Topic: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 16. (Read 62555 times)

But for this match China was very lucky because Indonesia game was very dominant in possession of the ball but made many mistakes, in some conditions Indonesian players often ignored certain positions which created empty spaces and Indonesian players also made mistakes with inappropriate decision making.
Only Indonesian player who I think always performed less than optimally was Witan but he played from the start in the match against China, usually Witan always sat on the bench and if he played it was in the final minutes, I was quite disappointed with Shin Tae-yong decision in using the line-up, it should have been like before which prioritized naturalized players to enter at the beginning.
But everything has happened and Indonesia game is very unsatisfactory, they can't really penetrate China defense which is always full at the back when Indonesia makes an attack attempt, I lost my bet from the defeat with score of 2 - 1.

China took advantage of the opportunity and managed to steal a goal, but STY, who is the head coach of the Indonesian National Team, was too optimistic to play Shayne Pattynama, Witan Sulaeman, Asnawi Mangkualam, Mees Hilgers, and in the end in the first half the game was not so good, when the second half the four players were pulled it was clear that the game was getting more lively when Rizky Ridho, Pratama Arhan, Thom Haye and Marselino Ferdinan, played all changed drastically even though STY did not play the 4 players as starters at least this could be a lesson for STY and at least Indonesia's performance was good enough, although to reach position 2 in the standings it was only a few percent, but that is if Indonesia is able to defeat Japan in November even though it is difficult at least the opportunity for position 2 can be achieved by Indonesia to qualify directly for the World Cup, without having to enter the 4th round of the World Cup qualification.

China surprised us in 1st half. Their team is solid to build attack and mess up the Indonesia strategy.
In other side, Indonesia defense is look bad, I watch several time Indonesia defender let a ball flow to china attacker and off the field without make an effort to guard it.
I think this match is appropriate to china, they played very well, and Indonesia must fix the coordination team if they want still road on world cup 2026.
there's nothing to blame at this time beside Indonesia team self.

I was bets on Indonesia today and they have good odds approximatelly @2.21 but unfortunately they were lost today and at the lineup we can see it that Indonesia manager Shin Tae-yong did several changes into Indonesian squad and the players such as Asnawi Mangkualam and Shayne Pattynama who did not play in the previous match were played since the beginning of matches but these players didn't performing well because they did some mistakes which makes Indonesia have to conceded 2 goals in the first half

Actually Shin Tae-yong has been realize that his strategy didn't run well so that's why at the second half he did several changes and actually after replace some players Indonesia was performing better and they can dominate the match but apparently it was late because after leading the game China has decide to playing more defensive which makes Indonesian players not gets much opportunities to scores

This result make Indonesia failed to gets their first winning in this competition and Indonesia journey to qualified to the next round will be more difficult especially they have to facing the teams such as Japan, Saudi Arabia and Bahrain at their home ground but as long as Indonesia not lost from these teams and if possible can win from them then i am sure Indonesia at least will finish at 3rd place or 4th place

Before the match started, actually Indonesia had great hopes to get their first 3 points from China, remembering China's poor performance in some of their previous matches, but precisely what I feared before also happened after seeing China ambition and also China game in the match, although actually Indonesia was able to control the game and continue to pressure China, but they forgot that China counterattack was actually very dangerous.
Today match should be a lesson for Shin Tae-yong who in my opinion actually underestimates China by experimenting with formation in the match, after consecutive draws against strong teams, I dont why did Shin Tae-yong use a 5-back formation when they needed 3 points in the match, even though, the formation when facing Bahrain is actually quite capable in attacking and defending ?
In the second half, Shin Tae-yong changed the formation of the game by inserting several players who had attacking abilities but unfortunately that is has too late for Indonesian .

Every country deserves to win. In the recent times football has taken a different direction whereby the weaker countries which could not defeat their opponent in those days are now playing well. All is determination and providing a good squad in the National Team. I didn't watch the Match but normally China always tried their best in the National Team but their defence is not good enough to protect the area. And Indonesia too is also a good team but when there is no luck on your side, you lose. Like the coach of the Black Stars in Ghana was paranoid with the players when they could not scored Niger Republic, but he has to know that Niger Republic is a country which means they are also training everytime when they are planning to play with another country and also change players to be fit the team.

I believed this world cup will be an another interesting one to watch I will not like to miss any game.

Your doubts seem to have come true, friend. Because the Indonesian national team experienced a narrow defeat by China. And as you said the Indonesian national team lost its consistency in the first half. And their performance only returned in the second half when they were already 2 goals behind from the first half. For those of us who support the Indonesian national team, of course this result is quite painful. But China deserved to win the match. because their defense was quite solid in that match. It seems like China has learned a lot since they experienced consecutive defeats against other teams before Indonesia.

South Korea managed to win the match against Iraq as expected from South Korea, which has always been quite consistent with its strength. But unfortunately for the Japan vs Australia match, it turned out that Japan failed to get full points because they were held to a draw by Australia.

I am not that following closely what's happening in Asian Qualifiers but I do thought Indonesia to win against China and Japan to win against Australia. That turned up to be false in both games.
South Korea to win against Iraq is something that would be expected but I am not that sure because Iraqis aren't that bad in football.

No good end for the Indonesia team as they have draw against Australia and Saudi Arab with things were favourable for them to have their first win improvement in chances for staying into hunt for the fourth stage qualification, but we have not good finishing from them in second half while they were in better position and completely control of the game.

China which were having not good performance in their first three games done good work and have two early goals which help them for having staying into hunt for their first win of the third stage matches with this win China is still at the bottom and Indonesia is now having their next game Japan is surely not good because now things can turn into bad for them while China will visit Bahrain for their next game.

Congratulations to China for their first win after successfully beating the Indonesian national team with a score of 2-1. In this match, China showed a fairly strong defense. And I also saw Indonesia fighting very hard, especially in the second half. In the first half Indonesia did not play very well but in the second half Indonesia played very well. Unfortunately, Indonesia was only able to reply with 1 goal in the second half.

And for the other match today, Japan was held to a draw by Australia. And I think this result is not that surprising considering that Japan and Australia are two equally strong teams. And in another match, South Korea managed to beat Iraq.
And the matches currently taking place are Kyrgyzstan vs North Korea and Uzbekistan vs United Arab Emirates.

As I expected, the Indonesian coach immediately put in some of his players at the beginning of the second half. and that managed to change their game to be stronger. Indonesia did play a tight-pressure game. but China's defense must be admitted to be very strong.
this is football, those who are behind will improve their game. and those who are superior will slow down the tempo of the game. that's what we see now in the China vs Indonesia match.
Indonesia also managed to score 1 goal even though it had to admit China's superiority this time. not a bad match. these teams are indeed past until the 3rd round of qualification.

Sorry for your lost as things are turning good for the Australia after having change of coach which bring win and draw against table topper Japan in today game we have two own goals by both teams which bring this match ended on draw even Japan was in full control but still they fail to deliver and keep their streak of wins now they are still leading the table and have good chance of staying at the top, but things were good for the Australia in this game as they have good defense which helps them for having good 1 point in this game.

Comfortable win for the South Korea as they won this game by 3–2 and now have top spot into their group Iraq which is also good team have first defeat of their third stage matches but most chances they will keep things on good level and chances are also high for them to have second spot in this group.

Well that's right. I got a little carried away at the moment. Because Indonesia doesn't play like usual. Or maybe because I expected too much from this match. Seeing Indonesia succeed in holding Saudi Arabia, Australia and Bahrain to a draw makes me think that Indonesia should also be able to do the same in the match against China. But what happened was beyond my expectations.

And honestly, I appreciate China because when they get the opportunity to attack, they immediately do it quickly and quite effectively. But the Indonesian national team could actually play more than this if they could play a little more calmly. Because it seems like Indonesia was a little hasty from the start.

No one underestimates, the Indonesian coach himself has mentioned that China has a good team, and in terms of ranking, they are above Indonesia. so it is natural that there is an advantage at this time.
but I agree with you that there is something wrong with Indonesia's defense. so is China's defense which I think is quite good. they are not like the previous matches. maybe because they are playing at home and also they have the motivation to win because they have always lost before.
a difficult match for Indonesia, but there is still a chance. maybe they will make some changes in the second half by replacing some players.

The China vs Indonesia match in the first half has ended and China unexpectedly managed to lead 2-0 in the first half. I seemed quite surprised by Indonesia's defense which was really weakened unlike usual. I feel that the Indonesian national team underestimated China a little in this match and as a result the Indonesian national team's defense was careless when they were too focused on building attacks. And China has managed to make good use of it. If the Indonesian national team is unable to respond to the 2 goals that China managed to score, then Indonesia will likely have no hope of being able to go any further. Although we wish they could go further. I was quite disappointed with the results of the first half. And I hope that in the second half Indonesia can correct their mistakes.

I'm avoiding China and Indonesia, that match has 0-0 written all over it, or 3-0 to Indonesia lol


Show us your combo bet. Here is mine, minus Indonesia tho



Australia and Iraq are quite strong teams so the odds for South Korea and Japan are really showing that the sportsbooks are respecting these 2 footballing countries a lot

Match starting soon, enjoy guys!

I think It their own fault that they don't play well and not work hard. I would prefer a team that plays well and wins matches. But these two are not involved.See Indonesia is play well, the reason behind it is that they play work hard and smart, if they don't take interest in the game, it will be their own fault.They should start work hard and playing well from now, then they will start perform well in the match.Indonesia will perform well and they will step towards victory in every match.  But I am worried about China, what performance they will see when they are not capable of it.

In my opinion, Indonesia's victory is greater even though China is acting as the host in this match. I do not underestimate the Chinese squad even though Indonesia can be said to be a team that is still new to the World Cup qualifiers. Even the Japanese coach said that Indonesia has the opportunity to qualify for the World Cup this time.
After three matches, Indonesia is much better than China and this is a real result.

I predict that Indonesia will win this match and will change its position in the standings because Bahrain's chances of losing to Saudi Arabia are very high. Japan in the match against Australia also has a chance to win although I think a draw is very possible.

China, which has the advantage of being the host, really cannot be underestimated at all. Even though the depth of the Indonesian national team squad is considered to be better, we know that sometimes Indonesia does not play very consistently. I hope Indonesia wins and of course bet on Indonesia. Although I still have doubts about the results of the match. Another match that seems quite easy for us to predict is the South Korea vs Iraq match. And maybe Japan will also be favored in the match against Australia. But because Australia is also a team whose strength is really taken into account, I think Japan will have a little difficulty in playing against Australia. But the inconsistency of the Australian squad should still allow Japan to win the match.

For sure China would not let be Indonesia won easyly. They will fight struggle to avoid shamed from their fans. On the paper Indonesia composition Player is more stronger than China. The odds is leaning toward to Indonesia , but we muat not be carefull the game will end with draw because Indonesia often do that, it's not impossible they can repeat it again to night.

I also played combo bet for Indonesia, Japan, and korea beside single bet for Indonesia.