Topic: [FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September - page 5. (Read 69482 times)

Yes you are an asshattery, nut baggery, douche canoeing, twat waffling troll!!

(did I say that right Josh?)

Well, it was going to come out sooner or later.

Speaking of dinner, did you know that I'm heading to Florida to orchestrate Thanksgiving at Satoshi Forest to feed the homeless? I'm leaving out next Sunday and won't be back home to probably the following Monday.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi2_Exm88RI

Wow, could you stoop any lower?

I don't think Darin here is filled with hate, BCP.  He's just so devoid of anything interesting or positive in his life that his only joy is trolling on the internet.  It's a common problem for people like him.  They have nothing meaningful in their life, so they seek out attention and camaraderie through posting lies and misinformation to drum up drama wherever they go.  It's pretty fascinating to watch the mental gymnastics Bick has to go through to get to where he is. He is Olympic level nutbaggery by anyones measure... it's just a shame he's allowed contact with children, who knows what kind of damage he does with his little illegal "school" he runs in the Philippines.

Sorry, but 99.99% of the complaints *I* see boil down to "Wah, wah, wah, my money making machine won't make the money I thought it would, I want a refund".  You point to yourself as a paragon of virtue in having refunded your hapless customers when you couldn't deliver, but you were able to get a refund yourself on the chips you only bought and did not have to create from scratch.  You had no research or development costs, you just piggybacked on the success of others and so it was easy for you to refund since you bore little of the expense.  You obviously disagree, but these are basically special orders being made.  Orders were taken and quantities of product were bought to satisfy those orders.  Unlike you, they can't call up the chip foundry and ask for a refund on chips they no longer need due to refunds.  As had been stated MANY times, refunds were allowed up until they started full production.  They even had it mandatory that you had to agree to the terms or by default you'd be refunded.

Sorry dude, but I could care less about people and their greed having buyers remorse.  I did my research before buying and I've made several BTC while waiting for my purchase to be filled and have turned those into even more with judicious market management.  Looking at the blogs, my Jalapeno should ship soon and at current rates I'll be making ~$4 a day.  To me that's a win as I'll be making more with it than I was with my GPU when I placed my order and it'll cost me a LOT less for power usage.

Face it dude, you're just a broken record stuck on the same tune over and over again.  Maybe you need to go relax, take a vacation, all this hate must be causing your blood pressure to rise to unhealthy levels. 

I will,I don't like lyers,cheats,thieves or those who take bribes (which includes most of our politicians,if not all).That's what it is to me,a bribe to keep quiet.I say Bullshit!!!!!!!!

Try to extort me & you'll be swiming with gators,as soon as you turn your back or wander to far from civilization 

I hope Phin chokes on some dinner he buys with that 10BTC   

Yup... more to it that is for sure.

Phin getting "starstruck" by bfl's suckup kool-aid was really saddening

 I don't want to speak ill of Phin. I do have some concern, however, about his sudden change-of-heart and the backstory behind it.

 Something just doesn't feel right about that "relationship" to me, like Phin is being threatened in some way we aren't aware of.

 It's not normal for a songbird like him to suddenly stop singing his tune.

Well,let's see,Phin gets 10BTC for shuttin the fuck up    Phin has no balls or hes got a skeleton in the closet that Josh knows about & is extorting him with it...the latter is my best guess 

How much you getting BCP,to praise BFL 

How many thousands of complaints does one have to read and delete or ignore before people get fed up and report it to the FTC or the AG in Kansas.

Remarkably you want to ignore the plight of 100s who have had to fight tooth and nail to get refunds and still 100s more who are still expecting BFL to refund them according to FTC regulations.

Why do you continually ignore the plight of 100s of people?

Obviously you are being "paid" in some manner to defend BFL as no one can be that obtuse or sociopathic when it comes to the financial pain of hundreds who have every right to expect refunds. At this point it there is little evidence to support that BFL is a reputable supplier of ASIC mining equipment. They refused to provide refunds. Their own website is purposefully using double speak and unclear really on when these next units will ship. Coupled with a ALL SALES ARE FINAL stipulation should warn off everyone from anything BFL. There are plenty of other competitors that will ship, that have shipped and who have rightly and honestly given refunds.
 
Sad... just sad. You and Inaba are not going to fool anyone here with this diatribe. BFL will get a 28nm out to the market behind at least 3 or 4 other fabricators given their own timeline.

DO NOT BUY BFL PRODUCTS. SIMPLE SOLUTIONS FOR US ALL. Especially when it won't make a dime.

+1000

@ Joshie
Do you really think shipping my cancelled order and ignoring my emails removes your liability to refund under FTC requirements.

This issue is not resolved and you are not welcome here, take yourself and sock puppets back to your own self-moderated forums where you can be king of scum.

How long will it take to get 100 x 300 Gh/s Monarch in customers hands? Let us go off of what BFL posted.

https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage-new-products/300-gh-bitcoin-mining-card.html

Tape out has not been completed so customers are currently waiting a "few" weeks for that to happen. No dates have been given nor will they I suspect but let us again tabulate for potential customers buying a Monarch today.

2 to 3 weeks in their own admission to complete that task of tapeout.
10 weeks at the foundry for the chips.
2 weeks Bumping, Slicing & BGA packaging
3 weeks to "ramp" up to full shipping. (Prototype Testing?)

That is a minimum of 17 weeks even by their estimation from today and given there is no room for testing the chip package on the Monarch you can imagine what it going to happen again. 19 weeks is more likely and given BFL's track record you could expect 7 months are more for delivery since they really haven't improved at all in terms of shipping their products more efficiently in fact the numbers indicate as Joeventura has posted they are slower now than they have been in the past increasing delays to 8 months of a backlog.

They admit to a minimum of 3 MONTHS OR MORE in the fine print. If you do the calculations for a 300 GH/s at 2800$ plus shipping in March or April of 2014 and possibly a lot later more likely May 2014 if you order today you are going to not make anything in fact you will probably receive a unit that will only lose money in USD terms do to electricity costs. This product is DOA. Do not BUY IT.

What other parts do these Monarchs need?

PSU
Cabling
Controller / Mobo.

Are we adding that into the $2800 people?  I hope you are.



4U Enclosure ($$$$)
Motherboard ($$$$)
Multiple ATX Power Supplies ($$$$)
Heatsinks ($$$$)
Waterblocks ($$$$)

FUD is that like Asshattery and Trolling?

Use your big boy words.

You come here and bitch because:

A. Bitching at the proper place is what BFL? Who don't answer phones, take months to return emails, don't provide refunds when required by law to do so? Make endless "estimates" on shipping and miss them all?

B. To Make us feel better that hopefully just 1 person will be driven away from given their cash to BFL.

C. To highlight the worst customer service in the BTC industry and show others what NOT to do.

D. To give it right back to Josh Zerlan

I'd say from the cold calls to previous customers, the silence of the BFL shoutbox and the tons of folks dumping their recently delivered BFL gear. Mission Accomplished.

He is right though, why would anyone who has problems come here and bitch and moan instead of going to the proper place?  Obviously to created FUD.  The guy that goes on about the power supply over and over is obviously one of these since a replacement could be gotten by RMAing the bad one, but hey, why do that when you can act like stated above and show your true colors in the process?

Bick... you're too hung up on asking about things I am not involved in, I'm not exactly on the board of directors nor am I an engineer working on the designs, so how could I know the answers to your questions?  As to the bets, 10BTC is more than I care to wager even if it were a 'sure thing' cause even sure things fail now and again (kinda like BPM).

Instant classic, lol he's a real gem that's for sure!

OH do the monumental assholes one please.