Topic: FAIRLAY - SPORTS BETTING for experts - highest liquidity, provably best odds - page 26. (Read 135649 times)

Well they use it as a mixer since some gambling site don't really charge a lot compared to mixing services. Also, they can deposit an infinite amount of times into the site and output it to one address with the sending address being different from the address they deposited with. This is quite similar to exchanges. Problem is, these casinos and exchanges keep logs of such things and in the event they are required by the government to present those data, then you are exposed. Unlike what mixers promises. Not to mention usually this act is prohibited by the ToS of most gambling sites.

How is a withdrawal of deposited funds an "abuse"?
Just charge a good fee on the withdrawal, and that's it.
I don't understand why people would use a gambling site as a mixer when ChipMixer has such a straightforward service.

 Operating a Bitcoin Mixing service is considered illegal in many jurisdictions or extremly shady at best. For that and many other reasons we will continue to ban people who are abusing Fairlay. Banning abusive clients and criminals is however only possible with KYC procedures.  We will not pay out funds to customers who abused Fairlay and failed to establish their identity.  

Just play by the rules and our terms and conditions and you are fine like 99.9% of our customers.  

I haven't observed what Fairlay does but with other sites, if someone deposits like 1BTC which is substantial and loses half of it and tries to withdraw 0.5BTC. The withdraw will still most likely get flagged and need manual review.

The withdraw amount doesn't matter what matters is where the deposit originates from.

One example is the ETH hack from 2016 which sold some ETC on shape shift and now they might want to mix those BTC.

Since it's all on the blockchain, the casino might be liable for not having any compliance.

seriously I don't get it , why if someone deposit and gamble portion of the money in fairlay the don't suspect that the account is shady but if he deposited and not wagered they count it shady
people can deposit and not wager , maybe that account missed the odds he wanted when he got the money

it just doesn't make sense for a btc site to ask for verification IMO , but anyways it's not a big deal if fairlay is doing the verification quick and sending the money  right after

Lately these types of issues are all becoming very controversial matters.

Very similarly on Bitsler someone deposited a large amount, made one bet and requested a withdraw. The withdraw was held under suspicion.

Long story short. Bitsler sent it back to the deposit address source and user was happy. User didn't want to provide private ID either.

"shady" you mean the BETG was shady....if you are attempting to use Fairlay BTC site as a 'mixer" and not wager then go use another site and take your chances.."customers" use wagering sites to wager not attempt illicit criminal activities...you must be an ignorant shill

That is a shady thing to do to their customers. I thought only sportsbet.io does this to their customers from their last couple of posts on their thread.
As I just heard of fairlay and seeing they have these incidents happening on their site too
well then nitrogensports is looking more and more appealing for those who wish not to have their funds locked into an account that is rendered useless to them unless they submit their id so to have their winnings withheld until they do.
Sounds alot like holding your balance for ransom before being released if you ask me.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.31000587

with that type of account history any other real sportsbook/exchange would have looked passed the bug for sure. That is all i am saying.
If you guys changed my withdrawal amount, i would be a lot more pissed than this guy. that is for damn sure.
Do not even deal with the nonsense no more, move to nitrogensports. they will appreciate your business and give you no hassles.
i withdrew 0.25 btc and got it in 3 minutes today. That is not a lot judging from your account history, but it's so much better than these other places.

nitrogensports .eu

is there not anything you can with the exchange being so different today?

i really want to continue using your book fairlay Sad

but just throw me a bone, and my business will stay.

Like i said if you can offer that many tracks, I can guarantee you a lot more business from my end

We had to send money to your account  because your account was negative before.

why does it say balance 0.04 and 0.08 if I owed you

12/17/2016 18:19   mBTC   40.00   0.04   Other
12/17/2016 18:09   mBTC   39.30   0.08   Other



These are the two credits  that you owed us. 

i had high hopes with fairlay after using their service but i am just blown away by their response. Nothing they can do? when it was a misgrade on their end 2 years ago and they have allowed me to deposit several times after this and not brought it up? Not 1 email, not 1 thing in my statement history, nothing. But whatever.

here is my statement history FYI. How am i supposed to know my account was negative? Before I made my first deposit recently, my account statement said 0.04 balance and that was my balance when i Logged in.

nothing about a misgrade i can tell. Oh well. I am done with it. They will lose my business.


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02/19/2018 01:42   mBTC   199.90   199.95   DEPOSIT
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fairlay so you robbed this person $600 with exchange differences?

there is nothing you can do...i really dont believe that

but this just reiterates why i dont play with shitty books
they do shitty stuff like this to the customer.

i feel bad for you suneholder. Dont ever use them again and go with nitrogensports is the answer man

It is from a misgrade and there is nothing we can do about it. Please check your statement for details.   Our system doesn't allow negative balances by design. 

if its from a misgrade then you have every reason to bitch after 2 years and nothing shown in the account reflecting that till now

Has fairplay emailed you regarding what they will do? And what was the bug?

this is some backyard bullshit from fairplay in my eyes.

the fact they even did this and did not just let it go, makes me question their sense of customer service

I think that the fact THEY had a bug from 2 years ago(!!) and they will now give you the penalty of paying it back is horrible. Not to mention that the value of the 79mbtc two years ago would be a fraction of what it's worth today.

Fairlay, give the dude his money back, what you've done now just shows an incredible lack of customer service.