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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 20, 2024, 03:31:37 PM

I could never predict that Indonesia would win the game against Saudi Arabia. However, we can't expect them to win all the games just because they spent a huge amount of money on their team. Saudi Arabia is still a much better team than a team like Indonesia.
We know Indonesia even lost games against weaker teams in this tournament, like China, but this time, their performance was surprising, and now Saudi Arabia's coach is definitely under premiere because of this result.

in fact everyone was surprised by the results. because anyone would never have expected that Indonesia could win when facing a strong enemy like Saudi Arabia. And even the Indonesian national team didn't concede a goal in that match. That was really quite encouraging for all Indonesian national team supporters.
But we never know about the next match. Will Indonesia continue to win or will it be the opposite? Because yes, Indonesia even lost to China. But the next match is still quite far away, namely next year against Australia and then Bahrain. So we will never know whether Indonesia will still play quite well or will get worse again at that time.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 20, 2024, 03:31:37 PM

I could never predict that Indonesia would win the game against Saudi Arabia. However, we can't expect them to win all the games just because they spent a huge amount of money on their team. Saudi Arabia is still a much better team than a team like Indonesia.
We know Indonesia even lost games against weaker teams in this tournament, like China, but this time, their performance was surprising, and now Saudi Arabia's coach is definitely under premiere because of this result.

I guess many people would have bet the Saudi Arabia would have a smooth win over Indonesia. But the result shows the unpredictability of football. A brace from Marcelino Ferdinan and the inspiration from the naturalized goalkeeper Maarten Paes made them get that all important win. Group C is currently the group of death because except for Japan that are comfortably leading the Group with sixteen points other countries have equal chances for qualifying.

Herve Renard would definitely be under pressure because this is not the Saudi Arabia team we used to know. They have won the Asian Cup title three times and even surprised everyone at the last World Cup when they defeated Argentina. He would have to seek means to improve the performance of the Green Falcons.

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During International break Brazil got unsatisfactory results this because from 2 latest matches they were unable to gets the winning results and after only playing draw from Venezuela several days ago then today Brazil too failed to gets 3 points because they have to playing draw again from Uruguay and this result makes them have to satisfied to collect 18 points and occupy 5th place but they still have good chances to qualified because the difference points between the team on the 2nd place to 5th place is not too far but some fans are starting to complaining about the performance of Vinicius and Raphinha this because they still unable to in form when playing for Brazil

Brazil's results in their last two games were very unsatisfying for a team that boosts of such quality of world class players if you ask me. Against Venezuela, I expected them to get all three points in that game but they went on to draw the game before fighting back from a goal down to draw against Uruguay in their last game. To think that these same Brazil players are the star players in their respective clubs who are delivering great performances weekly is another reason why I think their poor performances with the national team is caused by the poor tactical approaches of the team manager. As a country who's participated in every World Cup tournament, it'll be very shocking to the football world of they fail to qualify for the 2026 edition so they must sit up and improve their performances.

Everyone has the same question as you that Brazilian players play in various famous clubs in Europe and they perform very well for those clubs then why can't Brazil improve with these same players in their national team. The biggest reason here is the lack of a qualified manager. To control such a good team and such good players surely requires a better quality manager which is not available in Brazil at the moment. Brazil have been trying to bring quality players from Europe to their country but they have not been successful in their efforts so far. However, we never expect such a performance from the best team in the world, so they must improve this performance either by changing the manager or changing the strategy.

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Quote from: Lidger on November 20, 2024, 11:12:23 PM

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During International break Brazil got unsatisfactory results this because from 2 latest matches they were unable to gets the winning results and after only playing draw from Venezuela several days ago then today Brazil too failed to gets 3 points because they have to playing draw again from Uruguay and this result makes them have to satisfied to collect 18 points and occupy 5th place but they still have good chances to qualified because the difference points between the team on the 2nd place to 5th place is not too far but some fans are starting to complaining about the performance of Vinicius and Raphinha this because they still unable to in form when playing for Brazil

Brazil's results in their last two games were very unsatisfying for a team that boosts of such quality of world class players if you ask me. Against Venezuela, I expected them to get all three points in that game but they went on to draw the game before fighting back from a goal down to draw against Uruguay in their last game. To think that these same Brazil players are the star players in their respective clubs who are delivering great performances weekly is another reason why I think their poor performances with the national team is caused by the poor tactical approaches of the team manager. As a country who's participated in every World Cup tournament, it'll be very shocking to the football world of they fail to qualify for the 2026 edition so they must sit up and improve their performances.

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Personally, I almost couldn't believe it when I saw the Indonesian national team win last night's match with a score of 2-0 against Saudi Arabia because in their last match against Japan with 0-4, I was convinced that Indonesia would not play this well. Yes, what you say is true, because this is football, of course there are always surprises and of course we should not underestimate a team's performance because of course we very often come across teams that are considered weak but end up winning a match.

Yes, now Indonesia has succeeded in fighting Saudi Arabia and of course this is a good achievement for Indonesia considering that Saudi Arabia is of course very different from Indonesia in the FIFA rankings and Indonesia really performed well in last night's match and until the end of the match it was a shame that Saudi Arabia was unable to score. goal against Indonesia.

Yes, because Indonesia's defense was good, Indonesia was finally able to win and finally Indonesia was able to guard its goal, which in the end, there were no goals scored from Saudi Arabia against Indonesia, but there were so many opportunities created by Saudi Arabia, but unfortunately, Saudi Arabia couldn't take advantage of the opportunities well, yes, score 2- 0 for Indonesia's victory is very impressive.

In the other match, Japan played well and in the end Japan was able to end the match with a 1-3 win. To be honest, I thought Japan would increase their goals to 4 but the Chinese players fought hard to maintain the score.

In the previous match, Indonesia managed to draw when visiting Saudi Arabia with a score of 1-1. So it is not surprising that in the end Indonesia managed to beat Saudi Arabia at the Gelora Bung Karno Main Stadium. Because when Indonesia plays at home, they will get an injection of burning enthusiasm from Garuda supporters, the atmosphere shown by Garuda supporters last night was extraordinary.

And of course this is an extraordinary achievement, this is the first time Indonesia has managed to silence Saudi Arabia in 11 meetings between the two. In last night's match, Indonesia's defense line performed well so that only a little space was given for Saudi Arabia to launch kicks at Indonesia's goal, because it was recorded that out of 23 shots launched by Saudi Arabia, at least only 3 shots were on target. In this match, Indonesia did not dominate the match too much, but the young Garuda managed to maximize every opportunity they got. And Marcelino was the main star in last night's match, he managed to contribute 2 goals in this match.

It seems like yesterday night when the Indonesian national team played against Saudi Arabia, there were definitely quite a few who predicted that Saudi Arabia would win because of course Saudi Arabia is a country that always takes part in the world cup, so of course many people predicted that Saudi Arabia would win and to be honest, personally, before the match started, I predicted that Saudi Arabia would win, but yes, the Indonesian national team showed its greatness to the world that Indonesia was a strong team.

But indeed, if you look at the last meeting between Saudi Arabia and Indonesia before yesterday night's match, the result was a draw when Indonesia was the visiting team, so it is normal for Indonesia to win at home. because the Indonesian fans were very supportive of yesterday night's match.

Yes, it wasn't easy for Indonesia in yesterday night's match, but it looks like Shin Tae-yong succeeded in making a good strategy in that match and it is true that Indonesia was able to take advantage of the opportunity well. Yes, Marselino is the hero and he scored 2 goals for Indonesia and honestly I really like the way he celebrates. Yes, I hope that in the next match when Indonesia plays Australia, Indonesia can win.

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Quote from: Arenga pinnata on November 20, 2024, 11:32:59 AM

All teams still have the same chances. Only Japan seems to be safe in first position. And yes, Japan seems to be going through the Asian zone group stage which looks very easy for Japan. It is very natural that in Asian football we consider Japan to be the king.

I think this meme really fits the current situation in group C, LOL. Grin

In group A and B we have started to see which teams will qualify for the world cup and which teams have the potential to play in the fourth round. But things are different in group C. Japan has ensured their qualification for the world cup because even if Japan loses in the next 4 matches, they will still be in second place. But that would be very, very impossible. Japan only needs 1 more win to really ensure their qualification for the world cup. They can even play their young players or their bench players in the remaining 3 matches.
And on the other hand, the other 5 teams still have to compete with each other. This is really beyond expectations because many thought Indonesia would be the first team to be eliminated because Indonesia is the weakest in group C, even the weakest of all the teams in the third round. As an Indonesian, I am really proud of the struggle of the Indonesian players. I don't expect them to be in 2nd place but I hope Indonesia can at least be in 3-4th position and secure a ticket to the next round.

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Quote from: Palakka on November 20, 2024, 01:08:17 PM

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Current standings of Group C of Asian World Cup qualifier seems easily for Japan secure the first standings position behind the victory over China last night and have 9 points remaining from Australia on the 2nd place by having four matches left. Interested to see who will placed the 2nd position behind several teams have fewest difference points and our national team Indonesia still have opportunity for the first time qualify to World Cup if can secure the second position place.

Indonesia team have two away and home match, its advantage after the victory over Saudi Arabia have opportunity to secure three home points when facing China and Bahrain. But Indonesia have difficult away match against Australia and the top standings team Japan at the last match wish the Japan team will use their second composition after success qualifying to World Cup.

Current standings awhile until games week 6

Indonesian victory over the Arabs, China defeat from Japan and also the draw achieved by Bahrain from Australia have made a fierce competition in Group C at this time happen, in addition to Japan which can be sure to be very safe to qualify automatically to the World Cup as the favorite to win group C, of course there is still one more automatic ticket left that they can fight for at this time, In my opinion, although Australia is currently ranked second with a difference of 1 point, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Australia and also China also have the same chance to be able to qualify automatically and it depends on their performance and consistency later, especially Indonesia, the victory over Arabia has certainly opened up their opportunity to be able to make a new history of qualifying for the World Cup if they are able to achieve positive results in the rest of the matches, especially get 3 points when facing China, Bahrain and maybe even Australia as you said.

Looking at the FIFA rankings, Australia has been the second team after Japan to be predicted to qualify for the World Cup since the beginning. That has happened to Japan, but Australia still has to work hard to do that. Group C is the tightest group so far, in other groups we have seen a picture of who is in positions 1 to 6, but in Group C all teams (2-6) are still wide open to accompany Japan to qualify directly for the World Cup. Indonesia, which was previously considered the weakest team, was able to show that they could also compete and are now in 3rd place.

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During International break Brazil got unsatisfactory results this because from 2 latest matches they were unable to gets the winning results and after only playing draw from Venezuela several days ago then today Brazil too failed to gets 3 points because they have to playing draw again from Uruguay and this result makes them have to satisfied to collect 18 points and occupy 5th place but they still have good chances to qualified because the difference points between the team on the 2nd place to 5th place is not too far but some fans are starting to complaining about the performance of Vinicius and Raphinha this because they still unable to in form when playing for Brazil

Dorival Junior should be fired, what's the point of include Igor Jesus in starting lineup? they have Gabriel Jesus, Endrick and Richarlison, while Igor Jesus is playing in shit team in shit league with shit performance.

Raphinha is a great player in this season, but his main position was a left winger, while in Brazil he forced to play as an attacking midfielder.

Draw is a bad result, they should have won.

Brazil is a shit club now. They have a lot of great players but their coach and coaching staff are terrible. They must be feel shameful when they got dozens of great players, but unable to maximize them all. It's worsen when they played raphinha as a left back, and what the heck is dorival doing?

It's getting harder to find the spirit to watch any Brazilian games. They never made improvements. Apparently, the current squad is Brazil's worst team in years. It has good players, but no respectable leaders and it made them being so clueless.

It's very disappointing to see Uruguay fail to beat them. Uruguay could have helped to get rid of Dorival after they lost the game.

Brazil won the last match so I expected Brazil to win their next match but the result of the next match did not go in favor of Brazil in that match Brazil drew 1-1. Against Uruguay, Brazil seemed to struggle more and at times I felt like maybe Brazil would lose to Uruguay. This was Brazil's last match this year but the Brazilian team did not do very well on the last night of the year. However, while Brazil disappointed the fans, Argentina did not let the fans down as Argentina secured full points in their last match. Brazil and Argentina will have to enter the field with many new plans in the new year. Although Argentina's performance is quite good, on the contrary, Brazil's performance is quite weak. If changing the manager improves Brazil's game then the CBF will definitely try to change the manager.

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Indonesian victory over the Arabs, China defeat from Japan and also the draw achieved by Bahrain from Australia have made a fierce competition in Group C at this time happen, in addition to Japan which can be sure to be very safe to qualify automatically to the World Cup as the favorite to win group C, of course there is still one more automatic ticket left that they can fight for at this time, In my opinion, although Australia is currently ranked second with a difference of 1 point, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Australia and also China also have the same chance to be able to qualify automatically and it depends on their performance and consistency later, especially Indonesia, the victory over Arabia has certainly opened up their opportunity to be able to make a new history of qualifying for the World Cup if they are able to achieve positive results in the rest of the matches, especially get 3 points when facing China, Bahrain and maybe even Australia as you said.

The top two teams in the points table will qualify. But the third and fourth placed teams will have to play the playoffs. Japan will occupy the top spot in the table. However, there is a possibility that the positions of the second, third and fourth placed teams in the points table will change.

We have been seeing Indonesia at the bottom of the table for a long time. But unexpectedly, Indonesia was able to win against Saudi Arabia. And at the moment, Indonesia is in third place in the table. If Indonesia can maintain its stable performance in the coming matches, Indonesia has the possibility of occupying the second spot in the table. However, the teams in third to sixth place in the points table have each earned 6 points from 6 matches. And Australia is only 1 point ahead.

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Quote from: baeva on November 20, 2024, 03:47:01 PM

Though let's face it, if selected, they are unlikely to even make it out of the group. It's too early to tell though, they haven't even selected yet

I don't think their goal is that high to begin with. Participating in a world cup is a new experience for them, even participating in the third-round/fourth-round is a new record already. I believe the goal is to improve their rank and attract interest from many parties to improve the domestic competition. Afterall qualifying for the world-cup means nothing if there's no improvement with their domestic competition/training program.

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 20, 2024, 03:31:37 PM

We know Indonesia even lost games against weaker teams in this tournament, like China, but this time, their performance was surprising, and now Saudi Arabia's coach is definitely under premiere because of this result.

I believe a pundit blamed the strategy for that result. I remember seeing the line-up changed and people claimed that STY was experimenting against China, which bit him because they lost the game. Hopefully, they won't do the same and treat each game as final now.

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Right, Both teams played well in this match and that match was very interesting match of that tournament and we enjoyed that match very much because both teams played well in this match and no team was behind in this match and no team was away . But I will give credit to Al Jabar because he did excellent in this match and he did two goals in this match and played vital role in this match when his team needed that kind of performance but in the end Australia International Football team because successful to do second goal and they became successful to draw the match. I really enjoyed that match due to best players in this match.Yengi also gave excellent performance in this match and he did 2 goals and last goal was brilliant and he changed his team fate.

They became the main stars of this match, Yengi was able to provide an extraordinary surprise by scoring a goal in the early minutes of the match which was able to put extraordinary pressure on the Bahrain players. And Yengi became the savior in this match, Yengi managed to equalize in the final minutes of the match. He is a young player who is quite talented because from the 8 matches he participated in with the Dutch national team, Yengi was recorded as being able to contribute 6 goals for Australia.

As for Al Jabar, as a striker in the third round of qualifying matches, Al Jabar performed poorly in several matches, he had not contributed a goal to Bahrain at all, but in the match against Australia he showed his fangs again with 2 goals he contributed in the match against Australia. So surprising, because both goals were scored in just a few minutes.

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Current standings of Group C of Asian World Cup qualifier seems easily for Japan secure the first standings position behind the victory over China last night and have 9 points remaining from Australia on the 2nd place by having four matches left. Interested to see who will placed the 2nd position behind several teams have fewest difference points and our national team Indonesia still have opportunity for the first time qualify to World Cup if can secure the second position place.

Indonesia team have two away and home match, its advantage after the victory over Saudi Arabia have opportunity to secure three home points when facing China and Bahrain. But Indonesia have difficult away match against Australia and the top standings team Japan at the last match wish the Japan team will use their second composition after success qualifying to World Cup.

Current standings awhile until games week 6

Indonesian victory over the Arabs, China defeat from Japan and also the draw achieved by Bahrain from Australia have made a fierce competition in Group C at this time happen, in addition to Japan which can be sure to be very safe to qualify automatically to the World Cup as the favorite to win group C, of course there is still one more automatic ticket left that they can fight for at this time, In my opinion, although Australia is currently ranked second with a difference of 1 point, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Australia and also China also have the same chance to be able to qualify automatically and it depends on their performance and consistency later, especially Indonesia, the victory over Arabia has certainly opened up their opportunity to be able to make a new history of qualifying for the World Cup if they are able to achieve positive results in the rest of the matches, especially get 3 points when facing China, Bahrain and maybe even Australia as you said.

It is hoped that they will not be pressurised by the great responsibility and will be able to perform adequately. Historical moments are always appreciated and if they can qualify for the World Cup, maybe they will create a new history for themselves. Though let's face it, if selected, they are unlikely to even make it out of the group. It's too early to tell though, they haven't even selected yet

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Advantage in what? just because their last match against Saudi Arabia was end in draw and it was played in Saudi Arabia's home, it doesn't mean an advantage in the upcoming match. They were just lucky, Saudi Arabia should have won that match and this match, Saudi Arabia will revenge them.

Let's predict the score, 1-0 favor on Saudi Arabia.

Well actually that result should be the most reasonable. But because this is football and nothing should be underestimated. And now I can hardly believe it when I see Saudi Arabia trailing by 2 goals by Indonesia. Maybe Saudi Arabia still has a chance to equalize the score but I think that Indonesia's defense is strong enough to be penetrated in this match.

In another match, China looks like they will lose to Japan because the current score is quite different, namely 1-3 and I think Japan could increase their advantage in the ongoing match.

Personally, I almost couldn't believe it when I saw the Indonesian national team win last night's match with a score of 2-0 against Saudi Arabia because in their last match against Japan with 0-4, I was convinced that Indonesia would not play this well. Yes, what you say is true, because this is football, of course there are always surprises and of course we should not underestimate a team's performance because of course we very often come across teams that are considered weak but end up winning a match.

Yes, now Indonesia has succeeded in fighting Saudi Arabia and of course this is a good achievement for Indonesia considering that Saudi Arabia is of course very different from Indonesia in the FIFA rankings and Indonesia really performed well in last night's match and until the end of the match it was a shame that Saudi Arabia was unable to score. goal against Indonesia.

Yes, because Indonesia's defense was good, Indonesia was finally able to win and finally Indonesia was able to guard its goal, which in the end, there were no goals scored from Saudi Arabia against Indonesia, but there were so many opportunities created by Saudi Arabia, but unfortunately, Saudi Arabia couldn't take advantage of the opportunities well, yes, score 2- 0 for Indonesia's victory is very impressive.

In the other match, Japan played well and in the end Japan was able to end the match with a 1-3 win. To be honest, I thought Japan would increase their goals to 4 but the Chinese players fought hard to maintain the score.

I could never predict that Indonesia would win the game against Saudi Arabia. However, we can't expect them to win all the games just because they spent a huge amount of money on their team. Saudi Arabia is still a much better team than a team like Indonesia.
We know Indonesia even lost games against weaker teams in this tournament, like China, but this time, their performance was surprising, and now Saudi Arabia's coach is definitely under premiere because of this result.

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Quote from: Adiljutt156 on November 20, 2024, 02:01:43 PM

Right, Both teams played well in this match and that match was very interesting match of that tournament and we enjoyed that match very much because both teams played well in this match and no team was behind in this match and no team was away . But I will give credit to Al Jabar because he did excellent in this match and he did two goals in this match and played vital role in this match when his team needed that kind of performance but in the end Australia International Football team because successful to do second goal and they became successful to draw the match. I really enjoyed that match due to best players in this match.Yengi also gave excellent performance in this match and he did 2 goals and last goal was brilliant and he changed his team fate.

The match was indeed quite dramatic, where Australia initially scored a goal in the first minute and managed to maintain it until the end of the first half. And even at the start of the second half we still saw that Australia was still able to maintain its lead. But in the 75th minute Bahrain managed to make it equal, namely 1-1. And this is where the excitement becomes even more pronounced. Moreover, after 2 minutes it turned out that Bahrain scored another goal so that Bahrain managed to turn the situation around to 2-1 at that time. And I'm sure everyone initially thought Australia would win. But then in the second half after Bahrain took a 2-1 lead I'm sure everyone started to think they would win because after 90 minutes had passed and extra minutes had passed Bahrain were still ahead. But it turned out that Australia actually made a surprise by managing to equalize the score in the 90+6 minute. yeah, this is quite dramatic and exciting. And I agree both teams played equally well. Although if I conclude that Australia played more disciplined and better.

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Quote from: Akbarkoe on November 19, 2024, 03:36:49 PM

The match almost ended disappointingly for Australia. They had a 1-0 lead in the first half and held on until the 74th minute. And the unexpected happened because in less than five minutes Bahrain managed to score two goals against Australia.

Australia failed to maintain its lead, several Australian defenders made blunders that left them one goal behind Bahrain. The drama carried out by Bahraini players continued to occur until time was wasted, but fortunately the referee gave a long additional time in this match, the referee gave an additional 10 minutes, in the last ten minutes Australia continued to increase the tempo of the game and in the 90+6 minute Australia finally equalized to 2-2. And both teams had to be willing to share points.

Right, Both teams played well in this match and that match was very interesting match of that tournament and we enjoyed that match very much because both teams played well in this match and no team was behind in this match and no team was away . But I will give credit to Al Jabar because he did excellent in this match and he did two goals in this match and played vital role in this match when his team needed that kind of performance but in the end Australia International Football team because successful to do second goal and they became successful to draw the match. I really enjoyed that match due to best players in this match.Yengi also gave excellent performance in this match and he did 2 goals and last goal was brilliant and he changed his team fate.

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Quote from: armanda90 on November 19, 2024, 10:14:05 PM

Current standings of Group C of Asian World Cup qualifier seems easily for Japan secure the first standings position behind the victory over China last night and have 9 points remaining from Australia on the 2nd place by having four matches left. Interested to see who will placed the 2nd position behind several teams have fewest difference points and our national team Indonesia still have opportunity for the first time qualify to World Cup if can secure the second position place.

Indonesia team have two away and home match, its advantage after the victory over Saudi Arabia have opportunity to secure three home points when facing China and Bahrain. But Indonesia have difficult away match against Australia and the top standings team Japan at the last match wish the Japan team will use their second composition after success qualifying to World Cup.

Current standings awhile until games week 6

Indonesian victory over the Arabs, China defeat from Japan and also the draw achieved by Bahrain from Australia have made a fierce competition in Group C at this time happen, in addition to Japan which can be sure to be very safe to qualify automatically to the World Cup as the favorite to win group C, of course there is still one more automatic ticket left that they can fight for at this time, In my opinion, although Australia is currently ranked second with a difference of 1 point, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Australia and also China also have the same chance to be able to qualify automatically and it depends on their performance and consistency later, especially Indonesia, the victory over Arabia has certainly opened up their opportunity to be able to make a new history of qualifying for the World Cup if they are able to achieve positive results in the rest of the matches, especially get 3 points when facing China, Bahrain and maybe even Australia as you said.

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Quote from: Arenga pinnata on November 20, 2024, 11:32:59 AM

Seeing that Indonesia still has hope after beating Saudi Arabia really makes us excited this time. It's just that Indonesia cannot experience defeat and must win when facing China or Bahrain. And Indonesia can also at least get a draw when they face Japan or Australia later. Because if Indonesia loses points then I think Indonesia's chances will fade. Because clearly there is no significant difference in points. All teams still have the same chances. Only Japan seems to be safe in first position. And yes, Japan seems to be going through the Asian zone group stage which looks very easy for Japan. It is very natural that in Asian football we consider Japan to be the king.

But beating China and Bahrain is actually not an easy matter. Because Australia almost lost to Bahrian in yesterday's match. Luckily Australia managed to score an equalizer in the added minute of stoppage time. And made Bahrain fail to get full points.
And about China I think they are also quite extraordinary. Because even though they lost, they managed to score 1 goal against Japan, which means their attack level could be said to be better than Indonesia. But hopefully Indonesia can continue to win and qualify for the World Cup.

But actually it was unexpected to see Indonesia win against Saudi Arabia without conceding a single goal. Saudi Arabia played well and created many opportunities, but they seemed unlucky in this match because they continued to fail to take advantage of the good opportunities they got.

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Both of them played well and balanced. However the results are already full time where Indonesia won with a score of 2-0. Automatically Indonesia with this victory has given a little comfort because it is in third sequence even though it can change depending on the Bahrain vs Australia match which will be played in a matter of hours later.

For Indonesia, at least the match between Bahrain vs Australia is better to draw. If it draws, the Bahrain point will be the same as Indonesia which is 6 points. While Australia will get 7 points. The difference in points with Australia is still possible to continue to be pursued even though Indonesia must play an away match against Australia.

Indonesia has not won in the last 5 matches. Even in the last two matches, Indonesia lost against China and Japan. Moreover, the Indonesian team is not very strong. So in this match, I thought that I would see Saudi Arabia win. But the Indonesian team won the match 2-0.

Never winning because they were only able to draw and finally lost due to a little drama made by the referee is a real result that we can see experienced by Indonesia. However, when playing against Saudi Arabia, Indonesia was able to win where initially many people predicted that Indonesia would not be able to beat the Saudi Arabian team with a score of 2-0.
The victory was very beneficial for Indonesia because Australia failed to win against Bahrain.

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Saudi Arabia players attacked a lot in this match. Probably, Saudi Arabia players made a total of 23 shots. But even then, Saudi Arabia could not score a single goal. There is no doubt that Indonesia's defenders and goalkeeper performed well in this match. Otherwise, Indonesia would have conceded several goals today.

Saudi Arabia was late in taking advantage of their opportunities which had the advantage of body posture. They should have been able to play the ball high from the start of the match but they failed because Indonesia's defense was quite solid.

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Quote from: armanda90 on November 19, 2024, 10:14:05 PM

Current standings of Group C of Asian World Cup qualifier seems easily for Japan secure the first standings position behind the victory over China last night and have 9 points remaining from Australia on the 2nd place by having four matches left. Interested to see who will placed the 2nd position behind several teams have fewest difference points and our national team Indonesia still have opportunity for the first time qualify to World Cup if can secure the second position place.

Indonesia team have two away and home match, its advantage after the victory over Saudi Arabia have opportunity to secure three home points when facing China and Bahrain. But Indonesia have difficult away match against Australia and the top standings team Japan at the last match wish the Japan team will use their second composition after success qualifying to World Cup.

Current standings awhile until games week 6

Seeing that Indonesia still has hope after beating Saudi Arabia really makes us excited this time. It's just that Indonesia cannot experience defeat and must win when facing China or Bahrain. And Indonesia can also at least get a draw when they face Japan or Australia later. Because if Indonesia loses points then I think Indonesia's chances will fade. Because clearly there is no significant difference in points. All teams still have the same chances. Only Japan seems to be safe in first position. And yes, Japan seems to be going through the Asian zone group stage which looks very easy for Japan. It is very natural that in Asian football we consider Japan to be the king.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on November 20, 2024, 11:06:18 AM

Yes, Indonesia must be better than before and never be satisfied with a good performance, and in the remaining matches of the world cup qualifiers Indonesia will still face Australia, Bahrain, China and Japan. And in the previous match Indonesia only got a draw against Australia and Bahrain, and I hope they get good results in the match. And Indonesia also got a defeat against China and Japan, and in my opinion Indonesia should have won in the match against China yesterday besides dominating the game I saw Indonesia's attack was not good and also I didn't see Marselino Ferdinan on the field because he is a great player, to discuss Japan I don't have much comment because Japan has never lost and is at the top of the standings for group C.

Asian zone qualification in group C is probably the most exciting. Look at the same points obtained by 4 teams and Australia which only has a difference of 1 point from the others. Only Japan is very strong and undefeated. This means that there will be many possibilities and opportunities for each team to shift each other's places in the standings in the next match. I think what is beyond expectations in this group is the performance of Saudi Arabia and Australia. All will not only compete for victory points but try to compete with the number of goals and fewer goals conceded. It is not impossible that in the decisive match, we will see these teams will be determined based on the number of goals because of the same points obtained.

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