 17, 2013, 08:14:17 PM

Quote from: chanson on October 17, 2013, 10:08:00 AM

Allow me to repost the totally bogus order depths chart that can't possibly be anything near reality and that in no way, shape or form suggests that shipping progress hits a wall in mid-late March. It also totally doesn't suggest that we've only made it 50%-60% of the way to the end of April's backorders.

There's actually a wall in the last week of March that extends into April and ends in May, so if they're still at 50 or 60 employees today, the backlog could be stuck at 200+ days for the next few weeks.

50 or 60?? Where did you get that number?

There are EXACTLY 16 people assembling hardware. SIXTEEN

They won't hire more because the parts trickle in the door and assembled units trickle out the door.

By the time people who ordered gear in July/August of 2013 get theirs they will be like Block erupters.

Threader

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