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legendary
Activity: 1904
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What's funny is that nowhere in your long-winded, insult-ridden response did you demonstrate how my timeline was incorrect.

Here's the order of events you presented:

1.
I mediated a dispute between Timelord and some members of the Turkish community

2.
they added me

3.
as a result I ended up back on the default trust list.

Here's what actually happened:

1. You added Turkish members to your trust list and they reciprocated (with the exception of Blacknavy who added you first).

2. You ended up back on DT1.

3. You mediated the dispute between Timelord and some members of the Turkish community.

So, you lied. Stop lying and I'll stop correcting you.

Those who question TECSHARE should know that he will try to sound like he is some "independent authority with the ability to think for himself". Fuck off you box peddling, penny snatcher. Stop this pretense of authority and "independent thinking", when in reality, you keep lying about your intentions as well as how things happened. Dishonest "businessmen" like you often resort to personal attacks. Not having the truth behind you ensures that you have to keep changing track like you are doing about your claims of having been added AFTER mediating.

I said I don't care about your issue with nutildah because I was only talking about your self-confessed intentions to bring diversity to DT-1, which isn't a bad thing by itself. The manner in which you are doing is what i disagreed with. You are not important, the forum and Bitcoin is. I just pointed out that as DT-1, you should exercise better judgement. Now it is evident to me that deep inside, you are a non-ethical penny-peddler who hides behind the facade of "practicality" and "business sense". In order to keep your house of cards intact, you invent lie after lie and change your story. Like you did with "I added those users because i want more diversity". When it gets too much, you take on the airs of "independent judgement".

The most likely conclusion is that you are a dishonest scumbag who adds people for reciprocal inclusions. I tried appealing to your better senses, only in regards to those people who say dishonest stuff like "Blockstream is controlling Bitcointalk through DT-1 to keep a hold on Bitcoin against the likes of BSV and BCH". Instead of commenting on that, you trade insults because that is the only thing a lying weasel like you can do, knowing fully well that you were dishonest to begin with.

I guess a lot of people who have tagged you actually are right about you. You label people who ask you to reconsider your judgement as "Dishonest third parties". The reason being that lying scumbags like you cannot have people asking questions. For people like you. the ends justify the means. "Ohh Look, I maybe trying to influence DT by exchanging inclusions with as many greedy fucktwats as i can, but its my choice, I am an independent party". You are unable to take any ethical stand because that does not suit your interests. When you lie, its natural that you cannot keep your story straight. So go on and continue with your trading. Just stop pretending about being honest or having independent judgement. People like you should really not be in Default Trust.
legendary
Activity: 3010
Merit: 8114
You completely sidestepped addressing Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster. Never mind that these things have nothing to do with the facts of the matter, what is important is that I demand you address them as if they are real! If you don't address them as facts then you are just side stepping them!

You again completely ignored my post where I pointed out exactly how you were lying while using verifiable evidence to do so.

I mediated a dispute between Timelord and some members of the Turkish community, they added me, as a result I ended up back on the default trust list.

This is not what happened. With the exception of 1 member, (Blacknavy), he added all of them first, before he knew how they would respond to his "mediation" (or well before the entire thing took place). The real order of events is this:

- TS gets included by Turkish members and ends up back on DT1 (with a positive score)
- TS "mediates" dispute between Timelord on Turkish community
- TS's reciprocal trust inclusion history is exposed
- TS falls back off DT1 (with negative net inclusions)
...7 months later...
- TS ends up "back on" the default trust list with +2 inclusions

You were back on DT1 before the dispute with Timelord.


Just because my reply is not consistent with your delusions doesn't make me a liar. It just means your assumptions about my intent are not only meaningless but incorrect. I responded to your accusation more times than I can count now, but some how you expect me to be able to prove my intent, but since I can't I am a liar according to you. You have ZERO evidence of anything except your determination to craft these series of events into some kind of malfeasance to serve your own personal petty vendetta.

In order to "manufacture timelines", one has to first operate on the assumption that your timeline means anything other than more assumptions on your part. You feel you have some kind of right to not only demand I explain why I included these people, but that it must be done in such a manner commensurate with your demands, or else I am "manufacturing timelines". It is not that you are making baseless assumptions, no, not at all, it is because I am "manufacturing timelines" that my replies don't meet the standards of your demands.

Not only that there were private communications as well, there is also the fact that I thought their trust lists were also positive additions.

Some of the users I added for the simple reason that I agreed with their trust list. Is this where you tell me again what is a valid reason for me deciding who I do or don't include based on your own personal preferences? Nothing you are accusing me of is anything that couldn't literally be applied to any other member actively using custom trust lists. Much like a fed uses process crimes to charge people with crimes when they have no evidence, you are using the idea that I don't meet your arbitrary standards in your interrogation as "proof" of my guilt. This is all just a game you are playing to pursue your own vendetta.


But since I admittedly can't prove that I know what you were actually thinking or what your actual motivations were, I ask that people look at the body of evidence presented and come to their own conclusions.


There is no "body of evidence". There are a string of assumptions, with accusations stacked on top of them upon which even more assumptions were based. That is not evidence, that is at best theorizing and nothing a trust rating should be based on. Once again, I manufactured nothing. You seem intent on this being some kind of deception, just like all your other assumptions here.

Some of the users I included because I thought their trust lists were beneficial, some of them I included because of their response to the advice concerning the removal of support from a frivolous flag. It is as simple as that, no "manufacturing of timelines" needed. This is purely a projection on your part designed to impugn my character to serve your own personal vendettas, and the vendettas of people like Vod.

Vultures like you saw I was achieving something positive and did a deep dive into my toilet bowl looking for any peanut fragments you could find in order to tarnish this effort that yielded positive results, because if I have a say in the default trust, I will erode the unilateral control and protection from being penalized for your own abuses that you and your friends currently enjoy. All the same people abusing negative ratings against me are all the same peanut hunters that are the most vocal in opposition to my calls for an objective standard of evidence before leaving negative ratings. This is about serving yourself, not about protecting the forum from me.



Good thing I have you here to tell me what I am saying, I certainly couldn't do that without you selectively interpreting my words into what you wish them to be. I explained myself several times, Nutilduhh is intent on pretending that they caught me in some kind of ulterior motives when it is based on absolutely nothing but their own assumptions and bias against me. I don't need to explain myself because I have done it 100 times already and Nutilduhh doesn't want to hear anything except the narrative that serves their personal vendetta.
I don't care what you guys have against each other. I just looked at this and just respectfully trying to understand your viewpoint. You call it "selective interpretation" because maybe you don't agree with it. Which part? I have only asked you to reconsider adding people for the sake of bringing balance or diversity. You keep saying that the "Clown Car" is opposing you because they don't want you on DT-1. Maybe, just maybe, that is because people expect more frugal judgement from someone on DT-1. I have just presented my opinion on it above. In the same vein, I only asked you that you should reconsider whom you empower. Gave you examples above too.

You have said earlier: (emphasis mine)
You want to REALLY know why I added those Turkish users? Because they were just barely off the DT and I wanted to see it more diverse. Additionally because anyone the resident clowns exclude I immediately find interest in. The Turkish community was obviously being targeted. I don't believe it was for racist reasons though, I just think the clowns feel like they can't keep their iron grip of nepotism if more groups are included. All this circus is, is punishment for working to bust up their little clown cartel, and it is painfully transparent.

That is why i said:
If we only talk about the trust with the Turkish users, he says that he may have added them for his own reasons. At one point, i think he has said that he wants the forum to have more diversity in DT1. That diversity also seems to be primarily targeted on having sufficient opposition to the "clown car" or whatever. LOL.
I just wanted to present a case before you (thinking you are an old, influential member). In any case, its your own judgement. You don't have to be rude. You don't know me enough. Our only previous interaction has been business that didn't go through. I hope to buy a mystery box someday as they have rave reviews generally.

PS: Calling someone with an Amish" in name, a rube. That is rude even by DT standards, LOL..

The fact that you don't care that nutilduuh is pushing a personal vendetta here is relevant regardless of you caring about it or not. Disinterested third parties love making lazy casual observations not knowing the entirety of the story, but feeling perfectly confident giving their opinions about the situation anyway. The selective interpretation is where you tell me what I meant and cherry picking my replies to fit in with your half assed assessment. I don't know you and I don't care to. You are a muppet that just repeats what you see people like nutilduuuh say and treat it as fact. I have no interest in knowing people that don't have any ability for independent thought and pretend to know things when they are just casual 3rd party observers skimming the surface as lazily as possible. Maybe, just maybe you don't have any fucking clue what you are talking about and should keep your opinions to yourself.

What's funny is that nowhere in your long-winded, insult-ridden response did you demonstrate how my timeline was incorrect.

Here's the order of events you presented:

1.
I mediated a dispute between Timelord and some members of the Turkish community

2.
they added me

3.
as a result I ended up back on the default trust list.

Here's what actually happened:

1. You added Turkish members to your trust list and they reciprocated (with the exception of Blacknavy who added you first).

2. You ended up back on DT1.

3. You mediated the dispute between Timelord and some members of the Turkish community.

So, you lied. Stop lying and I'll stop correcting you.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
You completely sidestepped addressing Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster. Never mind that these things have nothing to do with the facts of the matter, what is important is that I demand you address them as if they are real! If you don't address them as facts then you are just side stepping them!

You again completely ignored my post where I pointed out exactly how you were lying while using verifiable evidence to do so.

I mediated a dispute between Timelord and some members of the Turkish community, they added me, as a result I ended up back on the default trust list.

This is not what happened. With the exception of 1 member, (Blacknavy), he added all of them first, before he knew how they would respond to his "mediation" (or well before the entire thing took place). The real order of events is this:

- TS gets included by Turkish members and ends up back on DT1 (with a positive score)
- TS "mediates" dispute between Timelord on Turkish community
- TS's reciprocal trust inclusion history is exposed
- TS falls back off DT1 (with negative net inclusions)
...7 months later...
- TS ends up "back on" the default trust list with +2 inclusions

You were back on DT1 before the dispute with Timelord.


Just because my reply is not consistent with your delusions doesn't make me a liar. It just means your assumptions about my intent are not only meaningless but incorrect. I responded to your accusation more times than I can count now, but some how you expect me to be able to prove my intent, but since I can't I am a liar according to you. You have ZERO evidence of anything except your determination to craft these series of events into some kind of malfeasance to serve your own personal petty vendetta.

In order to "manufacture timelines", one has to first operate on the assumption that your timeline means anything other than more assumptions on your part. You feel you have some kind of right to not only demand I explain why I included these people, but that it must be done in such a manner commensurate with your demands, or else I am "manufacturing timelines". It is not that you are making baseless assumptions, no, not at all, it is because I am "manufacturing timelines" that my replies don't meet the standards of your demands.

Not only that there were private communications as well, there is also the fact that I thought their trust lists were also positive additions.

Some of the users I added for the simple reason that I agreed with their trust list. Is this where you tell me again what is a valid reason for me deciding who I do or don't include based on your own personal preferences? Nothing you are accusing me of is anything that couldn't literally be applied to any other member actively using custom trust lists. Much like a fed uses process crimes to charge people with crimes when they have no evidence, you are using the idea that I don't meet your arbitrary standards in your interrogation as "proof" of my guilt. This is all just a game you are playing to pursue your own vendetta.


But since I admittedly can't prove that I know what you were actually thinking or what your actual motivations were, I ask that people look at the body of evidence presented and come to their own conclusions.


There is no "body of evidence". There are a string of assumptions, with accusations stacked on top of them upon which even more assumptions were based. That is not evidence, that is at best theorizing and nothing a trust rating should be based on. Once again, I manufactured nothing. You seem intent on this being some kind of deception, just like all your other assumptions here.

Some of the users I included because I thought their trust lists were beneficial, some of them I included because of their response to the advice concerning the removal of support from a frivolous flag. It is as simple as that, no "manufacturing of timelines" needed. This is purely a projection on your part designed to impugn my character to serve your own personal vendettas, and the vendettas of people like Vod.

Vultures like you saw I was achieving something positive and did a deep dive into my toilet bowl looking for any peanut fragments you could find in order to tarnish this effort that yielded positive results, because if I have a say in the default trust, I will erode the unilateral control and protection from being penalized for your own abuses that you and your friends currently enjoy. All the same people abusing negative ratings against me are all the same peanut hunters that are the most vocal in opposition to my calls for an objective standard of evidence before leaving negative ratings. This is about serving yourself, not about protecting the forum from me.



Good thing I have you here to tell me what I am saying, I certainly couldn't do that without you selectively interpreting my words into what you wish them to be. I explained myself several times, Nutilduhh is intent on pretending that they caught me in some kind of ulterior motives when it is based on absolutely nothing but their own assumptions and bias against me. I don't need to explain myself because I have done it 100 times already and Nutilduhh doesn't want to hear anything except the narrative that serves their personal vendetta.
I don't care what you guys have against each other. I just looked at this and just respectfully trying to understand your viewpoint. You call it "selective interpretation" because maybe you don't agree with it. Which part? I have only asked you to reconsider adding people for the sake of bringing balance or diversity. You keep saying that the "Clown Car" is opposing you because they don't want you on DT-1. Maybe, just maybe, that is because people expect more frugal judgement from someone on DT-1. I have just presented my opinion on it above. In the same vein, I only asked you that you should reconsider whom you empower. Gave you examples above too.

You have said earlier: (emphasis mine)
You want to REALLY know why I added those Turkish users? Because they were just barely off the DT and I wanted to see it more diverse. Additionally because anyone the resident clowns exclude I immediately find interest in. The Turkish community was obviously being targeted. I don't believe it was for racist reasons though, I just think the clowns feel like they can't keep their iron grip of nepotism if more groups are included. All this circus is, is punishment for working to bust up their little clown cartel, and it is painfully transparent.

That is why i said:
If we only talk about the trust with the Turkish users, he says that he may have added them for his own reasons. At one point, i think he has said that he wants the forum to have more diversity in DT1. That diversity also seems to be primarily targeted on having sufficient opposition to the "clown car" or whatever. LOL.
I just wanted to present a case before you (thinking you are an old, influential member). In any case, its your own judgement. You don't have to be rude. You don't know me enough. Our only previous interaction has been business that didn't go through. I hope to buy a mystery box someday as they have rave reviews generally.

PS: Calling someone with an Amish" in name, a rube. That is rude even by DT standards, LOL..

The fact that you don't care that nutilduuh is pushing a personal vendetta here is relevant regardless of you caring about it or not. Disinterested third parties love making lazy casual observations not knowing the entirety of the story, but feeling perfectly confident giving their opinions about the situation anyway. The selective interpretation is where you tell me what I meant and cherry picking my replies to fit in with your half assed assessment. I don't know you and I don't care to. You are a muppet that just repeats what you see people like nutilduuuh say and treat it as fact. I have no interest in knowing people that don't have any ability for independent thought and pretend to know things when they are just casual 3rd party observers skimming the surface as lazily as possible. Maybe, just maybe you don't have any fucking clue what you are talking about and should keep your opinions to yourself.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1159
Good thing I have you here to tell me what I am saying, I certainly couldn't do that without you selectively interpreting my words into what you wish them to be. I explained myself several times, Nutilduhh is intent on pretending that they caught me in some kind of ulterior motives when it is based on absolutely nothing but their own assumptions and bias against me. I don't need to explain myself because I have done it 100 times already and Nutilduhh doesn't want to hear anything except the narrative that serves their personal vendetta.
I don't care what you guys have against each other. I just looked at this and just respectfully trying to understand your viewpoint. You call it "selective interpretation" because maybe you don't agree with it. Which part? I have only asked you to reconsider adding people for the sake of bringing balance or diversity. You keep saying that the "Clown Car" is opposing you because they don't want you on DT-1. Maybe, just maybe, that is because people expect more frugal judgement from someone on DT-1. I have just presented my opinion on it above. In the same vein, I only asked you that you should reconsider whom you empower. Gave you examples above too.

You have said earlier: (emphasis mine)
You want to REALLY know why I added those Turkish users? Because they were just barely off the DT and I wanted to see it more diverse. Additionally because anyone the resident clowns exclude I immediately find interest in. The Turkish community was obviously being targeted. I don't believe it was for racist reasons though, I just think the clowns feel like they can't keep their iron grip of nepotism if more groups are included. All this circus is, is punishment for working to bust up their little clown cartel, and it is painfully transparent.

That is why i said:
If we only talk about the trust with the Turkish users, he says that he may have added them for his own reasons. At one point, i think he has said that he wants the forum to have more diversity in DT1. That diversity also seems to be primarily targeted on having sufficient opposition to the "clown car" or whatever. LOL.
I just wanted to present a case before you (thinking you are an old, influential member). In any case, its your own judgement. You don't have to be rude. You don't know me enough. Our only previous interaction has been business that didn't go through. I hope to buy a mystery box someday as they have rave reviews generally.

PS: Calling someone with an Amish" in name, a rube. That is rude even by DT standards, LOL..
legendary
Activity: 3010
Merit: 8114
You completely sidestepped addressing Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster. Never mind that these things have nothing to do with the facts of the matter, what is important is that I demand you address them as if they are real! If you don't address them as facts then you are just side stepping them!

You again completely ignored my post where I pointed out exactly how you were lying while using verifiable evidence to do so.

I mediated a dispute between Timelord and some members of the Turkish community, they added me, as a result I ended up back on the default trust list.

This is not what happened. With the exception of 1 member, (Blacknavy), he added all of them first, before he knew how they would respond to his "mediation" (or well before the entire thing took place). The real order of events is this:

- TS gets included by Turkish members and ends up back on DT1 (with a positive score)
- TS "mediates" dispute between Timelord on Turkish community
- TS's reciprocal trust inclusion history is exposed
- TS falls back off DT1 (with negative net inclusions)
...7 months later...
- TS ends up "back on" the default trust list with +2 inclusions

You were back on DT1 before the dispute with Timelord.
legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 1047
You speak but you are the one part of the  DT gang, you guys really pukable , just saying.

I'll just get making shitty scams so i can help people avoid them brb, oh well jolly i won't make any competence for you.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1159
--snip--
Same old repetitive gibberish filled with your delusional, opinionated, one-sided conclusions. Ohh and LOL @ your threats about branding people scammers because they don't agree with your nonsense. You are sick and deserve to be ignored. Goodbye!!
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 44
1. I just provided evidence NOBODY EXCEPT THE DEVS COULD MINE AT LAUNCH
Have another read. This was confirmed by the devs who offered a 2 000 000 000 usd equivalent compensation offer
LOL..You provided no EVIDENCE you asinine, retard. you provided a post from a newbie account that somehow concluded that all 100 of those AWS instances and nodes were being run by the founder dev and his "TEAM". That is conjecture and not evidence. In the initial 4 hours, when the dev posted about a bug in code, the people who responded were also being updated and later said that they were later able to mine. This DRK coin later turned into DASH which people bought at cheap prices and it was filled with people from both sides. Those who benefited and those who lost. The ROI on CMC is >9000%. There were a lot of winners and a whole bunch of losers. The dev Evan had a lot of leverage due to the novel source code. No doubt, he is the one who benefited out of it most. Including a lot of people who got on the train early. In that, this is no different than ETH where the inital holders benefited immensely. Even BTC founder has a stash of a million BTC. That doesn't make it a instamine. Though of course, the brilliance of Satoshi meant that he walked away from that stash as well as from taking ownership of the community unlike the scammers who later peddled these Alts and made themselves billionaries. Everyone wishes that these distributions were more ethical but it just became the norm back then. There are a lot of people arguing about this on that thread.

Hence, you have debunked nothing. Every person on this forum with even a remote capability of analysis can see that you are a joke. You have had alts after alts peddling the same theories throughout your posting history. I am no super keen Lauda fan. I am only looking at your crap posts that you have littered the forum with. Lauda will get what they have earned. They have done a lot of stuff but most non-retarded people on the forum don't buy your shit about all the people who are trying to prevent scammers here. You seem to be the master troll whose ultimate aim is to distract everybody who is actively engaged in finding scammers or providing analysis that nails spammer. This includies nutildah, marlborozo, Lauda, The Pharmacist, LoyceV etc. All these are people who at some point have wielded sufficient power against alt-account spammers. You on the other hand are interested in defending the nouveau scammers on the forum.

LMAO..Where am i defending Lauda in the argument you freak?? I have only read the links you keep posting and people downthread itself don't completely agree with these "evidences". You spread lies, misinformation and hatred and give it the name of defending truth, you insidious bastard. Who gives you the authority to talk like you are some judge of people's intentions here? I have seen this pattern of pointing out signature campaigns and giving your stupid judgements. Fuck off you moron. I engage respectfully in this forum so don't you dare point fingers at me that I am part of some Alt-gang or defending any scammer.

YOU KEEP REPEATING THOSE PHRASES: "INCONTROVERTIBLE PROOF, UNDENIABLE SCAMMER,".OLD BROKEN RECORD.

You have no authority here man. Your post history is proof that you have accomplished nothing on this forum and have no positive contribution. Envious people like you never do anything in life. You can continue with your jealous crusade. I would be happy to put you on ignore but I don't like doing such things as everybody has a right to their opinion.

 

Shut up you liar. I have just about had enough out of your scammer supporting gob.

It was instamined end of story.

Lauda said he was on the launch and could confirm there was no instamine. He was repeating this for months even after all of the dark coin scam threads and even Evan capitulated and offered the 2 000 000 000 usd compensation airdrop.,  the 60 % in a day price collapse , the entire dark community spamming hate down on CH and those bringing the truth to people that it was an instamined scam. Even after all of that he was saying only butthurt people were claiming there was an instamine.

Various top tier devs have confirmed it was an instamine. GM says it was a scam.

500k coins mined in 1st hour from a total minting of 22m
Nearly 2m coins in one day? Lol

Not instamined you say ?

Just one of the other dash devs admitted he got way over 120k first day and had 100AWS instances on it
That was not evan Evan that was just one member of the dev team.

So you say it's all nonsense no instamine ?
The dev team instamined it to shit simple as that .

What ? you think cryptohunter just bullied the entire darkcoin dev team to offer a 20M or 2 000 000 000 usd compensation offer to the forum because he just assumed there was an instamine?

This was launched when most pow projects were abiding by a fair launch protocol to prevent premines and instamines. Hence why xcoin/dash said fair launch no premine.  Then they admitted a huge problem onlyt after ch kicked up a huge stink about it.

You cant say well it wasn't instamined because some other pow coins may have in your opinion instamined
The comparison to bitcoin is absurd anyway.

You cant say a coin wasn't instamined because people made money out of it.

You are a scammer supporting ass licker and Roobet must be made well aware.

Preventing valuable warnings being placed on scum like lauda lying he was on the launch and could confirm no instamine took place just cos he held bags of it is scammer supporting 101

Now get ready to be branded for good a dangerous scammer supporter.
Many devs have reviewed it and said it was an instamine.
Any person deliberately and wilfully preventing valid scammer warnings being provided to honest members are as bad as the scammers themselves.

I dont care what other projects you think are instamines or premines it is irrelevant. Especially at that time when instamine and premine were big no no.

Dark was 100% proven an instamine and the dev offered 2 000 000 000 usd equiv compensation airdrop.
Even lauda calls it instamined scam now he dumped all of his coins
I don't accept CH invented the idea and bullied Evan into offering 2 000 000 000usd or 20m at the time offer that crushed the entire cap by 60% in a day if he knew he didnt do anything wrong.


Whether was accidental or not does not matter was still an instamine.

Funny though rather than fixing that series of " accidents " by restarting after only a few hours. They decide oh no we will cut away 75% of the remaining minting to magnify our instamined loot many Times over.
Scams scam pushers scammer supporters the forum is rank with them.

Lol at your heroes proven willing scam facilitators for pay and sneaky sock puppet racist trolling scammer supporters.
You probably are an alt of lauda dirt bag
These are non achieving newbie scum like you.

Now get back to the homework I gave you. Lol at nutildah and thepharmacist. Two proven dirtbags more of your disgusting friends. Fancy referencing those low life non achieving scammer supporting scum

The truth is not trolling.

Just more speculation,  scam excusing, scammer assmunching with some false equivalence and idiotic irrelevant comparisons.
Shut up and await your own thread. I'll get around to you after i get done with the members I have at least heard of . 





















legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
I am not side stepping anything, I am directly addressing your baseless accusation. Since you have chosen to attempt to make a lie truth through repetition, I am just going to start quoting some of the many responses I have already given to your argument which you refuse to actually address in lieu of repeating yourself like a parrot who desperately wants a cracker.

You completely sidestepped addressing the fact that I proved you were presenting events out of order. You were adding Turkish users to your trust list before Sept 7th, 2019, the day you involved yourself in their dispute with Timelord. There's no way I can make it any more clear to everybody than I already did.

Now stop lying.

You completely sidestepped addressing Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster. Never mind that these things have nothing to do with the facts of the matter, what is important is that I demand you address them as if they are real! If you don't address them as facts then you are just side stepping them!


In order to "manufacture timelines", one has to first operate on the assumption that your timeline means anything other than more assumptions on your part. You feel you have some kind of right to not only demand I explain why I included these people, but that it must be done in such a manner commensurate with your demands, or else I am "manufacturing timelines". It is not that you are making baseless assumptions, no, not at all, it is because I am "manufacturing timelines" that my replies don't meet the standards of your demands.

Not only that there were private communications as well, there is also the fact that I thought their trust lists were also positive additions.

Some of the users I added for the simple reason that I agreed with their trust list. Is this where you tell me again what is a valid reason for me deciding who I do or don't include based on your own personal preferences? Nothing you are accusing me of is anything that couldn't literally be applied to any other member actively using custom trust lists. Much like a fed uses process crimes to charge people with crimes when they have no evidence, you are using the idea that I don't meet your arbitrary standards in your interrogation as "proof" of my guilt. This is all just a game you are playing to pursue your own vendetta.


But since I admittedly can't prove that I know what you were actually thinking or what your actual motivations were, I ask that people look at the body of evidence presented and come to their own conclusions.


There is no "body of evidence". There are a string of assumptions, with accusations stacked on top of them upon which even more assumptions were based. That is not evidence, that is at best theorizing and nothing a trust rating should be based on. Once again, I manufactured nothing. You seem intent on this being some kind of deception, just like all your other assumptions here.

Some of the users I included because I thought their trust lists were beneficial, some of them I included because of their response to the advice concerning the removal of support from a frivolous flag. It is as simple as that, no "manufacturing of timelines" needed. This is purely a projection on your part designed to impugn my character to serve your own personal vendettas, and the vendettas of people like Vod.

Vultures like you saw I was achieving something positive and did a deep dive into my toilet bowl looking for any peanut fragments you could find in order to tarnish this effort that yielded positive results, because if I have a say in the default trust, I will erode the unilateral control and protection from being penalized for your own abuses that you and your friends currently enjoy. All the same people abusing negative ratings against me are all the same peanut hunters that are the most vocal in opposition to my calls for an objective standard of evidence before leaving negative ratings. This is about serving yourself, not about protecting the forum from me.



TECHSHARE seems to be saying that he does not need to explain his reasons to you. If we only talk about the trust with the Turkish users, he says that he may have added them for his own reasons. At one point, i think he has said that he wants the forum to have more diversity in DT1. That diversity also seems to be primarily targeted on having sufficient opposition to the "clown car" or whatever. LOL.

Hi TECHSHARE. I want to present a case before you. Please hear me out. You have an impressive trading history. You seems to be a person who wants solutions rather than drama but due to past conflicts with Vod etc., it seems that you have taken a stand against the "DT1 clique" that some people complain about. I can see that you don't like people going into the depths of a users history and bringing out their actions to gauge motivation, leaving negs and feedback on its basis. Yet, don't you think that the forum is more or less only self-policed against those who want to only milk for money through alts in campaigns or wish to promote alt-coins so they can get rich from Alts trading?

You add users to counter-balance DT-1. That does not seem to be a good reason. I saw that when you were trying to moderate honorably between AbitNut and that StonerStanley guy, it ended up being frustrating for yourself because the users didn't exactly turn out to be as reasonable as you had hoped.

Good thing I have you here to tell me what I am saying, I certainly couldn't do that without you selectively interpreting my words into what you wish them to be. I explained myself several times, Nutilduhh is intent on pretending that they caught me in some kind of ulterior motives when it is based on absolutely nothing but their own assumptions and bias against me. I don't need to explain myself because I have done it 100 times already and Nutilduhh doesn't want to hear anything except the narrative that serves their personal vendetta.

Amishmanish, you are a rube. You don't have any idea what is going on around here no matter how much you believe you do. I don't have any problem with people's actions being explored. I have a problem with the fact that these interrogations almost exclusively are the direct result of criticism against the people who perpetrate them as a form of retribution. There is a reason due process exists in law, because it protects people from being subjected to a cavity search every time they look at the local constable funny. This forum is full of a bunch of losers running around trying to stick their fingers up people's butts because they don't like what they have to say, and it is revolting. Whats more anyone who speaks up about this is demonized as "causing drama" or "defending scammers", because no one gives a shit, until it is their butt of course. Fortunately for the amateur proctologists, and unfortunately for the rest of the user base, this is how singling out people works, and resistance is only possible when people act as a collective block. This is why a counterbalance to the peanut hunting proctologist clowns is so vital.
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1. I just provided evidence NOBODY EXCEPT THE DEVS COULD MINE AT LAUNCH
Have another read. This was confirmed by the devs who offered a 2 000 000 000 usd equivalent compensation offer
LOL..You provided no EVIDENCE you asinine, retard. you provided a post from a newbie account that somehow concluded that all 100 of those AWS instances and nodes were being run by the founder dev and his "TEAM". That is conjecture and not evidence. In the initial 4 hours, when the dev posted about a bug in code, the people who responded were also being updated and later said that they were later able to mine. This DRK coin later turned into DASH which people bought at cheap prices and it was filled with people from both sides. Those who benefited and those who lost. The ROI on CMC is >9000%. There were a lot of winners and a whole bunch of losers. The dev Evan had a lot of leverage due to the novel source code. No doubt, he is the one who benefited out of it most. Including a lot of people who got on the train early. In that, this is no different than ETH where the inital holders benefited immensely. Even BTC founder has a stash of a million BTC. That doesn't make it a instamine. Though of course, the brilliance of Satoshi meant that he walked away from that stash as well as from taking ownership of the community unlike the scammers who later peddled these Alts and made themselves billionaries. Everyone wishes that these distributions were more ethical but it just became the norm back then. There are a lot of people arguing about this on that thread.

Hence, you have debunked nothing. Every person on this forum with even a remote capability of analysis can see that you are a joke. You have had alts after alts peddling the same theories throughout your posting history. I am no super keen Lauda fan. I am only looking at your crap posts that you have littered the forum with. Lauda will get what they have earned. They have done a lot of stuff but most non-retarded people on the forum don't buy your shit about all the people who are trying to prevent scammers here. You seem to be the master troll whose ultimate aim is to distract everybody who is actively engaged in finding scammers or providing analysis that nails spammer. This includies nutildah, marlborozo, Lauda, The Pharmacist, LoyceV etc. All these are people who at some point have wielded sufficient power against alt-account spammers. You on the other hand are interested in defending the nouveau scammers on the forum.

LMAO..Where am i defending Lauda in the argument you freak?? I have only read the links you keep posting and people downthread itself don't completely agree with these "evidences". You spread lies, misinformation and hatred and give it the name of defending truth, you insidious bastard. Who gives you the authority to talk like you are some judge of people's intentions here? I have seen this pattern of pointing out signature campaigns and giving your stupid judgements. Fuck off you moron. I engage respectfully in this forum so don't you dare point fingers at me that I am part of some Alt-gang or defending any scammer.

YOU KEEP REPEATING THOSE PHRASES: "INCONTROVERTIBLE PROOF, UNDENIABLE SCAMMER,".OLD BROKEN RECORD.

You have no authority here man. Your post history is proof that you have accomplished nothing on this forum and have no positive contribution. Envious people like you never do anything in life. You can continue with your jealous crusade. I would be happy to put you on ignore but I don't like doing such things as everybody has a right to their opinion.

 
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--snip-- You'll never change his mind about anything, and that's why he's a troll.
I am starting to get that this is what he is doing. He contributes nothing except repeating the same old points and calling everyone names. His writing style clearly shows that he claims to be far more informed than he really is. He has no idea of "difference of opinion" about people that will be inherent in the forum like this. He clearly is trolling just for the fun of it, repeating himself condescendingly.

Instead, he feeds on your responses -- his main dysfunction being that he mistakes bad attention for good. If you don't respond to him, he withers and slinks away, having to reinvent himself with a new account later on just to trick people into reading his asinine posts.
Seriously I am done too. He calls my responses as "Lies and speculation", fuck you bonesjones, you seem like someone who has gone off the rail for a long time.  Your hero CH himself was arguing in one of those threads that people on Windows should have been able to mine too. Then the others replied along the line that "If you are in crypto, you should know linux". At the same thread that you quote, there are plenty of people who are spreading FUD, and others replying to it who are talking about developers deserving some initial bonus. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about it. There is so much more to that story than just the narrative that you want to push. There are posts by people happy that they stumbled across it. There is an opposing group who thinks it was all planned. At the end, That XCOIN, DRK, DASH thing has the same story like so many other initial cryptocurrencies. A lot of people who won big, a lot of people who regret that they lost. Seriously, get over your bitterness about whatever happened to you. Try to be constructive and not be an arrogant, self-repeating asshole. You also don't reply to my questions on people spreading conspiracy theories at the Turkish local. You just keep repeating your own story and insulting others while throwing in more and more of old posts that agree to your own viewpoint. I took the time to read those posts that you quote as proofs. They turn out to be one side of the story and all depends on how one sees it. Yet, you want people to see it just the way YOU see it. Okay Mr. bonesjones, we are done here.

I got tired of seeing his toxic posts all over the forum some time ago, even the ignore button doesn't cut it anymore because everyone keeps quoting him - please stop doing that everyone!....lol
Yeah man. I think this is what feeding a troll is. My bad. He keeps claiming about how he is right about everything and insults anyone who doesn't agree to his viewpoint or opinion. He is just salty that people at the forum have done much better than him. Infact, most of the people who were here at 2014 or so, if they were any good at programming etc, most of them ran away with one or the other Alt and turned into those Altcoin businessmen and millionaires. Even the most idiotic of people from back then ended up doing something out of sheer luck. Bonesjones seems to be on of those people who completely missed out. That is why now he turns all his negativity towards this forum and some people here. Anyone who opposes him becomes a "signature spammer", "Roobet", "Bot" or whatever. With all the time he had behind him and spent on this forum, he could have done something constructive. I am done trying to argue with him.


God this guy is thick as shit. Still a mishmash of lies and misleading shit.

1. I just provided evidence NOBODY EXCEPT THE DEVS COULD MINE AT LAUNCH
Have another read. This was confirmed by the devs who offered a 2 000 000 000 usd equivalent compensation offer
You stupid lying asshole.

You obviously have no clue what you are talking about.

This is now becoming deliberate and willful scammers supporting and spreading lies.

I will be reminding Roobet not to sponsor those spreading lies.

The rest of your crap quoting a proven willing scam facilitator for pay nutildah sponsored by fortunejack is hilarious.

You can read about that willing scam facilitator for pay here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5190369.20

It is an impossible lie that lauda told that he was on the launch and could confirm no instamine happened.

Lol at the undeniable truth being trolling

Dont repeat your lies again. Those have long since been debunked conclusively

Lol at quoting proven willing scam facilitators.

Providing incontrovertible proof = trolling

What a scammer supporter. Is Roobet aware the are sponsoring members spreading lies to protect scammers ?

Chipmixer is also sponsoring many of these types. They must be warned about each one.

These are the exact types of lies .any chipmixer sponsored scum are promugating to protect and facilitate scammers.

Quoting proven scammers and their pals crying about trolling when they have been unable to debunk a single point made ever does not bolster your lies.

Debunk the points or accept them as true. Where did this a mish mash of scammer supporting lies comes from ? All of a sudden  a super keen lauda fan appears when lauda is getting busted hard?
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--snip-- You'll never change his mind about anything, and that's why he's a troll.
I am starting to get that this is what he is doing. He contributes nothing except repeating the same old points and calling everyone names. His writing style clearly shows that he claims to be far more informed than he really is. He has no idea of "difference of opinion" about people that will be inherent in the forum like this. He clearly is trolling just for the fun of it, repeating himself condescendingly.

Instead, he feeds on your responses -- his main dysfunction being that he mistakes bad attention for good. If you don't respond to him, he withers and slinks away, having to reinvent himself with a new account later on just to trick people into reading his asinine posts.
Seriously I am done too. He calls my responses as "Lies and speculation", fuck you bonesjones, you seem like someone who has gone off the rail for a long time.  Your hero CH himself was arguing in one of those threads that people on Windows should have been able to mine too. Then the others replied along the line that "If you are in crypto, you should know linux". At the same thread that you quote, there are plenty of people who are spreading FUD, and others replying to it who are talking about developers deserving some initial bonus. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about it. There is so much more to that story than just the narrative that you want to push. There are posts by people happy that they stumbled across it. There is an opposing group who thinks it was all planned. At the end, That XCOIN, DRK, DASH thing has the same story like so many other initial cryptocurrencies. A lot of people who won big, a lot of people who regret that they lost. Seriously, get over your bitterness about whatever happened to you. Try to be constructive and not be an arrogant, self-repeating asshole. You also don't reply to my questions on people spreading conspiracy theories at the Turkish local. You just keep repeating your own story and insulting others while throwing in more and more of old posts that agree to your own viewpoint. I took the time to read those posts that you quote as proofs. They turn out to be one side of the story and all depends on how one sees it. Yet, you want people to see it just the way YOU see it. Okay Mr. bonesjones, we are done here.

I got tired of seeing his toxic posts all over the forum some time ago, even the ignore button doesn't cut it anymore because everyone keeps quoting him - please stop doing that everyone!....lol
Yeah man. I think this is what feeding a troll is. My bad. He keeps claiming about how he is right about everything and insults anyone who doesn't agree to his viewpoint or opinion. He is just salty that people at the forum have done much better than him. Infact, most of the people who were here at 2014 or so, if they were any good at programming etc, most of them ran away with one or the other Alt and turned into those Altcoin businessmen and millionaires. Even the most idiotic of people from back then ended up doing something out of sheer luck. Bonesjones seems to be on of those people who completely missed out. That is why now he turns all his negativity towards this forum and some people here. Anyone who opposes him becomes a "signature spammer", "Roobet", "Bot" or whatever. With all the time he had behind him and spent on this forum, he could have done something constructive. I am done trying to argue with him.
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Considering your trust inclusions list I don't expect TS should take any tips from you.
Stacked full of greedy self serving scammer supporters and scammers.
Let TS consider what he considers. Its your "opinion" that those in my trust list are greedy scammers. Similarly, in my opinion, the people i am asking TS to reconsider are greedy scammers.

And how are you getting along with that home work i set you?

Have you finished fully researching the putrid scamming scum yet?

There is not one member I oppose that is not a proven dirt bag.
You are so confident and troll these people incessantly because you seem to have been harmed some way by these people. You hate them personally or something. I don't know. You have been doing this from your CryptoHunter, TOAA days (the resemblance is unmistakable, i must say). I saw that the "extortion scam" that every one loves to talk about was the first one where this whole thing erupted between Lauda and others. TS also did not agree on the way it was settled. There is evidence that it wasn't done for scamming. Infact, the person it was intended for (zeroaxl, right?) himself said that no harm was done. Theymos got involved and lead to Lauda being removed from Mod/ Staff position. Lauda and a few others did over-exert their authority on the forum going so far as trying to be real-world sleuths and catch him for some "actual crimes" they thought he committed (including an exchange hack). This was the general over-zealous stretching of authority by Lauda. And, I agree that Vod also seems to do that quite a bit.

Yet, for someone like me who has only came to the forum in 2017 amid that crazy ICO bubble, I have seen that people like Lauda have been a net positive. I mean there was nobody else banning spammers and scammers so seriously till it became a forum hobby for merit-earning for a lot of people. That is why i trust their judgement. That Darkcoin conspiracy doesn't cut it. From the posts i can see that she said in the beginning that there was no instamine in the sense that "People with Linux could still mine". It ended up that only a few people had that capability at the time so ended up mining most of it. CH was particularly hurt on this because he indeed missed out because he was on Windows maybe.

An instamine would be one that automatically grants the founders lot of initial coins before a miner or any sort of hardware is out. it doesn't seem to be an instamine in that sense. 4 years later, Lauda seems to have changed her mind on a lot of Alts and while Alt-bashing she referred to it as an "Instamine scam". By that time, the ICO scams had all blown up pretty badly and the definitions for a lot of things changed. The hopeful brashness towards alts in 2014 had been replaced by a general consensus that they were mostly scams by devs looking to capitalize and exit scam. In 2014, people on the forum knowing and able to mine would not be called an instamine. By 2017-18, when Lauda made that statement, people had been making up ICO projects only on Telegram and ANN threads and just giving themselves the inital lots. That phrase "Instamine scam" covered a lot of things. The opposition to it not being an "instamine" in 2014 is technical, back when crypto was still mostly technical and had not blown up to the general public yet.

Lol at the conspiracy theories.

Stfu debunk the conspiracy or quit your scammer supporting slobbering.
I am not talking about only the conspiracy theories they propagate about DT-1. Yet, from DarkStar_ saying that he did not know of the "trust inclusion" issue, it is clear that him not choosing Turkish posters has nothing to do with DT-1 conspiracy to corner all "juicy campaigns" etc. That is just ridiculous.
You seem to be only interested in the forum drama. I am also interested in Bitcoin. What do YOU make of all that bullshit about BCH, BSV, Blockstream conspiracy that those people are peddling in their threads?? Isn't this forum about bitcoin?? Its not about some scammer alt-coin. Members who aim to be respectable representatives of the community ought not be doing this just for promoting whatever scam-alt they think will give them most returns in the hopes of "flippening" or whatever peddled by Ver, Jihan, faketoshi. Forum drama aside, What is your opinion on that?

A mish mash of weird ideas being splattered everywhere by some newbie who does not know anything of the history of members here or who does but still wants to support scammers.

Take your slobbering elsewhere Roobet.

Mr. Jones, You are one of the few people in this forum who cannot blame anybody for "mish mash of weird ideas" and "slobbering". At least try to appreciate the effort it takes to get through your posts man.

More lies and irrelevant speculation.

Please do the home work again.

Lauda is a proven scammer telling impossible lies.

NOBODY COULD MINE EXCEPT THE DEV TEAM ON LAUNCH.

Stop lying

Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4589219
Edufield said (after failed launch) that he will wait the next day to launch DRK (XCoin at that time) it is 11 pm.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4591407
Edufield disregard windows wallet and daemon and hurry up his launch, presumably to not have windows miners on board.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4592827
Edufield say he added four nodes for the launch at 4 am (5 hours later, despite his promise to wait). The 4 nodes from Edufield are 3 amazons AWS + another unknown (whois IP). Launch started at 3h54 am.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4593601
Edufield said the github version was not updated, nobody could compile and only Edufield was able to mine until that time. It is 5.09 am and Edufield instamined alone 1153 block at 500 DRK + 60 block at reward 277 = 593120 DRK for him alone in about 1 hour.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4593987
No windows wallet confirmed at 5h47 am, despite a user attempt to make one avaiable, that Edufield dismissed quickly.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4594096
Illodin, understand dev has instamined alot of coin.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4595573
From this list of nodes, at 8h34 am (4h40 after launch) there were 50 Amazon AWS node and 50 microsoft cloud computing instamining DRK (checked using IP whois service). This is 100/124 nodes using cloud computing to instamine DRK. We are at block 2870 and block reward is 500. From block 1153-1729 block reward is 277. After that it is 500 again hence 2294 block at 500 + 576 at 277 = 1306552 DRK (worth about 13M$ now) were instamined in less than 5 hour by Edufield and coworkers using about 100 cloud mining instances. Edufield himself instamined in not even 5 h from 600K to 1169K DRK ((1306K-600K)*100/124 + 600K) depending how many of the 100 cloud mining instance were its own. All this while having purposefully set the difficult ridiculously low and block reward 100 times what it is now.

From 6M$ - 13M$ in 5 h, Edufield did some lucrative work here!

Edufield is nominee for the Master Scammer 2014 award!

So lauda claiming and maintaining the claim to dupe investors for months

That he was on the launch so could confirm there was no instamine is an impossible lie.
Totally confirmed by the launch analysis and admitted by the dev team. On release nobody could mine except the developers.
Even if that were not true ( which it was) it could still and would still have been an instamine

He is telling a lie that is impossible.

Now stop telling lies and supporting scammers.

Lol at red tagging some whack a mole shitty 2 bit scammers whilst pushing the biggest scams

Lauda even calls it a premined scam when he has conveniently dumped his bags.

Newbies don't know shit.  Amishmash of misleading bogus scammer defending crap.

Lol at selectively busting 2 bit whack a mole scammers while pushing huge scams and extorting people and giving red tags to people for saying they will encourage people to review his history here.
Net positive lol

Anytime supporting scammers directly were I can find documented evidence are going to need be avoided by sponsors
If you want to sponsor members with documented conclusive proof of scamming or direct scammer supporting expect the truth to be exposed regularly. Campaign managers say they want trustworthy members

Well then these campaign managers better do their research.

If you want to sponsor scammers, or direct scammer facilitators and protectors expect the truth to be told

Strike all lies and misinformation from a mishmash I gave him the links directly to the truth and he comes back telling lies.
If I see him repeating these lies again then I must assume this is direct and undeniable scammer supporting.  

I also expect him and all chipmixer sponsored members to take the required action they should when dealing with any proven scammers
Those chipmixer sponsored members scammer facilitating and depriving honest members of valuable scammer warnings will be called out regularly and truthfully for the scammer facilitating untrustworthy and highly dangerous scum they are.

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Always ask questions. #StandWithHongKong

You strike me as an eloquent writer and I enjoy reading your posts, and because your talents are better suited in more productive discussions, I advise you to stop responding to the forum's biggest troll. You'll never change his mind about anything, and that's why he's a troll. Instead, he feeds on your responses -- his main dysfunction being that he mistakes bad attention for good. If you don't respond to him, he withers and slinks away, having to reinvent himself with a new account later on just to trick people into reading his asinine posts.

Frankly nobody understands why he hasn't been banned yet as he contributes nothing worthwhile to the forum and is obviously here just to troll, but meanwhile there's no point in expending energy on him. It took me a while to stop as well because of his continuous attacks me. Only after I stopped caring did I realize that nobody else cares about what he has to say either.

I got tired of seeing his toxic posts all over the forum some time ago, even the ignore button doesn't cut it anymore because everyone keeps quoting him - please stop doing that everyone!....lol
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You strike me as an eloquent writer and I enjoy reading your posts, and because your talents are better suited in more productive discussions, I advise you to stop responding to the forum's biggest troll. You'll never change his mind about anything, and that's why he's a troll. Instead, he feeds on your responses -- his main dysfunction being that he mistakes bad attention for good. If you don't respond to him, he withers and slinks away, having to reinvent himself with a new account later on just to trick people into reading his asinine posts.

Frankly nobody understands why he hasn't been banned yet as he contributes nothing worthwhile to the forum and is obviously here just to troll, but meanwhile there's no point in expending energy on him. It took me a while to stop as well because of his continuous attacks me. Only after I stopped caring did I realize that nobody else cares about what he has to say either.
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Considering your trust inclusions list I don't expect TS should take any tips from you.
Stacked full of greedy self serving scammer supporters and scammers.
Let TS consider what he considers. Its your "opinion" that those in my trust list are greedy scammers. Similarly, in my opinion, the people i am asking TS to reconsider are greedy scammers.

And how are you getting along with that home work i set you?

Have you finished fully researching the putrid scamming scum yet?

There is not one member I oppose that is not a proven dirt bag.
You are so confident and troll these people incessantly because you seem to have been harmed some way by these people. You hate them personally or something. I don't know. You have been doing this from your CryptoHunter, TOAA days (the resemblance is unmistakable, i must say). I saw that the "extortion scam" that every one loves to talk about was the first one where this whole thing erupted between Lauda and others. TS also did not agree on the way it was settled. There is evidence that it wasn't done for scamming. Infact, the person it was intended for (zeroaxl, right?) himself said that no harm was done. Theymos got involved and lead to Lauda being removed from Mod/ Staff position. Lauda and a few others did over-exert their authority on the forum going so far as trying to be real-world sleuths and catch him for some "actual crimes" they thought he committed (including an exchange hack). This was the general over-zealous stretching of authority by Lauda. And, I agree that Vod also seems to do that quite a bit.

Yet, for someone like me who has only came to the forum in 2017 amid that crazy ICO bubble, I have seen that people like Lauda have been a net positive. I mean there was nobody else banning spammers and scammers so seriously till it became a forum hobby for merit-earning for a lot of people. That is why i trust their judgement. That Darkcoin conspiracy doesn't cut it. From the posts i can see that she said in the beginning that there was no instamine in the sense that "People with Linux could still mine". It ended up that only a few people had that capability at the time so ended up mining most of it. CH was particularly hurt on this because he indeed missed out because he was on Windows maybe.

An instamine would be one that automatically grants the founders lot of initial coins before a miner or any sort of hardware is out. it doesn't seem to be an instamine in that sense. 4 years later, Lauda seems to have changed her mind on a lot of Alts and while Alt-bashing she referred to it as an "Instamine scam". By that time, the ICO scams had all blown up pretty badly and the definitions for a lot of things changed. The hopeful brashness towards alts in 2014 had been replaced by a general consensus that they were mostly scams by devs looking to capitalize and exit scam. In 2014, people on the forum knowing and able to mine would not be called an instamine. By 2017-18, when Lauda made that statement, people had been making up ICO projects only on Telegram and ANN threads and just giving themselves the inital lots. That phrase "Instamine scam" covered a lot of things. The opposition to it not being an "instamine" in 2014 is technical, back when crypto was still mostly technical and had not blown up to the general public yet.

Lol at the conspiracy theories.

Stfu debunk the conspiracy or quit your scammer supporting slobbering.
I am not talking about only the conspiracy theories they propagate about DT-1. Yet, from DarkStar_ saying that he did not know of the "trust inclusion" issue, it is clear that him not choosing Turkish posters has nothing to do with DT-1 conspiracy to corner all "juicy campaigns" etc. That is just ridiculous.
You seem to be only interested in the forum drama. I am also interested in Bitcoin. What do YOU make of all that bullshit about BCH, BSV, Blockstream conspiracy that those people are peddling in their threads?? Isn't this forum about bitcoin?? Its not about some scammer alt-coin. Members who aim to be respectable representatives of the community ought not be doing this just for promoting whatever scam-alt they think will give them most returns in the hopes of "flippening" or whatever peddled by Ver, Jihan, faketoshi. Forum drama aside, What is your opinion on that?

A mish mash of weird ideas being splattered everywhere by some newbie who does not know anything of the history of members here or who does but still wants to support scammers.

Take your slobbering elsewhere Roobet.

Mr. Jones, You are one of the few people in this forum who cannot blame anybody for "mish mash of weird ideas" and "slobbering". At least try to appreciate the effort it takes to get through your posts man.
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TECHSHARE seems to be saying that he does not need to explain his reasons to you. If we only talk about the trust with the Turkish users, he says that he may have added them for his own reasons. At one point, i think he has said that he wants the forum to have more diversity in DT1. That diversity also seems to be primarily targeted on having sufficient opposition to the "clown car" or whatever. LOL.

I wouldn't have stepped in if he hadn't said this:

I mediated a dispute between Timelord and some members of the Turkish community, they added me, as a result I ended up back on the default trust list.
I get it nutildah. I just wanted to re-state what TECHSHARE has been saying and try to look at it from his viewpoint. He has taken a personal interest in trying to make DT1 more diverse. I am only trying to make him see that his intention maybe good but the guiding factor should not be "I want to take a look on whoever the DT1-Clique targets". He has said here: (emphasis mine)
You want to REALLY know why I added those Turkish users? Because they were just barely off the DT and I wanted to see it more diverse. Additionally because anyone the resident clowns exclude I immediately find interest in. The Turkish community was obviously being targeted. I don't believe it was for racist reasons though, I just think the clowns feel like they can't keep their iron grip of nepotism if more groups are included. All this circus is, is punishment for working to bust up their little clown cartel, and it is painfully transparent.

Through what i have seen of those particular Turkish users, especially Vispilio, they are eloquent but insidious. Just look at the posts spreading conspiracies about DT-1 controlling Theymos, Blockstream controlling DT-1 and all of them somehow conspiring to keep his alt-coins out of the forum. Isn't this forum supposed to be about Bitcoin?? The legendary and older turkish members are supposed to act as "guides" to the newer local members. Instead, this is the shit they are peddling in the name of "justice", "national pride" etc etc. Don't we have enough of the Roger Ver businessmen types who choose to make the most of the "business opportunity" even if it meant putting decentralization at stake?? (See quoted post from mindrust above)

These people keep saying that Theymos should do something. If there is one thing I know about Theymos from his past actions, he is not someone who would look kindly at people who attempt to change or disparage Bitcoin because they somehow aren't able to EARN enough from it. That behavior is typical of people like Ver, Jihan, Faketoshi. These are the points I have tried explaining to him. I hope he tries seeing it from this viewpoint. Him adding people to DT-1 and thus empowering them should be a more responsible action.

If he really wants diversity, there are plenty of users in the Indonesian, Fillipino and even Indian section who don't want to compromise on Bitcoin just so they can earn more for themselves. There are people contributing to technical sections and having a good enough knowledge on the history of bitcoin such that they don't fall for the conspiracy theories peddled by trolls on r/btc. What are we even doing at this forum if we can't stick to certain tenets?? I personally like to believe that this isn't just "business".



Considering your trust inclusions list I don't expect TS should take any tips from you.
Stacked full of greedy self serving scammer supporters and scammers.

And how are you getting along with that home work i set you?

Have you finished fully researching the putrid scamming scum yet?

There is not one member I oppose that is not a proven dirt bag.

Lol at the conspiracy theories.

Stfu debunk the conspiracy or quit your scammer supporting slobbering.

Nutildah is a proven willing scam facilitator for pay who tries to delete the evidence and red tag his whistleblowers, oh yeah who doesnt want to wear a sig. 

A mish mash of weird ideas being splattered everywhere by some newbie who does not know anything of the history of members here or who does but still wants to support scammers.

Take your slobbering elsewhere Roobet.
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TECHSHARE seems to be saying that he does not need to explain his reasons to you. If we only talk about the trust with the Turkish users, he says that he may have added them for his own reasons. At one point, i think he has said that he wants the forum to have more diversity in DT1. That diversity also seems to be primarily targeted on having sufficient opposition to the "clown car" or whatever. LOL.

I wouldn't have stepped in if he hadn't said this:

I mediated a dispute between Timelord and some members of the Turkish community, they added me, as a result I ended up back on the default trust list.
I get it nutildah. I just wanted to re-state what TECHSHARE has been saying and try to look at it from his viewpoint. He has taken a personal interest in trying to make DT1 more diverse. I am only trying to make him see that his intention maybe good but the guiding factor should not be "I want to take a look on whoever the DT1-Clique targets". He has said here: (emphasis mine)
You want to REALLY know why I added those Turkish users? Because they were just barely off the DT and I wanted to see it more diverse. Additionally because anyone the resident clowns exclude I immediately find interest in. The Turkish community was obviously being targeted. I don't believe it was for racist reasons though, I just think the clowns feel like they can't keep their iron grip of nepotism if more groups are included. All this circus is, is punishment for working to bust up their little clown cartel, and it is painfully transparent.

Through what i have seen of those particular Turkish users, especially Vispilio, they are eloquent but insidious. Just look at the posts spreading conspiracies about DT-1 controlling Theymos, Blockstream controlling DT-1 and all of them somehow conspiring to keep his alt-coins out of the forum. Isn't this forum supposed to be about Bitcoin?? The legendary and older turkish members are supposed to act as "guides" to the newer local members. Instead, this is the shit they are peddling in the name of "justice", "national pride" etc etc. Don't we have enough of the Roger Ver businessmen types who choose to make the most of the "business opportunity" even if it meant putting decentralization at stake?? (See quoted post from mindrust above)

These people keep saying that Theymos should do something. If there is one thing I know about Theymos from his past actions, he is not someone who would look kindly at people who attempt to change or disparage Bitcoin because they somehow aren't able to EARN enough from it. That behavior is typical of people like Ver, Jihan, Faketoshi. These are the points I have tried explaining to him. I hope he tries seeing it from this viewpoint. Him adding people to DT-1 and thus empowering them should be a more responsible action.

If he really wants diversity, there are plenty of users in the Indonesian, Fillipino and even Indian section who don't want to compromise on Bitcoin just so they can earn more for themselves. There are people contributing to technical sections and having a good enough knowledge on the history of bitcoin such that they don't fall for the conspiracy theories peddled by trolls on r/btc. What are we even doing at this forum if we can't stick to certain tenets?? I personally like to believe that this isn't just "business".

legendary
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TECHSHARE seems to be saying that he does not need to explain his reasons to you. If we only talk about the trust with the Turkish users, he says that he may have added them for his own reasons. At one point, i think he has said that he wants the forum to have more diversity in DT1. That diversity also seems to be primarily targeted on having sufficient opposition to the "clown car" or whatever. LOL.

I wouldn't have stepped in if he hadn't said this:

I mediated a dispute between Timelord and some members of the Turkish community, they added me, as a result I ended up back on the default trust list.

This is not what happened. With the exception of 1 member, (Blacknavy), he added all of them first, before he knew how they would respond to his "mediation" (or well before the entire thing took place). The real order of events is this:

- TS gets included by Turkish members and ends up back on DT1 (with a positive score)
- TS "mediates" dispute between Timelord on Turkish community
- TS's reciprocal trust inclusion history is exposed
- TS falls back off DT1 (with negative net inclusions)
...7 months later...
- TS ends up "back on" the default trust list with +2 inclusions

Now he'll probably try to switch the subject to anything other than why he made up a fake timeline in order to make it seem like he wasn't fishing for reciprocal trust inclusions.
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ps. just the fact that genuinely insightful users like bonesjonesreturns have to hide behind alternate aliases to speak the truth on this forum,

while terrorists like ~lauda manage to sustain artificially net positive DT trust sheets, is all the evidence you need that this forum is broken,

Meanwhile more and more people seem to believe that Blockstream just wants to keep it that way in an attempt to silence all crypto competition with its paid trolls that have taken over Bitcointalk

"Censorship! Blorgstream! Theymos!"

LoL  i didn't see this one before. Now he devolved into a Ver?

Tell that noob .com forum and r/btc is that way:
https://forum.bitcoin.com/
https://old.reddit.com/r/btc/

The pattern he is drawing is pretty much the same that Roger did in the past. All greed. They'll like each other well... for a while.

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