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legendary
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October 25, 2021, 03:09:57 AM
I do not think that setting an age limit on the channel solves this problem because many children and teenagers watch YouTube without registration. They are gullible and very often try to get easy money. That's why I'm of the opinion that YouTube should tighten its policy for advertising fraud up to banning the channel without the possibility of restoring it. Only such measures will help clean up YouTube from promoting scams.
It is difficult that something like this will happen, YouTube needs viewers and they need content creators to use their platform for this, so it is likely they aware of the problem but they choose to ignore it as they are obtaining benefits out of this as well, so like always it is up to each person to learn how to protect themselves from advertisement like this which is incredibly deceiving, unfortunately a not small number of people are very naive and will believe something like this is possible and will gamble money they cannot afford to lose.
Afaik, Youtube has no interest to block gambling-related content and unlike Twitch they refuse to ban the accounts with referral codes. Naive gamblers will fall into this trap and they will continue to keep chasing losses until hitting decent since not all Youtube content creators upload the long loss sessions. Location-based restrictions are meaningless too, almost average Joe knows how to use VPN or proxy applications to avoid limitations. The best method is online casino managers should stop funding fake content and keep doing shady business with lucrative demo wins.

They as well as streamers earn money through such cooperation, so they are a stakeholder who is unlikely to refuse such activity. So as I have repeatedly said the only thing that can help is to reduce the number of streamers audience by refusing to watch their content.
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legendary
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October 24, 2021, 06:20:47 PM
The only not legit video is when or if a player operated the game with fake odds ongoing and they were given an advantage not available to all players.    Its not enough to call out just because yes the casino paid the streamer to play a game, demonstrating a product is normal in every industry I can think of.    Did he win and lose the game in a way available publicly to everyone, thats fine then.
  You can bet tiny amounts on most of these games, nobody is forcing people to use more money then they can afford to lose.  Dont borrow money to spend on anything, definitely dont do that in gambling as it is just a game activity.  I've seen no message to tell me I have to overspend, this is my own mistake to own I play small till Im very much more comfortable as thats best.
legendary
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October 24, 2021, 05:27:54 PM
It's funny to the point that the influencers who are promoting a gambling platform doesn't even know how to play it, they are just reading the scripts which was given to them.
It is not honestly funny but I am seeing the cruel nature of gambling houses in attempting to trap naive gamblers but what else you expect from a business which is exploiting all the human emotions for profit making. Basically all the infulencers are mere marketing agents and when you pay them then they will advertise whatever you ask for.

Actually, there's nothing wrong with that as long as gambling is legal and as a gambler, we are responsible enough to manage the risk.
This is the point which saves both infulencers and gambling houses from all legal actions. Even protecting ourselves is our own responsibility, I feel tempting us through fake things will lead to breach our own resolutions by forgetting responsibilities.

I could not agree more with you. With these sentiments, I hope that influencers will consider the implications of every advertising projects that they are offered to. Although they are making a living out of this, people can be put into a bad place by following them and believing their words. And while it is true that we hold the responsibility for our own welfare, being diligent in this digital world can be challenging because we are bombarded with so much information, where misleading info is rampant, that makes it difficult to determine which is which.


Most of the influencers that doing this kind of crap always put a disclaimer segment on there video. They are just simply advertising and that's there job, It's up to the people if they will believe it or not. Honestly, people that following and easily putting there trust on random guy on social media are worst and not worthy to be pity in case they suffer some loss. Let them learned from there mistake and move forward so that they can be better.
I agree with you but you shouldn't forget that most viewers of this kind of videos are very young and one part of them is not adult. Then  there is a need to find a way to prevent them from being abused by those scammy/fake demos.
hero member
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October 24, 2021, 05:25:27 PM
It will. The one that has paid them will really get more visits and sign ups due to their influence and attraction. But it will depend on how they will get to make their audiences and fans sign up into that casino.
Because if they are not convincing then they won't attract a lot but there's a reason why a casino has chosen them to advertise their website because there's a character that they've liked on that influencer which will help them.
If those influencers can show the video that almost looks real, the audience will follow them and sign up to that casino and spend some money because the audience will have a will to be like the influencers. It is about how they can convince the audience to follow them and they already did with the previous audience and sent them to the casino. Maybe the new people can easily visit the casino and see if they can have a chance to win as what the influencers got. But if they are only curious about what the influencers said and then did not have a big intention to continue playing, the audience will not stay for a long time.
Usually, many of their videos look legit and the way they convey messages to their fans, they look legitimate. And that's why the audiences have to look if the video is just made as sponsored because that's what has been happening.
Looking for the bets that they do, you don't have to wander about it because they've been sponsored and they are obviously fake and whatever amount they win, it's just part of the act.
hero member
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October 24, 2021, 04:49:21 PM
I do not think that setting an age limit on the channel solves this problem because many children and teenagers watch YouTube without registration. They are gullible and very often try to get easy money. That's why I'm of the opinion that YouTube should tighten its policy for advertising fraud up to banning the channel without the possibility of restoring it. Only such measures will help clean up YouTube from promoting scams.
It is difficult that something like this will happen, YouTube needs viewers and they need content creators to use their platform for this, so it is likely they aware of the problem but they choose to ignore it as they are obtaining benefits out of this as well, so like always it is up to each person to learn how to protect themselves from advertisement like this which is incredibly deceiving, unfortunately a not small number of people are very naive and will believe something like this is possible and will gamble money they cannot afford to lose.
hero member
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October 23, 2021, 11:48:54 PM
I have to admit that a pro influencer can tempt people to follow their suggestion because those influencers play with their word pretend that will happen to people if they use the advice from the influencer. But a wise gambler will not do that easily as they will have knowledge and skills to analyze what they need to do after watching the influencer video. They do not have just to follow but think more about the risk and other things.
They won't be called influencers if they can't change the mind of their followers. It's one thing for sure that influencers can be part of the decision-making of their followers and that's easy for them to do. That's why they're paid and hired by different companies in doing so to add the craze for the company that paid them to advertise. For the gamblers who have experience and been gambling for years, they can't easily be manipulated by these people.
No wonder if those influencers get paid with a lot of money because their followers can easily do what it suggests, which means the site will get more income from them. The bigger their follower, the bigger the chance that the influencers can get more income from the companies and they can make a deal with the other companies if their job is already finished so they can get more income. Yes, I agree that the influencer will not easily manipulate experienced gamblers because they will have another source that they can use to find more info about the truth.
It will. The one that has paid them will really get more visits and sign ups due to their influence and attraction. But it will depend on how they will get to make their audiences and fans sign up into that casino.
Because if they are not convincing then they won't attract a lot but there's a reason why a casino has chosen them to advertise their website because there's a character that they've liked on that influencer which will help them.
If those influencers can show the video that almost looks real, the audience will follow them and sign up to that casino and spend some money because the audience will have a will to be like the influencers. It is about how they can convince the audience to follow them and they already did with the previous audience and sent them to the casino. Maybe the new people can easily visit the casino and see if they can have a chance to win as what the influencers got. But if they are only curious about what the influencers said and then did not have a big intention to continue playing, the audience will not stay for a long time.
legendary
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October 23, 2021, 05:53:23 PM
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Marketing tricks like this have started to appear a lot, not only gambling sites but also binary platforms using these tricks.  surely some people have fallen into their trap, nowadays when we see an influencer playing on their account we have to be more observant to see which is just the marketing/advertising part to attract and which they are really playing.
And then the advertisers wonder why we go through the trouble of blocking anything that seems like an ad on our web browsers, if the marketing campaigns were honest about the products they were offering I would not have too much trouble watching through them. but when they lie about what they are offering and they know they are lying then that is the moment I skip or block all of those ads, and the same is true for those influencers that take the time to promote anything in such a way.
sr. member
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October 23, 2021, 04:41:38 PM
I have to admit that a pro influencer can tempt people to follow their suggestion because those influencers play with their word pretend that will happen to people if they use the advice from the influencer. But a wise gambler will not do that easily as they will have knowledge and skills to analyze what they need to do after watching the influencer video. They do not have just to follow but think more about the risk and other things.
They won't be called influencers if they can't change the mind of their followers. It's one thing for sure that influencers can be part of the decision-making of their followers and that's easy for them to do. That's why they're paid and hired by different companies in doing so to add the craze for the company that paid them to advertise. For the gamblers who have experience and been gambling for years, they can't easily be manipulated by these people.

Not all influencers are "influencers", if you know what I mean. Mostly, it is just all about money, they don't care about the latter effect of what they are doing as long as they have benefits on doing so, that's the sad truth about it. It's funny to the point that the influencers who are promoting a gambling platform doesn't even know how to play it, they are just reading the scripts which was given to them.

That's true, and actually, you can already tell that they are doing it for money as they become a youtube in order to earn money, I mean the main purpose is money so they'll bite that money given to them just to promote a gambling site. Actually, there's nothing wrong with that as long as gambling is legal and as a gambler, we are responsible enough to manage the risk. In the end, it's always important to tell people about the risk.
We as gambler are the last one to decide, streamers or influencers are doing their stuff to earn money, whatever works for them either site is paying them or they are just relying with views and referrals as long there are people who have an interest in watching them doing their stuff they don't care about it.

It is the viewers that should check the credibilities of the site and the person that they are watching or following.

If they believe that the site is good, using streamers referrals adds up and serve as token of appreciations for the streamers who
provides videos about how things work inside the casino.
That is the way we should have to do, these influencers had made their job to entice viewers and it was our own discretion to think if they are worthy or not. A lot of new gamblers become a victim to this and we have to be more vigilant than to regret later.
Credibilities and site feedback is a must to look at as that was the only way to prove how worthy they are as these advertisers and promotors don't matter of what they do.
hero member
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October 23, 2021, 01:33:45 PM
I have to admit that a pro influencer can tempt people to follow their suggestion because those influencers play with their word pretend that will happen to people if they use the advice from the influencer. But a wise gambler will not do that easily as they will have knowledge and skills to analyze what they need to do after watching the influencer video. They do not have just to follow but think more about the risk and other things.
They won't be called influencers if they can't change the mind of their followers. It's one thing for sure that influencers can be part of the decision-making of their followers and that's easy for them to do. That's why they're paid and hired by different companies in doing so to add the craze for the company that paid them to advertise. For the gamblers who have experience and been gambling for years, they can't easily be manipulated by these people.
No wonder if those influencers get paid with a lot of money because their followers can easily do what it suggests, which means the site will get more income from them. The bigger their follower, the bigger the chance that the influencers can get more income from the companies and they can make a deal with the other companies if their job is already finished so they can get more income. Yes, I agree that the influencer will not easily manipulate experienced gamblers because they will have another source that they can use to find more info about the truth.
It will. The one that has paid them will really get more visits and sign ups due to their influence and attraction. But it will depend on how they will get to make their audiences and fans sign up into that casino.
Because if they are not convincing then they won't attract a lot but there's a reason why a casino has chosen them to advertise their website because there's a character that they've liked on that influencer which will help them.
legendary
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October 23, 2021, 01:12:51 PM
I have to admit that a pro influencer can tempt people to follow their suggestion because those influencers play with their word pretend that will happen to people if they use the advice from the influencer. But a wise gambler will not do that easily as they will have knowledge and skills to analyze what they need to do after watching the influencer video. They do not have just to follow but think more about the risk and other things.
They won't be called influencers if they can't change the mind of their followers. It's one thing for sure that influencers can be part of the decision-making of their followers and that's easy for them to do. That's why they're paid and hired by different companies in doing so to add the craze for the company that paid them to advertise. For the gamblers who have experience and been gambling for years, they can't easily be manipulated by these people.

Not all influencers are "influencers", if you know what I mean. Mostly, it is just all about money, they don't care about the latter effect of what they are doing as long as they have benefits on doing so, that's the sad truth about it. It's funny to the point that the influencers who are promoting a gambling platform doesn't even know how to play it, they are just reading the scripts which was given to them.

That's true, and actually, you can already tell that they are doing it for money as they become a youtube in order to earn money, I mean the main purpose is money so they'll bite that money given to them just to promote a gambling site. Actually, there's nothing wrong with that as long as gambling is legal and as a gambler, we are responsible enough to manage the risk. In the end, it's always important to tell people about the risk.
We as gambler are the last one to decide, streamers or influencers are doing their stuff to earn money, whatever works for them either site is paying them or they are just relying with views and referrals as long there are people who have an interest in watching them doing their stuff they don't care about it.

It is the viewers that should check the credibilities of the site and the person that they are watching or following.

If they believe that the site is good, using streamers referrals adds up and serve as token of appreciations for the streamers who
provides videos about how things work inside the casino.
hero member
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October 23, 2021, 12:35:12 PM
It's funny to the point that the influencers who are promoting a gambling platform doesn't even know how to play it, they are just reading the scripts which was given to them.
It is not honestly funny but I am seeing the cruel nature of gambling houses in attempting to trap naive gamblers but what else you expect from a business which is exploiting all the human emotions for profit making. Basically all the infulencers are mere marketing agents and when you pay them then they will advertise whatever you ask for.

Actually, there's nothing wrong with that as long as gambling is legal and as a gambler, we are responsible enough to manage the risk.
This is the point which saves both infulencers and gambling houses from all legal actions. Even protecting ourselves is our own responsibility, I feel tempting us through fake things will lead to breach our own resolutions by forgetting responsibilities.

I could not agree more with you. With these sentiments, I hope that influencers will consider the implications of every advertising projects that they are offered to. Although they are making a living out of this, people can be put into a bad place by following them and believing their words. And while it is true that we hold the responsibility for our own welfare, being diligent in this digital world can be challenging because we are bombarded with so much information, where misleading info is rampant, that makes it difficult to determine which is which.


Most of the influencers that doing this kind of crap always put a disclaimer segment on there video. They are just simply advertising and that's there job, It's up to the people if they will believe it or not. Honestly, people that following and easily putting there trust on random guy on social media are worst and not worthy to be pity in case they suffer some loss. Let them learned from there mistake and move forward so that they can be better.
jr. member
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October 23, 2021, 12:21:55 PM
It's funny to the point that the influencers who are promoting a gambling platform doesn't even know how to play it, they are just reading the scripts which was given to them.
It is not honestly funny but I am seeing the cruel nature of gambling houses in attempting to trap naive gamblers but what else you expect from a business which is exploiting all the human emotions for profit making. Basically all the infulencers are mere marketing agents and when you pay them then they will advertise whatever you ask for.

Actually, there's nothing wrong with that as long as gambling is legal and as a gambler, we are responsible enough to manage the risk.
This is the point which saves both infulencers and gambling houses from all legal actions. Even protecting ourselves is our own responsibility, I feel tempting us through fake things will lead to breach our own resolutions by forgetting responsibilities.

I could not agree more with you. With these sentiments, I hope that influencers will consider the implications of every advertising projects that they are offered to. Although they are making a living out of this, people can be put into a bad place by following them and believing their words. And while it is true that we hold the responsibility for our own welfare, being diligent in this digital world can be challenging because we are bombarded with so much information, where misleading info is rampant, that makes it difficult to determine which is which.
legendary
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October 23, 2021, 08:39:45 AM
It's funny to the point that the influencers who are promoting a gambling platform doesn't even know how to play it, they are just reading the scripts which was given to them.
It is not honestly funny but I am seeing the cruel nature of gambling houses in attempting to trap naive gamblers but what else you expect from a business which is exploiting all the human emotions for profit making. Basically all the infulencers are mere marketing agents and when you pay them then they will advertise whatever you ask for.

Actually, there's nothing wrong with that as long as gambling is legal and as a gambler, we are responsible enough to manage the risk.
This is the point which saves both infulencers and gambling houses from all legal actions. Even protecting ourselves is our own responsibility, I feel tempting us through fake things will lead to breach our own resolutions by forgetting responsibilities.
legendary
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October 23, 2021, 08:35:05 AM
I have to admit that a pro influencer can tempt people to follow their suggestion because those influencers play with their word pretend that will happen to people if they use the advice from the influencer. But a wise gambler will not do that easily as they will have knowledge and skills to analyze what they need to do after watching the influencer video. They do not have just to follow but think more about the risk and other things.
They won't be called influencers if they can't change the mind of their followers. It's one thing for sure that influencers can be part of the decision-making of their followers and that's easy for them to do. That's why they're paid and hired by different companies in doing so to add the craze for the company that paid them to advertise. For the gamblers who have experience and been gambling for years, they can't easily be manipulated by these people.

Not all influencers are "influencers", if you know what I mean. Mostly, it is just all about money, they don't care about the latter effect of what they are doing as long as they have benefits on doing so, that's the sad truth about it. It's funny to the point that the influencers who are promoting a gambling platform doesn't even know how to play it, they are just reading the scripts which was given to them.

That's true, and actually, you can already tell that they are doing it for money as they become a youtube in order to earn money, I mean the main purpose is money so they'll bite that money given to them just to promote a gambling site. Actually, there's nothing wrong with that as long as gambling is legal and as a gambler, we are responsible enough to manage the risk. In the end, it's always important to tell people about the risk.
sr. member
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October 23, 2021, 07:59:14 AM
I have to admit that a pro influencer can tempt people to follow their suggestion because those influencers play with their word pretend that will happen to people if they use the advice from the influencer. But a wise gambler will not do that easily as they will have knowledge and skills to analyze what they need to do after watching the influencer video. They do not have just to follow but think more about the risk and other things.
They won't be called influencers if they can't change the mind of their followers. It's one thing for sure that influencers can be part of the decision-making of their followers and that's easy for them to do. That's why they're paid and hired by different companies in doing so to add the craze for the company that paid them to advertise. For the gamblers who have experience and been gambling for years, they can't easily be manipulated by these people.

Not all influencers are "influencers", if you know what I mean. Mostly, it is just all about money, they don't care about the latter effect of what they are doing as long as they have benefits on doing so, that's the sad truth about it. It's funny to the point that the influencers who are promoting a gambling platform doesn't even know how to play it, they are just reading the scripts which was given to them.
hero member
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October 23, 2021, 03:19:55 AM
Not only for kids, even adults are sometimes get enticed by the influencers, but this is the reality, it's the life of a gambler, you either follow, fade or make your own analysis.
Those adults are not aware of the reality that they're being shown with a marketing tactic by the influencers. Those influencers are good at enticing their audiences and that's why very effective to hire them still, it's you if you'll bite those marketing by them.
Some of the adults don't get too much aware of their losses as long as it gives them satisfaction and the urge to play. In some cases, once they won already into a gambling game they want to get more cause of too much greed on it. I guess kids do not have any kind of knowledge regarding online gambling because they think it's just a game but it's different if they know how to make a deposit with the use of the money of their parents this must needs consent and guidance.
You bet with kids today and they're more knowledgeable than those adults that don't really gambler. There are kids today that know how to gamble, it might not be in any online platform but they know how to bet with someone manually. And when they see some ads coming from influencers and they're attracted to it, there's a likely that they will try to bet from that casino that has been advertised to them. It's such an advanced thing today because you'll just be surprised that these kids know how to bet already.
legendary
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October 22, 2021, 09:55:23 PM
Not only for kids, even adults are sometimes get enticed by the influencers, but this is the reality, it's the life of a gambler, you either follow, fade or make your own analysis.
Those adults are not aware of the reality that they're being shown with a marketing tactic by the influencers. Those influencers are good at enticing their audiences and that's why very effective to hire them still, it's you if you'll bite those marketing by them.

There's a risk but if you keep making mistakes and you did not adjust, that means you should not gamble as it's not for you.
In gambling, the risk is always there and it won't be gone for sure. So if you make a mistake repeatedly and it's not healthy to you anymore, it's best to quit.

Some of the adults don't get too much aware of their losses as long as it gives them satisfaction and the urge to play. In some cases, once they won already into a gambling game they want to get more cause of too much greed on it. I guess kids do not have any kind of knowledge regarding online gambling because they think it's just a game but it's different if they know how to make a deposit with the use of the money of their parents this must needs consent and guidance.
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October 22, 2021, 07:18:14 PM
I have to admit that a pro influencer can tempt people to follow their suggestion because those influencers play with their word pretend that will happen to people if they use the advice from the influencer. But a wise gambler will not do that easily as they will have knowledge and skills to analyze what they need to do after watching the influencer video. They do not have just to follow but think more about the risk and other things.
They won't be called influencers if they can't change the mind of their followers. It's one thing for sure that influencers can be part of the decision-making of their followers and that's easy for them to do. That's why they're paid and hired by different companies in doing so to add the craze for the company that paid them to advertise. For the gamblers who have experience and been gambling for years, they can't easily be manipulated by these people.
No wonder if those influencers get paid with a lot of money because their followers can easily do what it suggests, which means the site will get more income from them. The bigger their follower, the bigger the chance that the influencers can get more income from the companies and they can make a deal with the other companies if their job is already finished so they can get more income. Yes, I agree that the influencer will not easily manipulate experienced gamblers because they will have another source that they can use to find more info about the truth.
hero member
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October 22, 2021, 06:23:26 PM
Not only for kids, even adults are sometimes get enticed by the influencers, but this is the reality, it's the life of a gambler, you either follow, fade or make your own analysis.
Those adults are not aware of the reality that they're being shown with a marketing tactic by the influencers. Those influencers are good at enticing their audiences and that's why very effective to hire them still, it's you if you'll bite those marketing by them.

There's a risk but if you keep making mistakes and you did not adjust, that means you should not gamble as it's not for you.
In gambling, the risk is always there and it won't be gone for sure. So if you make a mistake repeatedly and it's not healthy to you anymore, it's best to quit.
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October 22, 2021, 05:20:08 PM
That's the purpose of advertising, to tell white lies about it so people would use it (either a product or a service) by paying influencers to promote it even though the influencers doesn't even really use their products. They only do such marketing because in that way, they could easily persuade people to appreciate their products and make a huge sale.

In YouTube, there's a notification or warning if a video is not suitable for young people like below the legal age. I think it's the parent's responsibility to always watch their children's activities online.

I also do remember LL Stylish promoting Stake on his twitch while playing league of legends. I'm not against it but he should've considered his audience which is under 18 mostly and he had over 10,000 Viewers at the moment that advert went online, Not counting his Youtube video containing the same Ad had over 200,000 Views, Casinos can't be blamed for it if the will power of people running streams isn't strong and they're easy to give in to these temptations.
That video should be restricted to user below 18 years old and there's a feature of this in Youtube so for sure no minors watching that advertisement. Fake bets are real, many are into this just to attract gamblers so its quiet risky if you get into that site because of that fake bets. Also, if those youtuber feature their earnings you'd better to think again because they might be part of the advertising team, so technically he's playing the money of casino.
Actually there is a check box will be there when every video is uploaded on the YouTube which is the videos are made for kids but 99% of them skip this still its on the recommendation of kids feeds jist because the kids are actually using a Google account with fake birthday details so they are the violators.
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