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September 14, 2022, 06:30:45 AM
These are obviously some publicity stunts that are going to be done by the Qatar authorities. Almost every country does that in my opinion. But I would be really happy if Qatar does not look at it only as a money-making opportunity. I would be happy if Qatar thinks about this as a money-making opportunity and also an opportunity to get recognized in the world because of football. I don't have any high expectations from them in the world cup but I believe that they can do well and learn a lot of things from this world cup. Which is going to be really good for them in the long run if they are actually serious about it.

I don't agree with their thinking. They are assuming that if they splash money and show off their wealth, then everyone will respect them. That is not the case. They would have earned far more respect if they give adequate compensation to the 6,000 or so workers who died during the construction of the world cup stadiums. This tournament is being held over the dead bodies of thousands of poor laborers. And on top of all this, they are also harassing unmarried couples, LGBT individuals and fans who want to have a pint of beer.
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Guys, something big is happening right now and can change the group A, group o QATAR, and the first match of World Cup
Ecuador is facing problems and there are chances to be kicked out of World Cup due to a player Byron Castillo, he's being accused of having fake ID
~snip~
Now Chile will probably make pressure on FIFA to claim the spot, the World Cup will start in only 68 days, Fifa now have to deal with this problem quickly.
I know Ecuador or Chile is not the favorite ones, but they can fight for a classification on group A with Senegal

That is indeed something big.

Based on the new evidence, it seems pretty clear that the player is not a national of Ecuador.

We'll have to wait and see what FIFA says about this, but if the standard procedure of forfeiting the games where the player was present is done, then Chile will end up qualifying in the 4th spot in the South American group.

This is because a 3 - 0 victory is given to the opponent. And if you run the numbers, Chile ends up in that position.

It would be rather incredible to have that sort of change mere weeks before the world cup starts, but who knows... they even changed the starting date recently.

Interesting to note that Chile would be playing that first match against Qatar if FIFA ends up deciding the player was ineligible to play.
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Not only alcoholic drinks are regulated but Qatar is very strict about things like sex too. even the punishment that awaits the perpetrators of free sex is not playing around 7 years in prison.

I don't know who made the decision of hosting the world cup in such regressive societies. In Qatar, males are allowed to marry 4 times and even in case of divorce there is no alimony or maintenance payment. That is not the case in other countries. Some of the people can't afford to get married due to various reasons, and they maintain live-in relationships. And these sort of relations are banned in Qatar and as per the laws any such couples will be jailed for 6-7 years. I hope that FIFA will not allow such a prestigious tournament to be hosted in stone age societies in the future.
Unfortunately in each country there are separate rules that may indeed have to be understood, indeed in the past FIFA was only held in big countries such as Brazil, Italy, Argentina, Germany and Spain, but when they enter Qatar where the majority are Muslim countries, they must understand the existing culture and don't worry too much about it because I'm sure you can still buy alcohol somewhere while for a wedding as long as the man is able to give happiness to his wife it will be very permissible depending on the culture in your area.
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September 13, 2022, 10:51:31 PM
Not only alcoholic drinks are regulated but Qatar is very strict about things like sex too. even the punishment that awaits the perpetrators of free sex is not playing around 7 years in prison.

I don't know who made the decision of hosting the world cup in such regressive societies. In Qatar, males are allowed to marry 4 times and even in case of divorce there is no alimony or maintenance payment. That is not the case in other countries. Some of the people can't afford to get married due to various reasons, and they maintain live-in relationships. And these sort of relations are banned in Qatar and as per the laws any such couples will be jailed for 6-7 years. I hope that FIFA will not allow such a prestigious tournament to be hosted in stone age societies in the future.
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September 13, 2022, 07:09:26 PM
Messi and Ronaldo are still icons of world football. Although now their performance is declining in each of the teams they defend. But his appearance is still awaited by most football lovers. Moreover, this is a World Cup where these two players have never lifted the trophy of the biggest party in football. Not only that, disputes between two fans still occur, especially on social media, both fans are still comparing who is better between the two even though there are now many talented young players born.
Even if these two have retired, that won't erase the fact that they are once an icon in the football industry, the same as with Muhammad Ali in boxing. Even if he isn't active in that said sport anymore his names are still everywhere and being talked about up until now. It is normal for their performance to decline over the years because they are only a human and they grow old too where their ability can deteriorate.

The time will come that they will be replaced by a much younger and more skilled player although it is not easy for them to be in the level of those legends that we know. They need to practice and have more experience.

It is very true, I think that at this time it is very difficult for players like them to come out, for now the new generation is not at that level, we will wait another 3 or 4 years to see if the next generations of relief present us with football more colorful, here in our current time we not only have Messi and CR7, we cannot forget Neymar, Salah, they are players who score in some way, Modric himself and Lewandowski, these are very good world figures, and years ago I I really liked the generation that was there, Totti, Nakata, Zidane, Ronaldo, Vieri the bull, Inzaghi, Luis Figo, and after them came Ronaldinho, Messi, CR7, and more, but those who are promising now like Mbappé, Haaland They do not meet my expectations.

There is a possibility that Portugal and Argentina could play in the finals, just like almost most world cups. Which is why I am still holding out hope one last time, I know that 4 years from now it would be quite difficult for Ronaldo to be the striker for Portugal, and maybe Messi won't be there as well. This means this is the last time that we are going to see Argentina and Portugal having a chance of finals against each other to see these two giants.

I know that Argentina does have a chance but Portugal doesn't and they are given low odds but I just hope some pure luck and something happens and we watch that. I guarantee you, in ANY combination of finals, that would be the most viewed finals ever.

Portugal and Argentina had great players before Messi and Ronaldo, and they will have them after them too, don't worry  Grin
You are too young to remember Eusebio, but he was the best footballer in the world in his time, better than Messi and Ronaldo, and with him the Portuguese national team was very strong.
And what can we say about Kempes who brought Argentina the title of world champion in 1978 or Maradona who managed to do it with Argentina in 1986?
I'm sure that even after Messi and Ronaldo, new great footballers will appear in Portugal and Argentina and that we will see the two national teams again in the finals of world competitions.

Eusebio was better than Messi and Ronaldo? What are you referring to? And how does that even look like? When Messi makes soccer look as easy as one could ever imagine it to be, how did Eusebio make it look even easier?

I think it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to argue that Eusebio was better. What makes sense though is when someone says times were different and at that specific time player X was the best in the world. I doubt that Eusebio would have ever had better stats these days than Messi if they played at the same time.

I also don't think that a World Cup title decides whether you are a good player or not. When you are born into a county that simply can't win the title, does that automatically mean that you can't be a good player?                                                                                                       

Well, without a doubt, stars should appear in the style of CR7 and Messi, for now Haaland and Mbappé are appearing, although for me Haaland is much better than Mbappé, this without a doubt I think that in the World Cup we will meet more young and emerging stars, that It is what is expected in theory and Real Madrid knows it, like Barcelona and the clubs in Europe, it is a pity that Italy is not in the World Cup in Sweden, of those countries there are many promises that do not have the opportunity to have visualization, but surely at some point they will be announced, that is something that is fulfilled, at the end of 1-2 years, we will have more stars, of that I am sure.

It is often hard to tell when you have two players like Mbappe and Haaland whether one is really much better than the other. A major difference between the two is that Haaland comes across as more down to earth and wants the success no matter what. His mind is focused solely on the game and on nothing else. You can literally see it when he is trying to score, while Mbappe often lacks the extra bit of motivation. It will be a lot of fun to have Haaland around for many years.

Well, you are right, France will always be a team that can give a lot to talk about, they are very well trained, Germany also has a lot of power, I also see that Muller is unstoppable, this is going to be very good, although as I said before, I think it would be good if a player like CR7 and Messi they will stay with this World Cup, Brazil is very dangerous, they have a great team and everything to win, besides the Brazilians never look tired and in their country what is breathed is pure football, on the other hand I think that for him The next World Cup will also be very good, there will be more countries and the fact of thinking that we will enjoy football matches much more, that it will be longer, is something that at least excites me.

Surely there will be places where you can find alcohol in Qatar. The only question is whether you should be willing to look for that risk. There can be severe penalties in such countries. I think the weather conditions will be the biggest challenge for most players. The best teams mainly have players playing in top European competitions, and there it is quite cold around November and you can easily have temperatures around freezing. Then as a player you have to get used to if you suddenly have to play football in the sun with 30 degrees. Because of that, we could see some surprises in the group stage. After all, not all of them have the same amount of time to prepare because of the competition that is in full swing.

With regard to alcohol on the courts in Qatar, it is a unique luxury, I really would like to enjoy the games with a good beer in hand and eating some hot dogs, it would not be bad at all, also in Qatar there are other customs, maybe not They don't have Hot Dogs for sale but more regional foods, I don't dislike either, knowing everything that has to do with Qatar is a great way to enjoy this country, the gastronomy and the customs that they have, but as you say, it is good to have in Ceunta qeu will allow this type of freedom, this World Cup will have many good things, I hope to see innovations and more than football.

In this informative article they give much more details:



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“Where the FIFA World Cup stadiums are concerned, ticket holders will have access to Budweiser, Budweiser Zero and Coca-Cola products within the stadium perimeter prior to kick-off and after the final whistle,” it added.

“Inside the stadium bowl ticket holders will have access to non-alcoholic Budweiser Zero and the full range of Coca-Cola products. At the FIFA Fan Festival, Budweiser will be available to purchase from 6.30pm, and Budweiser Zero and Coca-Cola products throughout the day”.

Source: https://dohanews.co/qatar-to-allow-alcohol-within-stadium-perimeter-prior-to-kick-off-at-world-cup-games/

Well this clarifies that they will only have access to beers before the game and after the game and only in authorized places.
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September 13, 2022, 03:57:17 PM
Surely there will be places where you can find alcohol in Qatar. The only question is whether you should be willing to look for that risk. There can be severe penalties in such countries. I think the weather conditions will be the biggest challenge for most players. The best teams mainly have players playing in top European competitions, and there it is quite cold around November and you can easily have temperatures around freezing. Then as a player you have to get used to if you suddenly have to play football in the sun with 30 degrees. Because of that, we could see some surprises in the group stage. After all, not all of them have the same amount of time to prepare because of the competition that is in full swing.
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September 13, 2022, 02:00:38 PM
It is almost impossible if the qatar party issued a policy to allow visitors to buy and drink alcohol in public places, it would be contrary to the rules and culture in qatar country. It is almost certain that this will not happen, but Qatar has relaxed their rules regarding the 2022 World Cup by allowing the provision of alcoholic beverages.

Alcohol will be served in certain areas of the stadium during this year's Qatar World Cup, CEO Nasser al Khatar told BBC Sport.
Al Khater said his party is still finalizing the regulation related to alcohol. however, as you said. as long as they enjoy the game properly, there is nothing to worry about alcoholic drinks.

It's funny that the issue of alcohol is so acute for everyone. For example, I don't see any point in drinking beer at a football match - because it will inevitably cause the need to run to the toilet, which can lead to the fact that you simply miss part of the game. And if you remember that the toilets at football games are always crowded in general, this is an inconvenient process. In my opinion, alcohol at a football match (and not at home in front of the TV) brings more inconvenience than pleasure.
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September 13, 2022, 11:44:35 AM
It is almost impossible if the qatar party issued a policy to allow visitors to buy and drink alcohol in public places, it would be contrary to the rules and culture in qatar country. It is almost certain that this will not happen, but Qatar has relaxed their rules regarding the 2022 World Cup by allowing the provision of alcoholic beverages.

Alcohol will be served in certain areas of the stadium during this year's Qatar World Cup, CEO Nasser al Khatar told BBC Sport.
Al Khater said his party is still finalizing the regulation related to alcohol. however, as you said. as long as they enjoy the game properly, there is nothing to worry about alcoholic drinks.

Not only alcoholic drinks are regulated but Qatar is very strict about things like sex too. even the punishment that awaits the perpetrators of free sex is not playing around 7 years in prison.

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Qatar strictly prohibits alcohol in public places. Drinking alcohol is only allowed in the designated Fan Zone. Not only that, Qatar also forbids fans from outside to take action together. Male and female supporters who are not husband and wife will not be able to book the same hotel room.

I hope that this rule is carried out by the audience because just imagine there will be many viewers who want sex there but for those who are single and like free sex it is a hard thing.
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September 13, 2022, 11:23:59 AM
Guys, something big is happening right now and can change the group A, group o QATAR, and the first match of World Cup
Ecuador is facing problems and there are chances to be kicked out of World Cup due to a player Byron Castillo, he's being accused of having fake ID


Here's complete source: https://www.marca.com/en/world-cup/2022/09/13/631fba4822601d2d598b45de.html

Now Chile will probably make pressure on FIFA to claim the spot, the World Cup will start in only 68 days, Fifa now have to deal with this problem quickly.
I know Ecuador or Chile is not the favorite ones, but they can fight for a classification on group A with Senegal
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September 13, 2022, 09:21:49 AM
but is it possible that at the world cup event, the country of Qatar will make concessions to all visitors to buy and drink alcohol in public places?
I had heard in a news that they will slightly attenuate the alcohol ban for the FIFA World Cup 2022. And also heard that there may be a ban on drinking alcohol in the open place, but  a separate reserved area will provide for drinking alcohol for only the foreigners. But in my opinion, there is nothing to worry about drinking alcohol or not, as long as the enjoyment of the game is correct

Forbidding a football fan to drink beer is the equivalent of banning hot dogs at a baseball game, mind you, I understand your point and in fact, above all, the World Cup is a family event, it even takes years for some to plan a trip to the World Cup football.

The point is that without a doubt you can watch a soccer game without alcoholic beverages but they are there for the commercial and advertising business they represent, but the prohibitions of those Arab countries are known and they have had to open cultural thoughts to allow it.
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September 13, 2022, 08:08:16 AM
It is almost impossible if the qatar party issued a policy to allow visitors to buy and drink alcohol in public places, it would be contrary to the rules and culture in qatar country. It is almost certain that this will not happen, but Qatar has relaxed their rules regarding the 2022 World Cup by allowing the provision of alcoholic beverages.

Alcohol will be served in certain areas of the stadium during this year's Qatar World Cup, CEO Nasser al Khatar told BBC Sport.
Al Khater said his party is still finalizing the regulation related to alcohol. however, as you said. as long as they enjoy the game properly, there is nothing to worry about alcoholic drinks.
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September 13, 2022, 03:26:28 AM
but is it possible that at the world cup event, the country of Qatar will make concessions to all visitors to buy and drink alcohol in public places?
I had heard in a news that they will slightly attenuate the alcohol ban for the FIFA World Cup 2022. And also heard that there may be a ban on drinking alcohol in the open place, but  a separate reserved area will provide for drinking alcohol for only the foreigners. But in my opinion, there is nothing to worry about drinking alcohol or not, as long as the enjoyment of the game is correct
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September 13, 2022, 01:55:33 AM
The 2022 world cup event in Qatar is only a matter of months away, a series of top teams are ready to fight to be the best, this four-year Grand tournament is scheduled to take place in Qatar from 20 November to 18 December 2022, Qatar is a Muslim majority country for sure. alcohol is not legalized in the country, but is it possible that at the world cup event, the country of Qatar will make concessions to all visitors to buy and drink alcohol in public places?
A total of 32 teams have been divided into 8 groups that are ready to compete in the first round, Qatar itself is in Group A, along with Ecuador, Senegal and the Netherlands.
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September 13, 2022, 01:43:06 AM

We don't really know all the details of the deal.

Maybe they did negotiate it, but they wanted to keep it quiet until later.

Maybe the Qatar government wants to be seen as pushing back, etc.

There are so many possible scenarios that could have happened in the conversations. Whatever is shown to the public is not necessarily exactly what was discussed in private.
Alcohol companies are one of the major financiers of football competitions globally. They wouldn't have kept quiet or overlooked such an important aspect of negotiation or agreement. I believe we would get a clearer picture of the disagreement in a few days because the fans deserve to enjoy their money and drinking their favorite brands should be part of the entertainment. If the Qatari government wants to write off the sponsorship deals of these companies, then they should pay up the contract fees and other compensation. But Qatar and FIFA shouldn't make this world cup the most boring one in the history of football.     
We all should come to the common ground that we have to respect the core values, culture and tradition of both the game and the host of the game. We should not use one to disturb the other, Qatar can't be a secular state overnight because of the world cup. I know that FIFA must have considered many things, including the total freeness of the players and the spectators before deciding to give Qatar the benefit of this year's world cup.

Meaning that, if Qatar could not agree with some financiers' operations, they might pay more to cover up for the lapses. But this will not still affect the online sponsors' campaign.
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September 13, 2022, 12:47:29 AM

We don't really know all the details of the deal.

Maybe they did negotiate it, but they wanted to keep it quiet until later.

Maybe the Qatar government wants to be seen as pushing back, etc.

There are so many possible scenarios that could have happened in the conversations. Whatever is shown to the public is not necessarily exactly what was discussed in private.
Alcohol companies are one of the major financiers of football competitions globally. They wouldn't have kept quiet or overlooked such an important aspect of negotiation or agreement. I believe we would get a clearer picture of the disagreement in a few days because the fans deserve to enjoy their money and drinking their favorite brands should be part of the entertainment. If the Qatari government wants to write off the sponsorship deals of these companies, then they should pay up the contract fees and other compensation. But Qatar and FIFA shouldn't make this world cup the most boring one in the history of football.     
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September 12, 2022, 11:53:48 PM
~snip~
What surprises me the most is that such an important topic was not on the negotiation table from the very beginning since Qatar decided they wanted to host the world cup, we know a great deal of the income generated by football clubs all over the world comes from the sale of alcohol and I guess the same is true for the world cup, how is it possible that they are just negotiating something so important months before the competition? This just shows to me once again that FIFA gave the world cup to Qatar without thinking about all the challenges that doing such a thing will entail.

We don't really know all the details of the deal.

Maybe they did negotiate it, but they wanted to keep it quiet until later.

Maybe the Qatar government wants to be seen as pushing back, etc.

There are so many possible scenarios that could have happened in the conversations. Whatever is shown to the public is not necessarily exactly what was discussed in private.
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September 12, 2022, 11:34:49 PM
The good news is that we can still buy beer in Qatar during the 2022 FIFA world cup. because the FIFA has held intensive talks with the organizers. because this issue is important to FIFA. because after all the producer of Budweiser Beer has been the main sponsor of FIFA for almost three decades. And taking into account the World Cup spectators who also came from outside Qatar. then later there will be a stand selling beer near the stadium door. so the audience can still enjoy a beer while watching the game.
Shout-out to qatar and the organizer team who allow these beer issues settled really well.

It's not something really easy to break the culture that been there for more than what budweiser did in sponsorship, 3 decades? The culture itself might exist for hundreds decades.
Football and beer become a perfect match for some european people and hearing this .. they might won't be too much upset to enjoy the entertainment even more.
What surprises me the most is that such an important topic was not on the negotiation table from the very beginning since Qatar decided they wanted to host the world cup, we know a great deal of the income generated by football clubs all over the world comes from the sale of alcohol and I guess the same is true for the world cup, how is it possible that they are just negotiating something so important months before the competition? This just shows to me once again that FIFA gave the world cup to Qatar without thinking about all the challenges that doing such a thing will entail.
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September 12, 2022, 10:23:27 PM
Just understand, the country have used to it and it haven't experienced any big problem. Now the World is reaching Qatar to watch different matches. By the time the country is favouring to give the comfort as they're in their home countries. For this reason they've given access for alcohol which is truly good. Alcohol isn't bad and it is not the only solution to stimulate body system of people living in cold countries.

In today's world, there is no point in imposing a blanket ban on recreational activities such as gambling and alcohol consumption. People are connected through various online means and they have instant access to all this stuff. If any any Qatari wants to have alcohol, then he will just travel to the neighboring Bahrain and have drinks there. And from what I have heard, most of the alcohol consumers in Bahrain are Qatari and Saudi Arabian nationals. The Bahrain government benefits from the increased tax revenue, while neighboring countries lose out.
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September 12, 2022, 07:27:15 PM
The good news is that we can still buy beer in Qatar during the 2022 FIFA world cup. because the FIFA has held intensive talks with the organizers. because this issue is important to FIFA. because after all the producer of Budweiser Beer has been the main sponsor of FIFA for almost three decades. And taking into account the World Cup spectators who also came from outside Qatar. then later there will be a stand selling beer near the stadium door. so the audience can still enjoy a beer while watching the game.

I think its not a big issue and football can continue even if there is a ban on alcohol and other restrictions. The world must understand that every country has its own values and we must respect those value. Alcohol is ban in Qatar since its an Islamic country but since Qatar has bowed then its good for alcohol lovers.
Banning of something in a country it is not only because all the country desire it or deserve it but it is a personal interests that always makes some people to ban something from a country. Alcohol it's not really bad because some of these countries that have snow need alcohol to stimulate their body system so banning alcohol will bring a very big problem later not now
Just understand, the country have used to it and it haven't experienced any big problem. Now the World is reaching Qatar to watch different matches. By the time the country is favouring to give the comfort as they're in their home countries. For this reason they've given access for alcohol which is truly good. Alcohol isn't bad and it is not the only solution to stimulate body system of people living in cold countries.
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September 12, 2022, 06:11:25 PM
FIFA has heavy sponsors so the careless about their fans all the consider is how much the recover from hosting such world event. FIFA knew about how strict the Islamic laws are held around Qatar. I hope this doesn't turn out a boring world cup with less out of pitch activities outside football there should be other things to spice up the whole world cup tournament
There is no doubt many other activities and celebration ways are available for fans to do in Qatar because I know celebrating in manners are never been ban in Islam and Qatari Authorities surely allow fans and teams for doing things which are in their rules. FIFA is also having some pressure from heavy sponsors because they spend millions of USD's every year for the publicity of their products, and they also need some good things for HI lightening their products around the world.

Recently we have few YouTube videos where Qatari Authorities are hiring big celebrities from Western countries for Hi Lightening their ways of life and local rules because they are also looking for good number of fans from around the world in this event which is going to be good for their tourism in the future.

These are obviously some publicity stunts that are going to be done by the Qatar authorities. Almost every country does that in my opinion. But I would be really happy if Qatar does not look at it only as a money-making opportunity. I would be happy if Qatar thinks about this as a money-making opportunity and also an opportunity to get recognized in the world because of football. I don't have any high expectations from them in the world cup but I believe that they can do well and learn a lot of things from this world cup. Which is going to be really good for them in the long run if they are actually serious about it.
Being the host team they'll be good with their performance. As said it is their learning time and Qatar isn't into money making out of FIFA 2022. If its focus is on money making, right now it could've taken away the entire restrictions within the country. But, with lots of difficulty and plans the selling of alcohol is being allowed.
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