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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 17, 2022, 01:17:35 PM

Quote from: Daniel91 on September 17, 2022, 12:59:02 PM

FIFA has just published its decision on this case on its official website:
https://www.fifa.com/legal/media-releases/fifa-appeal-committee-passes-decision-on-eligibility-of-player-byron-david

FIFA might have made their decision. But the Chileans are saying that they are done with FIFA and will now file an appeal with the CAS. It is getting really tiring now. Why can't these guys just accept the ruling and keep quiet? Less than two months to go for the kickoff and these losers are trying to disrupt the tournament. And since the FIFA appeals committee has found out that the appeal doesn't have any substance, I would recommend that Chile be deducted a few points for the next qualification cycle.

Surely this is the worst thing doing by Chileans because now time is running out, and they need to accept this decision for the sack of sports but as we know Latin America is also having many conflicts which are not easy to allow other country for having prestigious to play into this world cup as soccer is surely matter of life and death in this region with few years back we have a soccer player from Columbia just shot dead for putting ball into his own net during world cup match.

With this mentality we can understand Chileans are surely frustrated and trying their best for having any chance to be in this event which is now nothing for them even they are going into CAS with less than two months remaining and Ecuador is also settled to have their opening game against host nation. I agree, surely they deserve this punishment and having deduction in points could be good lesson for them and many others.

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You have a good list of candidates for the title but somehow I don't think Portugal will be able to go that far in the future, I personally see that England might just suffer the same fate as last Euro 2020 which was only runner up or maybe even lower later , for the Qatar world cup, I believe more that the young Spanish squad will be able to talk a lot later because so far the performance of Spain which is filled with the majority of young players looks quite potential, while for the championship of course Brazil and Germany are my choices to enter the final.

My prediction:
1st place: Brazil / Germany
2nd place: England or Spain
3rd place: France

Thank you. Your list looks good too. Somehow I didn’t think about the brazilian team. It’s true, they have a good chance of winning, too. The german team is not bad, but I have a feeling they won't make it this year. Sometimes they just don’t have the determination to do it. I would be happy if germany wins, but I still don’t believe in it.

As we are getting close to this mega event now things are going more heated and talk is going more positive about favorite and winners for this event right now we are having no updates who are coming in this event as injuries are going to have their own impact on teams and players but still many teams are well-prepared, so I am feeling most chances this time World Cup is going to South America because they are really desperate and want to fight back as they are out of this competition for two decades which is enough time Brazil and Argentina both are bringing quality players which are having enough skills to give tough challenge.

But, mostly European teams are having some troubles hopefully things could be better, and we will have quality game in Qatar where all stage is going to set for this event and FIFA is also doing their best with Qatar sports authorities for success of this World Cup.

For me most chances Brazil, Germany, France and Argentina could be in last four for this event.

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I can't remember a tournament being discredited as often and so much than this winter's World Cup. The other World Cups were organized without really big media coverage. There are, of course, all kinds of things going on with the conditions of the people in the country. But FIFA also knew that when they awarded the World Cup to Qatar. I don't think players see much of this problem back in the country. Also for their own safety it seems to me better if they stay at the hotel and complex for their own safety and mental peace. The Nations League matches start next week. We will see which teams are well attuned to each other as the last matches before the World Cup starts.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on September 17, 2022, 12:59:02 PM

FIFA has just published its decision on this case on its official website:
https://www.fifa.com/legal/media-releases/fifa-appeal-committee-passes-decision-on-eligibility-of-player-byron-david

FIFA might have made their decision. But the Chileans are saying that they are done with FIFA and will now file an appeal with the CAS. It is getting really tiring now. Why can't these guys just accept the ruling and keep quiet? Less than two months to go for the kickoff and these losers are trying to disrupt the tournament. And since the FIFA appeals committee has found out that the appeal doesn't have any substance, I would recommend that Chile be deducted a few points for the next qualification cycle.

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Quote from: tarable on September 16, 2022, 03:19:49 PM

FIFA has rejected Chile's request to ban their South American opponents Ecuador from the World Cup, despite Chile's appeal, FIFA allowed Ecuador to participate in the Qatar World Cup and FIFA has confirmed Ecuador's presence at the tournament.

With evidence showing Byron Castillo was born in Colombia, Chile argued that Castillo was not eligible to play for Ecuador and called for action that would allow Chile to take Ecuador's place in the competition. The FIFA Appeals Committee, however, has ended the legal action brought against the Ecuadorian Football Federation (FEF).

Hehehe, as I said some hours before the announcement by FIFA.
It's so close to the world cup, Chile will continue to try, but at this point, we can conclude Ecuador will participate, the first match of World Cup will continue to be Qatar vs Ecuador.
Unfortunately all this problems will end at first stage, I think Netherlands and Senegal will classify to next rounds.

Just to end this post, read this:

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In the 2018 World Cup qualifying group, Bolivia forfeited two games in which it fielded an ineligible player as a late substitute. FIFA got complaints from Chile and Peru about Bolivia defender Nelson Cabrera, who was born in Paraguay and had previously played for Paraguay.

Bolivia lost an appeal at the Court of Arbitration for Sport, which said FIFA was right to investigate even when protests were filed weeks after the games were played.

That case ultimately harmed Chile. Three extra points awarded to Peru lifted it above Chile and into an intercontinental playoff that it won to advance to the 2018 tournament in Russia.

FIFA then wrote stricter rules for the 2022 World Cup requiring all players in qualifying games to produce a “valid permanent international passport” for inspection by match officials.

Source: https://torontosun.com/sports/soccer/chile-loses-fifa-appeal-in-world-cup-case-with-ecuador

Something similar, but they are dealing in a different way.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 16, 2022, 10:18:36 PM

Hopefully now this scandal will be put to an end. I was sad to see the Peru football association siding with Chile and joining the appeal process. Appeals committee has decided in favor of Ecuador. Chile and Peru should have backed out by now, but they have decided to take this to the next stage. Chilean officials are saying that they will take this matter to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS). I am not sure about this. Can the CAS force FIFA to suspend Ecuador? If that is the case, then how can we say that FIFA is an autonomous body?

It is an embarrassing fact, not the claim that certainly has its foundation, but the fact of wanting to remove Ecuador from the World Cup in Qatar, and until now the other teams have had the decorum to leave the matter to those who are responsible, and the sanctions should be incurred at administrative levels, including individual ones, but Chile's premise of asking for Ecuador's position, due to that incident, really embarrassing!, that is, could have had the pertinent claim and wait for the decision, which by the way favors Ecuador.

I don't know if this topic is trend in other regions, but in these parts the news has taken on tones to mocking, many are expressed in Memes, such as Chile being the eliminated for the third time, for which such a thing is a record world or best guinnes:
https://media.tycsports.com/files/2022/09/16/479845/memes-chile_862x485.webp

Important: I do not join the mockery for the Chilean team, I think they had their right to claim, but they forgot or was a lack of bureaucracy in putting the request to remove Ecuador, on the other hand it reflects how fans take things nowadays and the serious media, because tycsports is not only a web medium but also a television medium that even includes radio stations.

FIFA has just published its decision on this case on its official website:
https://www.fifa.com/legal/media-releases/fifa-appeal-committee-passes-decision-on-eligibility-of-player-byron-david

As far as I understand, the Court of Arbitration for Sport is an independent body and has the power to overrule FIFA's decisions, and this has been confirmed by FIFA in its statement. I think it is not a bad idea to have such an independent body that can control the work of FIFA and correct their wrong decisions.
We know what the situation was before in FIFA when Blatter was president and suspected of corruption. Small nations have very little influence on FIFA's decisions and therefore it is good that they have the opportunity to challenge FIFA's decisions with the competent authority.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 16, 2022, 10:18:36 PM

Hopefully now this scandal will be put to an end. I was sad to see the Peru football association siding with Chile and joining the appeal process. Appeals committee has decided in favor of Ecuador. Chile and Peru should have backed out by now, but they have decided to take this to the next stage. Chilean officials are saying that they will take this matter to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS). I am not sure about this. Can the CAS force FIFA to suspend Ecuador? If that is the case, then how can we say that FIFA is an autonomous body?

It is an embarrassing fact, not the claim that certainly has its foundation, but the fact of wanting to remove Ecuador from the World Cup in Qatar, and until now the other teams have had the decorum to leave the matter to those who are responsible, and the sanctions should be incurred at administrative levels, including individual ones, but Chile's premise of asking for Ecuador's position, due to that incident, really embarrassing!, that is, could have had the pertinent claim and wait for the decision, which by the way favors Ecuador.

I don't know if this topic is trend in other regions, but in these parts the news has taken on tones to mocking, many are expressed in Memes, such as Chile being the eliminated for the third time, for which such a thing is a record world or best guinnes:
https://media.tycsports.com/files/2022/09/16/479845/memes-chile_862x485.webp

Important: I do not join the mockery for the Chilean team, I think they had their right to claim, but they forgot or was a lack of bureaucracy in putting the request to remove Ecuador, on the other hand it reflects how fans take things nowadays and the serious media, because tycsports is not only a web medium but also a television medium that even includes radio stations.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on September 17, 2022, 10:27:13 AM

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1st winner
2nd winner and
3rd Winner.

Say your mind.

1st: England
2nd: Germany
3rd: Portugal

This is my list for the FIFA World Cup 2022. Germany plays well in my opinion, but they are missing something. That’s why I don’t think they’re going to win. My gut tells me england will win this year.

You have a good list of candidates for the title but somehow I don't think Portugal will be able to go that far in the future, I personally see that England might just suffer the same fate as last Euro 2020 which was only runner up or maybe even lower later , for the Qatar world cup, I believe more that the young Spanish squad will be able to talk a lot later because so far the performance of Spain which is filled with the majority of young players looks quite potential, while for the championship of course Brazil and Germany are my choices to enter the final.

My prediction:
1st place: Brazil / Germany
2nd place: England or Spain
3rd place: France

My prediction is:
1st place: Spain/Germany
2nd place: France
3rd place: Brazil
Although Portugal as speculated will go far, I don't think they have as much quality as the Spanish, Brazilian or French sides. So many young players in current major leagues around the world come from these region and play fantastic football at the moment. Unless injuries or cases such as is the case of Ecuador right now, it would be tough to win sides packed with these stars.

Along with probably England and Argentina, these are probably the strongest teams of the world championship.
However, I still think that the main favorites for the world champion title are Brazil and France.
Experience teaches us that at every world championship there were a lot of surprises and unexpected results, so I am sure that we will see a lot of such unexpected results at this world championship as well.
Just remember Croatia 4 years ago, or South Korea in 2002 Grin

I see a very good chance of a team, the team is Argentina, there are many good players in the team this time. Basically, the youngsters of the team have played well in the previous matches. Maybe this is Messi's last World Cup, so everyone in the team will at least want Messi to win the World Cup. Now we just have to wait and see what happens.

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Quote from: Agbe on April 02, 2022, 10:59:13 AM

1st winner
2nd winner and
3rd Winner.

Say your mind.

1st: England
2nd: Germany
3rd: Portugal

This is my list for the FIFA World Cup 2022. Germany plays well in my opinion, but they are missing something. That’s why I don’t think they’re going to win. My gut tells me england will win this year.

You have a good list of candidates for the title but somehow I don't think Portugal will be able to go that far in the future, I personally see that England might just suffer the same fate as last Euro 2020 which was only runner up or maybe even lower later , for the Qatar world cup, I believe more that the young Spanish squad will be able to talk a lot later because so far the performance of Spain which is filled with the majority of young players looks quite potential, while for the championship of course Brazil and Germany are my choices to enter the final.

My prediction:
1st place: Brazil / Germany
2nd place: England or Spain
3rd place: France

My prediction is:
1st place: Spain/Germany
2nd place: France
3rd place: Brazil
Although Portugal as speculated will go far, I don't think they have as much quality as the Spanish, Brazilian or French sides. So many young players in current major leagues around the world come from these region and play fantastic football at the moment. Unless injuries or cases such as is the case of Ecuador right now, it would be tough to win sides packed with these stars.

Along with probably England and Argentina, these are probably the strongest teams of the world championship.
However, I still think that the main favorites for the world champion title are Brazil and France.
Experience teaches us that at every world championship there were a lot of surprises and unexpected results, so I am sure that we will see a lot of such unexpected results at this world championship as well.
Just remember Croatia 4 years ago, or South Korea in 2002 Grin

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Quote from: poldanmig on September 17, 2022, 07:53:43 AM

You have a good list of candidates for the title but somehow I don't think Portugal will be able to go that far in the future, I personally see that England might just suffer the same fate as last Euro 2020 which was only runner up or maybe even lower later , for the Qatar world cup, I believe more that the young Spanish squad will be able to talk a lot later because so far the performance of Spain which is filled with the majority of young players looks quite potential, while for the championship of course Brazil and Germany are my choices to enter the final.

My prediction:
1st place: Brazil / Germany
2nd place: England or Spain
3rd place: France

Thank you. Your list looks good too. Somehow I didn’t think about the brazilian team. It’s true, they have a good chance of winning, too. The german team is not bad, but I have a feeling they won't make it this year. Sometimes they just don’t have the determination to do it. I would be happy if germany wins, but I still don’t believe in it.

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Quote from: poldanmig on September 17, 2022, 07:53:43 AM

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Quote from: Agbe on April 02, 2022, 10:59:13 AM

1st winner
2nd winner and
3rd Winner.

Say your mind.

1st: England
2nd: Germany
3rd: Portugal

This is my list for the FIFA World Cup 2022. Germany plays well in my opinion, but they are missing something. That’s why I don’t think they’re going to win. My gut tells me england will win this year.

You have a good list of candidates for the title but somehow I don't think Portugal will be able to go that far in the future, I personally see that England might just suffer the same fate as last Euro 2020 which was only runner up or maybe even lower later , for the Qatar world cup, I believe more that the young Spanish squad will be able to talk a lot later because so far the performance of Spain which is filled with the majority of young players looks quite potential, while for the championship of course Brazil and Germany are my choices to enter the final.

My prediction:
1st place: Brazil / Germany
2nd place: England or Spain
3rd place: France

My prediction is:
1st place: Spain/Germany
2nd place: France
3rd place: Brazil
Although Portugal as speculated will go far, I don't think they have as much quality as the Spanish, Brazilian or French sides. So many young players in current major leagues around the world come from these region and play fantastic football at the moment. Unless injuries or cases such as is the case of Ecuador right now, it would be tough to win sides packed with these stars.

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Quote from: CoinEraser on September 17, 2022, 07:31:01 AM

Quote from: Agbe on April 02, 2022, 10:59:13 AM

1st winner
2nd winner and
3rd Winner.

Say your mind.

1st: England
2nd: Germany
3rd: Portugal

This is my list for the FIFA World Cup 2022. Germany plays well in my opinion, but they are missing something. That’s why I don’t think they’re going to win. My gut tells me england will win this year.

The expectation over the team keeps varying with time. For now it is Germany to win. Other than Germany Brazil is in the order next to Germany. Portugal is expected to play good, but the dependence over individual player won't succeed all the time. England have got fair chance, but it had won in the 1966 world cup and it is the only title. Compared to those days, now the teams have got great improvement which makes every match more competing.

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Quote from: CoinEraser on September 17, 2022, 07:31:01 AM

Quote from: Agbe on April 02, 2022, 10:59:13 AM

1st winner
2nd winner and
3rd Winner.

Say your mind.

1st: England
2nd: Germany
3rd: Portugal

This is my list for the FIFA World Cup 2022. Germany plays well in my opinion, but they are missing something. That’s why I don’t think they’re going to win. My gut tells me england will win this year.

You have a good list of candidates for the title but somehow I don't think Portugal will be able to go that far in the future, I personally see that England might just suffer the same fate as last Euro 2020 which was only runner up or maybe even lower later , for the Qatar world cup, I believe more that the young Spanish squad will be able to talk a lot later because so far the performance of Spain which is filled with the majority of young players looks quite potential, while for the championship of course Brazil and Germany are my choices to enter the final.

My prediction:
1st place: Brazil / Germany
2nd place: England or Spain
3rd place: France

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Quote from: Agbe on April 02, 2022, 10:59:13 AM

1st winner
2nd winner and
3rd Winner.

Say your mind.

1st: England
2nd: Germany
3rd: Portugal

This is my list for the FIFA World Cup 2022. Germany plays well in my opinion, but they are missing something. That’s why I don’t think they’re going to win. My gut tells me england will win this year.

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Quote from: tarable on September 16, 2022, 03:19:49 PM

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FIFA has rejected Chile's request to ban their South American opponents Ecuador from the World Cup, despite Chile's appeal, FIFA allowed Ecuador to participate in the Qatar World Cup and FIFA has confirmed Ecuador's presence at the tournament.

With evidence showing Byron Castillo was born in Colombia, Chile argued that Castillo was not eligible to play for Ecuador and called for action that would allow Chile to take Ecuador's place in the competition. The FIFA Appeals Committee, however, has ended the legal action brought against the Ecuadorian Football Federation (FEF).

It looks like this saga will continue still....

Quote from: https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/chile-loses-fifa-appeal-world-cup-case-ecuador-90015381

The Chilean soccer federation will appeal against FIFA’s verdict to CAS in Lausanne, Switzerland. Sport’s highest court can organize an urgent hearing and ruling in the nine weeks left until the World Cup starts.

“It is a sad day for soccer and for fair play. The message is clear — tricks are allowed,” Chilean federation lawyer Eduardo Carlezzo said, adding “there is an enormous amount of documents which prove that the player undoubtedly was born in Colombia.”

This is the last step though. Whatever the next outcome is, that's going to be final.

I guess that FIFA going to do whatever it can to save its face aka Eduardo will be able to join the World Cup. But Chile will make sure it is costly for both FIFA and Eduardo. If another jurisdiction from any international football committee verifies that Chile's claim about Castillo was born in Colombia is true, both FIFA and Eduardo going to lose every credibility they have. Sent a strong message around the world that FIFA is so crocked to allow nations to cheat at the World Cup level.

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Hopefully now this scandal will be put to an end. I was sad to see the Peru football association siding with Chile and joining the appeal process. Appeals committee has decided in favor of Ecuador. Chile and Peru should have backed out by now, but they have decided to take this to the next stage. Chilean officials are saying that they will take this matter to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS). I am not sure about this. Can the CAS force FIFA to suspend Ecuador? If that is the case, then how can we say that FIFA is an autonomous body?

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 16, 2022, 02:51:29 PM

Quote from: rdluffy on September 16, 2022, 10:25:41 AM

To be honest, I think FIFA will punish the player Byron Castillo, he will pay some fines, be out of a lot of matches, but FIFA will keep Ecuador on World Cup.
If Fifa decides to punish Ecuador, Peru and another teams will probably see a chance to fight to the spot and will be more complicated.

The rules are very clear. If FIFA concludes that Byron Castillo is ineligible to play for Ecuador, then they will be disqualified and prohibited from participating in the world cup. And all their qualifying matches will be awarded to the opposing team by a margin of 0-3. But as I mentioned in one of my previous posts, the chances are low. FIFA has already made the decision, and this time it is an appeal by Chile. Chances of the previous ruling getting overturned are not large, given the previous history of similar incidents.

I don't think there will be a problem at the Ecuador. Even if Chile objects, I think nothing will change. Fifa has already openly denied this application. It is now almost guaranteed that they will take part in the tournament. One of the teams I want to have successful matches in the tournament is Ecuador.

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Quote from: tarable on September 16, 2022, 03:19:49 PM

~snip~
FIFA has rejected Chile's request to ban their South American opponents Ecuador from the World Cup, despite Chile's appeal, FIFA allowed Ecuador to participate in the Qatar World Cup and FIFA has confirmed Ecuador's presence at the tournament.

With evidence showing Byron Castillo was born in Colombia, Chile argued that Castillo was not eligible to play for Ecuador and called for action that would allow Chile to take Ecuador's place in the competition. The FIFA Appeals Committee, however, has ended the legal action brought against the Ecuadorian Football Federation (FEF).

It looks like this saga will continue still....

Quote from: https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/chile-loses-fifa-appeal-world-cup-case-ecuador-90015381

The Chilean soccer federation will appeal against FIFA’s verdict to CAS in Lausanne, Switzerland. Sport’s highest court can organize an urgent hearing and ruling in the nine weeks left until the World Cup starts.

“It is a sad day for soccer and for fair play. The message is clear — tricks are allowed,” Chilean federation lawyer Eduardo Carlezzo said, adding “there is an enormous amount of documents which prove that the player undoubtedly was born in Colombia.”

This is the last step though. Whatever the next outcome is, that's going to be final.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 16, 2022, 02:51:29 PM

Quote from: rdluffy on September 16, 2022, 10:25:41 AM

To be honest, I think FIFA will punish the player Byron Castillo, he will pay some fines, be out of a lot of matches, but FIFA will keep Ecuador on World Cup.
If Fifa decides to punish Ecuador, Peru and another teams will probably see a chance to fight to the spot and will be more complicated.

The rules are very clear. If FIFA concludes that Byron Castillo is ineligible to play for Ecuador, then they will be disqualified and prohibited from participating in the world cup. And all their qualifying matches will be awarded to the opposing team by a margin of 0-3. But as I mentioned in one of my previous posts, the chances are low. FIFA has already made the decision, and this time it is an appeal by Chile. Chances of the previous ruling getting overturned are not large, given the previous history of similar incidents.

FIFA has rejected Chile's request to ban their South American opponents Ecuador from the World Cup, despite Chile's appeal, FIFA allowed Ecuador to participate in the Qatar World Cup and FIFA has confirmed Ecuador's presence at the tournament.

With evidence showing Byron Castillo was born in Colombia, Chile argued that Castillo was not eligible to play for Ecuador and called for action that would allow Chile to take Ecuador's place in the competition. The FIFA Appeals Committee, however, has ended the legal action brought against the Ecuadorian Football Federation (FEF).

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Quote from: rdluffy on September 16, 2022, 10:25:41 AM

To be honest, I think FIFA will punish the player Byron Castillo, he will pay some fines, be out of a lot of matches, but FIFA will keep Ecuador on World Cup.
If Fifa decides to punish Ecuador, Peru and another teams will probably see a chance to fight to the spot and will be more complicated.

The rules are very clear. If FIFA concludes that Byron Castillo is ineligible to play for Ecuador, then they will be disqualified and prohibited from participating in the world cup. And all their qualifying matches will be awarded to the opposing team by a margin of 0-3. But as I mentioned in one of my previous posts, the chances are low. FIFA has already made the decision, and this time it is an appeal by Chile. Chances of the previous ruling getting overturned are not large, given the previous history of similar incidents.

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