I would like to apologize for saying that there was a problem with my withdrawal. It was completely my error and I don't mean to detract form the brand what-so-ever I was withdrawing exactly how much it said I had and I believe that it does round up from the actual amount so if you end up withdrawing what it says you'll have insufficient funds.
I'll also add to the conversation that I think that Fairlay is a very good if not the best btc exchange. I have used the following sites, Nitrogensports, betcoin, vegascasino, fairlay, mbitcasino, and several others. Of more than 8 btc sites I have used fairlay 95% of the time offers the best odds. And if they don't they probably will in the next hour or so. If you've never used an exchange it may be a bit harder than the other sites to get accustomed to and occasionally the back bet has the wrong sign like 276 rather than -276, but THOSE ARE THE ONLY issues I have ever had with them. I will continue to use Fairlay as I believe that they have a great gig going on and they'll only get better.
Sorry again for the mix-up with withdrawal!
-Nick
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June 16, 2016, 06:51:47 PM
June 16, 2016, 05:34:53 PM
Worth noting that the guy above runs http://www.btcwagering.com/ according to his profile, which appears to be a rather poor and thinly veiled advertising platform for competing sites.
Thanks for the plug! Nothing is veiled about BTC Wagering -- we exist precisely for this reason; to recommend *reputable* BTC-based sites where people *won't have a problem getting their payouts.*
NB. None of the sites we advertise suck. My experience with Fairlay most certainly sucked to the extreme. Thinking you got scammed out of your money for 2 days is the worst feeling in the world, trust me. And when your withdrawal isn't being processed and the operator isn't responding, I generally think I've been scammed.
Nitrogen for example operates in Costa Rica where it's actually legal to run a sportsbook without a license. Is it legal in London?
NO!!!
And I was expecting more than 10mBTC based on the fact I was betting 2BTC and had such a bad experience. But it's fine and consistent with their "we don't give a crap" behavior that they said no.
I think others will find value in the info I've presented based on actually using the site (and obviously wanting it to be good).
As for you, thanks for the plug
Nitrogen claims to operate out of Costa Rica, great. Say that tomorrow the site disappears, together with all of the funds. What will you do? Give it a bad rating on your website? Catch the soonest flight out of your home in the US to Costa Rica?
I'm genuinely curious what you find so attractive about Nitrogen (apart from them paying you).
The objective fact is that Fairlay offer better lines (odds) than Nitrogen do.
To think that after two years and 30 pages of forum feedback the site operators would fake a server error to steal your 2BTC is hysterical and ridiculous. Why would the site operators need to bribe you? Are you also expecting reimbursement when you lose bets?
June 16, 2016, 02:48:15 PM
Worth noting that the guy above runs http://www.btcwagering.com/ according to his profile, which appears to be a rather poor and thinly veiled advertising platform for competing sites.
Thanks for the plug! Nothing is veiled about BTC Wagering -- we exist precisely for this reason; to recommend *reputable* BTC-based sites where people *won't have a problem getting their payouts.*
NB. None of the sites we advertise suck. My experience with Fairlay most certainly sucked to the extreme. Thinking you got scammed out of your money for 2 days is the worst feeling in the world, trust me. And when your withdrawal isn't being processed and the operator isn't responding, I generally think I've been scammed.
Nitrogen for example operates in Costa Rica where it's actually legal to run a sportsbook without a license. Is it legal in London?
NO!!!
And I was expecting more than 10mBTC based on the fact I was betting 2BTC and had such a bad experience. But it's fine and consistent with their "we don't give a crap" behavior that they said no.
I think others will find value in the info I've presented based on actually using the site (and obviously wanting it to be good).
As for you, thanks for the plug
June 16, 2016, 02:33:39 PM
Worth noting that the guy above runs http://www.btcwagering.com/ according to his profile, which appears to be a rather poor and thinly veiled advertising platform for competing sites.
Plus all his "points" essentially boil down to:
1) The support is rather slow. Possibly, in the sense that perhaps the staff don't sit in a chatroom on the site spouting nonsense like on nitrogen or whatever, but in my experience it's not "weeks" slow.
2) It's not clear who the staff are and if/where they're licensed. Valid point, but valid for the majority of bitcoin-based platforms as I see it.
3) He didn't receive his precious 10mbtc bounty for pointing out that stuff is broken while the servers were down.
Plus all his "points" essentially boil down to:
1) The support is rather slow. Possibly, in the sense that perhaps the staff don't sit in a chatroom on the site spouting nonsense like on nitrogen or whatever, but in my experience it's not "weeks" slow.
2) It's not clear who the staff are and if/where they're licensed. Valid point, but valid for the majority of bitcoin-based platforms as I see it.
3) He didn't receive his precious 10mbtc bounty for pointing out that stuff is broken while the servers were down.
June 16, 2016, 01:34:51 PM
Be advised that our support is only reachable via the uservoice interfaces on our website. We also check in here from time to time.
We have given a few bug bounties as a gesture of good will in the past. We do not give any guarantees that you receive one. Once again, your "matching problem" was indirectly caused by the server failure and we do not give a bounty for that.
Some of your points were already addressed in this thread. Maybe you find time to read the forum history and our FAQ.
We have given a few bug bounties as a gesture of good will in the past. We do not give any guarantees that you receive one. Once again, your "matching problem" was indirectly caused by the server failure and we do not give a bounty for that.
Some of your points were already addressed in this thread. Maybe you find time to read the forum history and our FAQ.
Ya, I contacted you via uservoice and the support was still very bad. Slow and flaky are words that come to mind. And like I said, you should have been reaching out to us (customers) to assure us that everything would be ok. Instead we were sweating for 2 days.
And trust me, during those 2 days I read every forum post and was kicking myself for depositing with you in the first place. Plenty of people besides me have concluded that you haven't proven the solvency of your platform.
I was giving you a chance to keep me around with some comps, so I could see if you improve without risk to me. But I won't be depositing with you again and I recommend that others don't as well.
June 16, 2016, 12:56:38 PM
Be advised that our support is only reachable via the uservoice interfaces on our website. We also check in here from time to time.
We have given a few bug bounties as a gesture of good will in the past. We do not give any guarantees that you receive one. Once again, your "matching problem" was indirectly caused by the server failure and we do not give a bounty for that.
Some of your points were already addressed in this thread. Maybe you find time to read the forum history and our FAQ.
We have given a few bug bounties as a gesture of good will in the past. We do not give any guarantees that you receive one. Once again, your "matching problem" was indirectly caused by the server failure and we do not give a bounty for that.
Some of your points were already addressed in this thread. Maybe you find time to read the forum history and our FAQ.
June 16, 2016, 11:42:53 AM
Not sure what this post is about
It's about advising people not to bet on your site. The reasons were spelled out. I'd be happy to expand on them though if you are doing more than just being snarky.
Every operator knows that if something bad happens to your site / app, you quickly respond to the community to ease their fears. But you most certainly did not. That alone is a big reason not to play with you.
PS: it's impossible that all of the bugs I reported were cause by your server failure.
June 16, 2016, 09:56:00 AM
Not sure what this post is about, but your are not getting any bug bounty from us. You joined at an unfortunate moment. One of our servers crashed and we tried to bring everything back online - of course lots of things were not working as expected during that time. All bugs you reported were directly or indirectly caused by the server failure.
Our withdrawals are instant on more than 360 days a year.
@nicholasg97 there are no outstanding withdrawals.
Our withdrawals are instant on more than 360 days a year.
@nicholasg97 there are no outstanding withdrawals.
June 16, 2016, 09:55:09 AM
I'm also having issues withdrawing funds, hadn't had any issue before though...
June 16, 2016, 09:13:21 AM
To anyone considering playing with Fairlay:
I recommend staying away from these guys.
Bottom line: Don't risk it with Fairlay.
I recommend staying away from these guys.
- They don't seem trustworthy. I feel fortunate to have escaped with funds in tact after waiting 2 day for a withdrawal but you may not be so lucky.
- Many people have talked about the apparent liquidity in their markets versus the reserves they have shown. Short version: they haven't given enough proof to believe they are solvent versus the huge bets offered on their site.
- Another problem is that we don't know if they are licensed. They claim to be located in London, but is it believable? Not really.
- Their site is barely functional. As an example, their "exchange" doesn't match market makers with intersecting offers automatically. This is absolutely a most basic function of an exchange and theirs didn't even do that in my experience.
- The support is horrible. Based on how long it took them to respond to any of my attempts (BCTalk, email, Facebook, Twitter) I really thought they had run off with my money.
- Now they're lying about being aware of the bugs I reported. As you can see in this thread I informed them that their matching wasn't working properly and now they claim they "already knew" which makes no sense.
- They're using the likeness of Vitalik Buterin to promote their brand and lend credibility to it. Something tells me Vitalik doesn't actually endorse them.
Bottom line: Don't risk it with Fairlay.
June 15, 2016, 08:10:33 PM
@elite the bet should be resolved now. Usually only these bets are resolved where the resolution date has passed. In the other cases we need assistance from our users.
@justbc We were already aware of the bugs when you posted them. We can only give out a bonus if you inform us about something new.
@negato We are improving our search right now. It is going to be much better than before.
@Omnivion The market https://www.fairlay.com/predict/registered/new/next-president-11/ should be the final one. Unfortunately we can't merge older markets.
We also changed our design a little bit and worked on the speed of the site.
Also keep an eye on our live section: https://www.fairlay.com/event/category-decimal/live/
It is work in progress, but matches from the EURO 2016 should already be available.
@justbc We were already aware of the bugs when you posted them. We can only give out a bonus if you inform us about something new.
@negato We are improving our search right now. It is going to be much better than before.
@Omnivion The market https://www.fairlay.com/predict/registered/new/next-president-11/ should be the final one. Unfortunately we can't merge older markets.
We also changed our design a little bit and worked on the speed of the site.
Also keep an eye on our live section: https://www.fairlay.com/event/category-decimal/live/
It is work in progress, but matches from the EURO 2016 should already be available.
June 15, 2016, 05:06:10 PM
Still waiting on this from April, any progress? Also applies to markets like dem/repub nominee.
Also, is there a reason you keep incrementing betting markets?
For example, something like
https://www.fairlay.com/predict/registered/new/next-president-10/
gets changed to
https://www.fairlay.com/predict/registered/new/next-president-11/
In addition to clearing out all the bets on order, this also means that if I were to place a bet and it starts doing well, I can't hedge the bet later on by taking the opposite side (since the site would treat it as an entirely different bet/market). I'd just end up with money stuck on both sides of the bet until the event is finished and potentially pay a much greater fee. That could be very annoying for bets with a far-away resolution time.
For example, something like
https://www.fairlay.com/predict/registered/new/next-president-10/
gets changed to
https://www.fairlay.com/predict/registered/new/next-president-11/
In addition to clearing out all the bets on order, this also means that if I were to place a bet and it starts doing well, I can't hedge the bet later on by taking the opposite side (since the site would treat it as an entirely different bet/market). I'd just end up with money stuck on both sides of the bet until the event is finished and potentially pay a much greater fee. That could be very annoying for bets with a far-away resolution time.
@Omnivion
We are sorry about this issue. Every time a runner leaves, a new market is created right now. We will see what we can do...
We are sorry about this issue. Every time a runner leaves, a new market is created right now. We will see what we can do...
@Omnivion we are confident, we can solve the issue with the newly created presidential election markets before the next runner leaves.
June 15, 2016, 03:15:25 PM
The search doesn't seem to be working for MLB. Worked fine on the mobile site, just not the desktop
June 14, 2016, 06:33:41 PM
Yes, from time to time unless the "bug" is a feature. @justbc
Obviously the bugs I ran into aren't "features."
You implied as much when you said they were all fixed.
You've given out bounties recently in this thread, so why not me?
June 13, 2016, 03:26:55 PM
Hi!
Why this bet not resolved?
https://www.fairlay.com/predict/registered/new/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-sep-2016/
Why this bet not resolved?
https://www.fairlay.com/predict/registered/new/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-sep-2016/
Ok, it is closed now.
But when it will be resolved to Yes side?
June 13, 2016, 04:13:53 AM
Hi!
Why this bet not resolved?
https://www.fairlay.com/predict/registered/new/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-sep-2016/
Why this bet not resolved?
https://www.fairlay.com/predict/registered/new/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-sep-2016/
June 12, 2016, 12:13:05 PM
Yes, from time to time unless the "bug" is a feature. @justbc
June 10, 2016, 08:31:24 PM
Great. Are you still providing bug bounties / bonuses?
June 10, 2016, 06:23:37 PM
Thank you for your input. All issues you described should be fixed now @justbc.
June 10, 2016, 04:45:09 PM
Hey Fairlay Team,
Any comps available for the issues I encountered? Was my first time using the site and thought you would benefit from knowing the bugs / issues I reported. It would also go a long ways towards keeping me on the site.
Regards.
Any comps available for the issues I encountered? Was my first time using the site and thought you would benefit from knowing the bugs / issues I reported. It would also go a long ways towards keeping me on the site.
Regards.
Welcome to our site!
1. Can you give more details on the first issue. You made the AGAINST bid first and at this point no match was possible and then later the orderbook changed so that there should have been a match? Or you first offer should have found a direct match? In principal to our database it does not matter that you "select" a offer in the frontend. In our database only the odds and the amount will be stored and then the matching algorithm should do the rest.
2. That was really bad timing to join Fairlay- we indeed had trouble during this time. We hope that in the future you will experience our super fast cashouts as usual.
3. Good point - we will improve that!
About issue #1.
Yes exactly as you said "You made the AGAINST bid first and at this point no match was possible and then later the orderbook changed so that there should have been a match?"
Basically at the time I noticed it there were intersecting prices showing on the book. I should have taken a screenshot. But right after that I just manually matched the bet. If you look at the logs of my account you would see the last bet I cancelled right before accepting one.
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