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August 19, 2022, 09:23:40 AM
Yeah, Portugal with Cristiano Ronaldo will make some big advances, but not sure it will win the world cup. And Uruguay is always good, but I don't see them winning this time around.
well, i doubt for the portugal squad. If the Portugal squad still relies heavily on Ronaldo and doesn't change their outdated strategy, don't expect the Portugal squad to progress smoothly in other further rounds.
Even I believe, Uruguay, Ghana, South Korea, will be very troublesome for the Portugal squad to qualify for the next phase.
Portugal cannot continue to rely on Ronaldo, the 2022 world cup will be the last appearance in this most prestigious event. Along with the decline in Ronaldo performance, at this time world cup Portugal was not included in the nominations for the team that was counted as one of the semifinalist candidates.
Maybe Portugal can qualify from the group stage, the obstacles of teams like Uruguay, Ghana and South Korea are still able to be passed by Portugal, but I doubt Portugal can go further in the next round.
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August 19, 2022, 09:04:07 AM
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I would put:
1 - Brazil > France > Germany > Argentina > England > Spain
Only considering these six above, but I think I prefer to put Netherlands instead of Spain in sixth place

Obviously it's not 100% guaranteed to any os these 6 squads to win, but I don't see any other teams winning this cup, maybe Netherlands and Belgium. Portugal and Uruguai are strong but not at the point to win the cup.

Yeah, that makes sense to me.

I would also include The Netherlands as you say. I kinda want them to win this time, they usually are so close, the best they've gotten is second place a few times. This might be their chance to actually win it.

I agree to include the Netherlands instead of Spain, but that doesn't mean the Spanish squad isn't better than the 6 teams mentioned.
it's just that the current performance of the Dutch squad is more solid than the Spanish squad. it seems, the netherlands are the team that will qualify easily in the group stage, seeing their toughest opponent is only senegal. 

Yeah, Portugal with Cristiano Ronaldo will make some big advances, but not sure it will win the world cup. And Uruguay is always good, but I don't see them winning this time around.


well, i doubt for the portugal squad. If the Portugal squad still relies heavily on Ronaldo and doesn't change their outdated strategy, don't expect the Portugal squad to progress smoothly in other further rounds.
Even I believe, Uruguay, Ghana, South Korea, will be very troublesome for the Portugal squad to qualify for the next phase.
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August 19, 2022, 08:19:30 AM

The chances of the top six winning the World Cup look like this:

Brazil        5.55
England    6.60
France      7.05
Argentina  8.10
Spain        9.10
Germany   11.10

If there was complete certainty that one of these teams would win gold, then one could bet on all of them and get a guaranteed profit of almost 21%. But I do not think that anyone can give such guarantees. Even if we imagine that all these teams have reached the 1/4 finals (and they can meet each other at earlier stages), it turns out that there will be 2 teams that, in order to become a champion, need to win only 3 games in underdog status. This is a fairly common situation in annihilation games.

Can you post the source of this list please?

In my opinion, England is not the second favorite to win

I would put:
1 - Brazil > France > Germany > Argentina > England > Spain
Only considering these six above, but I think I prefer to put Netherlands instead of Spain in sixth place

Obviously it's not 100% guaranteed to any os these 6 squads to win, but I don't see any other teams winning this cup, maybe Netherlands and Belgium. Portugal and Uruguai are strong but not at the point to win the cup.


https://stake.com/sports/outright/soccer/international/world-cup/10753-world-cup-2022 - here is the source (click World Cup - Winner and you will see the details), however, I do not think that any other bookmaker quotes are very different.
I agree about Germany, this team is underestimated, but on the other hand there are reasons for this - already two major competitions can be said to be failed and in general it is now difficult to single out someone as a super star there, and the whole team does not show the results that are usually expect from them.
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August 19, 2022, 07:26:35 AM
Yeah, Portugal with Cristiano Ronaldo will make some big advances, but not sure it will win the world cup. And Uruguay is always good, but I don't see them winning this time around.

The problem with Portugal is obvious, they are too dependent of Cristiano Ronaldo, and the truth have to be said, he is 37 years old, almost impossible to carry the team 7 matches to be the champion, but a decent cup will be at the quarter-finals, and I believe they are capable of. It's probably the last cup for him, and I think he will do everything to play at best, the last cup, the last chance.

Uruguay have old players like Gódin, Luis Suárez and Edinson Cavani who are pretty good and can decide some matches, but old enough to not have a consistency cup, on the bright side they love soccer and world cup, they classified in an incredible way, they were at 7th place and lasting 4 rounds of qualifiers, they won 4 matches and guaranteed the 3rd place.

They also have Arrascaeta of Flamengo, Piquerez from Palmeiras, both are playing so good, that you can expect at least quarter-finals from Uruguay too.

They lack the consistency to bet that outcome this far out.   It could be proven but I'd rather take the bet having seen them put in the performance presumably with the training and discipline beforehand.   Also Qatar in general is a wildcard to me, maybe that'll be a pointless fear in retrospect but seems possible some teams suffer more then others altering the odds drastically as the contest is ongoing.


What's the best long shot bet in this contest.  Straight away it seems the odds for Germany at 11x would be far too high not to be worth considering with a bet to cover that outcome.

Exactly, you have a good understanding here, England suffer from lack of consistency. I'm not England but I've always liked the squad (Beckham, Lampard, Rooney, Terry etc) but they always get attention of media, always a strong squad, starts well, but they can't hold and lose some "easy" matches and bye bye England.
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August 18, 2022, 11:08:18 PM
Most consistent teams this time are Brazil and Argentina. European titans have been inconsistent on results these days, especially France. Maybe it's because european nations in general are all balanced and offer decent challenges to each other, while in South America Brazil and Argentina don't have great opponents to play against, so it's easier to stand out and get noticed.

Personally I don't expect an underdog to take the protagonism of Qatar's world cup, like Croatia did in 2018 at Russia's world cup. The competition must be between the teams pointed as the favorite ones. i just think this time Brazil and Argentina are better prepared to reach further on the championship.

In every edition, there will be underdogs who manage to surprise the big teams. Back in 2018, it was Croatia. And there is a good chance that in 2022 it maybe Serbia, Wales or Senegal. Football is a game where even a single mistake can prove to be costly. So I won't be surprised if some of the much hyped teams get kicked out of the world cup by the smaller ones. France looks like the most overhyped team at this point and some of the other UEFA nations are also venturing in to that territory, including Netherlands, Germany and Belgium.
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August 18, 2022, 09:00:37 PM
Most consistent teams this time are Brazil and Argentina. European titans have been inconsistent on results these days, especially France. Maybe it's because european nations in general are all balanced and offer decent challenges to each other, while in South America Brazil and Argentina don't have great opponents to play against, so it's easier to stand out and get noticed.

Personally I don't expect an underdog to take the protagonism of Qatar's world cup, like Croatia did in 2018 at Russia's world cup. The competition must be between the teams pointed as the favorite ones. i just think this time Brazil and Argentina are better prepared to reach further on the championship.

I agree with you, but note that many of the European players are Latin American and that includes Brazilians and Argentines.
So... when they play for Brazil or Argentine they won't be "infected" by that European malady that you mentioned?

I really hope that Brazil wins, because i'm Brazilian, it's impossible to cheer against him Grin.
But Europe has always had very strong teams, so it's difficult to guarantee who will win.

I prefer to leave my bet for when they pass the group stage.
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August 18, 2022, 08:39:29 PM
Most consistent teams this time are Brazil and Argentina. European titans have been inconsistent on results these days, especially France. Maybe it's because european nations in general are all balanced and offer decent challenges to each other, while in South America Brazil and Argentina don't have great opponents to play against, so it's easier to stand out and get noticed.

Personally I don't expect an underdog to take the protagonism of Qatar's world cup, like Croatia did in 2018 at Russia's world cup. The competition must be between the teams pointed as the favorite ones. i just think this time Brazil and Argentina are better prepared to reach further on the championship.
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August 18, 2022, 08:02:13 PM
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In my opinion, England is not the second favorite to win
They lack the consistency to bet that outcome this far out.   It could be proven but I'd rather take the bet having seen them put in the performance presumably with the training and discipline beforehand.   Also Qatar in general is a wildcard to me, maybe that'll be a pointless fear in retrospect but seems possible some teams suffer more then others altering the odds drastically as the contest is ongoing.


What's the best long shot bet in this contest.  Straight away it seems the odds for Germany at 11x would be far too high not to be worth considering with a bet to cover that outcome.
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August 18, 2022, 07:35:30 PM
~snip~
Can you post the source of this list please?

In my opinion, England is not the second favorite to win

I would put:
1 - Brazil > France > Germany > Argentina > England > Spain
Only considering these six above, but I think I prefer to put Netherlands instead of Spain in sixth place

Obviously it's not 100% guaranteed to any os these 6 squads to win, but I don't see any other teams winning this cup, maybe Netherlands and Belgium. Portugal and Uruguai are strong but not at the point to win the cup.

Yeah, that makes sense to me.

I would also include The Netherlands as you say. I kinda want them to win this time, they usually are so close, the best they've gotten is second place a few times. This might be their chance to actually win it.

Yeah, Portugal with Cristiano Ronaldo will make some big advances, but not sure it will win the world cup. And Uruguay is always good, but I don't see them winning this time around.
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August 18, 2022, 05:47:15 PM

The chances of the top six winning the World Cup look like this:

Brazil        5.55
England    6.60
France      7.05
Argentina  8.10
Spain        9.10
Germany   11.10

If there was complete certainty that one of these teams would win gold, then one could bet on all of them and get a guaranteed profit of almost 21%. But I do not think that anyone can give such guarantees. Even if we imagine that all these teams have reached the 1/4 finals (and they can meet each other at earlier stages), it turns out that there will be 2 teams that, in order to become a champion, need to win only 3 games in underdog status. This is a fairly common situation in annihilation games.

Can you post the source of this list please?

In my opinion, England is not the second favorite to win

I would put:
1 - Brazil > France > Germany > Argentina > England > Spain
Only considering these six above, but I think I prefer to put Netherlands instead of Spain in sixth place

Obviously it's not 100% guaranteed to any os these 6 squads to win, but I don't see any other teams winning this cup, maybe Netherlands and Belgium. Portugal and Uruguai are strong but not at the point to win the cup.
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August 18, 2022, 02:04:22 PM

I had mentioned this a few weeks ago. I believe that the Argentine squad for FIFA 2022 will be the strongest one they send ever since 1986. Although Messi dominates the lineup, there is no overdependence on him. There is good team bonding and balance. And from what I have seen in the past editions of the world cup, the trophy is always won by the team with the best tactics and team cohesion, rather than the team with the best players. I believe that Argentina has the capability of lifting the trophy this time, provided they get some luck on their way.
Still if we look at the few games they have played the dependence on Messi is still there but it's only slightly unlike Portugal's dependence on Ronaldo.
Messi's role still dominates in the current Argentina squad and even though many deny this, it is still a fact.
But for their performance it's clear they will talk a lot in their performances this time but I'm not too sure of them in the final.
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August 18, 2022, 12:03:52 PM
It is interesting to see how the discussion is filled with predictions of which country will appear in the Qatar World Cup final. I personally prefer to see one of the countries that appear in the final is a dark horse country.
I think it could happen, although the chances are slim. But it would be interesting if it could actually come true.
This could have happened because in the 2018 world cup Croatia became a finalist and I'm sure not many people think,
but for myself, to be honest, I expected an ideal final that brought together two countries that have good squads,
what is clear is that we will see later and hopefully this year's world cup will be more interesting
Yes, it has its own advantages and disadvantages, the ideal final is interesting because we cannot be sure who will be the winner. Whereas if the state of the black horse as a finalist, it will be easier to predict it.
But I remembered when Germany met Brazil a few years ago. Who would have thought they would lose to a very landslide score like that.
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August 18, 2022, 10:28:40 AM
There is no doubt we are going to have winner from top four to six teams because these all are having quality and skilled players, and they can turn table in their favor at any time without serious trouble with right now most chances peoples polls saying if we short list few teams then right now both teams from South America are hot favorite for this event because these both teams are well-balanced and have better ability to fight with these conditions instead of European teams.

But, if we check quality then surely few European teams are superior and also can go through for title with their quality and talent because these are also well settled and can give their best like France, England, Germany and Netherlands.

The chances of the top six winning the World Cup look like this:

Brazil        5.55
England    6.60
France      7.05
Argentina  8.10
Spain        9.10
Germany   11.10

If there was complete certainty that one of these teams would win gold, then one could bet on all of them and get a guaranteed profit of almost 21%. But I do not think that anyone can give such guarantees. Even if we imagine that all these teams have reached the 1/4 finals (and they can meet each other at earlier stages), it turns out that there will be 2 teams that, in order to become a champion, need to win only 3 games in underdog status. This is a fairly common situation in annihilation games.
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August 18, 2022, 09:54:34 AM
But, if we check quality then surely few European teams are superior and also can go through for title with their quality and talent because these are also well settled and can give their best like France, England, Germany and Netherlands.
Yes, they are currently always included in the prediction category for the top 10 strongest in the FIFA World Cup tournament, some French simulation results have a great chance of winning the 2022 World Cup, if if France really succeeded as predicted and defended the champion this time, they became the umpteenth country in defending the title, Spain, Brazil also did not want to lose in this case.

For sure, predictions are okay, of course everyone has their favorite team, I can't wait to watch the cycle of the world cup match in Qatar this year, hopefully it won't be a problem, considering the world cup coincides in the summer in Qatar.
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August 18, 2022, 09:30:02 AM
Argentina can go far, they need one more additional striker who can convert those chances and show up. I think that can be Julian Alvarez depending on what Pep does with him between July and November. And I am sure, they will give it their all to reach the finals and win the World Cup. At the end of the day, anything is really possible nowadays in this sport, especially after Madrid winning the Champions league, the best team doesn’t always win it all, so yeah Argentina definitely have a good shot, just like England, France, Brazil, Spain etc

I had mentioned this a few weeks ago. I believe that the Argentine squad for FIFA 2022 will be the strongest one they send ever since 1986. Although Messi dominates the lineup, there is no overdependence on him. There is good team bonding and balance. And from what I have seen in the past editions of the world cup, the trophy is always won by the team with the best tactics and team cohesion, rather than the team with the best players. I believe that Argentina has the capability of lifting the trophy this time, provided they get some luck on their way.


Messi will remain a mainstay for Argentina, only this time it's different, Argentina is no longer dependent on the megastar. this year is the right moment for messi and his teammates to win the world cup qatar.
starting from experience, argentina is slowly changing, now messi is more free to play by releasing the burden on his shoulders, they will play collectively as a whole as a team, and proven effective, they become conmebol cup finalists.
and this time too, the claloni squad have a chance to win the world cup qatar, as you said, a bit of luck on their way can bring the argentina squad to lift the championship trophy.
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August 18, 2022, 05:42:22 AM
It is interesting to see how the discussion is filled with predictions of which country will appear in the Qatar World Cup final. I personally prefer to see one of the countries that appear in the final is a dark horse country.
I think it could happen, although the chances are slim. But it would be interesting if it could actually come true.
This could have happened because in the 2018 world cup Croatia became a finalist and I'm sure not many people think,
but for myself, to be honest, I expected an ideal final that brought together two countries that have good squads,
what is clear is that we will see later and hopefully this year's world cup will be more interesting
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August 18, 2022, 05:16:11 AM
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August 18, 2022, 04:41:10 AM
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Argentina can go far, they need one more additional striker who can convert those chances and show up. I think that can be Julian Alvarez depending on what Pep does with him between July and November. And I am sure, they will give it their all to reach the finals and win the World Cup. At the end of the day, anything is really possible nowadays in this sport, especially after Madrid winning the Champions league, the best team doesn’t always win it all, so yeah Argentina definitely have a good shot, just like England, France, Brazil, Spain etc
Yeah, I agree. I would say there are about 4-6 teams that are very strong and will definitely clash between each other to get the world cup.

In my mind I'm thinking that it would be so great to see The Netherlands as the champions this time around, because they're so good but they've never actually won it, just 2nd place a few times.

You never know with football, they might just get lucky this time around.
There is no doubt we are going to have winner from top four to six teams because these all are having quality and skilled players, and they can turn table in their favor at any time without serious trouble with right now most chances peoples polls saying if we short list few teams then right now both teams from South America are hot favorite for this event because these both teams are well-balanced and have better ability to fight with these conditions instead of European teams.

But, if we check quality then surely few European teams are superior and also can go through for title with their quality and talent because these are also well settled and can give their best like France, England, Germany and Netherlands.
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August 17, 2022, 11:23:21 PM
Argentina can go far, they need one more additional striker who can convert those chances and show up. I think that can be Julian Alvarez depending on what Pep does with him between July and November. And I am sure, they will give it their all to reach the finals and win the World Cup. At the end of the day, anything is really possible nowadays in this sport, especially after Madrid winning the Champions league, the best team doesn’t always win it all, so yeah Argentina definitely have a good shot, just like England, France, Brazil, Spain etc

I had mentioned this a few weeks ago. I believe that the Argentine squad for FIFA 2022 will be the strongest one they send ever since 1986. Although Messi dominates the lineup, there is no overdependence on him. There is good team bonding and balance. And from what I have seen in the past editions of the world cup, the trophy is always won by the team with the best tactics and team cohesion, rather than the team with the best players. I believe that Argentina has the capability of lifting the trophy this time, provided they get some luck on their way.
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August 17, 2022, 08:57:57 PM
It is interesting to see how the discussion is filled with predictions of which country will appear in the Qatar World Cup final. I personally prefer to see one of the countries that appear in the final is a dark horse country.
I think it could happen, although the chances are slim. But it would be interesting if it could actually come true.
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