FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 179.

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Quote from: AndySt on June 12, 2023, 07:33:50 PM

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I believe that Messi's performance will be secondary to the decision whether he plays the next World Cup in 2026 or not. With secondary I don't mean that it doesn't matter at all. But frankly speaking, I don't expect him to play a real mess in Miami. He will still be able to contribute to the team on a high level and have amazing moments for the crowd. That won't be the problem. But I think it will be important what the Argentinian crowd wants and what Messi's appeal as a brand and also as a supporting player for the team is. If the whole country of Argentina begs for Messi to play the World Cup, I am not sure that a coach would decide to publicly announce that Messi won't be nominated. The risk for the coach would be very high if things go wrong even when they would have gone wrong with Messi. If Messi does not announce his retreat, I think we will see him play one more World Cup.

Also, a lot depends on such elementary things as physical fitness and health. If all this is on the level, then I think there will not be a single coach of the Argentine national team who will risk not including Messi in the squad. But once again, I repeat that there are still three whole years left and a lot can happen during this time, especially at the age that Messi is at, when it becomes harder to recover every year and therefore some players on the contrary refuse calls to the national team in order to find strength and health to play for their club. I'm not saying that this will happen now, I'm talking about what may happen in a few years. The very fact of Messi playing in the USA is already an important factor in attracting attention to the 2026 World Cup.

Messi’s prowess might be a game-changer, but not the only game piece. Messi is more than an athlete; he’s Argentina's beacon. His influence goes beyond the game.

However, remember, football’s a group dance. With Messi in, the team's combined output still rules. Messi’s a force, but can’t wrestle victory alone.

In terms of fitness, absolutely, it counts. Age might be a limit, but many players shatter it. If Messi holds onto his stamina, he might secure a 2026 World Cup berth. Yet, the final decision will depend on several factors, and time will certainly reveal what's in store

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It seems that most sports are being bought by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc. There seems to be a focused investment in sports from those countries.

Not sure what's up, but these players and lots of people around them are getting a huge amount of money.

Not sure about Qatar (their bid for 2022 FIFA World Cup was made more than a decade ago), but Saudi Arabia is taking giant strides in sports. The current ruler (Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud) has explicitly stated that one of his aims is to make Saudi Arabia as one of the global sports hubs. And apart from football, they are making significant investments in other sports such as cricket, golf and boxing. And this is not a one-off policy change. Under prince Mohammed, Saudi Arabia has taken a lot of revolutionary steps to integrate with the outside world, unlike the countries such as Qatar and Kuwait, who still want to live in the stone age.

Saudi clubs have been floating since the past. I want to say that (Mohammed bin Salman) paid huge attention to the Saudi club when Argentina lost to Saudi Arabia during the opening game of the 2022 World Cup in Saudi Arabia. And the big players keep buying which is currently at the top of the discussion. And the clubs have become very strong enough to be exposed to the outside world. Salman Bin is ready to invest heavily on how to reach the pinnacle of further development. And with huge offers, stars are leading to clubs in Saudi Arabia.

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Quote from: nullama on June 13, 2023, 01:39:53 AM

It seems that most sports are being bought by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc. There seems to be a focused investment in sports from those countries.

Not sure what's up, but these players and lots of people around them are getting a huge amount of money.

Not sure about Qatar (their bid for 2022 FIFA World Cup was made more than a decade ago), but Saudi Arabia is taking giant strides in sports. The current ruler (Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud) has explicitly stated that one of his aims is to make Saudi Arabia as one of the global sports hubs. And apart from football, they are making significant investments in other sports such as cricket, golf and boxing. And this is not a one-off policy change. Under prince Mohammed, Saudi Arabia has taken a lot of revolutionary steps to integrate with the outside world, unlike the countries such as Qatar and Kuwait, who still want to live in the stone age.

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By joining Lionel Messi to Miami, it will create a passion for football there, of course it will have a positive impact on football there. Actually this is a breakthrough if a league wants to get a lot of attention, yes one way is by bringing in players with star labels. As before what Al Nassr did in Saudi Arabia, it was good for them.

as one of the countries that will host the 2026 world cup, messi's presence in the usa league will add to the impression of prestige, moreover messi and cristiano have the same star aura. I can say the future of the USA league will be better with Messi's presence there, and people will start to look at the USA league and also the preparation of the USA as one of the hosts for the 2026 world cup.

Whether Lionel Messi will play in the next World Cup will be determined by his performance in Miami. But many hope that Lionel Messi can play the next World Cup. Another rumor is that Lionel Messi will join Barcelona after spending one season in Miami.

Yes, without a doubt, the fans of Inter Miami are aware that their team will be one of the best in the MLS , and this can lead them to grow the team and the League as such , but we all know here that the MLS does not have any player. it has made him reach the Top 1 , and Messi is clearly a player who will always be there, the bad thing is that MLS is seen as retirement for these players, and it is a calmer, more relaxed football, the fans there are not As in South America or in Europe , they are somewhat calmer , I think Messi went there to have more peace of mind, he was not happy for 2 years.

Romeo Beckham ready to turn down chance to play with Lionel Messi at Inter Miami

Great stars will always be great wherever they go, especially the lesser team or countryside. Messi has been linked with many places in recent times, there are speculations that he is going to Saudi Arabia, a close relation claims that he would be back in Barcelona and now the USA claims are coming on board. Although this is not popular as I've never heard or read about it before. My guess is that Messi would find his part in either Barcelona or Saudi Arabia and you should know that the Saudi option would be for the money.

He would soon retire, so I believe gathering all the money possible is a very good and wise option now. The next world cup might also be his last, by then he should be 40-1 years, he can't predictably play in the next 2.

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I do not think that any manager has any right to not play Messi, he is not just a talent or anything but he is like a god in his nation at this point, so if he ever wants to play, then he will get to play, there is nothing around it, that's how it works and that's how it will end.

I believe that we shouldn't really be shocked at the result and just realize that Messi will do whatever he wants and there is nobody there to stop him. However, will he want to play? That's up to him, if he decides not to because he already got all that he could ever hope for, then that's going to be fine for him. Think about it, is there any cup that he hasn't won before? I think not many, at this point he became more business man than just a player and that's why he may not want to as well.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 12, 2023, 10:40:11 PM

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Messi will get a lucrative contract with Inter Miami and there is no doubt regrading that. But no matter how lucrative it is, the new contract will be nowhere near the one that Al Hilal was offering. They were willing to pay up to $1.2 billion for just two years. Initially I thought that Messi rejected the offer from Saudis because he wanted to move to Barca. But then that was also not the case. If that was the excuse, then Messi would have said that he wanted to stay in Europe since the quality of competition is quite high. But with MLS there is no such excuse. The quality is even worse compared to the Saudi Professional League.

It seems that most sports are being bought by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc. There seems to be a focused investment in sports from those countries.

Not sure what's up, but these players and lots of people around them are getting a huge amount of money.

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Quote from: Texac on June 12, 2023, 03:03:01 PM

Probably he wanted to go to MLS because he had seen other players go there previously! ! That’s what probably inspired him to go there. He is also getting some good treatment to go there. It is not like he is not getting paid well. In fact, he is getting paid quite a handsome amount of money. But it is true that when we think about the other options, it is certainly a little surprising that he went to Inter Miami.

Messi will get a lucrative contract with Inter Miami and there is no doubt regrading that. But no matter how lucrative it is, the new contract will be nowhere near the one that Al Hilal was offering. They were willing to pay up to $1.2 billion for just two years. Initially I thought that Messi rejected the offer from Saudis because he wanted to move to Barca. But then that was also not the case. If that was the excuse, then Messi would have said that he wanted to stay in Europe since the quality of competition is quite high. But with MLS there is no such excuse. The quality is even worse compared to the Saudi Professional League.

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Quote from: temple on June 12, 2023, 04:13:51 PM

I believe that Messi's performance will be secondary to the decision whether he plays the next World Cup in 2026 or not. With secondary I don't mean that it doesn't matter at all. But frankly speaking, I don't expect him to play a real mess in Miami. He will still be able to contribute to the team on a high level and have amazing moments for the crowd. That won't be the problem. But I think it will be important what the Argentinian crowd wants and what Messi's appeal as a brand and also as a supporting player for the team is. If the whole country of Argentina begs for Messi to play the World Cup, I am not sure that a coach would decide to publicly announce that Messi won't be nominated. The risk for the coach would be very high if things go wrong even when they would have gone wrong with Messi. If Messi does not announce his retreat, I think we will see him play one more World Cup.

Also, a lot depends on such elementary things as physical fitness and health. If all this is on the level, then I think there will not be a single coach of the Argentine national team who will risk not including Messi in the squad. But once again, I repeat that there are still three whole years left and a lot can happen during this time, especially at the age that Messi is at, when it becomes harder to recover every year and therefore some players on the contrary refuse calls to the national team in order to find strength and health to play for their club. I'm not saying that this will happen now, I'm talking about what may happen in a few years. The very fact of Messi playing in the USA is already an important factor in attracting attention to the 2026 World Cup.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on June 12, 2023, 07:21:23 PM

Did anyone expected that Ronaldo will make a move to Al-Nassr. It happened and a season over, throughout the season he was the talk. Whether he performed or not is secondary. Same as that Messi had made a big decision that were not in the list. He's much welcomed and he himself had mentioned his dream enjoying the life in USA and now it had come true. The universe is turning to be more connected through different leagues.

Actually moving to USA is something that became classic comparing to moving to Saudi Arabia and leagues in the middle east region.
Messi didn't want to move to Saudi Arabia because his wife and children didn't want to live there, otherwise his relatives were supportive because of the nice check. Since moving back to Barcelona is risky then picking Inter Miami was the best choice for him at the time, since he can practice and keep himself warm for the next international competition with Argentina.

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Beckham WAS working on it, but to me it looked like it was a futile attempt and would never happen. I mean let's look at the details, one team is PSG, paying him tens of millions of dollars and he would be still playing at a high level without a doubt just as he did for 2 seasons, the other is Barcelona, is youth club he played nearly 20+ years and 15+ professional and won so many and they were willing to pay him a lot too, just that they would have to sell some other players to make it happen.

And another was Saudi Arabia, maybe not as good of a league that's true and they are "trying" something but so far have like 3 or 4 good players, rest of the league sucks but ONE BILLION!! dollars was offered.

When you see these, Inter Miami looks like a joke, and yet one way or another they convinced him, that's a big deal.

Probably he wanted to go to MLS because he had seen other players go there previously! ! That’s what probably inspired him to go there. He is also getting some good treatment to go there. It is not like he is not getting paid well. In fact, he is getting paid quite a handsome amount of money. But it is true that when we think about the other options, it is certainly a little surprising that he went to Inter Miami.

Did anyone expected that Ronaldo will make a move to Al-Nassr. It happened and a season over, throughout the season he was the talk. Whether he performed or not is secondary. Same as that Messi had made a big decision that were not in the list. He's much welcomed and he himself had mentioned his dream enjoying the life in USA and now it had come true. The universe is turning to be more connected through different leagues.

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By joining Lionel Messi to Miami, it will create a passion for football there, of course it will have a positive impact on football there. Actually this is a breakthrough if a league wants to get a lot of attention, yes one way is by bringing in players with star labels. As before what Al Nassr did in Saudi Arabia, it was good for them.

as one of the countries that will host the 2026 world cup, messi's presence in the usa league will add to the impression of prestige, moreover messi and cristiano have the same star aura. I can say the future of the USA league will be better with Messi's presence there, and people will start to look at the USA league and also the preparation of the USA as one of the hosts for the 2026 world cup.

Whether Lionel Messi will play in the next World Cup will be determined by his performance in Miami. But many hope that Lionel Messi can play the next World Cup. Another rumor is that Lionel Messi will join Barcelona after spending one season in Miami.

He still have some room to do that though because the World Cup is still 3 years away and I know he got some deep reasons why he is in Inter Miami FC and it's sudden enough for the fans because they did not expect Messi to have that choice as first, it wasn't in the rumored list and it was not even from one of the clubs that can afford to literally make rain money on Messi.

I believe that Messi's performance will be secondary to the decision whether he plays the next World Cup in 2026 or not. With secondary I don't mean that it doesn't matter at all. But frankly speaking, I don't expect him to play a real mess in Miami. He will still be able to contribute to the team on a high level and have amazing moments for the crowd. That won't be the problem. But I think it will be important what the Argentinian crowd wants and what Messi's appeal as a brand and also as a supporting player for the team is. If the whole country of Argentina begs for Messi to play the World Cup, I am not sure that a coach would decide to publicly announce that Messi won't be nominated. The risk for the coach would be very high if things go wrong even when they would have gone wrong with Messi. If Messi does not announce his retreat, I think we will see him play one more World Cup.

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Quote from: sovie on June 12, 2023, 07:28:45 AM

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By joining Lionel Messi to Miami, it will create a passion for football there, of course it will have a positive impact on football there. Actually this is a breakthrough if a league wants to get a lot of attention, yes one way is by bringing in players with star labels. As before what Al Nassr did in Saudi Arabia, it was good for them.

as one of the countries that will host the 2026 world cup, messi's presence in the usa league will add to the impression of prestige, moreover messi and cristiano have the same star aura. I can say the future of the USA league will be better with Messi's presence there, and people will start to look at the USA league and also the preparation of the USA as one of the hosts for the 2026 world cup.

Whether Lionel Messi will play in the next World Cup will be determined by his performance in Miami. But many hope that Lionel Messi can play the next World Cup. Another rumor is that Lionel Messi will join Barcelona after spending one season in Miami.

He still have some room to do that though because the World Cup is still 3 years away and I know he got some deep reasons why he is in Inter Miami FC and it's sudden enough for the fans because they did not expect Messi to have that choice as first, it wasn't in the rumored list and it was not even from one of the clubs that can afford to literally make rain money on Messi.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on June 12, 2023, 08:38:59 AM

Beckham WAS working on it, but to me it looked like it was a futile attempt and would never happen. I mean let's look at the details, one team is PSG, paying him tens of millions of dollars and he would be still playing at a high level without a doubt just as he did for 2 seasons, the other is Barcelona, is youth club he played nearly 20+ years and 15+ professional and won so many and they were willing to pay him a lot too, just that they would have to sell some other players to make it happen.

And another was Saudi Arabia, maybe not as good of a league that's true and they are "trying" something but so far have like 3 or 4 good players, rest of the league sucks but ONE BILLION!! dollars was offered.

When you see these, Inter Miami looks like a joke, and yet one way or another they convinced him, that's a big deal.

Probably he wanted to go to MLS because he had seen other players go there previously! ! That’s what probably inspired him to go there. He is also getting some good treatment to go there. It is not like he is not getting paid well. In fact, he is getting paid quite a handsome amount of money. But it is true that when we think about the other options, it is certainly a little surprising that he went to Inter Miami.

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By joining Lionel Messi to Miami, it will create a passion for football there, of course it will have a positive impact on football there. Actually this is a breakthrough if a league wants to get a lot of attention, yes one way is by bringing in players with star labels. As before what Al Nassr did in Saudi Arabia, it was good for them.

as one of the countries that will host the 2026 world cup, messi's presence in the usa league will add to the impression of prestige, moreover messi and cristiano have the same star aura. I can say the future of the USA league will be better with Messi's presence there, and people will start to look at the USA league and also the preparation of the USA as one of the hosts for the 2026 world cup.

Whether Lionel Messi will play in the next World Cup will be determined by his performance in Miami. But many hope that Lionel Messi can play the next World Cup. Another rumor is that Lionel Messi will join Barcelona after spending one season in Miami.

Yes, without a doubt, the fans of Inter Miami are aware that their team will be one of the best in the MLS , and this can lead them to grow the team and the League as such , but we all know here that the MLS does not have any player. it has made him reach the Top 1 , and Messi is clearly a player who will always be there, the bad thing is that MLS is seen as retirement for these players, and it is a calmer, more relaxed football, the fans there are not As in South America or in Europe , they are somewhat calmer , I think Messi went there to have more peace of mind, he was not happy for 2 years.

Romeo Beckham ready to turn down chance to play with Lionel Messi at Inter Miami

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Romeo Beckham is ready to snub a return to Inter Miami to play alongside Lionel Messi in favour of staying with Brentford next season.

The 20-year-old has has followed in his famous father's footsteps in becoming a footballer and turned out 20 times for the Floridan franchise's second string in 2022. He moved back to his homeland to join Brentford B on loan last season, featuring as the club's reserve side won the Premier League Cup.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/romeo-beckham-inter-miami-messi-30213668

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Quote from: Webetcoins on June 12, 2023, 08:38:59 AM

Beckham WAS working on it, but to me it looked like it was a futile attempt and would never happen. I mean let's look at the details, one team is PSG, paying him tens of millions of dollars and he would be still playing at a high level without a doubt just as he did for 2 seasons, the other is Barcelona, is youth club he played nearly 20+ years and 15+ professional and won so many and they were willing to pay him a lot too, just that they would have to sell some other players to make it happen.

And another was Saudi Arabia, maybe not as good of a league that's true and they are "trying" something but so far have like 3 or 4 good players, rest of the league sucks but ONE BILLION!! dollars was offered.

When you see these, Inter Miami looks like a joke, and yet one way or another they convinced him, that's a big deal.

Apart from being a player, Beckham is also a very handsome person. Today he can be called a businessman. Adding Lionel Messi to Inter Miami, the team is expected to reach billions of dollars in market value. Beckham's club will benefit immensely.

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Beckham WAS working on it, but to me it looked like it was a futile attempt and would never happen. I mean let's look at the details, one team is PSG, paying him tens of millions of dollars and he would be still playing at a high level without a doubt just as he did for 2 seasons, the other is Barcelona, is youth club he played nearly 20+ years and 15+ professional and won so many and they were willing to pay him a lot too, just that they would have to sell some other players to make it happen.

And another was Saudi Arabia, maybe not as good of a league that's true and they are "trying" something but so far have like 3 or 4 good players, rest of the league sucks but ONE BILLION!! dollars was offered.

When you see these, Inter Miami looks like a joke, and yet one way or another they convinced him, that's a big deal.

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By joining Lionel Messi to Miami, it will create a passion for football there, of course it will have a positive impact on football there. Actually this is a breakthrough if a league wants to get a lot of attention, yes one way is by bringing in players with star labels. As before what Al Nassr did in Saudi Arabia, it was good for them.

as one of the countries that will host the 2026 world cup, messi's presence in the usa league will add to the impression of prestige, moreover messi and cristiano have the same star aura. I can say the future of the USA league will be better with Messi's presence there, and people will start to look at the USA league and also the preparation of the USA as one of the hosts for the 2026 world cup.

Whether Lionel Messi will play in the next World Cup will be determined by his performance in Miami. But many hope that Lionel Messi can play the next World Cup. Another rumor is that Lionel Messi will join Barcelona after spending one season in Miami.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on June 12, 2023, 05:47:28 AM

By joining Lionel Messi to Miami, it will create a passion for football there, of course it will have a positive impact on football there. Actually this is a breakthrough if a league wants to get a lot of attention, yes one way is by bringing in players with star labels. As before what Al Nassr did in Saudi Arabia, it was good for them.

as one of the countries that will host the 2026 world cup, messi's presence in the usa league will add to the impression of prestige, moreover messi and cristiano have the same star aura. I can say the future of the USA league will be better with Messi's presence there, and people will start to look at the USA league and also the preparation of the USA as one of the hosts for the 2026 world cup.

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Sure enough that nobody have been expecting nor saw that coming because if I recall it correctly, neither of the signs were pointing at the Inter Miami CF as people and rumors have been suspecting that it's either Messi will join Ronaldo in Saudi or he will go back to Barcelona until the day of his retirement. But that didn't happen and safe enough to say that people are curious why Miami has been chosen for the legend.

Maybe it should be mentioned that Beckham has been working on a Messi transfer for years now. Those who followed the news the last couple of years likely thought that Messi will go back to either Barcelona or go to Saudi Arabia, but the devil is in the details here. Messi did signal in the past that he might be willing to play in the US and since this topic is about the World Cup 2026, there might be more to this transfer to Inter Miami than just Messi's mood to play soccer in Florida. He will create a lot of enthusiasm and new fans in the US area and that could spark an extra wave of excitement that will further mobilize the masses towards this huge event in a few years from now. The timing makes a lot of sense in many respects.

By joining Lionel Messi to Miami, it will create a passion for football there, of course it will have a positive impact on football there. Actually this is a breakthrough if a league wants to get a lot of attention, yes one way is by bringing in players with star labels. As before what Al Nassr did in Saudi Arabia, it was good for them.

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Quote from: boltz on June 11, 2023, 11:16:01 AM

With Messi moving to Miami , I do have confidence that he will be playing at the next WC , especially that he will know all the pitches by then and having extra info even if the age won't forgive Messi but I would like to see him playing one more WC. Now , can Argentina win it again ?

Since Messi has not made any statement regarding his retirement so far we can initially assume that Messi may play one more World Cup but based on age and fitness he may retire from national level play after this season's Copa America. Because Messi has nothing to achieve at the moment, he won the World Cup last time. He might want everyone to say that Messi won the last World Cup of his life. Because there is no guarantee that he will win the 2026 World Cup.

Quote from: boltz on June 11, 2023, 11:16:01 AM

I doubt it because believe it or not , England looks the strongest team on the planet right now , because they do have a lot of young talented players with massive experience in both WC , EC but also UCL and Premier League. Cool

England were one of the favorites for the 2022 World Cup but ended their World Cup mission by losing to France in the knockout stages. Some of England's young footballers have been performing brilliantly in the Premier League and UCL recently and their skills have improved significantly compared to the 2022 World Cup.

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