Topic: Fake bets - page 8. (Read 2749 times)

It was just a matter of time.

regardless of whether this action is called cheating or not, I think this goes back to an individual perspective because here especially in this case there are no written rules about something.
and when you look at it from one side to the other this is a strategy they use to attract fans, regardless of whether it's dirty or not, they are sure to succeed.
and here we can't blame the people who work with the casino because they are just workers. what needs to be emphasized is why you are interested because it is clear that such a thing must have been arranged.

I really hate Lying site because this comes to fooling people/gamblers  if a company really paying for this fake bets streaming then i think there is something to explain for.
though almost every casino has their own strategy and i also believe that many of them are doing the same faking of bets.

Edit:
This seems to be a pretty controversial subject, so I decided to write this blog post to expand on my thoughts on this:
https://twitter.com/CSGOEmpireV2/status/1375068884584267778

I'm curious to hear what the Bitcointalk community thinks about this topic;

Casinos using fake bets to attract new players.

I was surprised to learn that the vast majority of videos and streams on Roobet.com are actually fake.
Here are a couple of examples of different deal formats that casinos are making with the influencers:

A) Bet amount inflation; The streamer only wants to gamble with $100. The site gives them "$10000" in funds, but only 1% of this is withdrawable. The viewers will think that the streamer is gambling with $10000, while in reality, they're only risking $100.

B) Infinite refills; The casino makes an agreement with the streamer. Let's say they want to pay the streamer $50,000 for a sponsorship contract. They start giving the streamer endless $1000 refills, which the streamer is supposed to gamble with. They will repeat this process until they "win" $50,000. The streamer will pretend to be shocked and highlight this big win in all of their social media channels. However, the truth is that there were zero risks involved for the streamer, and the final outcome was already known -- It was just a matter of time.

I brought this topic up in Roobet's Bitcointalk thread, and I was quite surprised to see a lot of people defending them, saying that this is totally justified. They mentioned points such as:
- "This has been going on for years. It's normal in the casino community."
- "The streamers are honest about it. They have a disclaimer somewhere stating that it's fake." (Their explanations usually are very indirect and abstract.)

In my personal opinion, this sort of marketing is highly deceiving and dishonest. Roobet (and other casinos) are inflating their systems with fake bets, pretending to be more popular than they really are. This is a loss for both, legit sites that don't want to inflate their numbers, and legit streamers who don't want to participate in the circus of fake bets and fake reactions.

What do you think?

Have you guys heard about the Twitch leak?

Monthly payments to top streamers from Twitch:

Gross payments from August 2019 to September 2021:

These are only direct payments from Twitch! It does not include advertising revenues, merchandise sales donations, etc.
I think that scammers simply don’t have enough money to order advertising from such guys, and streamers will never risk their huge income for one-time earnings.

As long as you don't have tangible proves to support the claims you may not attract a good audience to this issue, most shady gambling sites are involved in so many illegal activities and promotions that are not real.

But I think any gambling site that will like to last long in the business will try as much as possible to attract real players.

Edit:
This seems to be a pretty controversial subject, so I decided to write this blog post to expand on my thoughts on this:
https://twitter.com/CSGOEmpireV2/status/1375068884584267778

I'm curious to hear what the Bitcointalk community thinks about this topic;

Casinos using fake bets to attract new players.

I was surprised to learn that the vast majority of videos and streams on Roobet.com are actually fake.
Here are a couple of examples of different deal formats that casinos are making with the influencers:

A) Bet amount inflation; The streamer only wants to gamble with $100. The site gives them "$10000" in funds, but only 1% of this is withdrawable. The viewers will think that the streamer is gambling with $10000, while in reality, they're only risking $100.

B) Infinite refills; The casino makes an agreement with the streamer. Let's say they want to pay the streamer $50,000 for a sponsorship contract. They start giving the streamer endless $1000 refills, which the streamer is supposed to gamble with. They will repeat this process until they "win" $50,000. The streamer will pretend to be shocked and highlight this big win in all of their social media channels. However, the truth is that there were zero risks involved for the streamer, and the final outcome was already known -- It was just a matter of time.

I brought this topic up in Roobet's Bitcointalk thread, and I was quite surprised to see a lot of people defending them, saying that this is totally justified. They mentioned points such as:
- "This has been going on for years. It's normal in the casino community."
- "The streamers are honest about it. They have a disclaimer somewhere stating that it's fake." (Their explanations usually are very indirect and abstract.)

In my personal opinion, this sort of marketing is highly deceiving and dishonest. Roobet (and other casinos) are inflating their systems with fake bets, pretending to be more popular than they really are. This is a loss for both, legit sites that don't want to inflate their numbers, and legit streamers who don't want to participate in the circus of fake bets and fake reactions.

What do you think?

I'll take the case of 1XBIT, if these gamblers who've been scammed already know the existence of Bitcointalk and how active the forum is when it comes to gambling discussion they would have joined casinos with a good reputation, many new gamblers are recruited on the ads and social media ads, this is why many scam casinos pour a lot of money on social media and buying ads space on popular platform

There are almost hidden disclaimers on what I perceive as paid advertisements which of course is common in the advertising industry. Not all streamers doing these kinds of reviews might put all of the factual information and instead will leave you wanting for more information. Internet personalities are not all nice guys in my opinion. Some have agendas of their own and they make sure that they hide any sense of falsehoods under their skills in acting.

I suggest not putting or leaving many in casino if no plans in playing within that day or week. We never what may happen within that time as the crypto market is volatile as well we can’t guarantee the casino capability it’s better to withdraw if done playing or no plans in playing again in short period of time. It’s like in trading we never know if the market will drop and we don’t want to invest in that coins for long term then better shift it to much stable currency or safety. It’s our chance to keep our self away from the burden of hack or system interruptions that may happen while were not online or not gambling.

There are many such fraudulent bets for playing online casino scams even if the various platforms show legitimacy. That's why you need to know the marketing strategies before playing casino these will protect gamblers from fraud if the luck is good it is possible to win gambling sites need to be considered carefully and verified to be valid. Although many casino sites are added after greed they may not last very long you need to know the strategies before investing capital.

If it's on a reputable casino, it's unlikely that they'll do that even in marketing. Most of those casinos that are likely engaged with this marketing and strategy are the newer ones.
They're building their reputation and having those fake bets that seems to be high is part of the attraction to make it look that they've been used by a whale gambler.

This mostly happens when the goal of creating new contents is to make money not looking at the later effect that might be a later to new gamblers that are betting in the platforms they advise there followers to bet on claiming they had already tested they platform to be a good one just to make extra penny. This is why we should not be moved by what we see on social media

streamers nowadays only plays good  in the beginning to lure more and more followers/viewers .

but in the long run when they already had the enough followers? then they will do anything they want in the name of money and in this area they will promote everything caring nothing if their reputation will explode.

that is what people do for the sake of money.

If it's on a reputable casino, it's unlikely that they'll do that even in marketing. Most of those casinos that are likely engaged with this marketing and strategy are the newer ones.
They're building their reputation and having those fake bets that seems to be high is part of the attraction to make it look that they've been used by a whale gambler.

I really hate Lying site because this comes to fooling people/gamblers  if a company really paying for this fake bets streaming then i think there is something to explain for.
though almost every casino has their own strategy and i also believe that many of them are doing the same faking of bets.

There are many such fraudulent bets for playing online casino scams even if the various platforms show legitimacy. That's why you need to know the marketing strategies before playing casino these will protect gamblers from fraud if the luck is good it is possible to win gambling sites need to be considered carefully and verified to be valid. Although many casino sites are added after greed they may not last very long you need to know the strategies before investing capital.

I really hate Lying site because this comes to fooling people/gamblers  if a company really paying for this fake bets streaming then i think there is something to explain for.
though almost every casino has their strategy and I also believe that many of them are doing the same faking of bets.

Nothing is wrong with that as long as the online casino is a legitimate provably fair casino. And yes that's part of the marketing strategy to show the public how fair the online casino is upon playing several of the games offered by the online casino.
But the problem is, most of the streamers are deceiving the viewers as If they're playing with their own money.