FAQ: All About Unconfirmed 0 Confirmation Transaction Fee (READ before posting!) - page 3.

David Rabahy

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Quote from: windylouw on June 08, 2016, 09:51:25 PM

I am using blockchain legacy wallet.
Do the wallet allows to redo transaction with fee?
I am actually put a fee for the transaction but i dont know when i send the connection is quite slow. Maybe my internet connection is bad. And suddenly i saw the fee is zero.

And 1 question. Will be bitcoin loss??

Hmm, you should convert away from the legacy wallet. Even the old wallet used a default of 0.0001BTC for the fee but this was manually overridden (don't do that). I don't see an obvious way in the legacy wallet to redo the transaction to add a fee; we need to research that. Worst case we might be able to load the private key into another wallet that does offer that feature.

After you convert, Blockchain says https://blog.blockchain.com/2016/03/16/introducing-dynamic-fees/ so it will calculate an appropriate fee depending on the current traffic. The speed/quality of your internet connection is not the problem.

No. Even without redoing the transaction to add a fee, odds are eventually the transaction will be included in a block so, no, the bitcoins will not be loss.

windylouw

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Hello Sir.
I am using blockchain legacy wallet.
Do the wallet allows to redo transaction with fee?
I am actually put a fee for the transaction but i dont know when i send the connection is quite slow. Maybe my internet connection is bad. And suddenly i saw the fee is zero.
Any idea to help me?
Sir. You said the trick is forward to the miner. How to do that?
Thank

And 1 question. Will be bitcoin loss??

Quote from: David Rabahy on June 08, 2016, 09:01:16 PM

Quote from: windylouw on June 08, 2016, 07:10:26 PM

hello,
anyone can help me?
i am confused now.
6/6/2016 i made transaction using blockchain and the transaction is unconfirmed for 2 days.
yesterday i saw the amount back to my wallet and suddenly it appears again in my blockchain transaction.
is there any way to cancel it stop broadcasting after rejection?
or how long i have to wait the bitcoin back to my wallet?
the hash transaction is fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9
for the worst case, will the bitcoin loss?
because i am really confused now.
anyone can help me will have a reward given.. =)
cheers

Hmm, https://blockchain.info/tx/fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9 indicates the transaction was received less than 2 days ago but perhaps it started before that elsewhere in the network. The whole trick is to get it forwarded to miners. Many (most?) nodes will refuse to accept transactions without fees.

If you had included an appropriate fee (instead of zero) then it would have gone through quickly. https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ provides guidance; it is currently indicating a delay of 840-infinite minutes for transactions with no fee.

Which wallet are you using? Many (most?) wallets these days have a feature to redo the transaction with a fee.

David Rabahy

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Quote from: windylouw on June 08, 2016, 07:10:26 PM

hello,
anyone can help me?
i am confused now.
6/6/2016 i made transaction using blockchain and the transaction is unconfirmed for 2 days.
yesterday i saw the amount back to my wallet and suddenly it appears again in my blockchain transaction.
is there any way to cancel it stop broadcasting after rejection?
or how long i have to wait the bitcoin back to my wallet?
the hash transaction is fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9
for the worst case, will the bitcoin loss?
because i am really confused now.
anyone can help me will have a reward given.. =)
cheers

Hmm, https://blockchain.info/tx/fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9 indicates the transaction was received less than 2 days ago but perhaps it started before that elsewhere in the network. The whole trick is to get it forwarded to miners. Many (most?) nodes will refuse to accept transactions without fees.

If you had included an appropriate fee (instead of zero) then it would have gone through quickly. https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ provides guidance; it is currently indicating a delay of 840-infinite minutes for transactions with no fee.

Which wallet are you using? Many (most?) wallets these days have a feature to redo the transaction with a fee.

windylouw

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hello,
anyone can help me?
i am confused now.
6/6/2016 i made transaction using blockchain and the transaction is unconfirmed for 2 days.
yesterday i saw the amount back to my wallet and suddenly it appears again in my blockchain transaction.
is there any way to cancel it stop broadcasting after rejection?
or how long i have to wait the bitcoin back to my wallet?
the hash transaction is fe09397d068f68fc3656d345e8e6621a3b7a1e301e50dd7884a84e42128ca6d9
for the worst case, will the bitcoin loss?
because i am really confused now.
anyone can help me will have a reward given.. =)
cheers

Kalamath

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Great! Thanks alot!

I got almost all my money back!

(I sent 1.36 but only got 1.26 back, and I dont know why. I only did the abandontransaction command thought, not resend)

Thanks again!

shorena

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Quote from: Kalamath on May 15, 2016, 08:52:50 AM

It has now been over 5 days since I accidentally sent bitcoins with a too small fee from my old wallet to my new wallet, and it has not been received.

From: My bitcoin-qt.exe, version v0.8.3-beta. At 2016-05-10 11:06.

To: My new Electrum wallet version 2.6.4.

Transaktions-ID: 487823c8ab2d791828241409d004f56cecc8523e84cc87caeaddb0431aa4b5d8

Please advice me to how I can either cancel the send or to make it go through?

Thanks,
Fredrik

(Local time is now 2016-05-15 15:50)

#1 update bitcoin core[1]
#2 go to the console[2] and enter abandontransaction 487823c8ab2d791828241409d004f56cecc8523e84cc87caeaddb0431aa4b5d8
#3 resend

[1] https://bitcoin.org/en/download
[2] Help -> Debug Window -> Console

Kalamath

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It has now been over 5 days since I accidentally sent bitcoins with a too small fee from my old wallet to my new wallet, and it has not been received.

From: My bitcoin-qt.exe, version v0.8.3-beta. At 2016-05-10 11:06.

To: My new Electrum wallet version 2.6.4.

Transaktions-ID: 487823c8ab2d791828241409d004f56cecc8523e84cc87caeaddb0431aa4b5d8

Please advice me to how I can either cancel the send or to make it go through?

Thanks,
Fredrik

(Local time is now 2016-05-15 15:50)

cardseller121

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sometime they take really long to get confirmed

shorena

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No I dont escrow anymore.

Quote from: mynameisdon on March 20, 2016, 09:59:27 PM

Quote from: HeroC on August 14, 2013, 08:33:08 AM

Does it require more fees when more transactions are behind it? I used to use faucets a lot, and I just sent a transaction, and it has a bunch of faucet transactions. That makes the transaction bigger, which requires more fees, right?

yes bigger transaction required bigger fees.so that transaction can made faster as soon as possible.
and if you don't spend anything any fees sended btc will reverse to sender wallet automatically. Grin

No, this depends on the wallet the sender uses.

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Quote from: HeroC on August 14, 2013, 08:33:08 AM

Does it require more fees when more transactions are behind it? I used to use faucets a lot, and I just sent a transaction, and it has a bunch of faucet transactions. That makes the transaction bigger, which requires more fees, right?

yes bigger transaction required bigger fees.so that transaction can made faster as soon as possible.
and if you don't spend anything any fees sended btc will reverse to sender wallet automatically. Grin

shorena

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No I dont escrow anymore.

Quote from: jkminkov on March 16, 2016, 08:51:05 AM

Quote from: Moloch on February 28, 2016, 01:55:04 PM

Quote from: jkminkov on February 28, 2016, 05:52:20 AM

it was working well until you put that - 66: Mempool Min Fee Not Met

Hmm, yeah... the thing about that...

If there are too many pending transactions, you get that error when your transaction does not make the cut...

Basically, there are 18,000 people in line who are willing to pay a higher fee than you

I set the mempool to 500MB (default is 300MB), but there are currently over 18,000 unconfirmed transactions... cumulative fees for unconfirmed transactions are up to 1,282.62774345 BTC! (an average of 0.071 BTC fee per transaction?!?)

https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

my node behaves strange, after mem usage on mempool gets close to 300Mb suddenly all inputs get lowest priority enforcing higher than usual fees, all gets back to normal with restarting daemon every 2 days

AFAIK thats normal with 0.12 (core, not sure about classic) as 300 MB is the default limit where the node will drop TX from memory and raise the minrelayfee. This would also affect its feeestimate.

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Quote from: Moloch on February 28, 2016, 01:55:04 PM

Quote from: jkminkov on February 28, 2016, 05:52:20 AM

it was working well until you put that - 66: Mempool Min Fee Not Met

Hmm, yeah... the thing about that...

If there are too many pending transactions, you get that error when your transaction does not make the cut...

Basically, there are 18,000 people in line who are willing to pay a higher fee than you

I set the mempool to 500MB (default is 300MB), but there are currently over 18,000 unconfirmed transactions... cumulative fees for unconfirmed transactions are up to 1,282.62774345 BTC! (an average of 0.071 BTC fee per transaction?!?)

https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

my node behaves strange, after mem usage on mempool gets close to 300Mb suddenly all inputs get lowest priority enforcing higher than usual fees, all gets back to normal with restarting daemon every 2 days

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Quote from: Stefandup on March 14, 2016, 10:18:58 AM

Quote from: shorena on March 13, 2016, 11:51:17 AM

Quote from: Stefandup on March 13, 2016, 08:19:57 AM

HI Guys

I made a couple of cash outs more than a week ago and still see nothing in my wallet. Can you please assist.

Stefan

#1 which wallet/service?
#2 from where to where di you send?
#3 tx id?

Hi

I'm using Blockchain "MY Wallet"
I transferred bitcoins from BITFactory to My Wallet
My Wallet address is 1FKez51GxTVNtSBdBG9bsKaynCfP6EyEW2

Stefan

Since you are talking about BITFactory and assuming you are talking about blockchain.INFO (vs some other blockchain service or the blockchain), you should talk to BITFactory technical support. If you tried to withdraw from them, did they give you a transaction ID?

You also might try asking in the correct thread.

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Quote from: shorena on March 13, 2016, 11:51:17 AM

Quote from: Stefandup on March 13, 2016, 08:19:57 AM

HI Guys

I made a couple of cash outs more than a week ago and still see nothing in my wallet. Can you please assist.

Stefan

#1 which wallet/service?
#2 from where to where di you send?
#3 tx id?

Hi

I'm using Blockchain "MY Wallet"
I transferred bitcoins from BITFactory to My Wallet
My Wallet address is 1FKez51GxTVNtSBdBG9bsKaynCfP6EyEW2

Stefan

shorena

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Quote from: Stefandup on March 13, 2016, 08:19:57 AM

HI Guys

I made a couple of cash outs more than a week ago and still see nothing in my wallet. Can you please assist.

Stefan

#1 which wallet/service?
#2 from where to where di you send?
#3 tx id?

Stefandup

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HI Guys

I made a couple of cash outs more than a week ago and still see nothing in my wallet. Can you please assist.

Stefan

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Quote from: jkminkov on February 28, 2016, 05:52:20 AM

it was working well until you put that - 66: Mempool Min Fee Not Met

Hmm, yeah... the thing about that...

If there are too many pending transactions, you get that error when your transaction does not make the cut...

Basically, there are 18,000 people in line who are willing to pay a higher fee than you

I set the mempool to 500MB (default is 300MB), but there are currently over 18,000 unconfirmed transactions... cumulative fees for unconfirmed transactions are up to 1,282.62774345 BTC! (an average of 0.071 BTC fee per transaction?!?)

https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

jkminkov

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it was working well until you put that - 66: Mempool Min Fee Not Met

Moloch

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I set up a simple form to (re)broadcast bitcoin transactions using either the txid, or raw transaction

I heard this might help, but I make no guarantees

http://services.moloch.net/broadcast

shorena

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No I dont escrow anymore.

Quote from: kellydiryl on February 04, 2016, 02:21:40 AM

I have a sending transaction in bitcoins2x.com, I wonder why I don't receive The 3days. These is my transaction. It appear on my coins..pH that it send

Reference ID
e9a4c922
Sent 0.00348075 BTC
to 1Mo4ACwYaHP8XL5VAfGDJU8pmiabSs898Y
Status
Complete
Sent at
01/31/2016 10:12 pm
Reference ID
e9a4c922

I have new here.by the way my wallet became zero bal.after I spend everything to send this amt.
Hope I could find answer
Thankyou
-snip-

Its long confirmed[1], contact "support" if the ponzi you send coins to has something like that, if not consider it a lesson for the future.

[1] https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/e461c31dde75bfb35511d8cc9aca42908cc95522205e0ee2ade359a7e95da34f

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