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August 23, 2022, 12:46:16 AM
Yes they do have air conditioning in their stadiums, people can even wear sweaters inside with no problem, the hot weather was definitely considered and they did all they can to make it as comfortable as it could for the players and the crowd, I don't think we'll hear complaints from players about the other, it won't be that hot because it's not in the middle of the summer and air conditioning is big factor too.
If the stadiums have air conditioning or some kind of climate control, wouldn't that be enough to decrease the temperatures and the world cup could happen in the middle of the year!!?
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August 23, 2022, 12:38:36 AM
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LOL... You can't compare Messi and Ronaldo with players such as Cavani. Messi and Ronaldo are absolute legends. They are the best of the best. Suarez, Modric.etc had their small periods of fame, but they haven't managed to keep their form continuously. And we can say with 100% confidence that Messi and Ronaldo can single-handedly win matches for their teams. How many of the other players have this capability? Without support from the other players, how many of them can win matches for their teams?

I don't know about Cavani, but I remember Suarez having a few moments like that, in which he would basically just win the match by himself.

Also, I'm not sure Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo will perform at their peak in this World Cup, as they're already almost retired. Still amazing players, but not sure they're at their peak today.
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August 22, 2022, 11:58:20 PM
Ramos, Suarez, Cavani, Modric, and Benzema also a top players, but they're doesn't have enough popularity than Messi and Ronaldo, so I believe whether they're retire or not, it wouldn't make a change.
I think with all them less popularity than Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, I don't see have any young player like Mbappe and Haaland have popularity with their fans, but football keep running although Messi and Ronaldo have been retired.

LOL... You can't compare Messi and Ronaldo with players such as Cavani. Messi and Ronaldo are absolute legends. They are the best of the best. Suarez, Modric.etc had their small periods of fame, but they haven't managed to keep their form continuously. And we can say with 100% confidence that Messi and Ronaldo can single-handedly win matches for their teams. How many of the other players have this capability? Without support from the other players, how many of them can win matches for their teams?
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August 22, 2022, 08:45:25 PM
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Yes they do have air conditioning in their stadiums, people can even wear sweaters inside with no problem, the hot weather was definitely considered and they did all they can to make it as comfortable as it could for the players and the crowd, I don't think we'll hear complaints from players about the other, it won't be that hot because it's not in the middle of the summer and air conditioning is big factor too.

To be honest, I don't think all this talk about the extreme weather in Qatar is reasonable. I mean, have a look at the actual historical data for the temperature there in November:



It's going to be very pleasant to be honest. In many places in Europe they're having days with 40+ degs recently, much hotter!
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August 22, 2022, 07:45:03 PM
I agree with you, we agree that the weather factor is not a determining factor in a victory for a squad that is used to hot climates. as you said, at the 2010 world cup held in south africa, spain managed to become champion for the first time, the weather factor was not a serious problem faced by the european squad at that time, and spain managed to become champion.

The problem of weather factors has been carefully considered by FIFA and the 2022 world cup host, FIFA claims, in June and July the temperature in Qatar is very hot, it can even be as high as 41.3 degrees Celsius.  FIFA has changed the schedule for the 2022 world cup to 20 November-18 December.

so in my opinion, there is no longer any excuse that the hot climate factor is the biggest obstacle for the european squad at the world cup in Qatar.
and the hot climate is not a big advantage for the Latin American squad, let alone the determinant of being a world cup champion.  it all depends on the readiness of the players, mentality, cohesiveness and the quality of a team.
Reading this post, I had a doubt about this theme.
We know, Qatar is a rich country and also has an excellent structure these days.

But... aren't the stadiums that will host the World Cup games air-conditioned or something similar to try to soften the temperature? Is this really viable? Or is it something extremely difficult to happen?

Yes they do have air conditioning in their stadiums, people can even wear sweaters inside with no problem, the hot weather was definitely considered and they did all they can to make it as comfortable as it could for the players and the crowd, I don't think we'll hear complaints from players about the other, it won't be that hot because it's not in the middle of the summer and air conditioning is big factor too.
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August 22, 2022, 05:39:42 PM
I agree with you, we agree that the weather factor is not a determining factor in a victory for a squad that is used to hot climates. as you said, at the 2010 world cup held in south africa, spain managed to become champion for the first time, the weather factor was not a serious problem faced by the european squad at that time, and spain managed to become champion.

The problem of weather factors has been carefully considered by FIFA and the 2022 world cup host, FIFA claims, in June and July the temperature in Qatar is very hot, it can even be as high as 41.3 degrees Celsius.  FIFA has changed the schedule for the 2022 world cup to 20 November-18 December.

so in my opinion, there is no longer any excuse that the hot climate factor is the biggest obstacle for the european squad at the world cup in Qatar.
and the hot climate is not a big advantage for the Latin American squad, let alone the determinant of being a world cup champion.  it all depends on the readiness of the players, mentality, cohesiveness and the quality of a team.
Reading this post, I had a doubt about this theme.
We know, Qatar is a rich country and also has an excellent structure these days.

But... aren't the stadiums that will host the World Cup games air-conditioned or something similar to try to soften the temperature? Is this really viable? Or is it something extremely difficult to happen?

Regarding the weather, a factor that can make a lot of difference during a game is not the temperature, but maybe a player could ""suffer"" more during a soccer match in a country with high altitude, for example Peru, Bolivia and others countries.

I even imagine the high altitude factor can influence even more than high or low temperatures

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August 22, 2022, 02:26:43 PM
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Messi and Ronaldo were unique as we watch them for many years, and now it's time for them to give up and replaced with new ones, so we feel they are the greatest player in soccer history even we have too many names and performances from many legendary players in past as well.
messi and CR7 are living legends that should be shifted by the younger generation who are still fresh, they have made many great achievements but both of them have not been able to bring their country to win the world cup

The new potential names that have emerged are the ones that deserve our attention, Mbappe, Haaland and Musiala are likely to be the big highlights in the Qatar 2022 World Cup
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August 22, 2022, 02:16:03 PM
Keep in mind though that there have always been exceptions especially when it comes to the goalkeeper position. Buffon and other keepers have been around their forties or close to it and still participated in the big tournaments. I can see Neuer still being around in four years from now. Maybe he isn't first choice anymore by then, but he could still be a part of the team. That might also be the case for Muller, but it all comes down to their physical fitness and whether they are still playing by then anyway. But yes, this World Cup will be the last one for some of the GOATs. Hopefully we can enjoy some strong performances by Messi, Ronaldo and all the rest.
Here, we have nothing new because it's going into cycle many great players now in history books with their play and achievements so same going to happen with these legendary players as well because no one can stop time span and these players from coming older as we lost them surely we will have many new names even many are under development, but few are giving their best like Mbappé, Neymar and Haaland they could be new players to talk about and having something good for new generation kids.

Messi and Ronaldo were unique as we watch them for many years, and now it's time for them to give up and replaced with new ones, so we feel they are the greatest player in soccer history even we have too many names and performances from many legendary players in past as well.

Most chances Neuer are not going to stay here for next four years because he is not like we have Buffon or few others those give their best until age of 40 most chances he will be replaced soon with some better one.
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August 22, 2022, 10:39:52 AM
I wondering how much the difference of the fans when Messi and Ronaldo already retired, I think it does have a big difference. Many fans only watch a club when their favorite player play, although not at all.

Ramos, Suarez, Cavani, Modric, and Benzema also a top players, but they're doesn't have enough popularity than Messi and Ronaldo, so I believe whether they're retire or not, it wouldn't make a change.

We're already on regeneration session where most clubs are looking for 20-25 years old players.
After Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo retired from football I don't know what new player become their list favorite, I am not really fans with player but exactly with club only, I watch football with my favorite club not watching about who play there. Not really care about Lionel Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo have retired from football later I keep watch my favorite team.
As a football fan, I was very lucky to be able to watch the beautiful play of these two great actors. Now that Ronaldo and Messi are in the final stages of their careers, perhaps the 2022 World Cup will be their last stage in this most prestigious event.
Unfortunately, these two great players both failed to lead their country to win the World Cup trophy, I doubt they can be successful in this World Cup, because apart from their old age, the quality of other players in their squad is also less supportive.

Ronaldo and Messi will always be remembered as great players, after they retired nothing changed from football. It's just that we can't watch live amazing actions from them, but there will be other players who can provide new entertainment for their fans with extraordinary actions on the field.
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August 22, 2022, 02:32:42 AM
First of all, the world championship is not held during the summer but in the winter when the weather conditions in Qatar will be much more favorable.
Looking at the current weather forecast for Europe, I hardly see any difference between Europe and Africa  Grin
European players are already used to playing in all kinds of weather conditions, and during the matches they will have cooling breaks, when the matches will be interrupted, so I don't see any serious problem for European players.
As now, we are heading for this year's world cup peoples are bringing new issues every day like right now few are having serious trouble with weather but still things are manageable, and they can give their best as well in last two decades now European teams are preparing for playing into all conditions because they are understating it's also very important for them if they want to stay at top for some more years with they are already at top for last two decades.

Even few teams can expect some difficulty, but these all are manageable, and we can expect good and interesting fight for title from all teams and no one going to have any problem with the weather and condition if I am not wrong then again we can expect some good surprises in early matches.
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August 22, 2022, 02:16:53 AM
If we consider the last 4 world championships and where they were played, one was held in South Africa and the other in Brazil, so your statement is not correct.
According to all predictions, the Latin American national teams should have had an advantage due to the climatic conditions in South Africa and Brazil, and Brazil additionally as the host of the world championship, but this did not happen and the European teams were much better.
The world's top players are already used to playing in all weather conditions and I don't think it will be the decisive factor that will decide the winner of the world championship.
I agree with you, we agree that the weather factor is not a determining factor in a victory for a squad that is used to hot climates. as you said, at the 2010 world cup held in south africa, spain managed to become champion for the first time, the weather factor was not a serious problem faced by the european squad at that time, and spain managed to become champion.
The problem of weather factors has been carefully considered by FIFA and the 2022 world cup host, FIFA claims, in June and July the temperature in Qatar is very hot, it can even be as high as 41.3 degrees Celsius.  FIFA has changed the schedule for the 2022 world cup to 20 November-18 December.
so in my opinion, there is no longer any excuse that the hot climate factor is the biggest obstacle for the european squad at the world cup in Qatar.
and the hot climate is not a big advantage for the Latin American squad, let alone the determinant of being a world cup champion.  it all depends on the readiness of the players, mentality, cohesiveness and the quality of a team.

So this is going to be fair for everyone now I guess. Anything over 40°C could have been very detrimental to the health of the players. But I believe that at night, there is quite a bit of a decrease in temperature in this area. Therefore, I don't think it would have been a problem in my opinion in any case. However, it is obvious that you cannot put a price on peace of mind. From a neutral point of view, moving the date of the meeting to November or December is going to be a very positive move. I also think that it is a good thing to see that the authority is keeping things as neutral as possible in order to provide a good experience for the public as well.
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August 21, 2022, 11:56:29 PM
I wondering how much the difference of the fans when Messi and Ronaldo already retired, I think it does have a big difference. Many fans only watch a club when their favorite player play, although not at all.

Ramos, Suarez, Cavani, Modric, and Benzema also a top players, but they're doesn't have enough popularity than Messi and Ronaldo, so I believe whether they're retire or not, it wouldn't make a change.

We're already on regeneration session where most clubs are looking for 20-25 years old players.
After Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo retired from football I don't know what new player become their list favorite, I am not really fans with player but exactly with club only, I watch football with my favorite club not watching about who play there. Not really care about Lionel Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo have retired from football later I keep watch my favorite team.

Ramos, Suarez, Cavani, Modric, and Benzema also a top players, but they're doesn't have enough popularity than Messi and Ronaldo, so I believe whether they're retire or not, it wouldn't make a change.
I think with all them less popularity than Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, I don't see have any young player like Mbappe and Haaland have popularity with their fans, but football keep running although Messi and Ronaldo have been retired.
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August 21, 2022, 09:44:45 AM
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It's really a cup to watch if you like soccer, Messi and Ronaldo are legends and it's probably the last opportunity to watch in a great level

But there's more players to play the last cup as a player:

  • Sergio Busquets, 34  - Spain
  • Sergio Ramos, 36 - Spain
  • Luis Suárez, 35 - Uruguay
  • Edinson Cavani, 35 - Uruguay
  • Luka Modric, 36 - Croatia
  • Thiago Silva, 37 - Brazil
  • Thomas Muller, 33 - Germany
  • Karim Benzema, 35 - France
  • Manuel Neuer, 36 - Germany

Wow, you're right. So many that I missed!.

I think it's the whole covid situation that made the last few years pass so quickly. I didn't realize that many players are so old now!

Keep in mind though that there have always been exceptions especially when it comes to the goalkeeper position. Buffon and other keepers have been around their forties or close to it and still participated in the big tournaments. I can see Neuer still being around in four years from now. Maybe he isn't first choice anymore by then, but he could still be a part of the team. That might also be the case for Muller, but it all comes down to their physical fitness and whether they are still playing by then anyway. But yes, this World Cup will be the last one for some of the GOATs. Hopefully we can enjoy some strong performances by Messi, Ronaldo and all the rest.
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August 21, 2022, 08:51:09 AM
Directly from the World Cup, the star player Mbappe said that the most likely team in this World Cup is the European teams. I think he has compared this World Cup with the last four World Cups Because last four world cup but European countries won. But considering the conditions and differences, I think the Latin American teams will be ahead in this World Cup Because they are supposed to do better than European teams in Qatar conditions. Hope this World Cup Latin American team will win.

If we consider the last 4 world championships and where they were played, one was held in South Africa and the other in Brazil, so your statement is not correct.
According to all predictions, the Latin American national teams should have had an advantage due to the climatic conditions in South Africa and Brazil, and Brazil additionally as the host of the world championship, but this did not happen and the European teams were much better.
The world's top players are already used to playing in all weather conditions and I don't think it will be the decisive factor that will decide the winner of the world championship.


I agree with you, we agree that the weather factor is not a determining factor in a victory for a squad that is used to hot climates. as you said, at the 2010 world cup held in south africa, spain managed to become champion for the first time, the weather factor was not a serious problem faced by the european squad at that time, and spain managed to become champion.

The problem of weather factors has been carefully considered by FIFA and the 2022 world cup host, FIFA claims, in June and July the temperature in Qatar is very hot, it can even be as high as 41.3 degrees Celsius.  FIFA has changed the schedule for the 2022 world cup to 20 November-18 December.

so in my opinion, there is no longer any excuse that the hot climate factor is the biggest obstacle for the european squad at the world cup in Qatar.
and the hot climate is not a big advantage for the Latin American squad, let alone the determinant of being a world cup champion.  it all depends on the readiness of the players, mentality, cohesiveness and the quality of a team.
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If we consider the last 4 world championships and where they were played, one was held in South Africa and the other in Brazil, so your statement is not correct.
According to all predictions, the Latin American national teams should have had an advantage due to the climatic conditions in South Africa and Brazil, and Brazil additionally as the host of the world championship, but this did not happen and the European teams were much better.
The world's top players are already used to playing in all weather conditions and I don't think it will be the decisive factor that will decide the winner of the world championship.
Even climate and weather conditions have their impact but still here we have to accept one thing most of the European teams are doing amazing work on their quality and have few quality players those are giving their best just because of this they are ruling this event for last two decades even we have this event in different continents like Africa and South America in both events Europeans done amazing job and have their hands on trophy now we are in Asia and again many are still insisting weather condition is going to have impact on European teams, but I am not agreed with this statement because I am feeling now Europeans are capable of dominating again here with their quality and skills even we can expect some tough challenge from Brazil and Argentina but still Europeans are better favorite.
I think the conditions in Qatar World Cup will be very challenging for every footballer. Because we generally know European countries are cold countries but Qatar is one of the warmest countries in Asia So here the heat will have a big effect. But since there is an opportunity to camp long before the start of the World Cup, maybe they will be able to adapt themselves to this World Cup.Qatar World Cup will be a memorable World Cup compared to other World Cups.

First of all, the world championship is not held during the summer but in the winter when the weather conditions in Qatar will be much more favorable.
Looking at the current weather forecast for Europe, I hardly see any difference between Europe and Africa  Grin
European players are already used to playing in all kinds of weather conditions, and during the matches they will have cooling breaks, when the matches will be interrupted, so I don't see any serious problem for European players.
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August 21, 2022, 05:28:36 AM
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It's really a cup to watch if you like soccer, Messi and Ronaldo are legends and it's probably the last opportunity to watch in a great level

But there's more players to play the last cup as a player:

  • Sergio Busquets, 34  - Spain
  • Sergio Ramos, 36 - Spain
  • Luis Suárez, 35 - Uruguay
  • Edinson Cavani, 35 - Uruguay
  • Luka Modric, 36 - Croatia
  • Thiago Silva, 37 - Brazil
  • Thomas Muller, 33 - Germany
  • Karim Benzema, 35 - France
  • Manuel Neuer, 36 - Germany

Wow, you're right. So many that I missed!.

I think it's the whole covid situation that made the last few years pass so quickly. I didn't realize that many players are so old now!
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August 21, 2022, 03:19:16 AM
I don't see anything like that in their game. But if you think like that with the selfishness of the players at this time they are even seeded and pass the qualification easily, imagine what if they played as a team there?

But if you look at some of the matches they run in qualifying and some of their friendlies, they actually have a different chance, especially in possession of the ball and their troublesome cooperation.
For this time it may be true what you say, I saw their friendly matches and qualifications, collectivity and cooperation have started to stand out in the team, meaning there is a change in every player they have, although there are still some who are still selfish, so far Brazil is still enough counted in the World Cup, but their challengers are also increasing, there are many talented young players currently in various countries with arch rivals Brazil in this world cup
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August 21, 2022, 03:13:21 AM
Can't wait to see the Qatar World Cup get underway. There will be a new euphoria from football lovers in my opinion. Because this World Cup will be a little different, because many star players may end their careers after this World Cup. In addition, there are a lot of young potential who will participate in this biggest football party. Maybe a new star will appear, I think so.
I am also looking forward to the start of the 2022 FIFA world cup. and it is true that there are about 4 star players who will play for the last time in the world cup. because these players have entered an age that is not young anymore. The players are Cristiano Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar and Luka Modric. and of course these star players will definitely try to play their best game. because this is the last time they print their name in the history of the World Cup.
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August 21, 2022, 02:23:40 AM
Looks all player list above would be latest opportunity on FIFA 2022 world cup because all of them have been above 34 years old and next time World Cup edition they will be on 38 years old. Except with Thomas Muller with 33 years old and looks he has chance on next time World Cup edition but still depending his performance with team, but have many cases with several player will retired after reach above 38 years old with national country. Looks very sad because we loss many favorite player and World Cup Qatar edition will be last opportunity on World Cup because next World Cup actually they have retired.
I wondering how much the difference of the fans when Messi and Ronaldo already retired, I think it does have a big difference. Many fans only watch a club when their favorite player play, although not at all.

Ramos, Suarez, Cavani, Modric, and Benzema also a top players, but they're doesn't have enough popularity than Messi and Ronaldo, so I believe whether they're retire or not, it wouldn't make a change.

We're already on regeneration session where most clubs are looking for 20-25 years old players.
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August 21, 2022, 02:10:13 AM
It's really a cup to watch if you like soccer, Messi and Ronaldo are legends and it's probably the last opportunity to watch in a great level

But there's more players to play the last cup as a player:

  • Sergio Busquets, 34  - Spain
  • Sergio Ramos, 36 - Spain
  • Luis Suárez, 35 - Uruguay
  • Edinson Cavani, 35 - Uruguay
  • Luka Modric, 36 - Croatia
  • Thiago Silva, 37 - Brazil
  • Thomas Muller, 33 - Germany
  • Karim Benzema, 35 - France
  • Manuel Neuer, 36 - Germany
Looks all player list above would be latest opportunity on FIFA 2022 world cup because all of them have been above 34 years old and next time World Cup edition they will be on 38 years old. Except with Thomas Muller with 33 years old and looks he has chance on next time World Cup edition but still depending his performance with team, but have many cases with several player will retired after reach above 38 years old with national country. Looks very sad because we loss many favorite player and World Cup Qatar edition will be last opportunity on World Cup because next World Cup actually they have retired.
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