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But there is something I didn't really understand. Wasn't Saudi Arabia full into the race for the World Cup 2030? I thought that was one of the main reasons why they signed Ronaldo and all those players for so much money. As far as I understood, wasn't it their initiative to convince the committee and get public support to become the hosts?

Regarding the number of countries and continents involved, I think it isn't a bad thing. Imagine how many people only get to see one World Cup in their home country once in a lifetime, if at all. This solution caters to more people getting the opportunity to become witnesses of a major sports event in their home country.

In particular, I didn't think it was possible for Saudi Arabia to host the 2030 World Cup, since the last one was held very close by, in Qatar

2018 - Europe-Asia
2022 - Asia
2026 - North America - Central America
2030 - Europe-Africa (and 3 games in South America)

It's possible that Arabia could bid again for 2034 and could have a chance along with Oceania or South America.

My opinion is that it wasn't a bad decision either, after all the people of South America will have a great opportunity to watch at least one World Cup match without having to travel to Europe/Africa


You actually raised a good point here and I didn't think about that before. But I think there was more to that because initially Saudi Arabia was indeed planning to bid for the World Cup 2030 I think in cooperation with Egypt and Greece or something? But for some reason (not sure if it was political) one of them or even both withdrew and that might also have been the reason that Saudi Arabia stepped back.

As for 2034, the FIFA already announced that the Asian Football Confederation and Oceania Football Confederation will be eligible to bid.
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But there is something I didn't really understand. Wasn't Saudi Arabia full into the race for the World Cup 2030? I thought that was one of the main reasons why they signed Ronaldo and all those players for so much money. As far as I understood, wasn't it their initiative to convince the committee and get public support to become the hosts?

Regarding the number of countries and continents involved, I think it isn't a bad thing. Imagine how many people only get to see one World Cup in their home country once in a lifetime, if at all. This solution caters to more people getting the opportunity to become witnesses of a major sports event in their home country.

In particular, I didn't think it was possible for Saudi Arabia to host the 2030 World Cup, since the last one was held very close by, in Qatar

2018 - Europe-Asia
2022 - Asia
2026 - North America - Central America
2030 - Europe-Africa (and 3 games in South America)

It's possible that Arabia could bid again for 2034 and could have a chance along with Oceania or South America.

My opinion is that it wasn't a bad decision either, after all the people of South America will have a great opportunity to watch at least one World Cup match without having to travel to Europe/Africa



After my post about the stadiums: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62891459

I have another news, this time for the 2026 World Cup

The choice of the final stadium is now between 2 stadiums, Los Angeles has already been ruled out
New Jersey and Dallas are now the possible stadiums of the final, after Fifa members visited the stadiums in NFL games

I think they are going to choose Dallas, and you guys?
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2026 is still three years away. Do you believe that Messi would still be motivated to take part in the next world cup? He has achieved whatever he wanted to achieve in football. So why should he carry on playing anymore? Lionel Scaloni may want him in the squad, but even if he includes him a lot of questions will be asked. Another factor that may impact his participation is the fact that Messi no longer plays in one of the stronger leagues. At this point he represents Inter Miami, in Major League Soccer (MLS).
Will where he plays really influence the Argentine coach's decision to call him or not? I think not because Scaloni probably saw something else when calling him up but the question remains does Messi still want to play for Argentina? I was quite doubtful about that because he didn't look like a person who was very ambitious about setting records and so on, so when he didn't play in the next world cup it wasn't because he wasn't called up by the Argentine coach but because he chose to completely retire from the national team of his country, regarding all the achievements he has achieved while Ronaldo may still hope to play in the world cup to get it.
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This Lionel Sebastián Scaloni can't be sure even about himself if he can sit and coach Argentina in the next World Cup in 2026 or not.
We are talking about the next two years and everything is possible, for example, if Messi gets injured during this time, I'm sure there will be more chance to win this palyer in the 2026 world cup and it's still soon to say if he can play there or not.

Scaloni has been coaching the Argentine squad ever since 2018, and they have performed credibly under him. It is not just the World Cup win in 2022, but Argentina made some sort of a comeback during the last 3-4 years under Scaloni. Now they are the no.1 ranked side in the world. They do have exceptionally good players such as Lionel Messi and Emiliano Martínez, but the contribution from Scaloni in building the team bonding and tactics can't be ignored. Even for the 2026 tournament, they will be the most favored team to lift the trophy, with or without Messi.
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The 2030 FIFA World Cup has been awarded to be co-hosted by Portugal, Spain and Morocco but the opening matches of the tournament will be played in Uruguay, Argentina and Paraguay and that's to the centenary anniversary of the FIFA World Cup which was first hosted in Uruguay.
FIFA in their statement said that they'll only accept bids for 2034 World Cup from countries in Asian Football Federation and Oceania Football Federation and that was the reason why Saudi Arabia had announced that they'll be bidding for the 2034 world Cup. It's not yet confirmed but it's believed that they're strong contenders to win the bid
I don't know what crazy ideas from FIFA when getting host for upcoming World Cup 2030 with three national teams become the host and the opening matches play in difference countries host. Better make World Cup with single country host and give much opportunity for other national team qualify or participating in World Cup. Bad thing happen if have three of host close opportunity with other country qualifying or participating in World Cup because three host of World Cup automatically will get participants without qualifying round. Another an acceptable when host with difference continent and how difficult after knock out stage some national teams need time for playing in different continent. I think FIFA should realistic with upcoming World Cup edition don't take fee commission only but think how to make World Cup can easily for all participant teams.
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But there is something I didn't really understand. Wasn't Saudi Arabia full into the race for the World Cup 2030? I thought that was one of the main reasons why they signed Ronaldo and all those players for so much money. As far as I understood, wasn't it their initiative to convince the committee and get public support to become the hosts?

Regarding the number of countries and continents involved, I think it isn't a bad thing. Imagine how many people only get to see one World Cup in their home country once in a lifetime, if at all. This solution caters to more people getting the opportunity to become witnesses of a major sports event in their home country.
Maybe Saudi Arabia have got the plans to host the 2030 FIFA World Cup and as a preparation they're much focused in making the Saudi Arabia Pro League popular and have signed popular players. The reality is different, it is the FIFA to decide the host. 2022 FIFA hosted by West Asia country Qatar and once again the 2030 FIFA World Cup by another West Asia Country Saudi Arabia won't be considered that easily.

The plan for the matches to be hosted in three continents and 6 countries is simply different. However the opportunity provided for the small nations to watch FIFA matches on their home country is something great for them and welcoming move from FIFA.

Ok now I see that their planning for the bid for the World Cup 2030 ceased this June. But what I didn't know is that Saudi Arabia will probably host the 2023 FIFA Club World Cup and the 2027 AFC Asian Cup and they immediately announced that their bid will be prepared for the World Cup 2034 as the FIFA already announced that the World Cup will take place in Asia or Oceania region.

This would give them another 10 years to boost their Saudi Professional League further and then go all out when they indeed become the hosts for those World Cup. The point is that the more players they sign with huge followings, the harder it becomes for the FIFA to reject their bid. These guys are strategists in and out and I expect them to pump money into soccer relentlessly until then.
The 2030 FIFA World Cup has been awarded to be co-hosted by Portugal, Spain and Morocco but the opening matches of the tournament will be played in Uruguay, Argentina and Paraguay and that's to the centenary anniversary of the FIFA World Cup which was first hosted in Uruguay.
FIFA in their statement said that they'll only accept bids for 2034 World Cup from countries in Asian Football Federation and Oceania Football Federation and that was the reason why Saudi Arabia had announced that they'll be bidding for the 2034 world Cup. It's not yet confirmed but it's believed that they're strong contenders to win the bid
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Surely letting Messi play in the next World Cup will not be good for Argentine and their team because even if we consider Messi can have a good performance in when he is a 39 year old palyer, but still, Argentine should give more space to the younger players and let them play to see better performance from them in the next years.

In the end, it will depend on whether Messi wants to play or not. I am 80% sure that he will pull out of the tournament and may retire from active football much before 2026. Right now he has a deal with one of the MLS clubs and I am not sure whether he will extend that deal or not. In case he doesn't retire by then, the Argentine coach will be in a lot of dilemma. If he prefers some of the younger player ahead of Messi, and if that player doesn't perform well, then he will be in a lot of trouble. We all know what happened to Fernando Santos after Qatar 2022.

I don't see Messi as a player that will retire in the next two years. He might not be playing in a top league recently but his performance is still high. He has helped to change the fortune of a relatively unknown club. Argentina's national team coach made it clear immediately after the team won the World Cup that Messi is always welcomed in the national team. Coach Lionel Sebastián Scaloni understands that Messi's experience will always benefit the team and he can serve as a form of motivation even if his performance reduces. I foresee that unless Messi is injured or faces any other problems, he will be given the privilege of joining the world champion for the next World Cup. I don't also think that he is taking the space of younger players rather he will be on the team to guide them and also assist the coach in some ways. Age isn't always a barrier to some players they are just special.

This Lionel Sebastián Scaloni can't be sure even about himself if he can sit and coach Argentina in the next World Cup in 2026 or not.
We are talking about the next two years and everything is possible, for example, if Messi gets injured during this time, I'm sure there will be more chance to win this palyer in the 2026 world cup and it's still soon to say if he can play there or not.
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But there is something I didn't really understand. Wasn't Saudi Arabia full into the race for the World Cup 2030? I thought that was one of the main reasons why they signed Ronaldo and all those players for so much money. As far as I understood, wasn't it their initiative to convince the committee and get public support to become the hosts?

Regarding the number of countries and continents involved, I think it isn't a bad thing. Imagine how many people only get to see one World Cup in their home country once in a lifetime, if at all. This solution caters to more people getting the opportunity to become witnesses of a major sports event in their home country.
Maybe Saudi Arabia have got the plans to host the 2030 FIFA World Cup and as a preparation they're much focused in making the Saudi Arabia Pro League popular and have signed popular players. The reality is different, it is the FIFA to decide the host. 2022 FIFA hosted by West Asia country Qatar and once again the 2030 FIFA World Cup by another West Asia Country Saudi Arabia won't be considered that easily.

The plan for the matches to be hosted in three continents and 6 countries is simply different. However the opportunity provided for the small nations to watch FIFA matches on their home country is something great for them and welcoming move from FIFA.

Ok now I see that their planning for the bid for the World Cup 2030 ceased this June. But what I didn't know is that Saudi Arabia will probably host the 2023 FIFA Club World Cup and the 2027 AFC Asian Cup and they immediately announced that their bid will be prepared for the World Cup 2034 as the FIFA already announced that the World Cup will take place in Asia or Oceania region.

This would give them another 10 years to boost their Saudi Professional League further and then go all out when they indeed become the hosts for those World Cup. The point is that the more players they sign with huge followings, the harder it becomes for the FIFA to reject their bid. These guys are strategists in and out and I expect them to pump money into soccer relentlessly until then.
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As this is the active World Cup thread, I'll post it here
If many here are already thinking it's bad that the World Cup will be played in 3 countries, take a look at this news that just came out:

The 2030 World Cup will be played in 3 continents and 6 countries

A brief summary: Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay (South America) will play the first matches of each team in their own country, to celebrate the centenary of the World Cup
After that, the World Cup will be played "normally" in 3 countries: Portugal, Spain and Morocco (Europe and Africa).

It was FIFA's way of holding the World Cup where it prefers, while still paying tribute to the 100th anniversary of the first World Cup

So, what do you think? A good way for FIFA to please everyone?

It is not going to please those who had intentions to attend to that World Cup and had a limited budget for airplane tickets and reservations.
Honestly, I am not sure it is a good idea to host such a huge event, it would create some inconvenients, like the difference of time for both the players and the fans who want to watch the matches.

It is a clear example of globalization, if you asked me, how technology, communications and infrastructure is getting us closer to each other as time passes. That is a good or bad thing, depending whom you ask.



But there is something I didn't really understand. Wasn't Saudi Arabia full into the race for the World Cup 2030? I thought that was one of the main reasons why they signed Ronaldo and all those players for so much money. As far as I understood, wasn't it their initiative to convince the committee and get public support to become the hosts?

Regarding the number of countries and continents involved, I think it isn't a bad thing. Imagine how many people only get to see one World Cup in their home country once in a lifetime, if at all. This solution caters to more people getting the opportunity to become witnesses of a major sports event in their home country.
Maybe Saudi Arabia have got the plans to host the 2030 FIFA World Cup and as a preparation they're much focused in making the Saudi Arabia Pro League popular and have signed popular players. The reality is different, it is the FIFA to decide the host. 2022 FIFA hosted by West Asia country Qatar and once again the 2030 FIFA World Cup by another West Asia Country Saudi Arabia won't be considered that easily.

The plan for the matches to be hosted in three continents and 6 countries is simply different. However the opportunity provided for the small nations to watch FIFA matches on their home country is something great for them and welcoming move from FIFA.
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As this is the active World Cup thread, I'll post it here
If many here are already thinking it's bad that the World Cup will be played in 3 countries, take a look at this news that just came out:

The 2030 World Cup will be played in 3 continents and 6 countries

A brief summary: Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay (South America) will play the first matches of each team in their own country, to celebrate the centenary of the World Cup
After that, the World Cup will be played "normally" in 3 countries: Portugal, Spain and Morocco (Europe and Africa).

It was FIFA's way of holding the World Cup where it prefers, while still paying tribute to the 100th anniversary of the first World Cup

So, what do you think? A good way for FIFA to please everyone?

It is not going to please those who had intentions to attend to that World Cup and had a limited budget for airplane tickets and reservations.
Honestly, I am not sure it is a good idea to host such a huge event, it would create some inconvenients, like the difference of time for both the players and the fans who want to watch the matches.

It is a clear example of globalization, if you asked me, how technology, communications and infrastructure is getting us closer to each other as time passes. That is a good or bad thing, depending whom you ask.



But there is something I didn't really understand. Wasn't Saudi Arabia full into the race for the World Cup 2030? I thought that was one of the main reasons why they signed Ronaldo and all those players for so much money. As far as I understood, wasn't it their initiative to convince the committee and get public support to become the hosts?

Regarding the number of countries and continents involved, I think it isn't a bad thing. Imagine how many people only get to see one World Cup in their home country once in a lifetime, if at all. This solution caters to more people getting the opportunity to become witnesses of a major sports event in their home country.
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As this is the active World Cup thread, I'll post it here
If many here are already thinking it's bad that the World Cup will be played in 3 countries, take a look at this news that just came out:

The 2030 World Cup will be played in 3 continents and 6 countries

A brief summary: Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay (South America) will play the first matches of each team in their own country, to celebrate the centenary of the World Cup
After that, the World Cup will be played "normally" in 3 countries: Portugal, Spain and Morocco (Europe and Africa).

It was FIFA's way of holding the World Cup where it prefers, while still paying tribute to the 100th anniversary of the first World Cup

So, what do you think? A good way for FIFA to please everyone?

It is not going to please those who had intentions to attend to that World Cup and had a limited budget for airplane tickets and reservations.
Honestly, I am not sure it is a good idea to host such a huge event, it would create some inconvenients, like the difference of time for both the players and the fans who want to watch the matches.

It is a clear example of globalization, if you asked me, how technology, communications and infrastructure is getting us closer to each other as time passes. That is a good or bad thing, depending whom you ask.

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As this is the active World Cup thread, I'll post it here
If many here are already thinking it's bad that the World Cup will be played in 3 countries, take a look at this news that just came out:

The 2030 World Cup will be played in 3 continents and 6 countries

A brief summary: Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay (South America) will play the first matches of each team in their own country, to celebrate the centenary of the World Cup
After that, the World Cup will be played "normally" in 3 countries: Portugal, Spain and Morocco (Europe and Africa).

It was FIFA's way of holding the World Cup where it prefers, while still paying tribute to the 100th anniversary of the first World Cup

So, what do you think? A good way for FIFA to please everyone?
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2026 is still three years away. Do you believe that Messi would still be motivated to take part in the next world cup? He has achieved whatever he wanted to achieve in football. So why should he carry on playing anymore? Lionel Scaloni may want him in the squad, but even if he includes him a lot of questions will be asked. Another factor that may impact his participation is the fact that Messi no longer plays in one of the stronger leagues. At this point he represents Inter Miami, in Major League Soccer (MLS).

Yeah, I think Messi now is busier with media contracts, making ads, and things like that, more than football itself.

I think that is actually the smart thing to do for him as he will be able to make ads for longer than the amount of time he will be able to play soccer.

We still see ads with Pirlo for example.
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If until the 2026 World Cup, Argentina is still coached by Lionel Scaloni, of course he will understand better whether Lionel Messi as a core player can bring good things to the Argentine national team or not, but seeing how Argentinian players really respect Messi, it is very possible that he will still be there in the Argentina squad but not as a main player but will play when the coach feels it is necessary to use him to play because even though his physical condition has declined, his experience is very valuable for the Argentina squad.
However, it is also very important for young players to get a lot of playing time because regeneration is very necessary.

2026 is still three years away. Do you believe that Messi would still be motivated to take part in the next world cup? He has achieved whatever he wanted to achieve in football. So why should he carry on playing anymore? Lionel Scaloni may want him in the squad, but even if he includes him a lot of questions will be asked. Another factor that may impact his participation is the fact that Messi no longer plays in one of the stronger leagues. At this point he represents Inter Miami, in Major League Soccer (MLS).
By 2026 I doubt if Messi would participate in the world cup but then if turns out that they want him to I think nit will be basically for the purpose of business by this I mean more tickets would be sold and it will definitely attract tons of fans to that stadium to watch him play the last world cup appearance before he retires and it will automatically give the Argentine side more fans on days where the teams of those fans are not playing.

Secondly his presence in the team will serve as a motivating factor to new starts who will be playing along side Soni don't see his presence there as in anyway stopping others from coming to Play or getting an opportunity to rather it will be basically a moral boost to play with such a national hero just before he retires from national foot ball and just like last world cup, he will most likely be their captain.

But then age might not be on his side to play but then I feel he could be given some preference that's if the coach wants him and he accepts to play aswell. I don't think him playing in the MLS is not a factor that will cause him not to be selected as he is performing very well in the MLS as his influence on the league is obviously, ever since his arrival the MLS gained more attention that it has ever gotten so it's definitely not going to be a reason he will not be considered.
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FIFA has announced that only two stadiums are remaining in the race to host the final match of 2026 World Cup. The remaining contenders are MetLife Stadium in New Jersey (where NFL franchises New York Jets and New York Giants play their home matches) and AT&T Stadium in Dallas (where home matches for Dallas Cowboys are hosted). I would rather prefer the New Jersey stadium, as Dallas weather conditions can be quite hot and humid during the scheduled timeframe. SoFi Stadium (costliest sports facility in the world) has gone out of contention, as the owners didn't agreed to revenue-sharing terms proposed by FIFA.

     
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Surely letting Messi play in the next World Cup will not be good for Argentine and their team because even if we consider Messi can have a good performance in when he is a 39 year old palyer, but still, Argentine should give more space to the younger players and let them play to see better performance from them in the next years.

In the end, it will depend on whether Messi wants to play or not. I am 80% sure that he will pull out of the tournament and may retire from active football much before 2026. Right now he has a deal with one of the MLS clubs and I am not sure whether he will extend that deal or not. In case he doesn't retire by then, the Argentine coach will be in a lot of dilemma. If he prefers some of the younger player ahead of Messi, and if that player doesn't perform well, then he will be in a lot of trouble. We all know what happened to Fernando Santos after Qatar 2022.

I don't see Messi as a player that will retire in the next two years. He might not be playing in a top league recently but his performance is still high. He has helped to change the fortune of a relatively unknown club. Argentina's national team coach made it clear immediately after the team won the World Cup that Messi is always welcomed in the national team. Coach Lionel Sebastián Scaloni understands that Messi's experience will always benefit the team and he can serve as a form of motivation even if his performance reduces. I foresee that unless Messi is injured or faces any other problems, he will be given the privilege of joining the world champion for the next World Cup. I don't also think that he is taking the space of younger players rather he will be on the team to guide them and also assist the coach in some ways. Age isn't always a barrier to some players they are just special.
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If until the 2026 World Cup, Argentina is still coached by Lionel Scaloni, of course he will understand better whether Lionel Messi as a core player can bring good things to the Argentine national team or not, but seeing how Argentinian players really respect Messi, it is very possible that he will still be there in the Argentina squad but not as a main player but will play when the coach feels it is necessary to use him to play because even though his physical condition has declined, his experience is very valuable for the Argentina squad.
However, it is also very important for young players to get a lot of playing time because regeneration is very necessary.

2026 is still three years away. Do you believe that Messi would still be motivated to take part in the next world cup? He has achieved whatever he wanted to achieve in football. So why should he carry on playing anymore? Lionel Scaloni may want him in the squad, but even if he includes him a lot of questions will be asked. Another factor that may impact his participation is the fact that Messi no longer plays in one of the stronger leagues. At this point he represents Inter Miami, in Major League Soccer (MLS).
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Surely letting Messi play in the next World Cup will not be good for Argentine and their team because even if we consider Messi can have a good performance in when he is a 39 year old palyer, but still, Argentine should give more space to the younger players and let them play to see better performance from them in the next years.

If until the 2026 World Cup, Argentina is still coached by Lionel Scaloni, of course he will understand better whether Lionel Messi as a core player can bring good things to the Argentine national team or not, but seeing how Argentinian players really respect Messi, it is very possible that he will still be there in the Argentina squad but not as a main player but will play when the coach feels it is necessary to use him to play because even though his physical condition has declined, his experience is very valuable for the Argentina squad.
However, it is also very important for young players to get a lot of playing time because regeneration is very necessary.
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Possibility with Lionel Messi will play for next World Cup depend his condition exactly when closing time for player registering, current Messi condition still on injured and he was absent almost three matches with Inter Miami. I don't think problem for Messi although not playing on the top level competition he still become important player for Argentina after his contribution and success won FIFA World Cup 2022 in Qatar. Still left two years all possibilities happening for Lionel Messi participant in next World Cup or not but depend with his performance and on injured condition or not.

Indeed next World Cup Lionel Messi have absent, I don't think FIFA World Cup 2026 keep excited because many new star will get chance for playing in the top level, but if still have Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo actually will make more interested and many fans excited for seeing last performance from both star in World Cup.
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Surely letting Messi play in the next World Cup will not be good for Argentine and their team because even if we consider Messi can have a good performance in when he is a 39 year old palyer, but still, Argentine should give more space to the younger players and let them play to see better performance from them in the next years.

In the end, it will depend on whether Messi wants to play or not. I am 80% sure that he will pull out of the tournament and may retire from active football much before 2026. Right now he has a deal with one of the MLS clubs and I am not sure whether he will extend that deal or not. In case he doesn't retire by then, the Argentine coach will be in a lot of dilemma. If he prefers some of the younger player ahead of Messi, and if that player doesn't perform well, then he will be in a lot of trouble. We all know what happened to Fernando Santos after Qatar 2022.
Thats for sure, the decision makers will be the Legendary players. As he had won the Qatar World Cup, he could prefer to retire from active football. However we can't be sure of it, because the players mentality used to different. Argentina have won three World Cups and this is the first time Messi is part of the team. Whenever a team with the popular one fails the responsibility will be forced upon the coach, and the winning credits used to be taken by the players. This is completely wrong and the coaches need to be obeyed and given respect. What Fernando Santos faced could've been a big issue, but it got off.
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