Topic: 🔥 FAKE: Defamation At Its Worst During Chipmixer Applications 🔥 - page 6. (Read 3846 times)

It is absolutely pointless trying to engage with the handful of Turkish gang-members that have colluded to try to sow seeds of hatred and division within this forum of ours. They are compulsive liars who would probably sell their own grandmother for a photo of the traitor "Kemal Pasha" aka "fake-Attaturk" just because they idolise him.

For a merit abuser and fake trust circle participant such as Kalemder to say "There are more important things than money in this life" is just another attempt at misdirecting.

This guy showed himself to be an idiot without morals ready to support turkish baboons such as yourself in any kind of abuse. Don't blame me when you expose your own evil nature scumbag. I do not even know what campaign the user is/was in, they are of no importance to me or this place.

If you only understood that for more than 1 second, we would not be here.

False. No such thing was claimed. Lauda and his gang trying to do this.  But you're unsuccessful. What you do is simple mouth games. What you write to Bitcointurk, Muslol and others.Look at the negatives. @Bthd stated an idea contrary to you.  The next day he was removed from the campaign. Everything is money for you.  So you tag every developing person. All this is power drunkenness. This is the effort to influence campaign managers.

Anyway.  Reason for removal was written and discussed earlier. I told him I trusted the Darkstar_  judgment. I respected his decision. My Turkish posts are appreciated by the turkish community.  I will continue to be useful to the Turkish crypto community. There are more important things than money in this life.

Stay with goodness...

Hope now our Turkish friends can stop blaming people about "opening of topics against them during lucrative signature bounties."

@Kalemder and others. I have posted this only for awareness on the issue especially regarding the off-rail accusations of a few people about DT-1/ ChipMixer/ Blockstream etc. Its misguiding to new people and bad for bitcoin in general. You selectively posted in your reply that I trust Lauda because I participated in a signature campaign. This is typical of the selective morality employed by your other friend who has been deleting my replies in local section. Let me quote my full reply where I have explained why I have Lauda in my Trust list.

From that whole explanation, your friend wolwoo pointed out that small part in your local trying to portray me as another alt or inspired by money. Just because some people cannot think beyond monetary gain doesn't mean others cannot. To Turkish members , I only request that at least call out those who try to portray everything as a conspiracy. Not only are these guys attacking DT-1 and the forum but now even bitcoin.

Having someone on my trust list simply means that I trust their "judgement". When a person by virtue of their constant effort on the forum ends up being trusted by multiple people, they may come on Default Trust. Now, it is natural that people on DT-1 can surely have some differences of opinion amongst themselves. Yet, I strongly believe that they should be uncompromising on a few basic tenets.
1. They should be more than account-farming, bounty hunting shitposters whose only concern in the forum is "lucrative signature bounties".
2. They should agree on the bitcoin phenomena and not feed conspiracy theories propagated by marketers like Roger Ver and fake actors like Craig Wright.
3. They should beware of actors that want to scam/ hack people out of their bitcoin holdings.

Those would be the basic qualities I'll expect from a DT-1. Ask yourself what you want.

Perhaps you should stay current with truthful and legitimate evidence demonstrating clearly you are sponsoring multiple scammer supporters and trust abusers.

Never mind google will eventually start to get the message home to chipmixer directly.

Irresponsible to sponsor scammer supporters,  trust abusers and racist double standards scum how are obviously cycling merit and self appointing themselves to default trust.

If you are not complicit you must be fully retarded

Thanks for having my legitimate application deleted from your thread. That's another one in the thread queue to come soon.

Probably blissfully unaware of the scammer lauda claiming he will red trust the Turkish members that apply and get accepted to chipmixer....all that board scammer extortionist drama you dont wanna know about hey?

Then after lauda makes such racist threats against the Turkish community that they have no grounds to be upset on racial grounds.

Lol that is one of the most racist threats I have heard here.

Wake up darkstar before you bring chipmixer into disrepute.
You can't keep hiring from the tiny close knit bunch of scammer supporting scum hoping nobody would notice.

You need to ensure you are not sponsoring any scammer supporters that abuse trust.

Chipmixer should have told you they dont want " drama" you are steering them directly toward it.

They claim you did it because of that, therefore it started because of that. Good clarification. You should be on point about these matters, but assuming you don't employ neg. rated or controversial members who shitpost only when paid (Kalemdar and Vispilio being prime examples) then you will be fine without knowing anything.

False. I've generally stopped following forum drama and was not aware of the "affair" until now.

First of all, I originally tried to help you with the topic you quoted above, thinking that your intention might be good. But after reading here, I saw that his intention was entirely a "sneaky" approach. And it is not ethical to take the sections you want from the posts there and publish them here!

As for the main issue, as I mentioned there, I find these discussions unnecessary. However, I have stated that I do not think that "what you are saying" is just a coincidence. In other words, I do not welcome you to come up to the Turkish board and say the same things to everyone there and eventually buy a thesis here, with what you bought piece by piece.

I think that you have made unnecessary conversations about childish issues with many people mentioned in that topic.

I have never been involved in such issues until now. I don't want to be involved anymore! However, for the future and goodness of the forum, I think that the people who manage the forum should logically and reasonably end this topic. Especially in the aforementioned topic, it is mentioned that a person has official discourses against the Turks. I have not witnessed personally, but if there is such a thing, I have difficulty understanding why managers do not interfere with it.

That piece of shit even says I am not Turkish like It has to do something with anything. I wonder who gives  him the right to decide my national identity.

There are so many flaws with his logic.

Says the person that is connected to the merit abuse and fake trust circle gang? Your opinions should be kept for yourself and your propaganda views to be shared with those that you aimed to get on to DT1 with.

You would be mistaken. This started silently when I took over the Bitmixer campaign. Only with the listed even did it become publicly significant.

The offer was the fairest offer ever towards the gang of Turkish baboons that you collude with. Had your intentions truly been honest as you claim, then you would have trivially just gone along with it. However, you tried to fool me but that got busted precisely with the PM. To be so abusive that I can only offer a 'consider understanding' says enough about your abuse. Published from my side for correctness sake:

Waiting on this guy to leave you a neutral rating. 

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I made a similar offer to another person who approached me this way. Coincidentally, their 'honest intentions' do not include blacklisting themselves from DT1 either.

Hi, dear @Amishmanish,

I really don't understand why everything is so exaggerated. I made explanations many times. Here and there:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53730500
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54435029

I found some judgments of Tecshare correct. I read their positive approach. He stood against the members who imposed collective punishment. I removed it from my list 10 days later. (Because @Foxup told me some things). Just like you added lauda to your list. You said that you participated in some of Lauda's signature campaigns. This is not enough reason to add to the trust list for me. But I respect you. Nobody has the right to question trust decisions.


I am trying to get to know global members. It is natural to add or remove someone from the list.

Anyway, this happened last year. This thing that happened months ago was brought to the agenda. Only I was targeted. Why is that? Of course for the money. I was accepted into the CM campaign. Black propaganda was launched about me.

I politely asked Lauda with pm. Why did you give negative? The answer he gave me:


They are unfair. Drama is played. So I had to share pm. All their purpose is money. I dont care. I was removed, but I did not object. I respected and said I would be a better poster. I want the benefit of the community. What they're playing here is power war. They want more dt power. When a good poster develops, they hit him in the head. Not just me. examine the other negatives given. I understand the purpose of all this drama. They use power for evil. They use their DT power for threats and blackmail.

I will not be a part of all these dirty games.

Stay with goodness...

Don't worry, this list was prepared in June 2019. In the first stage, 26 Turkish members were taken distrust without a reason. For exactly 1 year, many of the default trust members systematically attack Turkish members and manipulate the default trust system by making up fake stories (and now, almost all Turkish members got distrust). Some of the attacks on Turkish members are racist attacks, others attacks came from users who want to manipulate the default trust system and want to participate in high-paying signature campaigns. The real problem here is not that we are Turkish, but the real problem is the untrustworthy default trust members who try to manipulate the default trust system and strengthen their authority. DT gang gave distrust and negative trust to Turkish users that are much more trustworthy than DT f-r-a-u-d-s-t-e-r-s. The untrustworthy default trust members who do not have a single trade in this forum and all they do is to participate in high-paying signature campaigns do not have the right to tell us who we must trust.

please use different translate program. for example: yandex translate.

I don't think anyone is distrusting users just for being Turkish. That would be a very long distrust list.

Fortunately, DS announced on the campaign main topic that tomorrow he will decide who are the new participants. I hope that after tomorrow all this drama will end and all the Turks will return to their bussines.

This whole drama created by a few Turkish members seems to be affecting the Local board overwhelmingly. Most Turkish users are interacting in Local and there view about Global is being manipulated by those caught in scamming activities. They are sowing general discord amongst the community with stupid conspiracy theories. I have been trying to talk with the people over at Turkish local. Here is a step-wise evolution of the matter.

1. REMOVAL OF KALEMDER
The whole thing started because Kalemder was removed from the ChipMixer campaign after he was found to have some "Mutual trust inclusion/ exclusion" affair with TECHSHARE. He says that he did it because he trusted TECHSHARE as he was speaking out against racism.
As apparent here, I asked him and quite a few people who understand Turkish themselves would say that "it does not seem a coincidence"

2. NEGGING OF VISIPILIO
The most important player in this whole saga is Visipilio who got negged by Jollygood and removed from DT1. He seems to have an intense desire to wield influence over the Turkish Local. He has been spited since he got removed from DT-1 after Jollygood questioned his moral/ ethical stand to support Yobit despite there scamming ways. He believes that he was right there. I think he should have just settled this issue with Jollygood as nobody elese left him a trust rating based on that.

But he being the megalomaniac that he is, he went on to start a "awareness campaign" against ChipMixer and DarkStar not selecting him. His underlying premises is that everyone's primary goal in this forum now is to get hold of some "lucrative bounties and signature campaign". His theory says that DT-1 is manipulating the campaign so only there friends can get into CM. The plenty of evidence in the form of recent local members from Indonesian and Filipino boards don't make a difference to him because in his mind, he is a great poster and DT-1 is afraid of him. See him "educating" me here:

I don't know who are these users who "privately congratulated" him for winning the "Yobit debate". Thanks for feeding his ego. I will repeat again that he could easily have gotten himself out of that whole Yobit thing. Yet, his over-confidence and egoistical tendencies led him to dig a deeper grave as he started rallying against businesses here.

3. SCAM PROMOTERS AND PRESENT CONCERN OF TURKISH MEMBERS]
The less said about others like the unhinged wolwoo, the better. He is an old Turkish members who peddles shitcoins and Ponzi schemes there. The people in Turkish section are concerned and aware that lot of scams are going on there and they want to control them too.

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There is justified concern there because people are being added to distrust lists after they added Visipilio or Wolwoo to their trust lists. The good turkish members seem to be caught between a rock and a hard place. On one side, there is these "wannabe representatives" who are spreading poison by asking them to rally "against the forum" and DT-1. People like Visipilio are like eloquent politicians who try to misguide people by creating false image of a "common enemy". In this case, DT-1 and Lauda. Lauda posted a comment with the phrase "Turkish Baboons" (which they shouldn't have) and this eloquent politician is milking it to the hilt. For Turkish users who use google translate, even a mention of these words is sufficient to think that this is against their pride or something. Most don't dig deep and see real motives as they implicitly trust the "older" members like Visipilio and wolwoo.

Particularly dangerous are some of these "older" members who after being caught, are actually trying to hide their wrongdoings behind Turkish identity. I think the post above by @gospodin sums up the condition well.

4. CHANGING TRACKS FROM NATIONAL IDENTITY TO CONSPIRACY THEORIES
Visipilio has been quick enough to realize that his "national identity" ruse is not working. He has quickly changed tracks to make it about DT-1 conspiracy now. He thinks he has found a useful ally in the form of bonesjonesreturns. Here is my deleted post from his self-moderated thread:
You want to portray "bonesjonesreturns", the earlier TOAA or cryptohunter troll as some sort of insightful user tells me your level of understanding. Despite, your very good english, you are a pretty bad apple, aren't you? You now want to make this about Blockstream conspiracy. Congratulations, you have passed all levels of being cuckoo.

You are not only envious and jealous but also untrustworthy. What happens in bitcoin is not guided simply by this forum. There is plenty of media out there. BTC has a 1 MB limit to ensure that it survives in the worst of cases. The way "actual money" should. If you are reading the blog from Faketoshi and are convinced by the likes of BSV and BCH, then that is again your problem my friend. You are welcome to put your money where your mouth is and stop worrying about BTC.

Blockstream is just one of the many companies that support bitcoin developers.A lot of the developers are still independent, including Greg Maxwell.
Also, I have replied to that idiot in the thread. Stop trying to misguide the Turkish community. You are trying to harm the forum as well as the BTC ecosystem just to get even for your trust rating?? Stop this madness.