FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 211.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 29, 2023, 03:31:23 PM

I think letting America and two other countries host the world can be very good but the thing about America is they don't have many football fans and compared to many other countries in the world America is a country to place football in first priority maybe that's the reason to say they could find a better host but the fact is America is country where they can provide best sports facilities and hotels to host the world cup.

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(However, that's for 2014, not today)

Which is why FIFA wants to hold the world cup at the US, they want to increase the interest on soccer as they know that if they can do it then the market that will open to them will be huge, now this will be hard as they are competing against the four major sports on the US, but if soccer makes the list as the fifth or they can replace one of them then that would be a big win for FIFA, what surprises me about that chart is that roughly half the people at England have no interest at soccer, as this is the sport they created and it is the most popular sport around the world.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 29, 2023, 03:31:23 PM

I think letting America and two other countries host the world can be very good but the thing about America is they don't have many football fans and compared to many other countries in the world America is a country to place football in first priority maybe that's the reason to say they could find a better host but the fact is America is country where they can provide best sports facilities and hotels to host the world cup.

https://www.statista.com/chart/2360/the-level-of-interest-in-soccer-in-selected-countries/

(However, that's for 2014, not today)

Even if these data are correct today, they make little sense if you look not at percentages but at the population. For example, Mexico has 125 million inhabitants, Argentina has 50, and the United States has more than 300. Obviously, simply due to the number of people, this is the largest market, and if we also take into account solvency, then they will not have a single competitor.

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Quote from: len01 on May 29, 2023, 10:35:42 PM

we can't see the statistics because it's been too long and on the other hand, of course, football fans in America at this time have increased after 9 years and in fact, even though America doesn't have many football fans, America is very generous and enthusiastic, willing to provide any facilities. needed to host the 2026 World Cup.
and I think America will provide the best facilities when the world cup takes place.

Well.. everyone knows that the United States will provide the best facilities for the tourists. That is not one of the concerns, actually. I am more worried about the visa issues. And this edition is being co-hosted by three countries - Canada, United States and Mexico. I am not sure about the visa procedure in Mexico, but for the other two countries it is not that easy. And till now, FIFA hasn't clarified whether there will be a special visa procedure for those who want to attend the world cup in person. This creates a lot of uncertainty for the fans.

The best thing about USA is their customer services. And also it is an english country.
otherwise in many other countries language is a big problem. Especially in Arab and other countiers where people dont like speaking english it is very difficult to make you understand what you are trying to say

I think you have a wrong vision of Arab countries. A lot of them learn English because it is multinational language to trade with other countries, people, nations (and Arabs love to trade), a lot of them learn English to move from their countries in search for a better place to live and earn. They learn English to bring best specialists to their own country and learn from them. If a person is not from deep desert (sorry if that comparison offend someone), then 99% that person would speak English.

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Quote from: Cryptock on May 30, 2023, 02:07:24 AM

The best thing about USA is their customer services. And also it is an english country.
otherwise in many other countries language is a big problem. Especially in Arab and other countiers where people dont like speaking english it is very difficult to make you understand what you are trying to say

Language is not a problem nowadays. In your mobile phone you can install applications that can convert your audio to any language of your choice. Even during the 2002 edition that was hosted by Japan and South Korea, none of the fans complained about language issues. And I guess the same happened during the Qatar edition as well. Even if some of the fans are visiting the stadiums and they are not comfortable in English, there will be volunteers to help them and they will be fluent in different world languages. Anyway, the 2026 edition is going to be interesting.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 30, 2023, 12:03:41 AM

Quote from: len01 on May 29, 2023, 10:35:42 PM

we can't see the statistics because it's been too long and on the other hand, of course, football fans in America at this time have increased after 9 years and in fact, even though America doesn't have many football fans, America is very generous and enthusiastic, willing to provide any facilities. needed to host the 2026 World Cup.
and I think America will provide the best facilities when the world cup takes place.

Well.. everyone knows that the United States will provide the best facilities for the tourists. That is not one of the concerns, actually. I am more worried about the visa issues. And this edition is being co-hosted by three countries - Canada, United States and Mexico. I am not sure about the visa procedure in Mexico, but for the other two countries it is not that easy. And till now, FIFA hasn't clarified whether there will be a special visa procedure for those who want to attend the world cup in person. This creates a lot of uncertainty for the fans.

The best thing about USA is their customer services. And also it is an english country.
otherwise in many other countries language is a big problem. Especially in Arab and other countiers where people dont like speaking english it is very difficult to make you understand what you are trying to say

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Quote from: len01 on May 29, 2023, 10:35:42 PM

we can't see the statistics because it's been too long and on the other hand, of course, football fans in America at this time have increased after 9 years and in fact, even though America doesn't have many football fans, America is very generous and enthusiastic, willing to provide any facilities. needed to host the 2026 World Cup.
and I think America will provide the best facilities when the world cup takes place.

Well.. everyone knows that the United States will provide the best facilities for the tourists. That is not one of the concerns, actually. I am more worried about the visa issues. And this edition is being co-hosted by three countries - Canada, United States and Mexico. I am not sure about the visa procedure in Mexico, but for the other two countries it is not that easy. And till now, FIFA hasn't clarified whether there will be a special visa procedure for those who want to attend the world cup in person. This creates a lot of uncertainty for the fans.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 29, 2023, 03:31:23 PM

I think letting America and two other countries host the world can be very good but the thing about America is they don't have many football fans and compared to many other countries in the world America is a country to place football in first priority maybe that's the reason to say they could find a better host but the fact is America is country where they can provide best sports facilities and hotels to host the world cup.

https://www.statista.com/chart/2360/the-level-of-interest-in-soccer-in-selected-countries/

(However, that's for 2014, not today)

we can't see the statistics because it's been too long and on the other hand, of course, football fans in America at this time have increased after 9 years and in fact, even though America doesn't have many football fans, America is very generous and enthusiastic, willing to provide any facilities. needed to host the 2026 World Cup.
and I think America will provide the best facilities when the world cup takes place.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 29, 2023, 05:00:56 PM

It is not bad that the players who are veterans have action, I also think that 38-39 years is not that bad, nor old, taking only young players is not good either, just look at the example that Luis's Spain team gave Enrique, a total failure, they had so many good players and they didn't want to take the ones who really play well, so taking veteran players and young players is the right combination, I do believe that veterans are needed so that they can get ahead Otherwise they would have the action that Spain had in Qatar.

It's not just Spain. In the playoff phase Portugal also tried the same approach and failed. What the teams need is an ideal mix of younger players and the experienced ones. France is a perfect example for such a team, and Argentina also comes close. And I don't agree with the argument that 38-29 year old players should not play for the national teams. Nowadays the players maintain adequate fitness levels, so that they remain competitive even at that age.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 29, 2023, 04:04:01 AM

Just check the oldest players we had in the 2022 world cup in the picture below from transfermarkt:

Why a player with 38 or 39y old should play in this tournament when they could use younger players and even make them ready for the next world cup to have better performance?

https://www.transfermarkt.com/more-milestones-beckon-moukoko-youngest-player-at-the-world-cup-ronaldo-oldest-striker/view/news/413954

For two reasons mainly; one is the fact that the old player has already played with most of the players you have, so they have a chemistry instead of getting a new younger player who would get used to playing with those people, on the other hand there is the fact that old players are not as old as they used to be, because players would retire at 32-35 range back in the day but because we evolved a lot higher these days, people can play as old as 40 years old, and not really retire before that, not unless they want to of course.

So when you combine these two together, you end up with a situation where players can be brought even when they are older, like how I assume we will see Messi at next world cup as well, he will be better than any other alternative.

It is not bad that the players who are veterans have action, I also think that 38-39 years is not that bad, nor old, taking only young players is not good either, just look at the example that Luis's Spain team gave Enrique, a total failure, they had so many good players and they didn't want to take the ones who really play well, so taking veteran players and young players is the right combination, I do believe that veterans are needed so that they can get ahead Otherwise they would have the action that Spain had in Qatar.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 29, 2023, 04:04:01 AM

Just check the oldest players we had in the 2022 world cup in the picture below from transfermarkt:

Why a player with 38 or 39y old should play in this tournament when they could use younger players and even make them ready for the next world cup to have better performance?

https://www.transfermarkt.com/more-milestones-beckon-moukoko-youngest-player-at-the-world-cup-ronaldo-oldest-striker/view/news/413954

For two reasons mainly; one is the fact that the old player has already played with most of the players you have, so they have a chemistry instead of getting a new younger player who would get used to playing with those people, on the other hand there is the fact that old players are not as old as they used to be, because players would retire at 32-35 range back in the day but because we evolved a lot higher these days, people can play as old as 40 years old, and not really retire before that, not unless they want to of course.

So when you combine these two together, you end up with a situation where players can be brought even when they are older, like how I assume we will see Messi at next world cup as well, he will be better than any other alternative.

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I think letting America and two other countries host the world can be very good but the thing about America is they don't have many football fans and compared to many other countries in the world America is a country to place football in first priority maybe that's the reason to say they could find a better host but the fact is America is country where they can provide best sports facilities and hotels to host the world cup.

https://www.statista.com/chart/2360/the-level-of-interest-in-soccer-in-selected-countries/

(However, that's for 2014, not today)

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Quote from: KTChampions on May 29, 2023, 07:54:56 AM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 29, 2023, 04:04:01 AM

Just check the oldest players we had in the 2022 world cup in the picture below from transfermarkt:

Why a player with 38 or 39y old should play in this tournament when they could use younger players and even make them ready for the next world cup to have better performance?

https://www.transfermarkt.com/more-milestones-beckon-moukoko-youngest-player-at-the-world-cup-ronaldo-oldest-striker/view/news/413954

Maybe it's a marketing issue. Messi is a big brand, even if he has faded as a player, and in 2 years he will be completely bad. We all remember how FIFA paid Maradona simply for being in the VIP box at the World Cup - in the case of Messi, perhaps we have the same thing. In the end in two years everyone will be focused on the fight of the two new titans (Mbappe and Haaland), but Haaland will not be present at the World Cup so someone old will have to be used Grin

Lionel Messi is not included in this XI, first of all it honors Lionel Messi. Because Lionel Messi's performance so far has not been consistent with this XI. If Lionel Messi is currently signed by another club, we can expect him to perform just like last season.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 29, 2023, 04:04:01 AM

Just check the oldest players we had in the 2022 world cup in the picture below from transfermarkt:

Why a player with 38 or 39y old should play in this tournament when they could use younger players and even make them ready for the next world cup to have better performance?

https://www.transfermarkt.com/more-milestones-beckon-moukoko-youngest-player-at-the-world-cup-ronaldo-oldest-striker/view/news/413954

Maybe it's a marketing issue. Messi is a big brand, even if he has faded as a player, and in 2 years he will be completely bad. We all remember how FIFA paid Maradona simply for being in the VIP box at the World Cup - in the case of Messi, perhaps we have the same thing. In the end in two years everyone will be focused on the fight of the two new titans (Mbappe and Haaland), but Haaland will not be present at the World Cup so someone old will have to be used Grin

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 28, 2023, 06:09:53 PM

When people are talking about Messi playing in the 2026 world cup or not I look at this picture when we have an old legend like Messi who is getting retired soon and Enzo Fernandez as 22y old player who can shine in many other world cups in the future for his team.
I guess there is also the same situation in other teams and after the old players, new legends should appear.
~snip~

I really hope Messi doesn't play in the 2026 world cup as it would remove the retirement highlight of winning the 2022 world cup.

He will be way too old, and for what really?, he already completed the world cup, the only thing he was missing.

Retiring now would be the right thing to do, if he plays the next one, it will not be as epic of a retirement.

Well, isn't it a little premature to write off Messi's potential 2026 appearance? Yes, Messi triumphed in 2022 and it would be a storybook ending to a remarkable career. But, let's not rush him into the retirement home just yet!

It's true that age will be a factor in 2026. Yet, there are numerous examples of players excelling well into their late thirties. Remember Buffon? He played at a high level past the age of 40. It's about fitness, not the number on the birth certificate.

And what if Messi's passion for the game still burns bright? Shouldn't that be the main determinant of whether he retires or not? I dare say, the sight of an older Messi, using his guile to overcome youthful energy, could be as epic as any trophy-lifting moment.

I think if Lionel Messi plays in the next World Cup, he will be able to play the role of a great playmaker even if he is in the team. It is not sure yet whether Lionel Messi will retire from the national team. But I think the whole decision now belongs to Lionel Messi personally.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 26, 2023, 07:51:40 AM

India is a crowded country, if you visited this country for once you will understand what I say, even if you don't consider the world cup tourists, this country doesn't have enough facilities even for the Indian people, I visited this country for once and I tried to take a taxi or a bus and in a normal situation when people are going to going you can never have an easy day in India.

I am not sure why the discussion has gone to India
the main country we are discussing are USA, Canada and Marxico
can anyone shed light on does maxico has football team because Canada and USA is not a strong team

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Just check the oldest players we had in the 2022 world cup in the picture below from transfermarkt:

Why a player with 38 or 39y old should play in this tournament when they could use younger players and even make them ready for the next world cup to have better performance?

https://www.transfermarkt.com/more-milestones-beckon-moukoko-youngest-player-at-the-world-cup-ronaldo-oldest-striker/view/news/413954

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Quote from: Theones on May 29, 2023, 02:06:01 AM

Quote from: nullama on May 28, 2023, 06:25:44 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 28, 2023, 06:09:53 PM

When people are talking about Messi playing in the 2026 world cup or not I look at this picture when we have an old legend like Messi who is getting retired soon and Enzo Fernandez as 22y old player who can shine in many other world cups in the future for his team.
I guess there is also the same situation in other teams and after the old players, new legends should appear.
~snip~

I really hope Messi doesn't play in the 2026 world cup as it would remove the retirement highlight of winning the 2022 world cup.

He will be way too old, and for what really?, he already completed the world cup, the only thing he was missing.

Retiring now would be the right thing to do, if he plays the next one, it will not be as epic of a retirement.

that is to true most of the sportsman the announce their retirment after their victory. They dont play the next match or the event because they like to remembered as victorious

I personally think that Lionel Messi can announce his retirement from the national team anytime. Because Lionel Messi will be almost 40 years old by the time the 2026 World Cup is played. No one knows how much Lionel Messi can do for the team at that time. Now it's all up to Lionel Messi to decide.

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Quote from: nullama on May 28, 2023, 06:25:44 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 28, 2023, 06:09:53 PM

When people are talking about Messi playing in the 2026 world cup or not I look at this picture when we have an old legend like Messi who is getting retired soon and Enzo Fernandez as 22y old player who can shine in many other world cups in the future for his team.
I guess there is also the same situation in other teams and after the old players, new legends should appear.
~snip~

I really hope Messi doesn't play in the 2026 world cup as it would remove the retirement highlight of winning the 2022 world cup.

He will be way too old, and for what really?, he already completed the world cup, the only thing he was missing.

Retiring now would be the right thing to do, if he plays the next one, it will not be as epic of a retirement.

that is to true most of the sportsman the announce their retirment after their victory. They dont play the next match or the event because they like to remembered as victorious

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on May 28, 2023, 06:09:53 PM

When people are talking about Messi playing in the 2026 world cup or not I look at this picture when we have an old legend like Messi who is getting retired soon and Enzo Fernandez as 22y old player who can shine in many other world cups in the future for his team.
I guess there is also the same situation in other teams and after the old players, new legends should appear.
~snip~

I really hope Messi doesn't play in the 2026 world cup as it would remove the retirement highlight of winning the 2022 world cup.

He will be way too old, and for what really?, he already completed the world cup, the only thing he was missing.

Retiring now would be the right thing to do, if he plays the next one, it will not be as epic of a retirement.

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When people are talking about Messi playing in the 2026 world cup or not I look at this picture when we have an old legend like Messi who is getting retired soon and Enzo Fernandez as 22y old player who can shine in many other world cups in the future for his team.
I guess there is also the same situation in other teams and after the old players, new legends should appear.

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