Topic: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 176. (Read 57640 times)

That's not all because of Brazil's coach. Even the best coach in the world still needs some players and which is not something they have in Brazil after they lost players and legends like Ronaldo they couldn't find any other player to replace these legends even players like Neymar couldn't stable enough to achieve something for their national team in the world cup.
That's why I said the golden age for Brazil is over.

Brazil coach Tite was a total failure in the quarter final match against Croatia. The changes in some of the first-row players towards the end surprised me. Then Neymar scored a great goal for Brazil in the very last minute of the game with only one and a half minutes left in the game and at that time there was no point in attacking Croatia from the defense. A minute of defense would have ensured Brazil's victory against Croatia. I think Brazilian coach Tite forgot to teach his students this lesson. Brazil needs a top level coach as every current player is top level. The World Cup has been over for a long time, but Brazil has yet to select a quality coach. Choosing a good quality coach is very important for them.

Anyone watch the US vs Mexico game last night in the Concacaf semi.  Great game from the US side but it got ugly.  Bad blood between the 2 teams came out hopefully this is a start to something bigger.  Hope they somehow align them so it's a possibility they end up playing in the knockout stages against each other. 

Brazil failed and they had still players like Neymar in good form, now when they play again in the next world cup I'm sure they will have even worst performances because of the players they have.
That's why like I said before the golden days for Brazil are over and they won't be able to have the same performance we saw from them before.

Sometimes managing a group full of stars can be quite more difficult than what we may imagine, as there are a lot of egos that needs to be fed and this is not possible during the world cup, so this could generate bad chemistry among the players and cause them to underperform at critical moments, while a team like Croatia which also has its own stars but which have the commitment to try to make the best for the team can overcome their deficiencies and play at a higher level than expected due to this attitude.

I think it is not having good management but also not having all the players healed and there as well. Brazil were lacking a 100% Neymar, he came back from an injury, they lacked Jesus as well, and a few others if I am not mistaken. They were not a "team" neither, a group of very talented individuals getting together doesn't make them a team suddenly, it means that you are all good but you are not a team.

I always supported that Croatia ended up playing and being a lot better because they may not be individually better in many positions but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't have anything that would be bad, because they were much better at being a team and that is how they ended up winning and they are still winning at nations league as well.

Indeed, they were. A lot of people had a high hopes for them, including me, but an unexpected event happened where they did not finished with a bang and were even eliminated with Croatia which seemingly cannot believe themselves that their roster managed to defeat the national team of Brazil but it is what it is. Hopefully they can make more adjustment in the next world cup and learn a thing or two about what happened, and hopefully, they will hire another coach because I do believe that someone with a fresh mind and a fresh set of eyes can make a difference instead of having the same coach.

Corruption and economic problems is affecting the Brazilian and Argentine leagues. Some of the clubs that were able to afford competitive salaries like the European leagues are not that buoyant to continue with such payments. Recently there was a big corruption allegation against teams in the Brazilian Serie B. Investigation revealed that this corrupt practice have been going on for a long time and the football regulatory body did nothing to curb it. The financial issues and corruption has led to the decrease of sponsorship and endorsement deals. Brazilian national team is now made up of mostly foreign based player and it is affecting the team negatively. Due to the difference in football leagues it will also take more time for the players to blend and understand each other. Even in my country's national team, the players are more serous when playing for their clubs than the national team. This is because the clubs treat the players better than the national team. Sometime players are even abandoned when they are injured. So the drop in the performance of the national teams of Brazil and Argentina might be because of poor administration.        

Europe's top leagues are a measure where players are said to have a very good game, especially if they penetrate the main squad at the club.
Brazil has always produced star players who have excellent abilities, and that continues from season to season and I don't think that the golden generation of Brazil will just disappear, I'm sure that in the near future there will be many young players with potential from Brazil.
Personally saying European countries dominate I don't think so, even now from Asian countries their football is developing further and I'm sure they will do that in the next season.

That is also one of the weaknesses because they don't have an experienced coach, but if we look at the Moroccan coach he is even more inexperienced but he has successfully led Morocco to finish in fourth place at the Qatar World Cup. In addition to the ability of coaches, teamwork is also very much needed in modern football and maybe Brazilian players are less integrated in this regard. On the other hand, we often hear that the era of football will move about the heyday, for example from Europe to Latin America as a champion candidate.

That is what was conveyed in the reply to the previous post, each player must have their own advantages and it is impossible to be compared to legendary players or other players. Pele, Ronaldinho and Ronaldo have their own character and even though the Brazilian style of football is known as Jogo bonito (samba) and has similarities between one player and another Brazilian player. Even though they have similarities, the characteristics of the players are definitely different and has its own advantages.

For the generation of players I think it's not over for Brazil, but the dominance has diminished because many other countries also have players who are quite talented and they were born during the heyday of football in their country. For now, Brazil is no longer the only country that is able to produce a generation of extraordinary footballers because there are many other countries that also have talents in football for each generation.

Brazil were really a big disappointment in last World Cup by not even being able to go beyond the quarter finals. They had technically much stronger players than Croatia but they still couldn't. In my opinion that's because of not having a good management. Tite couldn't bring any significant success to the team despite being the coach for 6 years.

His only achievement is a Copa America trophy in the 2018/2019 season. I don't even have any idea why Brazil board didn't even sack him much before. Maybe the World Cup title would have been achieved with a great squad like this. Ramon Menezes must be the temporary manager now because he was managing the U20 team.

I hope they can find the right coach for themselves to get prepared really strongly for next World Cup.

In the last World Cup we saw that the players who sat on the bench in Brazil were the most expensive players. That is, compared to the value of those who performed on the field of other teams, the value of those who sat on the bench in Brazil was much higher. The 2022 World Cup in Qatar was a tournament full of potential for Brazil but they did not do well in the tournament despite having so many expensive players. By far the most Brazilian stars are performing for various European clubs. But even with such good players, they are not able to contribute much for the team. Maybe because of playing very few matches for the national team, these stars are not able to contribute much to the team's victory. If more friendlies are organized then Brazil will do much better in major tournaments.

I think it's more about them being in outside of their nation, that could be a thing. Sure Europeans move nations as well but within continent, whereas Brazillians move continents for it and that makes it harder. The people who vote who should win that award are usually Europeans, so there could be some continental bias towards their own players to win as well. Ballon d'or hasn't been won by a Brazilian in a long time as well if I am not wrong.

Plus, we say they are the best, but in the last 20 years, since Ronaldo era, how many stars have been born? Aside from Neymar I am not sure if they had any superstar, sure they had good players, and now Vini looks like the new one, but they do not have a team filled with superstars, they have a team with 1-2 superstar, and rest are "great players" but not superstar level.

A few decades back, teams like Brazil and Argentina were ahead of the other teams in terms of quality of play. But this gap has disappeared now. Also, the local leagues in these countries are not of high quality and therefore the players opt to play for European leagues. This is having an impact on team bonding, as nowadays the players remain with their club for almost the entire year. International matches are given a low priority when compared to club matches and even while participating in national matches the players are very cautious to avoid any injuries.

We can't compare Pele, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, or other similar players with Neymar, they played for their national teams for a long time and they earn many achievements also compared to Neymar these players had much better performance and they had more stability while a player like Neymar can't have weeks of good performance and then just like this year, he can disappoint while the team.

I think the generation of golden players in Brazil is over and that's why they couldn't earn many achievements recently in the world cup.

Yes, they may be the best players in the world but let's not forget that football is played by a team consisted by various players and not only played by one single player which means that you need to be with them to make yourself accustomed and comfortable to their nature especially in friendly games so that chemistry will be built as well as trust.

Being the best is literally a waste if there is no chemistry between you and the whole team but we cannot blame them because just like what is mentioned above, it's the club's fault for releasing them late with almost few time to practice with the whole team.

The world class players have no difficulties at all to adapt to any circumstances that they have during their career,now in this specific context they have no problems of adapting with the national team and they usually produce good results.This last World Cup unfortunately Brazil took it easy and they never thought to not pass Croatia especially at penalties where Brazil if compared single player by single player has a much better quality.This shows that it is when you keep your head down not underestimating any opponents that brings you far in such competitions.It was not because of limited time that players had with each other but because their feeling of superiority which led to an early elimination of Brazil last November.

Of course, Brazil has an important place in world football, but now football is a complete team game. Also, not only Brazil but also other countries have excellent players professionally. France is one of the countries that has achieved this best. Their success is not a coincidence, in my opinion, the product of a completely systematic study. Bringing young players into the team is what they do best.

without a doubt that brazil has good players and they don't have problems with that, but the very big problem is in the question of coaches, and something that until today i can't understand, let's see the following: the brazilian players that play in the team national of brazil are players who play in the great teams of europe, so these players do not have difficulties when playing against teams of europe, on the contrary they are superior to their opponents, but brazil has the big problem of choosing the national coach a brazilian , and the problem is not simply because they choose a Brazilian

the problem is that the national coaches of brazil are not people who have already been successful with a great team in europe, so what happens is that the brazilian coach does not understand his players well and the style of games of the europeans and in the games he cannot do it good strategy that can easily beat the european national teams, but brazil does not seem to want to hire a european coach who has been very successful with european teams to command the national team, so we will see brazil making the same mistakes in the cups of the world in the coming years

Neymar is also one of the players included in a row of legends such as Pele, Cafu, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo and Kaka. But the problem is that until now Neymar has not been able to offer a title to his country at the World Cup. Neymar's appearance in the two previous World Cups can also be said to be pretty good, even though he had injured during the Qatar World Cup. To compare Neymar with other legends might not be the same because each player must have differences and and every generation must be different.

It is precisely what I see football today is different from traditional football, where each individual can provide changes on the field. But now it's more to collectivity and individual abilities don't stand out so much if you don't play solidly between one player and another.

This is where Brazil's weaknesses today and although they have quite quality star players, but still very difficult for this team to win the World Cup. Even though every year there are always Brazilian players who are able to penetrate Europe even though they are sometimes not up to 20 years and almost on average their players play in large clubs. Difficulties in building a team collectively may be the part that affects them unable to perform optimally at every World Cup performance but other facts may also not be deals.

Even when Brazil hosted the 2014 World Cup before, Germany managed to slaughter Brazil with a landslide score of 7-1 and at that time the Brazilian players were also extraordinary, even the squad they had was far better than the squad that appeared in Qatar.